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    Posted to on 03:35:35 - 04/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Or just train your strength up to a huge amount, and stop crying ffs
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    Posted to on 06:06:59 - 04/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Just tested my theory and it's fair to say I'm correct dexterity does not work 

    Crossblades Vs Lucky_Star

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the left leg for 38782 damage
    Lucky_Star hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the right shoulder for 68184 damage

    Crossblades lost to Lucky_Star
    Great 4.4mil dex vs 1.5 mil speed


    I then attacked them straight after to see this


    Crossblades Vs Lucky_Star

    Crossblades missed with their Diamond Bladed Knife
    Lucky_Star missed with their Diamond Bladed Knife

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 55988 damage
    Lucky_Star hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 135212 damage

    Crossblades lost to Lucky_Star funny thing is my 40k speed missed his 4k dex


    And then with my final 50 energy ...



    Crossblades Vs Rhino

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the left arm for 64515 damage
    Rhino missed with their Nunchakus

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the right foot for 10086 damage
    Rhino hit with their Nunchakus in the stomach for 379523 damage

    Crossblades lost to Rhino

    4.4ml dex vs  3.5mil speed


    http://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=60737262&back=indexhttp://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=60753504&back=index
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    Posted to on 06:51:07 - 04/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Crossblades [1593725]

    Just tested my theory and it's fair to say I'm correct dexterity does not work 

    Crossblades Vs Lucky_Star

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the left leg for 38782 damage
    Lucky_Star hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the right shoulder for 68184 damage

    Crossblades lost to Lucky_Star
    Great 4.4mil dex vs 1.5 mil speed


    I then attacked them straight after to see this


    Crossblades Vs Lucky_Star

    Crossblades missed with their Diamond Bladed Knife
    Lucky_Star missed with their Diamond Bladed Knife

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 55988 damage
    Lucky_Star hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 135212 damage

    Crossblades lost to Lucky_Star funny thing is my 40k speed missed his 4k dex


    And then with my final 50 energy ...



    Crossblades Vs Rhino

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the left arm for 64515 damage
    Rhino missed with their Nunchakus

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the right foot for 10086 damage
    Rhino hit with their Nunchakus in the stomach for 379523 damage

    Crossblades lost to Rhino

    4.4ml dex vs  3.5mil speed


    I think you should try attacking me, I have 1.85mil speed.

    Hank

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    Posted to on 07:51:17 - 04/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Umm, honestly this guy is Dead on correct. Once self busting was nerfed so was dex. I would rather train Def than dex any day however I prefer to stay balanced. I still get hit by people with .02% speed to my dex ratio.

    Dexterity is a joke, and no one knows what is to become of it in the new system.

    For example, this Player has 2.5 times my total stats in Dexterity alone

    Attack Details


    Doc-Holliday Vs JimmyJames

    Doc-Holliday injected a syringe of Epinephrine
    JimmyJames hit with their BT MP9 in the heart for 0 damage

    Doc-Holliday hit with their Jackhammer in the head for 52425228 damage
    Doc-Holliday mugged JimmyJames for $2,425

    http://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=62020523


    my stats....

    Battle Stats
    • Strength: 647,755,439.5154
    • Defense: 647,754,388.1725
    • Speed: 647,755,514.0071
    • Dexterity: 647,754,977.4590
    • Total: 2,591,020,319.1540


    So in closing, Dex is shit.



    Sorry JJ, but you were the best example of an attack on a high dex player.
    Last edited by Doc-Holliday on 08:04:48 - 04/08/14
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    Posted to on 10:50:10 - 04/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Doc-Holliday [1015507]

    Umm, honestly this guy is Dead on correct. Once self busting was nerfed so was dex. I would rather train Def than dex any day however I prefer to stay balanced. I still get hit by people with .02% speed to my dex ratio.

    Dexterity is a joke, and no one knows what is to become of it in the new system.

    For example, this Player has 2.5 times my total stats in Dexterity alone

    Attack Details


     

    Doc-Holliday Vs JimmyJames


    Doc-Holliday injected a syringe of Epinephrine
    JimmyJames hit with their BT MP9 in the heart for 0 damage

    Doc-Holliday hit with their Jackhammer in the head for 52425228 damage
    Doc-Holliday mugged JimmyJames for $2,425

    http://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=62020523


    my stats....

    Battle Stats

    • Strength: 647,755,439.5154
    • Defense: 647,754,388.1725
    • Speed: 647,755,514.0071
    • Dexterity: 647,754,977.4590
    • Total: 2,591,020,319.1540


    So in closing, Dex is shit.




    Sorry JJ, but you were the best example of an attack on a high dex player.

    You can't really argue about unbalanced stat issues then use epinephrine :P That's just the epitome of unbalance in this system.

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    Posted to on 11:45:27 - 06/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Did you read this from the old forum? http://www.torn.com/old_forums.php?forumID=3&ID=14343969
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    Posted to on 16:07:22 - 10/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Doc-Holliday [1015507]

    Umm, honestly this guy is Dead on correct. Once self busting was nerfed so was dex. I would rather train Def than dex any day however I prefer to stay balanced. I still get hit by people with .02% speed to my dex ratio.

    Dexterity is a joke, and no one knows what is to become of it in the new system.

    For example, this Player has 2.5 times my total stats in Dexterity alone

    Attack Details


     

    Doc-Holliday Vs JimmyJames


    Doc-Holliday injected a syringe of Epinephrine
    JimmyJames hit with their BT MP9 in the heart for 0 damage

    Doc-Holliday hit with their Jackhammer in the head for 52425228 damage
    Doc-Holliday mugged JimmyJames for $2,425

    http://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=62020523


    my stats....

    Battle Stats

    • Strength: 647,755,439.5154
    • Defense: 647,754,388.1725
    • Speed: 647,755,514.0071
    • Dexterity: 647,754,977.4590
    • Total: 2,591,020,319.1540


    So in closing, Dex is shit.




    Sorry JJ, but you were the best example of an attack on a high dex player.

     I guess strength is shit too O.o

     

    Battle Stats
    • Strength: 1,132,009,936.3192
    • Defense: 1,031,598,325.2793
    • Speed: 1,067,282,069.5170
    • Dexterity: 5,161,044,159.7206
    • Total: 8,391,934,490.8361
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    Posted to on 17:32:16 - 10/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Now that we've established that all stats are shit, where do we go from here?
    No but seriously.. Say No to legalised scamming, Its just logical.
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    Posted to on 17:39:10 - 10/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Umm.. train Speed and Def. No one called them shit yet.

    Harsh [443611]

    Now that we've established that all stats are shit, where do we go from here?

     

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    Posted to on 21:29:47 - 10/08/14 (1 month ago)
     

    Crossblades [1593725]

    Just tested my theory and it's fair to say I'm correct dexterity does not work 

    Crossblades Vs Lucky_Star

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the left leg for 38782 damage
    Lucky_Star hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the right shoulder for 68184 damage

    Crossblades lost to Lucky_Star
    Great 4.4mil dex vs 1.5 mil speed


    I then attacked them straight after to see this


    Crossblades Vs Lucky_Star

    Crossblades missed with their Diamond Bladed Knife
    Lucky_Star missed with their Diamond Bladed Knife

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 55988 damage
    Lucky_Star hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 135212 damage

    Crossblades lost to Lucky_Star funny thing is my 40k speed missed his 4k dex


    And then with my final 50 energy ...



    Crossblades Vs Rhino

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the left arm for 64515 damage
    Rhino missed with their Nunchakus

    Crossblades hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the right foot for 10086 damage
    Rhino hit with their Nunchakus in the stomach for 379523 damage

    Crossblades lost to Rhino

    4.4ml dex vs  3.5mil speed


     So to prove Dex is shit you *attacked* with it.

    It is common knowledge that dex isn't as good for attacking. So if you wanted to be taken seriously you'd have to showcase your own dex being ineffective on defends.

    Last edited by ReyDuvall on 21:31:22 - 10/08/14
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    Posted to on 01:11:39 - 11/08/14 (1 month ago)
    I don't think you fully understand dexterity if you think 1m spd should not be able to hit 4m dext.
     
    Dexterity is the ability to dodge attacks, not become invincible. The higher you're dexterity the better chance you have of seeing an attack coming and being able to dodge. There are always players out there with better stats and there is always the lucky shot.
     
    4m dext is just starting to grow dext but it is way to low to expect a 1m spd to miss you every attack. Stats are based in 4 groups and you need more then 1 good stat to expect to win battles. 
     
    4m dext v.s. 1m speed = 1m speed will hit you most of the time. Get to 50-100m dext, by that time you will get it.
     
    My dext works fine and does what I expect it to do.
    Last edited by RD_ on 01:11:55 - 11/08/14
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    Posted to on 16:30:39 - 11/08/14 (1 month ago)
    then ansew me this, lets say I have 10k speed, opponent has 100k dex how come the person with 10k speed would miss 9/10 with a 90k difference where as a 3mil difference would have 50/50 chance of getting hit 
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    Posted to on 21:19:59 - 11/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Crossblades [1593725]

    then ansew me this, lets say I have 10k speed, opponent has 100k dex how come the person with 10k speed would miss 9/10 with a 90k difference where as a 3mil difference would have 50/50 chance of getting hit 

     More than just battle stats contribute to attacking/defending.

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    Posted to on 07:16:03 - 12/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Crossblades [1593725]

    then ansew me this, lets say I have 10k speed, opponent has 100k dex how come the person with 10k speed would miss 9/10 with a 90k difference where as a 3mil difference would have 50/50 chance of getting hit 

     Percentages, perhaps?

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    Posted to on 11:39:33 - 12/08/14 (1 month ago)
    I don't train Dex.
     
    I'm just a 3 stat wore!
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    Posted to on 12:44:13 - 12/08/14 (1 month ago)
    I believe in Dex
    try me
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    Posted to on 13:51:17 - 12/08/14 (1 month ago)
    Is not this whole thread a mute point with a revamp of the fighting system just around the corner?
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    Posted to on 15:48:19 - 17/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Stormcast [773244]

    Is not this whole thread a mute point with a revamp of the fighting system just around the corner?

     *moot

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    Posted to on 10:44:46 - 21/08/14 (1 month ago)

    RPG [1858382]

     

    Stormcast [773244]

    Is not this whole thread a mute point with a revamp of the fighting system just around the corner?

     *moot

     ** moo

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    Posted to on 12:56:30 - 21/08/14 (1 month ago)

    Delyrium [904573]

     

    RPG [1858382]

     

    Stormcast [773244]

    Is not this whole thread a mute point with a revamp of the fighting system just around the corner?

     *moot

     ** moo

     ***poo