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    Thread created on 21:05:02 - 23/06/14
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    I keep seeing a trend and from all my tinkering all I can come up with is stats. I remember cheds email about companies and how company size was going to be the most important upgrade. Yet to this day I see oil rigs with 20 employees rocking the house on profits. Ive never cleared over 56 mil in profits in one day and I see 20 man rigs that have hit almost 65mil. From all my tinkering I keep coming to the conclusion that maybe their companies have powerhouse stats players. Im rocking some good folks but still no cookie hitting 60 mil. Its just weird to me that ten additional employees cant keep up with some good stat players. What do you all think?

    *98% of my folks hit the stat minimums
    Last edited by Bling_Bling on 21:06:32 - 23/06/14
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    Posted to on 11:56:14 - 25/06/14 (3 month ago)
    i think u missed thinking about pricing and advertisement , they may get over 60 mil. but their advert 's very high that make them earn very little or perhaps lose , they just like being on top
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    Posted to on 16:39:27 - 25/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Staff quality, staff positioning, adverts, pricing and manufacturing/distribution are all factors
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    Posted to on 18:09:54 - 25/06/14 (3 month ago)
    I think i do well in those areas. I have a loyal base of employees, I do not overpay as all have taken pay cuts since the updates. I maintain 99% 5 star employees and have always been in the top tier 90% or above. I make a fair profit daily for myself and have a really good business model. The only thing I can think of is that other companies overpay and have massive stat players. It just seems to go against the update information that was put out. I mean if im wrong im wrong and there is no issue. This is not a cry session. I just don't understand how companies can soar with 25% higher profits then everyone else, Everyone!!, with 1/3 of the employees. Ive zoned in positioning well and even the slightest change causes profits to rapidly decline. I also understand reserve selling and maintained a massive reserve until recently when i finally sold it all off. Ive tried price spiking taking advantage of customer loyalty so what do you all think are good tactics? that is if your willing to divulge lol.
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    Posted to on 20:30:11 - 25/06/14 (3 month ago)
    They may be spending 40-50m a day in adverts, at the end of the day if your happy with your net profit I wouldn't worry too much about other people.
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    Posted to on 09:05:11 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    I spend nothing on advertisements, have 18 employees and regularly pull 50m+ a day (Past couple days have been a bit shit due to an inactive sales rep who I have now replaced)

    Have you done all the educations? Maybe those others are spending more on advertisement too.

    The most common thing here though is, if you pay attention to those 20 man rigs pulling 60m+ a day is that it isn't permanent. They are building up an excess of oil and then set extra salesman to sell it off and go back to normal.

    I do the same, currently I produce more oil than I can sell (Even when doing 50m+ days), eventually it builds to a point where I need to just set extra sales and get rid of it.

    Your employees may reach the stat minimums but are they also drug free? Mine are drug free & have good stats. Having drugged up employees I've noticed is basically the same as having someone on half those stats (or less) working for you...
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    Posted to on 09:52:31 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    bogie [148747]

    I spend nothing on advertisements, have 18 employees and regularly pull 50m+ a day (Past couple days have been a bit shit due to an inactive sales rep who I have now replaced)

    Have you done all the educations? Maybe those others are spending more on advertisement too.

    The most common thing here though is, if you pay attention to those 20 man rigs pulling 60m+ a day is that it isn't permanent. They are building up an excess of oil and then set extra salesman to sell it off and go back to normal.

    I do the same, currently I produce more oil than I can sell (Even when doing 50m+ days), eventually it builds to a point where I need to just set extra sales and get rid of it.

    Your employees may reach the stat minimums but are they also drug free? Mine are drug free & have good stats. Having drugged up employees I've noticed is basically the same as having someone on half those stats (or less) working for you...

    Drugs are a lot more misleading now than in the old system, I find it takes a lot longer for someone to lose efficiancy stars than it used to but the damage is still being done.

    This means there is a lot more trust required in your employees to rehab reguarly or stay clean as it is a lot harder to notice in time who is the one effecting your takings.

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    Posted to on 17:24:28 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Bogie and Tarelli,

    great responses. This is definitely a concern for me but i do have to say there is alot more brain work in the companies these days. I hope our profits increase on the ten star system. I think companies can shift too and bring you curve balls. Before i was making more then i could sell but now slowly im not making enough. I have more work to do but i have to admit i love owning a rig. Its been one of the highlights of my game here.
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    Posted to on 17:55:25 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Tarelli [1060371]

     

    bogie [148747]

    I spend nothing on advertisements, have 18 employees and regularly pull 50m+ a day (Past couple days have been a bit shit due to an inactive sales rep who I have now replaced)

    Have you done all the educations? Maybe those others are spending more on advertisement too.

    The most common thing here though is, if you pay attention to those 20 man rigs pulling 60m+ a day is that it isn't permanent. They are building up an excess of oil and then set extra salesman to sell it off and go back to normal.

    I do the same, currently I produce more oil than I can sell (Even when doing 50m+ days), eventually it builds to a point where I need to just set extra sales and get rid of it.

    Your employees may reach the stat minimums but are they also drug free? Mine are drug free & have good stats. Having drugged up employees I've noticed is basically the same as having someone on half those stats (or less) working for you...

    Drugs are a lot more misleading now than in the old system, I find it takes a lot longer for someone to lose efficiancy stars than it used to but the damage is still being done.

    This means there is a lot more trust required in your employees to rehab reguarly or stay clean as it is a lot harder to notice in time who is the one effecting your takings.

    Yes but with all due respect you're running a MUCH smaller company. The negative effects from drugs are directly related to the stats of the person taking them, someone who is further above the stat cap will be able to take more drugs before having the same negative effects to someone with less stats. Much easier for players in a low stat cap workplace to be less affected by drugs. In oil rigs it's very seriously detrimental to have drugged employees.

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    Posted to on 20:00:45 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Lend me 10b and then I can see,lol

    A very valid point, my staff are mostly well over the cap required which helps a lot ( I have a few loyal guys who have been with me since I had a restaurant who are under the cap but they're getting there).

    What I will say is rigs have the earning power to pay wages that allow directors to be a lot more demanding of their staff, people will be happier to go drug free for 1m+ a day than for 200k a day.

    Anyway we do digress, check your staffs drugs taken and travel to switzerland stat make notes of them all then keep a eye on it making sure the 2 rise in accordance with one another. This might help you see who isn't rehabbing often enough and from there you can take action.
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    Posted to on 20:12:16 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    that is an old conception of oil rigs. We cant survive (or be profitable) paying millions in salary. Until 10 stars go active and profits rise to where they should be no one running a decent rig is paying the old rates. I used to make 50-75 mil a day profit. that is no longer the case by any means :(.
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    Posted to on 20:35:53 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Sad times, I must admit I'm leaning towards tv company, Lower staff requirements and simular takings for a big sum less. Just a couple of billion to go.

    It's funny that certain people believe that other companies are rolling it in for no work but all companies have their individual problems.
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    Posted to on 23:34:45 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
     

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    that is an old conception of oil rigs. We cant survive (or be profitable) paying millions in salary. Until 10 stars go active and profits rise to where they should be no one running a decent rig is paying the old rates. I used to make 50-75 mil a day profit. that is no longer the case by any means :(.

    Star rating doesn't affect profit though... If you're running a rig and not being able to make profit then you are doing something very very wrong... If your employees are still expecting to be paid wages that scale with the old profit system then you need to sort that shit out.

    Last edited by bogie on 23:36:07 - 26/06/14
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    Posted to on 21:46:56 - 27/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Um you said a naughty word and it didn't blank it
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    Posted to on 03:19:42 - 30/06/14 (3 month ago)

    This means there is a lot more trust required in your employees to rehab reguarly or stay clean as it is a lot harder to notice in time who is the one effecting your takings.

    That's why you have a human resources I can notice if my employees are drugged up or not

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    Posted to on 06:50:43 - 30/06/14 (3 month ago)
    The hr position, is a non profit one in my company, therefore reducing profit
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    Posted to on 00:42:36 - 01/07/14 (3 month ago)
    Most important thing is you need good salesman.. better less but good than more but bad ones imo.

    The rest can be all average as long as it produces enough oil to sell ^^
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    Posted to on 15:03:57 - 01/07/14 (3 month ago)
     

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    Most important thing is you need good salesman.. better less but good than more but bad ones imo.

    The rest can be all average as long as it produces enough oil to sell ^^

    This is most important, a driller who does a few xanax or misses a day or two logging on isn't usually a problem as if you do it right you should be producing excess oil to cover such things... difficult to get that same result with salesmen, they need to always be perfect (Active/drug free/high stats etc... it's quite a tall order). I go through salesman faster than any other employee type for this reason. Plus high intel employees tend to be in greater amount than high manual ones due to old education starter job specials only having intel to boost.

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    Posted to on 23:28:57 - 02/07/14 (3 month ago)
    My profits have been slowly declining. Whatever I do with advertising and pricing I can't make any more profit (not net sales).

    my employees are all loyal and rarely disappear for days at a time, but I have no idea on their drug habits. My sales staff have an equal share of the sales value each so I can't imagine any individual is in a back alley full of needles.

    my issue is though that oil production declined. I was making 500-600k barrels per day at one point. Now I struggle to get 400k. What happened you ask? I upgraded to max. Lost one employee with high manual (120k), hired 3 with 80k manual each.
    I was able to promote within to replace the driller with similar stats, so the 40k loss was mainly in the roughneck area. so how does that equate to a loss of 100k barrels a day??
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    Posted to on 01:48:37 - 04/07/14 (3 month ago)
    i worked out the t.v station and how to make 20 million plus profit daily with no advertising or 6-8 less workers then the 5 star companies

    but yes it does seem that stats play the most important roll to a company the size doesnt mean as much