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    Thread created on 02:27:45 - 26/06/14
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    I guess we need to start a new one?

    This is to replace the army points thread.

    Save up your points, the bigger the amount spent at once, the better result you will get.

    Do not spend on strength, it would be a waste.

    Do not spend on a capped stat, it would be a waste.

    Please provide as much information as you can. The only presumed factors are current defense and amount of points. Including your current happiness level, job stats, gym membership, fighting stats, drug addiction, level, or any other personal stat you wish to share from the point of spending points. Their effect is not known and is not noticeable; and if existent has gone completely un-noted up to this point so more data can clarify this further.

    The Furor of Army Points, Maledict, has created a document containing past examples and explains in detail every question you can come up with.
    On a further note, with my defense almost matching someone on his document with 30mil def I spent 100 points (As he did) with 5000 happy and Balboa's gym membership. I need to find where I pasted the exchange, but the results were very close to this other one. My other stats are basically the same as last time.

    Keep posting exchanges.

    For questions, go here (http://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=treads&f=3&t=15909122&b=0&a=0) (And rate up!! He did a lot of work!)
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    Posted to on 02:54:34 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Why is spending on strength a waste? †when i spent on defence i got a huge boost. †is it different for strength?
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    Posted to on 03:11:25 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    You can find the old forum posts here:

    http://www.torn.com/old_forums.php

    I might mail maledict about re-posting his stuff here...
    Last edited by Butters on 03:11:58 - 26/06/14

     

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    Posted to on 03:11:42 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    doesnt the casino do a speed boost ? has anyone seen the gains you get from that ?
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    Posted to on 04:24:49 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Declan [183578]

    Why is spending on strength a waste? †when i spent on defence i got a huge boost. †is it different for strength?

    There's more info in the goodle doc - I've dug up a link for it here, but it's of maledicts making so credit goes to him and all the players who supplied the actual data:

    docs.google.com/document/d/1POcRMwOrlEjQKdxqc2UYK0kt8AZT91znY5T91BdgUlM/edit?pli=1

     

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    Posted to on 13:27:24 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Happiness also does not seem to heavily influence gains according to the doc
    Save your DVDs

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    Posted to on 14:28:31 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    when u say jp whats good amount 1000?
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    Posted to on 14:42:23 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    theres a new thread about army already...
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    Posted to on 15:24:35 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)
    where is the thread on fitness centre gains? or isn't there one?
    I AM DOING SLUTTING 32 HITS A DAY LOSSES/RUNS 1M OR BEST OFFER MAIL ME TO DISCUSS TERMS
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    Posted to on 21:13:35 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Declan [183578]

    Why is spending on strength a waste? †when i spent on defence i got a huge boost. †is it different for strength?

    It's a waste compared to defense gains. The strength gains are much lower, and defense is, or at least was, always the harder stat to train up. I personally would much rather spend them on defense, or if that was capped I would use them on spying for a lot of money (Trading forums are great) and also get the personal stat up either for the merit or just bragging rights.

    Taksas027 [444122]

    theres a new thread about army already...

    I was waiting for it since the RESPO launch, but never saw it so I made this one.



    Sinkhan [253041]

    Happiness also does not seem to heavily influence gains according to the doc
    Save your DVDs

    It does not seem to, although there is some other factor due to the variances noted and the answer is still unclear. Due to the Stability of gains I am thinking manual or intelligence may be related as there may be a few players who buffed those out. Endurance and Intelligence used to be much easier to come by in job bonuses. I'm not sure about endurance, as mine is pretty high and I didn't notice much of a difference in a 100 point exchange, but then again I do not know the current person I am matching to nor his gym membership nor his working stats. That's why I was waiting for King Bradley to come back on so I could check the doc and mail the guy. 10$ says he is updating it and making it even more awesome.

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    Posted to on 22:08:35 - 26/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Robb-Stark [1075937]

    doesnt the casino do a speed boost ? has anyone seen the gains you get from that ?

    No. I work in the casino and no speed specials.†

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    Posted to on 08:19:51 - 27/06/14 (3 month ago)
    sry for double
    Last edited by Btooom on 08:23:07 - 27/06/14
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    Posted to on 08:22:30 - 27/06/14 (3 month ago)
    Found re-post here:†http://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=search&q=1677916&f=0&y=0
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    Posted to on 00:48:38 - 28/06/14 (3 month ago)

    First, I'd like to thank everyone for still referring to the old thread and I'd like to apologize for not putting this out earlier after the RESPO update.

    Although it's been written earlier in this thread, I just wanted to chime in to those of you still looking for answers regarding the Army Job.

    I'm gonna EMPHASIZE that the a lot of the answers are in the first two posts of the new Army Guide found here:

    http://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=treads&f=3&t=15909122&b=0&a=0

    For those seeking answers please do your very best with reading first before asking, since some time was spent trying to make it †:)

    Also please do not block quote huge chunks of my posts or anyone else ... it hurts my eyes.

    As always any comments or criticism is appreciated. †If anyone has recently (after RESPO update) turned in Army Points I would be pretty interested in seeing your results if anything to confirm that nothing has been done to the Army as of yet.

    For those wondering, I did not want to dump the entire contents of the googledoc onto these forums because:
    1.) I think it's unnecessary (no one reads it anyway)
    2.) its ugly
    3.) formatting on the new forums is still annoying
    4.) i don't want someone block quoting (which as you can see has already failed)

    However if for some reason a lot of people want it there I can do so at a later time.

    ~m
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    Posted to on 05:23:51 - 28/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Mine Furor!

    Lol at 1 (This part).


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    Posted to on 12:48:12 - 28/06/14 (3 month ago)
    i got 938 job points in army
    and virtually no def?
    any tips?
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    Posted to on 19:32:28 - 28/06/14 (3 month ago)

    Esper [422033]

    Mine Furor!

    If you don't want to make people wince in brain-pain you can also spell it Mein Fuhrer.

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    Posted to on 15:29:08 - 29/06/14 (3 month ago)

    FireSkate12 [1574955]

    i got 938 job points in army
    and virtually no def?
    any tips?

    Yes, yes, and yes again. Maledicts doc is a good source, but as he stated nobody reads it -.- sigh. That statement is 50% sarcasm... 50% true.

    If you have virtually no defense, I would recommend saving a lot lot of points and not training it unless...

    Now if you have some money set aside, using dvds and ex to max out your happy, this would actually make training it a good idea. With your happy maxed, train defense up a decent amount... (50k is a good number I think). Otherwise, train your other stats while the points build. Once your points are high (The higher the better, army points appear to be incremental) use them. Please feel free to post personal stats that might be related.

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    Esper [422033]

    Mine Furor!

    If you don't want to make people wince in brain-pain you can also spell it Mein Fuhrer.

    Haha! Thanks.

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    Posted to on 15:56:33 - 29/06/14 (3 month ago)
    can anyone tell me where I would find peoples gains from fitness centre?
    I AM DOING SLUTTING 32 HITS A DAY LOSSES/RUNS 1M OR BEST OFFER MAIL ME TO DISCUSS TERMS
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    Posted to on 19:46:50 - 19/07/14 (3 month ago)
    Starting defense:†3,113,504.1072
    Happy: 3,500

    You changed 1,500 army points for†4,218,054.2754†defense.
    By Yoshihiro