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    Thread created on 22:20:31 - 16/08/14
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    It all depends on your funds in the end of the day but why I started this thread is, to ask is do you think its worth it?
    The lowest price for one is 160M + each today.
    I know people make these for their income (making them and selling them, which I applaud) but is its really worth it for the buyer in the end of the day?
    For the $$$ that has to be spent on them I really do wish they done a lot more damage.
    I don't like to include names in my thread but Cynic dropped 2 from what I remember back a while ago and what he did achieved is the honour bars ? (Bar the nice image under his name on the forums and a merit or 2)
    If they were made a lot more available, would you think that it would make the game more interesting?
    Yes I know some factions have been in the making for years and most of the top faction leaders and members have pumped more than that into the faction but maybe a few upgrades like Hermetic and others could be zeroed and brought back to starting levels.
    This is something I have seen a few times come under scrutiny.
    There was another guy( I forget his name sorry) ) that dropped like 3 in a row and not 1 faction was obliterated.†
    Just a small 50k respect lost.
    Do you think its time for a review?
    Would more diry bombs be more fun?
    I think so anyway.
    • Do we need changes to the Dirty Bomb?
    • Yes
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    • No
      27.27% (24 votes)
    Total number of votes: 88
    Last edited by Hades on 22:37:12 - 16/08/14

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    Posted to on 22:22:40 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    I'm going to need more info on this, how many cesiums do I need to make one dirty bomb? Is there a time required to make it?
    What are the requirements to even make one?
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    Posted to on 22:26:39 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    Of course it is worth it. You do not have to destroy to spend a message...
    Send chaos and giggle...†
    The day I start taking this seriously is the day I quit...
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    Posted to on 22:29:48 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

    Sweeney_Todd [27468]

    Of course it is worth it. You do not have to destroy to spend a message...

    Send chaos and giggle...†

    †Chaos + Damage?

    Its more like $$$ < damage + Chaos


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    Posted to on 22:31:53 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    i take it most of the ppl that voted for changes are the ppl that cant afford a DB? lol

    i cant afford a db and i dont care, but some items HAVE to remain elite, simply as a target to reach......
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    Posted to on 22:38:50 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    i take it most of the ppl that voted for changes are the ppl that cant afford a DB? lol

    i cant afford a db and i dont care, but some items HAVE to remain elite, simply as a target to reach......

    †I do agree that it should be for the elite but do you not think they should cost just as much $ value to the faction as the person that dropped it spent?†

    Like Upgrades getting revoked?†


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    Posted to on 22:42:38 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    I don't really want to see more dirty bombs because it affects more than just the factions involved, just because some of the larger factions were dropping bombs I was trampled and hospitalized for 8 hours along with hundreds of other people. If we add more that adds more to everyone elses hospital time.

    I also don't think someone should be able to wipe out another faction just by throwing money in the form of a dirty bomb at it. Respect, upgrades, and factions take time and devotion to grow, a dirty bomb only takes 200 hours and 16 bil, you could accomplish that in just over a week. 50k respect isn't anything to joke about, that will take months to regen.
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    Posted to on 22:46:25 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    I don't really want to see more dirty bombs because it affects more than just the factions involved, just because some of the larger factions were dropping bombs I was trampled and hospitalized for 8 hours along with hundreds of other people. If we add more that adds more to everyone elses hospital time.

    True though do you not think that spending billions should cause such damage?†

    I also don't think someone should be able to wipe out another faction just by throwing money in the form of a dirty bomb at it. Respect, upgrades, and factions take time and devotion to grow, a dirty bomb only takes 200 hours and 16 bil, you could accomplish that in just over a week. 50k respect isn't anything to joke about, that will take months to regen.

    †I'm not on about wiping out a faction. Just cause REAL chaos.


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    Posted to on 22:51:22 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    The cost of creating a DB could be as little as the cost of a bit of time and a faction allowing you to build one. It is entirely possible to find all of the cesium required yourself, hence negating the cost (however unlikely). The cost however is simply determined by the community as theoretically, cesium has only the value people are willing to pay.
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    Posted to on 22:53:05 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    The cost of creating a DB could be as little as the cost of a bit of time and a faction allowing you to build one. It is entirely possible to find all of the cesium required yourself, hence negating the cost (however unlikely). The cost however is simply determined by the community as theoretically, cesium has only the value people are willing to pay.

    †Very lunlikely. xD

    What is the chances of finding a cesium never mind finding enough to build a bomb?†

    I have never found even 1.


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    Posted to on 22:55:24 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    I find them to be nothing more than forum fodder, it's like every time one is dropped there is a race to post a thread to speculate on who it was dropped on and who dropped it, they aren't really effective anymore because I can't remember the last time one was dropped because of an actual war. When Cynic dropped his two one was on Cheds test faction (an act to this day I still say I can't see the point in) and the other was on youngblazes faction, now that was slightly funnier because well YB had something like that coming but none the less neither were to do with an actual faction war. I think the 3 in a row after that were dropped by Xeceres? same thing, he didn't drop them because he was in a war with anyone he did it just to prove he could and then ended up in fed for some silly ip stuff between him and his brother from what I remember (although if I am wrong about that don't slaughter me, don't forget this all happened when I was on a 3 year forum ban so I'm sketchy at best about the full facts)
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    Posted to on 22:55:30 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    Ive recieved a cesium from my yearly subscription
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    Posted to on 22:55:54 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    The cost of creating a DB could be as little as the cost of a bit of time and a faction allowing you to build one. It is entirely possible to find all of the cesium required yourself, hence negating the cost (however unlikely). The cost however is simply determined by the community as theoretically, cesium has only the value people are willing to pay.

    †True, and the fact that prices haven't dipped below $150 mil(except for some odd patches where it costs nothing apparently? I'm going to assume none were on the market at that time or it's a glitch) means that people are still buying them.

    @Hades I don't think that being rich should automagickally give you control over the game.
    Rich guy has a bone with another player, throws money at his faction to blow it up, throws money on bounties so he never leaves the hospital, other player eventually quits since his hard work is gone and he can't leave the hospital.

    Although the more I think about having upgrades be wiped the better it sounds.

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    Posted to on 22:59:27 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    The cost of creating a DB could be as little as the cost of a bit of time and a faction allowing you to build one. It is entirely possible to find all of the cesium required yourself, hence negating the cost (however unlikely). The cost however is simply determined by the community as theoretically, cesium has only the value people are willing to pay.

    †True, and the fact that prices haven't dipped below $150 mil(except for some odd patches where it costs nothing apparently? I'm going to assume none were on the market at that time or it's a glitch) means that people are still buying them.

    @Hades I don't think that being rich should automagickally give you control over the game.
    Rich guy has a bone with another player, throws money at his faction to blow it up, throws money on bounties so he never leaves the hospital, other player eventually quits since his hard work is gone and he can't leave the hospital.

    Although the more I think about having upgrades be wiped the better it sounds.

    †Though if you spend billions on dropping 1 bomb you wont be rich for long.


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    Posted to on 23:09:11 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    Cesium prices are largely kept high from resellers determining their value
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    Posted to on 23:11:21 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    The cost of creating a DB could be as little as the cost of a bit of time and a faction allowing you to build one. It is entirely possible to find all of the cesium required yourself, hence negating the cost (however unlikely). The cost however is simply determined by the community as theoretically, cesium has only the value people are willing to pay.

    †True, and the fact that prices haven't dipped below $150 mil(except for some odd patches where it costs nothing apparently? I'm going to assume none were on the market at that time or it's a glitch) means that people are still buying them.

    @Hades I don't think that being rich should automagickally give you control over the game.
    Rich guy has a bone with another player, throws money at his faction to blow it up, throws money on bounties so he never leaves the hospital, other player eventually quits since his hard work is gone and he can't leave the hospital.

    Although the more I think about having upgrades be wiped the better it sounds.

    †Though if you spend billions on dropping 1 bomb you wont be rich for long.

    It's a common delusion that they cost billions which in a way they do but no one forks out those billions all at once, they are already rich so buy the Cesium in bits and pieces as they become available, if they have any sense they sell places in their faction before they start building it so that others will pay for the honor bar (I think Bogie was getting $35 mil†a pop for a place in his faction before he†start building his) so it isn't as expensive as people think, it's only expensive if you don't have the money to spend but there are ways for them to recover some of that expense. I know of at least 50 people on here who could easily pay for it and it would be nothing more than loose change to them
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    Posted to on 23:13:07 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    No one pays for that honour bar now, it's much much more common than when I first started building bombs (3 years ago?). Bear in mind when I offered that service it was still 'extremely rare'. I only got about 2-3b tops back for it anyway. These days it makes more sense to give the award out free as a recruiting tactic in the hope that one or two decent members might stick around.
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    Posted to on 23:16:14 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)

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    No one pays for that honour bar now, it's much much more common than when I first started building bombs (3 years ago?). Bear in mind when I offered that service it was still 'extremely rare'. I only got about 2-3b tops back for it anyway.

    I know it was a long time ago Bogie but bare in mind my forum ban, I'm just telling people what I can remember from that time period when I could only read the forums if I logged out
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    Posted to on 23:22:52 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    I know the DBs should be for the elite. I'm asking is it really worth spending billions for making the login screen look a bit different for a little while. The honor bars and merits just don't seem worth it tbh.

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    Posted to on 23:23:38 - 16/08/14 (2 month ago)
    If you want to try to get the dirty bomb to do more damage try making a suggestion in the suggestions forum, but be specific so people know what you what from it.
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