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    Posted to on 07:01:09 - 04/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Might sell my rig and buy a sweet shopsweet shop
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    Posted to on 08:40:26 - 04/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Lol, might not be a bad idea, if the cans arent regulated before 2.0 a 10* sweet shop will be getting double the cans they currently get.
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    Posted to on 21:10:39 - 04/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Im with you L4 im tanking haha. There should be a better way to see what impacts our companies. I literally have to hunt daily for drug use and if i cant find any major effects then tweaking is really hard. I have been tweaking lately and well im tanking bad lol. Bogie your right about the stars which also is disheartening. If im fully upgraded (which I am) that means this is it. Struggling to make the profits i make now is the end game. This is sad compared to what we used to have. I can make more daily (safely) on the blackjack tables.

    In my opinion they nerfed oil rigs way to hard!
    Last edited by Bling_Bling on 21:12:01 - 04/07/14
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    Posted to on 20:01:37 - 08/07/14 (5 month ago)
    I am losing my ass and one of the top oil rigs has 18 employees. Can i get a F@#% hint book??? This is kicking my ass! What the hell changed in Respo with oil rigs. Im doing everything i can but my barrel production dropped 25%.
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    Posted to on 21:20:27 - 08/07/14 (5 month ago)
    I assume the 18 man rig you're referring to is mine seeing as I'm the top 18 man rig in the game.

    There's no real trick to it, my advertising is nothing, my employees are all active, drug free and above the stat cap. Nothing has changed in respo, I was one of the top before then too.

    Just gotta find the balance around it.

    Although I really don't think that the employee positions are scaled properly, there's too much decay on having too many of the same employee, this is why TV networks do so well. Employees are less effective the more of the same type there are in the company, TV network has much more to choose from than rig, so having too many employees in a rig just causes this decay to stack up to a point where the extra employees do nothing more. Needs addressing really.

    When hiring employees one rule I have ALWAYS followed is to NEVER recruit people who already work in other rigs. This has allowed me to build up a very loyal and active work force, which definitely helps too.
    Last edited by bogie on 21:28:09 - 08/07/14
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    Posted to on 21:31:27 - 08/07/14 (5 month ago)
    I was referring to you lol. I have more drillers and basically the same balance you do with more employees. Mine also meet the stat caps but i produce less oil. I sell everything i make daily. I will slowly try to unassign and have started to lower my advertising since i will be losing money soon. Since the old system i was always on top as well until recently. Now im clearing crap lol. I am working on balance but no matter what i dont agree that you can out produce me with 30% less employees. I have absolutely nothing against you or your success so congrats but that defeats logic when ched stated the most important upgrade was size and the company changes were to mimick real companies. I do not have bare bone low stat employees. They meet the minimums. 3 weeks ago i was producing 100k more barrels a day then i am now and i have the same employees. Im just frustrated all the way around. We used to rake in 70 mil a day profits which i pumped right back into the company with employee upgrades. Now im maxed and can barely make a decent profit.

    i dont have alot of issues with employees either. most of my guys been with me hundreds of days. All in all i will keep trying but frankly just have not been that happy. Your not the only short rig on top either many 21 man and below 25 do better then the fat boys so there has to be validity to your strategies.
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    Posted to on 22:05:15 - 08/07/14 (5 month ago)
    It's either a bug or a weirdly intended feature, but I've found that the less effective my sales execs are (and all employees, not just producers) the less oil I produce :s I don't know why... but a single inactive sales exec, despite not having a massive effect on proft, will massively tank oil production...
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    Posted to on 00:34:14 - 13/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Advertising useless for me 2 days now profits down I make more without it
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    Posted to on 08:37:43 - 13/07/14 (5 month ago)
     

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    Advertising useless for me 2 days now profits down I make more without it

    That's the fault of the users who are willing to pay more than they get back from advertising, advertising bonuses are all relative to the amount you spend compared to other companies of that type.

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    Posted to on 23:03:34 - 22/07/14 (4 month ago)
    You are all talking about paying for advertising.  Do  the stock benefits not apply under RESPO?  Advertising should be free according to the stock write-ups.
    quote "TORN?...I created it for a hobby, never for money" endquoteChedburn June 2009 phpgamespace.com Really?
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    Posted to on 07:57:53 - 24/07/14 (4 month ago)

    12Digitdan [5510]

    You are all talking about paying for advertising.  Do  the stock benefits not apply under RESPO?  Advertising should be free according to the stock write-ups.

    What write ups? Advertising USED to be free under the old system, in this system the stock benefit increases the effectiveness of your advertising.

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    Posted to on 13:45:44 - 25/07/14 (4 month ago)
    I re-brought the advertising assist stock block and after a week or so I am taking about 200k a day more than I was before I brought it.

    Everything else is the same.
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    Posted to on 10:53:00 - 03/08/14 (4 month ago)
    im wondering now, is it even worth buying an oil rig? for me the end objective was the rig but now it seems unpopular.  What else is there to do?  
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    Posted to on 11:07:48 - 09/08/14 (4 month ago)

    Hermit [997432]

    im wondering now, is it even worth buying an oil rig? for me the end objective was the rig but now it seems unpopular.  What else is there to do?  

     Use the money to invest in stocks. Takes more risk than companies but pays out more on average.

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    Posted to on 08:29:32 - 27/08/14 (3 month ago)

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    My profits have been slowly declining. Whatever I do with advertising and pricing I can't make any more profit (not net sales).

    my employees are all loyal and rarely disappear for days at a time, but I have no idea on their drug habits. My sales staff have an equal share of the sales value each so I can't imagine any individual is in a back alley full of needles.

    my issue is though that oil production declined. I was making 500-600k barrels per day at one point. Now I struggle to get 400k. What happened you ask? I upgraded to max. Lost one employee with high manual (120k), hired 3 with 80k manual each.
    I was able to promote within to replace the driller with similar stats, so the 40k loss was mainly in the roughneck area. so how does that equate to a loss of 100k barrels a day??

     I believe it is because of this:
    Roughneck: This position will allow the specialists to do their jobs better

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    Posted to on 17:39:37 - 27/08/14 (3 month ago)

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    im wondering now, is it even worth buying an oil rig? for me the end objective was the rig but now it seems unpopular.  What else is there to do?  

     Same for me.  Been saving and working for a year to acquire the cash ...and now....Thinking its not a smart idea.  Was great when I started.  Crazy game

    quote "TORN?...I created it for a hobby, never for money" endquoteChedburn June 2009 phpgamespace.com Really?
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    Posted to on 04:40:42 - 28/08/14 (3 month ago)

    12Digitdan [5510]

     

    Hermit [997432]

    im wondering now, is it even worth buying an oil rig? for me the end objective was the rig but now it seems unpopular.  What else is there to do?  

     Same for me.  Been saving and working for a year to acquire the cash ...and now....Thinking its not a smart idea.  Was great when I started.  Crazy game

     Help players such as me max out their bank or buy a PI

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    Posted to on 06:36:04 - 27/09/14 (2 month ago)
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    Posted to on 10:32:33 - 08/10/14 (2 month ago)
    Increasing your capacity up to 18 or 21 is worth it.  Increasing it beyond that doesn't seem to be worth it (at least to me)
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    Posted to on 17:24:44 - 08/10/14 (2 month ago)
     

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    Increasing your capacity up to 18 or 21 is worth it.  Increasing it beyond that doesn't seem to be worth it (at least to me)

    I think the scaling with how much more income companies can make at higher upgrades isn't worth the cost to upgrade currently it's ideal to run the smaller companies and have friends hold them for you.  

    Currently certain positions having too many of them can have a negative impact (speaking from my experience from TV's) having too many of the same employee type has negative impacts and either makes you less money or only ~500k extra so he needs to fix that as well.  IE. having 2 sales executives they both make 2.5m, having 3 they all make ~1.9 each only resulting in a small increase to profits and most of the extra cash is spent just on paying the employee.

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