Flower Running Guide
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Thread created on 04:25:08 - 01/01/15 (11 years ago)|Last replied 19:05:02 - 17/02/21 (5 years ago)

2026 UPDATE:
I wrote this YEARS before there was an API. Here is a great tool for checking stock***********************
Flower running was my first method of making reliable cash in Torn and I still do it today to avoid buying points off the point market. Below are a list of tips on how to make it more effective and recommendations on how to balance nerve and energy loss.
Dumb questions first: What is the purpose of flower running and why is it a good way to make money?
If you have completed the History educations it will unlock a location in the city called the Museum- In the museum you can exchange one of every flower for 10 points OR one of every plushie for 10 points
- Points get used daily by players so they are always in high demand
- So flowers are always a good buy low sell high item that doesn't require much watching of the item market
How do you make money flower running?- Anyone who can fly should buy flowers or items every time they visit a foreign country
- Casual fliers just pick up what you can and sell them for small profits
- If you want to be a professional flower runner for big profits you will need: A PI with an airstrip, a large suitcase, and willing to make at least 2-3 trips a day (Otherwise just flower run casually)
- Get a Bazaar! (You really don't want to pay item listing fees, list them one at a time in the item market, or search for a trading partner every time you want to sell)
- Finish the History Courses: If you have a museum converting to points and selling points makes more profit (If you are willing to fly to all locations to get full sets)
What locations make the most profit?- To answer this question we have to do some MATHS (I know it's scary, but we can get through it)
- The answer also fluctuates with the current market prices of flowers so you will need to rework this as prices change
To calculate Travel Time vs Profit I created a Google Spreadsheet and updated it with today's market prices (It's editable by anyone so feel free to play with the numbers - Also have a section for plushies)
KPCSlors Travel Calculator
Formulas for you Math Geeks: (NOTE - I calculated profits per flower / per hour using PI travel times. This way it doesn't matter how many items you can carry and works for everyone)- Flower Cost - Market Price = Gross Profit
- Travel Time x 2 (converted to decimal) = Round Trip Hours
- Gross Profit / Round Trip Hours = Dollars per hour made per location
Based off of tonight's market prices (September 16, 2014) here are the best and worst locations:Edelweiss = $10,267 Per Flower per hourAfrican Violet = $13,276 Per Flower per hourBanana Orchid = $14,458 Per Flower per hour...Cherry Blossom = $18,121 Per Flower per hourPeony = $18,295 Per Flower per hour
Explained:
Edelweiss is in Switzerland and everyone who goes to rehab snatches up flowers if available. These will always be the worst profits makers.
African Violets may seem like they should be good profits, but the multi's love to hunt in South Africa so there is usually a good supply on the item market.
Banana Orchids, Crocus, and Dhalia's are usually low tier profit makers because the trips are short and preferred for casual flower runners
Cherry Blossom, Peony, and Tribus are usually the top tier profit makers because the trips are longer and require energy sacrifice.
Energy and Nerve:- Nerve: Unless you stick to short trips only you will have to sacrifice a lot of nerve to flower run (Sorry just have to accept it)
- Energy: Assuming you start at 0 energy and have a DP it takes 5 hours to fill up to 150 energy
- All locations up to Argentina can be made there and back in less than 5 hoursEnergy Loss Locations:
- Japan: 2hr 38min = 16 min Energy loss (5-10 energy)China: 2hr 49min = 38 min Energy loss (20 energy)UAE: 3hr 10min = 80min Energy Loss (40 energy)South Africa: 3hr 28min = 116min Energy Loss (60 energy)
Energy Loss Tips:- For Japan and China you can decide if returning with a full 150e or burning 25e on an attack is more worth while (I suggest do 1 attack)
- UAE you should definitely do at least one 25e attack (Mug or Leave for Exp) otherwise it's just a waste of energy
- SA you should hunt - Profits are low, but those hunting honors take years so may as well make a dent every trip
General Tips:- SET A TIMER: The whole point of those math calculations is profit per flower per hour assuming
- CHECK STOCK BEFORE YOU FLY: Always, Always, Always check [staff edit: this link seems to go to a spam site] before you fly. Nothing worse than flowers being out of stock (Update it too while your at it - just a quick copy/paste)
- DON'T TRAVEL WITH TOO MUCH CASH: Just like I recommended that you mug or leave someone to burn off wasted energy the same will be done to you.
- DON'T CAMP: Camping is staying in foreign countries for long stretches. Not only will this guarantee you to be mugged, it will stall faction Organized Crimes which annoys your faction leaders, and you will lose a lot of energy.
- REPEAT: It's never worth it to camp even in South Africa. If you like to hunt fly back and forth to flower run and hunt so you can still train and do crimes in Torn City in between.
Last edited by KPCSlor on 19:18:01 - 28/05/26 (5 months ago)
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Posted on 08:37:35 - 01/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkGood Work. Lot of Guides these days. R+

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Posted on 23:16:48 - 01/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkI had them in my faction forum so figured I may as well put them here now that we have a guides section.

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Posted on 09:15:05 - 02/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkB+R nice guide mate
Just one question when you have in that calc the $ per hour is that based on per flower? So obv the more you can carry you would x that? so say Banana orchid is $14,458 at the moment and you can carry 25 of them you would x that?Last edited by Kinzove on 09:19:53 - 02/01/15 (11 years ago)
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Posted on 19:29:36 - 02/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkWhat I did was calculate Dollars per Hour for one flower using PI flight times as reference. My market totals are a bit outdated, but you can use the spreadsheet to import new total and see what's currently best.
I didn't bother putting in quantity or estimated profits because everyone sells them differently and has different cumber. Wanted to keep is a simple better or worse number.
Make sense?
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Posted on 12:12:11 - 03/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkCheers thats what I thought but wanted to be sure ;)

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Posted on 12:21:00 - 03/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkYou could put info on the faction special Cumber and how WLT doesn't stack with the airstrip, just to make the guide more complete.
- And perhaps bullets to make thing more appealing...
- Every tutorial should have bulletin points
- buulleeetss...
Source:
http://www.torn.com/wiki/Stock_Market
http://www.torn.com/wiki/Factions#SpecialsLast edited by Criminal on 13:02:01 - 03/01/15 (11 years ago) -
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Posted on 08:27:56 - 05/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkChina is pretty much always the best location I think, don't even need to update my spreadsheet to know that
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Posted on 16:16:37 - 05/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkI still left the calculations as per flower / per hour based on PI travel times, but put a note in
Also added bold titles and real bullets to make it look cleaner
Thanks for the feedback
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Posted on 18:25:53 - 27/01/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkbump

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Posted on 05:29:05 - 04/02/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkeasy merits for your first 50 flights to each country .. I've just started running flowers but plan to trade first 50 trips into points
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Posted on 05:56:42 - 04/02/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkAnyone who can fly should buy flowers or items every time they visit a foreign country
Most people should know you need to be level 15+ to travel but I'd add that in anyway.
Mention the different ways to fly as well and perhaps the total trip time to each destination with the various methods to make this more complete
For example (one way)Destination Standard PI Airstrip WLT BCT Mexico 0h18 0h13 Cayman Islands 0h25 0h18 Canada 0h29 0h20 Hawaii 1h34 1h07 UK 1h51 1h20 Argentina 1h57 1h23 Switzerland 2h03 1h28 Japan 2h38 1h53 China 2h49 2h01 UAE 3h10 2h15 Suuth Africa 3h28 2h29
Energy Loss Tips:
You can add in revives as well. Switch on the travel chat - there are often people in other destinations that you are headed to looking for revives or just revive anyone that's in hospital. Good way to work on reviving merits as well.
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Posted on 11:07:57 - 04/02/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkAnother tip you could add is the CityWatch app, as an alternative to a timer. It has a "Destination Reached" alert and there's a version for Android on the forums (but you need to buy CityWatch in the Points Market first). R+
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Posted on 03:21:49 - 05/02/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkWah... very helpful.
Thanks for the help.Lost In Translation. Please Don't Take Me Back.
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Posted on 22:40:11 - 15/02/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkThank you very much for such detailed help!
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Posted on 21:19:55 - 02/03/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkVery nice guide, thanks!<-- Please report this URL to -Clansdancer if you see it -->
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Posted on 07:38:09 - 15/03/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkAwesome guide buddy, cheers!!
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Posted on 15:38:32 - 15/03/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkI like this guide. Rated +
I would like to add that trips to the Cayman Islands also add the benefit of being able to directly bank your excess money. It won't make you as much as a trip to UAE or SA but it's very convenient. -
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Posted on 23:47:25 - 09/04/15 (11 years ago)Post link copied to clipboard Copy post linkbump

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