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Thread created on Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:25:06
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There is much war and debate about who the very top factions are; 39th vs HT? Evo vs SA? 2.0 vs FTW? But that's not what this thread is about.

Whilst we know rank is a bit of a crude measure, and most factions can beat another one day, and lose the next - I think it's fair to say that the top 9 are fairly solid. JFK, Evolution, JFK 2.0, PT - Family, Subversive Alliance, 39th Street Killers and HT. Forged Through War are the newest addition to this lot, but I will include them. Also, Mercs Inc (#22) are fairly well known to be at least this strong.

But is the final member of the top 10?
I firstly look at the HoF: Devastation, Vinerri and Melita Knights are all under 35 members - a number disadvantage lets them down. Decimation and Ctrl Alt Death have pretty much died.
The rest I would all say are contenders, however none of them are warring currently.
I'm not sure who is rank 21 - but they could be it.
TuS and Milk n Cookies are two I would consider - they're good chainers and very active. The only other one I could think of is IBB (a controversial choice I know), but they're large, active - and they're only getting stronger with all their specials!

So who do we think are the current top-but-not-quite-elite factions?


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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 13:33:18
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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 14:32:19
Vegas or N.O.O.B if they started warring actively. Other than that i'd say TuS then M&C very close behind. IBB isn't a contender.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 15:17:04
At this moment in time, I think TuS and Merc's would be HT.
Closely followed behind by M&C.
As mentioned above Helvete are strong along with BB at Trigger Happy.

For now I would exlude HT, and have Mercs and TuS at #9 and #10.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 15:25:07
i would defo have mercs in there, if Vegas or N.O.O.B were more active in warring then maybe one of them would fill in the other slot, not sure if i would consider TUS or M&C in top 10, but very close to it

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 15:34:27
JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 15:44:28
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 16:50:08
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future


FTW were not around 18 months ago, you must be thinking of those damn Digga's

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 17:00:52
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future


FTW were not around 18 months ago, you must be thinking of those damn Digga's


So if we rename to Digga's again, can we merge with you?

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 17:21:13
I would say I miss shinnys faction chat rants but I don't think faction chat has worked properly since he left! Come back shinny, the rest of torn wants chat back

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:19:13
Merc's is a very good faction. They have tough players and good chainers. So at the moment I would say they are the final faction in the top 10 factions.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:31:15
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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:37:06
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It is most definitely merc... They are stronger than some of the, as hobbie puts it, "fairly solid" top 9 factions.. M&C, tus and other factions mentioned should not be able to compete with merc, in my opinion.


He already included mercs in the top 9

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:39:08
Interesting thoughts - I do think Trigger Happy could be strong given a little more time. I did already include Mercs in the top 9, as people say it's a no brainer.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:44:37
Top 9 (in no particular order): JFK, EVO, SA, Merc's, PT, HT, FTW, 2.0 and 39th.

The final slot would probably be a toss up between MnC and TuS. Seeing as our war was one of the longest in this war system, we are very evenly matched.

Until NOOB and Vegas go back to waring I don't think they can be realistically placed in the top 10.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:45:29
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future


If you may have forgot let me remind you that M&C have lost to both NOOB and TUS. They lost against noob in 3 way war against JFK2.0 them and noob. And they gave about 16k bonus respect. And they lost to TuS giving them 40k bonus respect. And DA lost to cold fusion and most important is that they have lost many of their core members and they have new recruits which aren't strong enough, and they also lost to WP too. So M&C and DA aren't really top 10 faction. They are in top 15 though.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:50:48
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future


If you may have forgot let me remind you that M&C have lost to both NOOB and TUS. They lost against noob in 3 way war against JFK2.0 them and noob. And they gave about 16k bonus respect. And they lost to TuS giving them 40k bonus respect. And DA lost to cold fusion and most important is that they have lost many of their core members and they have new recruits which aren't strong enough, and they also lost to WP too. So M&C and DA aren't really top 10 faction. They are in top 15 though.



We have since beat NOOB after the 3 way. Also, 3 way wars mean very little as it all depends on tactics on who you hit first, so can't be considered a true representation.


Against TuS, without wishing to revive any ill feeling, they had several guests, and did a surprise declare on us (whilst stacked). We still gave them a hell of a war.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 18:52:49
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future


If you may have forgot let me remind you that M&C have lost to both NOOB and TUS. They lost against noob in 3 way war against JFK2.0 them and noob. And they gave about 16k bonus respect. And they lost to TuS giving them 40k bonus respect. And DA lost to cold fusion and most important is that they have lost many of their core members and they have new recruits which aren't strong enough, and they also lost to WP too. So M&C and DA aren't really top 10 faction. They are in top 15 though.


DA's army of guests lost to Cold-Fusions army of guests, It couldn't have been classed as a real win to either 'faction'

DA back how they used to be however, Easily top 10. Not sure on Cold-Fusion.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 19:20:56
If its for the activeness and not the ability which the faction can show in waer if they want then TuS would be in and Vegas out. But I do think vegas is an amazing faction and very strong too. And they have been training for 6months which shows they stats to fight. They are just not active as 39th and HT were.
And about DA they aren't really in top with their current members. They were when they had their old members and their war showed it. And mercs are in top 5 as they gave evo a good fight when they just started as a whole big faction and with time they had improved can easily be placed in top 5.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 20:04:57
I apologize. I must have missed Mercs in the top 9. I agree with what others have said then that TuS or M&C would probably make the 10th spot.

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 20:10:07
Evo
JFK
SA
FTW
PT
39th
DA
2.0
HT
Merc
M&C

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 20:12:57
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


DA should be on that list, on their day they are damn tough to beat and M & C are not far off, I would say they are where FTW were about 18 months ago, they just need to get a few big hitters or develop the high statted players they currently have like we did

NOOB, TUS & IBB are way off ATM but have potential in the future


If you may have forgot let me remind you that M&C have lost to both NOOB and TUS. They lost against noob in 3 way war against JFK2.0 them and noob. And they gave about 16k bonus respect. And they lost to TuS giving them 40k bonus respect. And DA lost to cold fusion and most important is that they have lost many of their core members and they have new recruits which aren't strong enough, and they also lost to WP too. So M&C and DA aren't really top 10 faction. They are in top 15 though.


DA are one of those factions that when they go active in war, all of their big memos return and then they disappear to guest etc when DA are not at war, M & C are growing, I see them being a tough faction to beat in the future, they just need to get their tactics sorted to make up for what they lack in stats, alittle like we did at FTW, we hit and run with the best of them, not pretty but effective when you fighting against factions with tens of billions in stats

As for Vegas, they, like many have been training for a while now, when they go back to war and get rid of the chaining rust, beware, they will have some beasts

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 21:37:30
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


I would have to agree with that list , unless there is someone who slipped my mind
Just behind i would have tus , that is a great faction , highly active , great leaders who organise chains well , great irc set up and big resources .

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 21:50:52
Rank 1. JFK/ SA/ AOW/ Evolution/ (Each can win on any given day depending on tactics and resources including guest chainers)
Rank 2. PT/ HT/ 39th/ Merc's/JFK 2 /DA (PT/HT/DA Established/, Merc's unproven versus Rank 1 factions)
Rank 3. Sarkoz/ Vegas/ Untouchables/ BC Vulpes/ SHiT/JFK 3.0

I challenge all of you at the same time- Think you have what it takes to be on the list- Prove it

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 23:11:38
N.0.0.B are actually in war helping out MMCP have been on and of for a while now

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Posted on Thu Jul 04, 2013 23:53:00
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


Enjoying all the HOF Rank 10 shows and wars

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Posted on Fri Jul 05, 2013 00:20:37
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


I would have to agree with that list , unless there is someone who slipped my mind
Just behind i would have tus , that is a great faction , highly active , great leaders who organise chains well , great irc set up and big resources .


...and rhinos fly too - FTW is not in the top 200

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how is this tard not forum banned yet :-/

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Posted on Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:04:11
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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


I would have to agree with that list , unless there is someone who slipped my mind
Just behind i would have tus , that is a great faction , highly active , great leaders who organise chains well , great irc set up and big resources .





...you are the absolute best in the game James Bond


Thank you the top 10 HOF factions are the elite the best of the best in the game. James Bond

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Posted on Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:24:07
Vulpes ftw! (ehehee)

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Posted on Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:46:29
Thanks a lot for considering us in top 10. But as a few have already said above, we dont deserve to be talked as being in top 10 right now. We are in a transition period trying to recruit new blood as quite a lot of active chainers of the past have now become semi retired. We havnt warred properly since the three way war which is about 7 months ago.

Well for active chainers, they are active so some are currently guest chaining and helping out in mmcp and other factions that are currently warring. I dont worry much about them, they will come back when we are warring and need them.

If we get our act and decide to war again, those out of the faction are likely to come back to chain. My task is to persuade those currently in faction to chain actively again.

Right now i would put one of TuS or M&C for the final place of top 10.

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Posted on Fri Jul 05, 2013 02:48:38
#1. AoW
#2. The rest are irrelevant, there are no prizes for second place.

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JFK, JFK2.0, Evo, S.A., Mercs, PT, 39th, HT, FTW and Vegas are the top 10 and no other factions are at the lvl of these.


I would have to agree with that list , unless there is someone who slipped my mind
Just behind i would have tus , that is a great faction , highly active , great leaders who organise chains well , great irc set up and big resources .


...and rhinos fly too - FTW is not in the top 200

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how is this tard not forum banned yet :-/

Well first off he's not a tard, secondly he's an active intelligent forum contributor who never breaks the rules.

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Well for active chainers, they are active so some are currently guest chaining and helping out in mmcp and other factions that are currently warring.

Cause the Vulpites are hard asses.

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