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    Thread created on 17:45:44 - 14/08/14
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    Suddenly a limit of 10 Bil. was placed on collectible items 's prices which would cause big loses , I believe interfering in trade and limiting it and dropping prices suddenly without notifying the sellers about that change 's against rules
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    Posted to on 17:52:58 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    You have created a bug report on this about 5 minutes ago; http://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=19&t=15914560&b=0&a=0
     
    Until we get confirmation from a dev if it's a bug or if in fact a limit has been added, I don't see why you're jumping to conclusions? 
     
    If a price limit has been added then yes, it isn't fair at all without giving prior warning. Even with warning it isn't fair.
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    Posted to on 17:59:56 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Let me know the next time you're selling all your 10b collectibles on market please so I can mug you then...

    Seriously though... why is this a big deal? What kinds of items are worth more than 10b that will be sold in bazaars? DBs/one of a kind items? Do people (not idiots) really sell those on market and in bazaars? Sounds more like a deliberate limitation to stop people listing massively priced items...
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    Posted to on 18:49:09 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)

    bogie [148747]

    Let me know the next time you're selling all your 10b collectibles on market please so I can mug you then...

    Seriously though... why is this a big deal? What kinds of items are worth more than 10b that will be sold in bazaars? DBs/one of a kind items? Do people (not idiots) really sell those on market and in bazaars? Sounds more like a deliberate limitation to stop people listing massively priced items...

     It is a convenient way to move cash between multis.

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    Posted to on 19:24:42 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)

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    bogie [148747]

    Let me know the next time you're selling all your 10b collectibles on market please so I can mug you then...

    Seriously though... why is this a big deal? What kinds of items are worth more than 10b that will be sold in bazaars? DBs/one of a kind items? Do people (not idiots) really sell those on market and in bazaars? Sounds more like a deliberate limitation to stop people listing massively priced items...

     It is a convenient way to move cash between multis.

     How? You'd get an IP block...

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    Posted to on 20:14:11 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Trade it for stuff which is worth the  money you want ie oil rigs, stocks, flowers, drugs, meds and a bit of money.
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    Posted to on 20:25:46 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    it 's unfair of accusing all players of having multi s as if they follow ur example , I build myself from scratch but one feature which i enjoy in the game 's the free trading system , no limitation so players develop negotiating skill .. beside no one will step into buying or exchanging it if they know it 's limited so they can 't get profits from reselling.
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    Posted to on 20:49:10 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
     

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    it 's unfair of accusing all players of having multi s as if they follow ur example , I build myself from scratch but one feature which i enjoy in the game 's the free trading system , no limitation so players develop negotiating skill .. beside no one will step into buying or exchanging it if they know it 's limited so they can 't get profits from reselling.

     So what exactly are you trading that's worth 10b? Why are you making any kind of fuss over a non-issue here? xD Quit trying to pretend you're a high flying trader by complaining about a limit of 10b! I mean come on... xD

    "NO ONE WILL START TRADING WHEN THEY CAN'T SELL THEIR BOTTLES OF BEER FOR 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!" ....well... shit...
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    Posted to on 20:58:38 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)

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    bogie [148747]

    Let me know the next time you're selling all your 10b collectibles on market please so I can mug you then...

    Seriously though... why is this a big deal? What kinds of items are worth more than 10b that will be sold in bazaars? DBs/one of a kind items? Do people (not idiots) really sell those on market and in bazaars? Sounds more like a deliberate limitation to stop people listing massively priced items...

     It is a convenient way to move cash between multis.

     How? You'd get an IP block...

    lern2multi

     

    This is the oldest method of moving cash between multis and/or gold/credit/real cash farmers, staff are aware of this and how it is accomplished. Go play a MMO and you will find out real quick how the big boys cheat at games. 
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    Posted to on 21:05:01 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    There was a very serious bug in the Bazaars, ( See Bazaar Repricing Bug thread) every time an item was priced or repriced =>$1T in the bazaar, the bazaar item's number replaced the actual items price (eg Bazaar Item Number 127=$127 price/item instead of the actual input item price >=$1T). Recommendation was to set a item price limit of =$1T per item, as pricing could be set up to $1e27 with the resulting pricing error.
     
    4000 + items in my bazaar were actually repriced and sold in the Bazaar at $127=Bazaar Item #127, before manually fixing items prices, these items were not sold at the actual price of $1T but $127 each, an obvious error. To date all but 2,966 items returned but by one buyer. 
     
    The recommendation was to set the maximum price at =$1T per bazaar item, not $10B, see details in Bug history for details.

     
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    Posted to on 21:09:37 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Ouch, sorry for your loss hopefully they can fix the problem and make it right for people who lost money.
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    Posted to on 21:21:22 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
    If anyone priced items in their bazaar above =>$1T each, then you probably have the same issue since the RESPO upgrade. With the $10B price limit, it appears bazaars with items above this limit were closed to prevent low sales.
     
    Check your actual bazaar sales events and bazaar pricing for a large volume of Actual Sales of very low item price sales after repricing in your bazaars.
     
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    Posted to on 22:30:00 - 14/08/14 (1 month ago)
     

    bogie [148747]

    Let me know the next time you're selling all your 10b collectibles on market please so I can mug you then...

    Seriously though... why is this a big deal? What kinds of items are worth more than 10b that will be sold in bazaars? DBs/one of a kind items? Do people (not idiots) really sell those on market and in bazaars? Sounds more like a deliberate limitation to stop people listing massively priced items...

     What about those of us that had staff collectibles that we didnt want to sell but showed off in bazaar because nobody looks at display cabinets anymore?Its one thing to change a rule but to automatically change my pricing without forewarning is absolute horsepoop. Yes I know they didnt sell and were unlikely to but that is far from the point. For the record I was offered 13B by a (now fedded) myanmaar player for my burmese flag back in the day

    edit- I got no problem at all with the rule change mainly due to the points you made, but to change my pricing without my knowledge is offside.
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    Posted to on 14:38:40 - 15/08/14 (1 month ago)

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    bogie [148747]

    Let me know the next time you're selling all your 10b collectibles on market please so I can mug you then...

    Seriously though... why is this a big deal? What kinds of items are worth more than 10b that will be sold in bazaars? DBs/one of a kind items? Do people (not idiots) really sell those on market and in bazaars? Sounds more like a deliberate limitation to stop people listing massively priced items...

     What about those of us that had staff collectibles that we didnt want to sell but showed off in bazaar because nobody looks at display cabinets anymore?Its one thing to change a rule but to automatically change my pricing without forewarning is absolute horsepoop. Yes I know they didnt sell and were unlikely to but that is far from the point. For the record I was offered 13B by a (now fedded) myanmaar player for my burmese flag back in the day

    edit- I got no problem at all with the rule change mainly due to the points you made, but to change my pricing without my knowledge is offside.

     Wasn't aware that they had retroactively enforced this change :/ That does seem a bit risky. Was anyone actually negatively affected by it before removing items stored there?

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