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Thread created on 11:21:04 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)

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Graved.

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Posted on 11:57:56 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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Looks like I need to hit casino! R+
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Posted on 12:02:30 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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This is just the Martingale betting system, eventually you lose and it will cost you more than the profits you made.
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Posted on 12:24:25 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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Hank [1732212]
This is just the Martingale betting system, eventually you lose and it will cost you more than the profits you made.

Correct, the first strategy is the Martingale betting system and I made it clear that it has its flaws. That's why the second system is there. If you're saying that this way isn't water proof, you're right. Then again, no system is. What I try to do is to minimize risk while still making a nice profit. This system helps you to do that.
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Posted on 13:44:01 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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Hank [1732212]
This is just the Martingale betting system, eventually you lose and it will cost you more than the profits you made.
Strandevader [1618795]
Correct, the first strategy is the Martingale betting system and I made it clear that it has its flaws. That's why the second system is there. If you're saying that this way isn't water proof, you're right. Then again, no system is. What I try to do is to minimize risk while still making a nice profit. This system helps you to do that.

Your second system isn't a system at all. Its just a very rough hand guide which doesn't take into effect the current card count in each deck.

Whats your playing statistics on black jack anyway?
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Posted on 15:43:27 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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Your second system isn't a system at all. Its just a very rough hand guide which doesn't take into effect the current card count in each deck. Whats your playing statistics on black jack anyway?

True, it doesn't. It would take a quite sophisticated spreadsheet to be able to calculate the changes whenever a card shows. I do not have the skill to build such a spreadsheet. I call it a system, call it whatever you want.

About stats: taking in account that I've been using the betting system stand alone. My money win/loss is 0.83.

But you must see the value of combining these 'systems'. The first one to be able to get steady results and the second to improve your changes of winning. So hopelfully, you won't get to the point when you can't double your bet anymore. Still, there are no guarentees. I'm not claiming there is.
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Posted on 15:51:39 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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Hank [1732212]
Your second system isn't a system at all. Its just a very rough hand guide which doesn't take into effect the current card count in each deck. Whats your playing statistics on black jack anyway?
Strandevader [1618795]
True, it doesn't. It would take a quite sophisticated spreadsheet to be able to calculate the changes whenever a card shows. I do not have the skill to build such a spreadsheet. I call it a system, call it whatever you want. About stats: taking in account that I've been using the betting system stand alone. My money win/loss is 0.83. But you must see the value of combining these 'systems'. The first one to be able to get steady results and the second to improve your changes of winning. So hopelfully, you won't get to the point when you can't double your bet anymore. Still, there are no guarentees. I'm not claiming there is.

Mines better lmao. You should be atleast in the green before making such guides?

If you can see this, you are viewing the forums badly.
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Posted on 17:26:05 - 05/06/16 (10 years ago)
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Max bet is 100mil, Torn BJ is always way more f**ked than real tables. This is a bad plan.

10, 20, 40, 80, 160, 320, 640, 1280, 2560, 5120, 10240, 20480, 40960, 81920, 163840, 327680, 655360, 1310720, 2621440, 5242880, 10485760, 20971520,41943040, 83886080, 100mil max, you are f**ked.

Granted you would have to lose 24 times in a row to really not be able to recover, but it is not worth risking millions to win TEN dollars. Better off just playing 75 smaller hands, and hoping for the best. Double down on your opportunities, split when appropriate, let the dealer bust, etc.
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Posted on 17:17:37 - 10/06/16 (10 years ago)
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very cool. thanks for sharing
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Posted on 21:38:32 - 11/06/16 (10 years ago)
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This is a decent guide for real life blackjack... assuming there are no five-card-charlies and dealer must hit soft 17's...

As far as Torn blackjack goes, this guide is under the assumption that the system uses true 52 card decks, which is statistically impossible given the runs that the dealer gets.
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Posted on 18:44:22 - 12/06/16 (10 years ago)
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this system has a flaw:

for it to be worth it, you need to be betting 100k per hand, and at that point it can keep doubling and doubling until you get wiped out
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Posted on 13:38:08 - 11/10/19 (7 years ago)
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This is a decent guide for real life blackjack... assuming there are no five-card-charlies and dealer must hit soft 17's... As far as Torn blackjack goes, this guide is under the assumption that the system uses true 52 card decks, which is statistically impossible given the runs that the dealer gets.

Yes, I'm quite sufficient with numbers, and I have noticed that it is not only improbable but truly statistically impossible for Torn Blackjack dealer to get and have the hands they do. This BlackJack game is based on an algorithm, not a true 52 card deck system.
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Posted on 03:08:26 - 15/10/19 (7 years ago)
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Also - I'm fairly certain Torn Blackjack is based on a single deck. Given that the deck is shuffled after every bet and not after several. The reason for this would be because Blackjack is a single player casino game, where in a Casino you're typically playing with 6 decks and multiple other parties.
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Posted on 03:09:53 - 16/10/19 (7 years ago)
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Blackjack are quite rigged in my opinion.
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Posted on 10:28:25 - 02/11/19 (7 years ago)
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cant see photo? any suggestions

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Posted on 11:23:27 - 27/02/20 (6 years ago)
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Whoever you are, dude...... Awesome Guide... I earned 2million from this guide
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Posted on 01:57:58 - 28/02/20 (6 years ago)
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Have something to see see
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Posted on 00:51:12 - 01/03/21 (5 years ago)
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I lose all my money
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Posted on 00:52:20 - 01/03/21 (5 years ago)
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118
Maximum gain
$1,600,000
Maximum loss
$800,000
Total money gain
$6,259,150
Total money loss
$7,211,370
Money Gain/Loss ratio
0.8680
Best win streak
4
Wins
48
Losses
70
Win / Loss ratio
0.6857
Pushes
6
Naturals
6
Six Card Charlie
0
Busts
28
Hits
112
Stands
88
Splits
6
Double Downs
34
Double Down wins
18
Double Down losses
16
Insurances
2
Insurance wins
0
Insurance losses
2
Surrenders
0
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Posted on 20:34:47 - 01/03/21 (5 years ago)
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Haven't read all the replies, but the double down method mentioned first also applies to roulette using black/red. Again the key risk there is a relatively low table maximum bet limit.

Although unlikely to go 10-20 turns without a win is very rare, it isn't impossible.

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