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    Thread created on 10:00:36 - 26/06/14
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    Church Testing


    Tests done by anyone on the same will be highly appreciated. Let's get results. Either this is right or this is wrong. Let's find out which one.†


    The Story


    Earlier I was on IRC and a few people were discussing about the church, about something that they tried and supposedly think it worked.

    I tried it too once, and supposedly it worked for me.

    The theory is, that you donate to the church till the priest says "Let your faith guide you".

    Post this, if you go and search the city map, you'll find at least one item.

    You need to donate again and again till you get that event.

    There is a threshold for each person which differentiates between negative events and positive events.

    It is different for everyone.

    I haven't found the exact threshold for myself, but 10k works for me for positive events.

    bcfcespley [181564] claims to have a threshold of $125k.
    R4ND0M [42304]†claims to have a threshold of $18,350.

    These are the negative results:
    ‚ Care to give a little more? I work very hard you know‚¶ ‚
    ‚ Hmm, well okay then, thanks I guess. ‚
    ‚ How many sins have you committed again? ‚
    ‚ Is that all you can spare? That‚s barely going to cover my chiropodist appointment. ‚
    ‚ Thanks I suppose‚¶ ‚
    ‚ That‚s kind of insulting you know... Do you know how much this building costs to maintain? ‚
    ‚ Have mercy‚¶ ‚
    ‚ A drop in the ocean‚¶ ‚
    ‚ You may aswell not have come‚¶ ‚
    ‚ The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. ‚
    ‚ I pray for you‚¶ ‚
    ‚ Did you at least bring me some wine too? ‚
    ‚ You may or may not still be going to hell. ‚
    ‚ Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. ‚
    ‚ Lamborghini, here I come! Thank you my child. ‚
    ‚ I‚m blown away by your generosity, thank Lord I don‚t have to pay income tax! ‚

    These are the Positive Results:
    "A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    "I forgive you for your sins."
    "A most gracious donation, I admire your philanthropy."
    "May the Lord be with you."
    "Let your faith guide you."


    Test 1 (By Me):

    I checked the whole city map once and found one Kitchen Knife. I was thorough in my search and that was the only item.
    Then I donated 10k multiple times till I got that result from the priest - "Let your faith guide you".
    On an immediate re-search of the city map post the , I found a Crowbar.

    Note:
    When I tried to repeat the procedure again immediately, I noticed that 10k din't work for me anymore. 25k did work and again I din't bother to find my exact threshold, but the conclusion I derived is that if you try it in immediate succession, the threshold will be higher than your usual. It supposedly resets every hour or so.


    Test Procedure:

    1. Do a thorough search of the map to see that you've claimed all present items on the map.
    2. Go to the church. Try donating 10k. If you get negative results, then donate a bit more. Once you fix an amount that gives you positive results, repeat the amount till you get the result - "Let your faith guide you".
    3. Now go and do a thorough search of the City Map again. If you find an item, voila, test successful and post your results here.
    If you do not find anything, I'd suggest you to go through the entire map again at least once in case you've missed anything.


    Corresponding FAQ (Needs to be Answered):

    1. Is this theory just a myth and the results for the few of us a mere coincidence or does it actually work?
    2. If this works, is "Let your faith guide you" the only positive result which leads to finding an item or are there more positive events which lead to finding an item?
    3. Does the threshold increase if done in quick succession?
    4. Does it only help to find an item or increase the chance of finding a better item aswell?





    All help on the tests will be appreciated. Please post them here on the thread and/or mail me.
    Last edited by Perplex on 10:08:43 - 26/06/14
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    Posted to on 10:03:01 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Thank for the effort bro
    Share us more if you find something useful
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    Posted to on 10:07:20 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Klisto, atm we need more tests.

    So, everyone who can, I'd like if they can do one.
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    Posted to on 10:15:08 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    1st donation: 3k
    Response:†"Let your faith guide you."
    Got item? No.

    2nd donation: 6k
    Response:†"Bless you, my child."
    Got item? No.

    3rd donation: 12k
    Response:†"A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Got item? No.

    4th donation: 24k
    Response:†"Let your faith guide you."
    Got item? No.

    5th donation: 48k
    Response:†"A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Got item? No.

    6th donation: 96k
    Response:†"I forgive you for your sins." (ps: this is not a positive response according to the image)
    Got item? No.

    7th donation: 192k
    Response:†"I‚m blown away by your generosity, thank Lord I don‚t have to pay income tax!"
    Got item? No.

    8th donation:†384k
    Response:†"I will most certainly secure you a place in Heaven."
    Got item? No.

    9th donation: 768k
    Response:†"Lamborghini, here I come! Thank you my child."
    Got item? No.

    10th donation: 1.576m
    Response:†"Holy Mary, Jesus and Joseph!"
    Got item? No.


    Will stop here for now. :P
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    Posted to on 10:18:30 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Mauk [1494436]

    1st donation: 3k
    Response:†"Let your faith guide you."
    Got item? No.

    2nd donation: 6k
    Response:†"Bless you, my child."
    Got item? No.

    3rd donation: 12k
    Response:†"A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Got item? No.

    4th donation: 24k
    Response:†"Let your faith guide you."
    Got item? No.

    5th donation: 48k
    Response:†"A most charitable donation, thank you child."
    Got item? No.

    6th donation: 96k
    Response:†"I forgive you for your sins." (ps: this is not a positive response according to the image)
    Got item? No.

    7th donation: 192k
    Response:†"I‚m blown away by your generosity, thank Lord I don‚t have to pay income tax!"
    Got item? No.

    8th donation:†384k
    Response:†"I will most certainly secure you a place in Heaven."
    Got item? No.

    9th donation: 768k
    Response:†"Lamborghini, here I come! Thank you my child."
    Got item? No.

    10th donation: 1.576m
    Response:†"Holy Mary, Jesus and Joseph!"
    Got item? No.


    Will stop here for now. :P

    You finished so many so fast?? Sure din't miss any item? It takes at least 2-3 minutes to go through the entire city map in the max zoom or 1 less.

    And you don't need to increase donation value as long as you get a positive result.

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    Posted to on 10:21:18 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Well, I was already testing out the increasing values-- it leads to nearly 100% positive responses.
    And, yeah, I'm pretty sure about the items.
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    Posted to on 10:25:19 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Mauk [1494436]

    Well, I was already testing out the increasing values-- it leads to nearly 100% positive responses.
    And, yeah, I'm pretty sure about the items.

    Okay. Some more details too..how many items have you already found today?

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    Posted to on 10:27:00 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Perplex [1849044]

    Mauk [1494436]

    Well, I was already testing out the increasing values-- it leads to nearly 100% positive responses.
    And, yeah, I'm pretty sure about the items.

    Okay. Some more details too..how many items have you already found today?

    I haven't been keeping track of the exact times, but around 4 in the last 24h (which is equivalent to like.. a year of city finds before RESPO :P...).

    Also, I've got 5 points in awareness.

    Last edited by Mauk on 10:29:18 - 26/06/14
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    Posted to on 10:32:20 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Mauk [1494436]

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    Mauk [1494436]

    Well, I was already testing out the increasing values-- it leads to nearly 100% positive responses.
    And, yeah, I'm pretty sure about the items.

    Okay. Some more details too..how many items have you already found today?

    I haven't been keeping track of the exact times, but around 4 in the last 24h (which is equivalent to like.. a year of city finds before RESPO :P...).

    Also, I've got 5 points in awareness.

    Okay I asked cause there could possibly be a cap. I was gonna say 3 items per day according to TCT.

    So maybe if someone reaches the cap, it stops working then.

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    Posted to on 10:34:39 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    I hope not, that'd be quite useless. :/

    Actually, I think there's a pretty good chance it does nothing. We're all too faithful already. :)
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    Posted to on 10:39:50 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Lol..I'm gonna try it again. Let's see.
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    Posted to on 10:48:06 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    You pick up the Box of Chocolate Bars.
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    Posted to on 10:48:46 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    it doesnt help, i havent prayed and ive found 3 items per day since we started worth over 60 million
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    Posted to on 10:48:46 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    I typed it right yeah?? Forgot to copy paste..but yeah I found that...near the bits n bobs.
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    Posted to on 10:54:35 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

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    it doesnt help, i havent prayed and ive found 3 items per day since we started worth over 60 million

    I did too, not the 60m thing. 3 items per day i mean.

    Although I think, you could find an extra one, those who havent found 3, using this way.

    I donated till I got that result and prayed thrice.

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    Posted to on 10:57:03 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Perplex [1849044]

    UnknownElement [450910]

    it doesnt help, i havent prayed and ive found 3 items per day since we started worth over 60 million

    I did too, not the 60m thing. 3 items per day i mean.

    Although I think, you could find an extra one, those who havent found 3, using this way.

    I donated till I got that result and prayed thrice.

    See, that's the faith I was talking about. :P

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    Posted to on 11:02:01 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    lol
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    Posted to on 11:04:11 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Yeah, I can't even find the nice thresh-hold.†

    Everything under 267k gets scoffed at. Literally I gave him $266,500 and he said†‚ That‚s kind of insulting you know... Do you know how much this building costs to maintain?"


    Then everything over 267k and he's going to buy a Lamborghini or he shouts 'Sweet Jesus, Mary and Joseph" in my face.†

    I just spent 16mil trying to narrow down the thresh-hold but it seems to move a little because sometime $266,700 would yield a result that seems to say "that's too much" and sometimes the same number had a result that says "that's too little".

    So I really don't know where the threshold could be. Everything I tried less that 265k or so yielded a "that's not enough" reply.
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    Posted to on 11:11:51 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    i honestly think its just a money and energy sink thats all. nothing special about it, wouldnt be suprised tho if somehow its included in the updated missions to force people to waste some money on it
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    Posted to on 11:13:58 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

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    Yeah, I can't even find the nice thresh-hold.†

    Everything under 267k gets scoffed at. Literally I gave him $266,500 and he said†‚ That‚s kind of insulting you know... Do you know how much this building costs to maintain?"


    Then everything over 267k and he's going to buy a Lamborghini or he shouts 'Sweet Jesus, Mary and Joseph" in my face.†

    I just spent 16mil trying to narrow down the thresh-hold but it seems to move a little because sometime $266,700 would yield a result that seems to say "that's too much" and sometimes the same number had a result that says "that's too little".

    So I really don't know where the threshold could be. Everything I tried less that 265k or so yielded a "that's not enough" reply.

    I don't even know what is it based on. For me, it's a mere 10-20k. So high for you.