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    Posted to on 18:35:10 - 15/07/14 (5 month ago)
    1st Donation: 100k
    Respond:"A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Result: Found an Axe

    2nd Donation: 200k
    Respond:"May the Lord be with you."
    Result: Found an Axe
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    Posted to on 01:02:37 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Any of you guys that have been donating/praying get this honor yet from it?

    sins
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    Posted to on 01:13:33 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Nice find Liberta! †That merit would seem to suggest that it is attainable by pure RNG. †

    I would assume this merit would be just as hard to get as the "Stock Analyst" or "Spaced Out" type of merits. †

    Hence you see high degrees of randomness in the results people have posted so far. †As far as high degrees of variance for the exact amount of $ donated. †It might follow some sort of internal addiction type of mechanism like how Drugs and Rehab do, so it would probably be best if people who haven't donated to start with very low amounts like 1$ until it has been proven that high amounts really do get you this merit faster or really affect city finds.

    Things that peak my interest: NPC dialogue almost reminds me of like Red / Brown / and Green results from crimes so associating a response to a certain amount and peoples thresholds might be something to consider...

    ‚ Care to give a little more? I work very hard you know‚¶ ‚
    ‚ How many sins have you committed again? ‚
    ‚ Is that all you can spare? That‚s barely going to cover my chiropodist appointment. ‚
    ‚ You may aswell not have come‚¶ ‚
    ‚ That‚s kind of insulting you know... Do you know how much this building costs to maintain? ‚
    "I forgive you for your sins." (according to Mauk it suggests a negative response)
    "You're so cheap"

    ‚ Hmm, well okay then, thanks I guess. ‚

    ‚ Thanks I suppose‚¶ ‚

    ‚ Have mercy‚¶ ‚
    ‚ A drop in the ocean‚¶ ‚
    ‚ Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. ‚
    ‚ The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. ‚
    ‚ I pray for you‚¶ ‚
    ‚ Did you at least bring me some wine too? ‚
    ‚ You may or may not still be going to hell. ‚
    "May the Lord be with you."
    "Let your faith guide you."

    ‚ Lamborghini, here I come! Thank you my child. ‚
    ‚ I‚m blown away by your generosity, thank Lord I don‚t have to pay income tax! ‚
    "A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    "I will most certainly secure you a place in Heaven."
    "Holy Mary, Jesus and Joseph!"
    "A most gracious donation, I admire your philanthropy."


    Cheers to everyone's effort so far!
    Last edited by maledict on 01:30:21 - 17/07/14
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    Posted to on 03:05:15 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)

    liberta [1612678]

    Any of you guys that have been donating/praying get this honor yet from it?

    sins

    me :D

    Last edited by whiztech on 03:28:51 - 17/07/14
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    Posted to on 06:07:41 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Damn so now I can no longer say it does 'nothing', they finally have added something.

    How many times (aprox.) did you pray?
    http://i.imgur.com/OswXCRU.png
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    Posted to on 06:08:52 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    is it pray or donate?
    Noting to see here... move along
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    Posted to on 07:07:29 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Me being an idiot when I first saw the church my first donation was 1 million that meant a donation of 10k was giving me a negative result, same for 150k. The higher money donated appears to mean you need to consecutively donate more to get a positive result.
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    Posted to on 10:23:48 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Now the question is... was this award only added today to that page? Or has it always existed... and just didn't appear because no one had it yet? Which raises the question of what other awards are still out there, existing and not yet acquired?
    http://i.imgur.com/OswXCRU.png
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    Posted to on 10:56:27 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    I was pondering if maybe you had to pray as many times as crimes you had done to get this, but looking at whiztech's stats I think I can cross that idea off.

    So now the question is what are the factors that count as sins and is it praying, donating or a combination of both that apply here.

    Whiztech, were you praying or donating or both? and did you keep any record oh how much/how many times?

    Edit, it could be a set amount that acquires this award, but I think it is more individually based, ie your sins = x and you must pray/donate x amount to attain it.
    Last edited by MrClandestine on 10:59:34 - 17/07/14
    Attack me & lose       = $150,000
    Attack me & runaway = $450,000
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    Posted to on 11:08:52 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    I dont know if i i ever missed this, but since respo was released, i donate $10 everyday (todays total is $240, it is 24 days since respo? Lol), and i pray once a day too..maybe i did missed a day or two, or did them more than once a day (i doubt this because i visit the church after my e refill), but i dont really remember or keep track it because i never thought there is an award for it..

    My theories:

    1. You need to consistently donate everyday till you get the award
    2. You need to consistently pray everyday till you get the award
    3. Pure luck
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    Posted to on 11:16:35 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)

    whiztech [1665226]

    I dont know if i i ever missed this, but since respo was released, i donate $10 everyday (todays total is $240, it is 24 days since respo? Lol), and i pray once a day too..maybe i did missed a day or two, or did them more than once a day (i doubt this because i visit the church after my e refill), but i dont really remember or keep track it because i never thought there is an award for it..

    My theories:

    1. You need to consistently donate everyday till you get the award
    2. You need to consistently pray everyday till you get the award
    3. Pure luck

    Any of these could be true, or maybe a combination of 1 & 2, let's hope it's not 3.
    With such a low amount donated we can obviously rule out total donated as a factor, I will try to donate $100 everyday and pray everyday for a month, but I do occasionally miss a day of torn, if a few people try this we could find out pretty soon.

    Attack me & lose       = $150,000
    Attack me & runaway = $450,000
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    Posted to on 11:41:39 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    I wonder if there is another factor that contributes to it or that affects the amount. the daily or regular action could make sense, after all most religions require daily or weekly prayer/contribution.†

    My wonder is if something affects "the sin", be it crimes, drugs or something else that might change the amounts needed to then be sin-free. I have a feeling there might be another factor to getting the honor, or something that could affect how long one must pray or how much needs to be contributed. speculating of course.†

    thank you whiztech for sharing with us!
    Last edited by daphne on 13:47:31 - 17/07/14
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    Posted to on 12:44:16 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Donated in $1 increments and it took $7 to get two "Let you faith guide you" responses:

    First $1 response: "May the Lord be with you."
    Second $1 response: "Let your faith guide you."
    searched city...found no items
    Third $1 response: "I forgive you for your sins."
    Fourth $1 response: "A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Fifth $1 response: "A most gracious donation, I admire your philanthropy."
    Sixth $1 response: "A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Seventh $1 response: "Let your faith guide you."
    searched city...found a box of sweethearts



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    Posted to on 13:42:43 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    My theory

    Its a praying version of the cannabis OD honor.

    /end†
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    Posted to on 14:59:14 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Not sure if this helps or just annoys people. I am relatively new and my awareness is ZERO. I have only donated about 3 times so far, the highest being $100,000 at once. I found a few low level items since RESPO.

    But the reason I write this as I found a skateboard a few days back. My jaw pretty much hit the floor. Don't know what this says about awareness and the new system - maybe a just got astronomically lucky.
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    Posted to on 15:19:51 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)

    EscapedGoblin [1849481]

    Not sure if this helps or just annoys people. I am relatively new and my awareness is ZERO. I have only donated about 3 times so far, the highest being $100,000 at once. I found a few low level items since RESPO.

    But the reason I write this as I found a skateboard a few days back. My jaw pretty much hit the floor. Don't know what this says about awareness and the new system - maybe a just got astronomically lucky.

    well it says absolutely nothing about how to get the honor!

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    Posted to on 15:21:00 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)
    Cleared city, donated 10k, found a P90 and a box of sweethearts. My awareness is 0. If I have the time later today I'll try it again.
    Death comes to all, rise and conquer! - Ezniach
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    Posted to on 16:01:31 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)

    EscapedGoblin [1849481]

    Not sure if this helps or just annoys people. I am relatively new and my awareness is ZERO. I have only donated about 3 times so far, the highest being $100,000 at once. I found a few low level items since RESPO.

    But the reason I write this as I found a skateboard a few days back. My jaw pretty much hit the floor. Don't know what this says about awareness and the new system - maybe a just got astronomically lucky.

    I just wanted to say:†

    ASSHOLE†

    ;) JK of course.†

    It says nothing about the honor shinster is right, however this thread does also discuss the possibility of the church affecting city finds.†

    Oh one more thing:†

    JERK

    ;) :)

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    Posted to on 18:44:36 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)

    whiztech [1665226]

    I dont know if i i ever missed this, but since respo was released, i donate $10 everyday (todays total is $240, it is 24 days since respo? Lol), and i pray once a day too..maybe i did missed a day or two, or did them more than once a day (i doubt this because i visit the church after my e refill), but i dont really remember or keep track it because i never thought there is an award for it..

    My theories:

    1. You need to consistently donate everyday till you get the award
    2. You need to consistently pray everyday till you get the award
    3. Pure luck

    Or maybe both. :P

    EDIT: From now on I'm going to donate $666 every day.†

    DOUBLE EDIT:†Priest: "I forgive you for your sins." Maybe the point is to get this message for 7 days in a row? idk

    Last edited by CyFeed on 19:08:50 - 17/07/14
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    Posted to on 19:55:25 - 17/07/14 (5 month ago)

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    EscapedGoblin [1849481]

    Not sure if this helps or just annoys people. I am relatively new and my awareness is ZERO. I have only donated about 3 times so far, the highest being $100,000 at once. I found a few low level items since RESPO.

    But the reason I write this as I found a skateboard a few days back. My jaw pretty much hit the floor. Don't know what this says about awareness and the new system - maybe a just got astronomically lucky.

    well it says absolutely nothing about how to get the honor!

    True. But the thread was about the church. If praying and donating increased the city finds and their value. I think it was on topic :)