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Beerstein

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 11:41:36
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What i think is that its a dog like tactic but then again ched made them tactics availible when he took away the leave cap. So MMCP arent cheating but its something that needs to be fixed and can easily be done by adding a simple 1 - 3 day cap on leaving.

<3 Tus Gl buds.


Feels to me like people lose anything and suddenly they want changes to the game to accommodate them. If you ask me people need to learn how to lose better, Vulpes is always open to people who want to learn how to lose properly. Anyways this is nothing new in torn the loser always has a complaint when it comes to big wars. Their strategy is no less valid than taking in guest chainers. If your argument is to prevent what they did then it should also be new members to a faction can't help in an already declared war. Your stance is quite clearly 1 sided.

*waves MMCP pom poms*


to long cba reading it all but ill disagree just because and to start a bigger arguement down the line.


This doesn't surprise me so I came prepared with a TL;DR in advance.
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Viscount

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 11:41:58
War is war guys, doesn't matter what we think of the others tactics. Lets not moan about it, lets get smarter. But whatever happens lets get it over with quickly, cause some of us want to TRAIN....

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 11:44:48
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War is war guys, doesn't matter what we think of the others tactics. Lets not moan about it, lets get smarter. But whatever happens lets get it over with quickly, cause some of us want to TRAIN....


^^ This

Don't complain about the tactics that are being used!

Each faction wants to win!

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 11:58:09
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War is war guys, doesn't matter what we think of the others tactics. Lets not moan about it, lets get smarter. But whatever happens lets get it over with quickly, cause some of us want to TRAIN....


^^ This

Don't complain about the tactics that are being used!

Each faction wants to win!


Correct! So don't complain then do more less talks right now

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:11:05
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Go MMCP. I think it is not depend on luck. Just on tactics of cowardice .


Fixed it for you!

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:20:59
It's pretty much a pathetic ploy to win what was an even war that was at deadlock. You'd think perseverance and effort would win a war like this but no. Hire the no.1 mercenary in the game who site in front of his comp 8 hours straight on a Saturday (???????) and kick the majority of your actual faction and you have effectively prevent one side from winning leaving 2 possible outcomes.

1: TuS stoop to that level and stalemate the war
2: Allow BB pick off the 50% with minimal fuss

Was a fun war until now, it's just one of those stupid influences Ched had on 'improving' the warring system.. Well done Sir.

BTW: Beerstein, you're a childish troll.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:34:57
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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:37:36
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Go MMCP. I think it is not depend on luck. Just on tactics of cowardice .


Fixed it for you!


Do you need some vaseline for that sore on your bum

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Also those tus that aren't bitching or whining fair play to you..



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Alex-

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:38:21
Tbf MMCP didn't kick anyone, they got their other accounts to leave

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:41:02
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Go MMCP. I think it is not depend on luck. Just on tactics of cowardice .


Fixed it for you!


Do you need some vaseline for that sore on your bum

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Also those tus that aren't bitching or whining fair play to you..




LOL!

GO MMCP!

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:48:46
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more

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furthest on the rigtis BB and z

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Alex-

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:52:23
Learn BB code bro.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 12:53:47
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Learn BB code bro.


DONE!

teach me?

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 13:48:35
Thanks to BOTH side. Now we can clearly see how flow this system is. (or should we blame user AGAIN ?)

*yawn* less Q Q, more Pew Pew

/me heading bed.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:03:10
Well this the 2nd time this type of tactic is being used against TuS. And by fate sif is also offline now for 5 days the only person who could have taken BB down. And with MMCP down to 4 members its even more hard for TuS to win. And if they win this then they have amazing chainers.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:07:54
Who is MMCP anyway? Sounds like some Tezwar tactics to me lol Quite a low blow if you ask me, but meh. TuS you're the real winners here regardless of what happens.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:08:32
I feel sorry for TuS. I know this is a tactic but in my opinion they have ruined what was a good fair war.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:13:28
MMCP have 4 members and 1 is BB so can not be attacked that is a pretty nob move

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:17:40
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I feel sorry for TuS. I know this is a tactic but in my opinion they have ruined what was a good fair war.


It's not the first time this has happened. In his infinite wisdom, Ched forgot the reasons why he introduced mandatory 7 days in faction when someone joins. Given how it went few years ago, and the removal of 7 days limit I can only expect it'll happen quite often now. On the bright side, TuS can also kick all their members and leave 1 guy offline in another country, so the war will timeout eventually not giving any bonus.

Ah, the joys of Torn's warring engine...

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:20:13
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I feel sorry for TuS. I know this is a tactic but in my opinion they have ruined what was a good fair war.


It's not the first time this has happened. In his infinite wisdom, Ched forgot the reasons why he introduced mandatory 7 days in faction when someone joins. Given how it went few years ago, and the removal of 7 days limit I can only expect it'll happen quite often now. On the bright side, TuS can also kick all their members and leave 1 guy offline in another country, so the war will timeout eventually not giving any bonus.

Ah, the joys of Torn's warring engine...


Yep. It's just such a shame because it was a good war to watch. However like you have already said, Ched has made this even easier to happen.

So really it's just get in a war which is even, do lots of attacks to go for a better bonus. Then get rid of lots of the members and win the war. Get a decent bonus. It's within the rules but it just makes ANOTHER joke of this warring system.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:34:21
It's a shame that a few people condone the tactics used by MMCP, most notably Milk and Cookies.

Stay classy TUS.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:36:01
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I feel sorry for TuS. I know this is a tactic but in my opinion they have ruined what was a good fair war.


It's not the first time this has happened. In his infinite wisdom, Ched forgot the reasons why he introduced mandatory 7 days in faction when someone joins. Given how it went few years ago, and the removal of 7 days limit I can only expect it'll happen quite often now. On the bright side, TuS can also kick all their members and leave 1 guy offline in another country, so the war will timeout eventually not giving any bonus.

Ah, the joys of Torn's warring engine...


Yep. It's just such a shame because it was a good war to watch. However like you have already said, Ched has made this even easier to happen.

So really it's just get in a war which is even, do lots of attacks to go for a better bonus. Then get rid of lots of the members and win the war. Get a decent bonus. It's within the rules but it just makes ANOTHER joke of this warring system.


Doesn't stop a faction without guests from pulling it, can't nerf Bodybagger. The fact is as I mentioned before the "TL;DR" comment the act of dropping weak members to win a war isn't far detached from the act of picking up guest chainers to win a war. The fact is any fac that's simply stronger than their opponent is going to win. When it comes to Bodybagger that strength is absolute, someone has to be top dog and there's no justification to call for a change to that game mechanic unless you call for a change to the one where people bring in guest chainers to carry their war.

You can call it me "trolling" or whatever you want to make you feel better but it is what it is, someones always going to be on top, BB is simply that one man army right now the same way a fac like JFK can (and has) rolled Vulpes while we also have no way of fighting back, welcome to Torn? Just not feeling the complaints are justified if you think guest chaining is okay.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:37:55
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Doesn't stop a faction without guests from pulling it, can't nerf Bodybagger.


Doesn't matter what the stats. If the person is in another country for longer than 24 hours they cannot be attacked. So yes, any noob can prevent any faction and any person from winning and make the war time out.



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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 14:45:15
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Doesn't stop a faction without guests from pulling it, can't nerf Bodybagger.


Doesn't matter what the stats. If the person is in another country for longer than 24 hours they cannot be attacked. So yes, any noob can prevent any faction and any person from winning and make the war time out.



Ah was referring to the 1 man BB wrecking crew strategy that's being pulled (again). To me the complaints feel very singularly focused regarding it being okay to bring in big guys but not drop weak guys due to the position TuS is in. As far as the ability to dump a war via inactivity I'll agree it's a total cheap move and should have been addressed some time ago. At the same time a fac with a strong member can pull the same thing as one with an inactive via stalemating a war to end it.

Making it so if an enemy factions members are totally inaccessible when a war is going to stalemate the opposing side can declare victory would solve the flying and hiding. It'd also solve the perma self hosping part but nothing really solves the strong man stalemating to end a war with no bonus. I don't see that as a huge problem though since the 1 man could just as easily pull a win as a stalemate so it's at his own cost.

I feel the dumping weak members is just as valid as bringing in strong ones or active hitters via guests though. I've been in plenty of wars myself where my fac was unable to beat a single opponent. That's just part of being the weaker guy in a war that is or becomes one sided. To call and for change as well as screaming "cheat" etc. without also calling bringing in guests the same is just silly. There's no difference between dumping weak links and bringing in strong ones, I'm sure a lot of factions in a lot of wars have had both pulled on them, I know mine has, but when it's Bodybagger there's nothing anyone can do since he's top dog such is Torn.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 15:02:48
Both sides are going for the win on a non termed war, so there is no such thing as cheating. As much as you may dislike MMCP's actions it is arguable that the only reason to drop to 4 members was because TuS took on too many high stat chainers and they acted in response. Its not like they haven't used this tactic before in their war with Winterfell.

And Swag I don't see how you could call TuS the real winners at this point because all of the members at MMCP for this war did a great job to put up a fight to a great chaining faction such as TuS with less members. Both sides were doing great until the war suddenly halted.

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 15:17:23
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To call and for change as well as screaming "cheat" etc.


The "cheating" comments few people have posted, have nothing to do with tactics deployed. Would be good to get informed first if you wish to address the issue. Especially if you berate those that said it.



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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 15:23:49
BB has nothing to do with it we have np with BB being in mmcp and more power to him fact is MMCP and even BB can only have so much E but if they would stop leaving and joining and kicking members every 5 sec's it would still be a good war even with BB in there.

i have been in a shit ton of wars over the years i have seen alot of differ shit happen to win wars. But at the point it is now this is just BS we had friends and stuff come over but mmcp has to. [fair is fair]

we have also lost alot of members over the last couple months a lot has alot has retired for the game.
but what was a good war has went to hell cause mmcp is doing the same thing tezwar from wolf pack did.

doesn't matter if you have guess chainers or not who cares but when you take your faction from say 70plus members or more down to nothing and leave top stated members in it so the other faction can't chain at all thats kinda BS.

ya im old school i learned how to chain from back in the day and had a lot of older players teach me the game.

and to those you know who you are and i thank you for all your help along the way.

but TuS pride's its self on not being a BS faction and use dirty tactics to win a war ya we may get guess but we don't drop our members from 90 to 5 within hours/mins we chain heads up like we did back in the day.....

i personally could care less if BB was in TUS or MMCP as long as both sides had members in it for the chain to go on and not to just stop so that all members from one side was gone within sec's of being in the faction.
so Peace out all go TuS hope we win but i doubt it with the Tezwar tactics if MMCP win that way then just prove's even more they suck if MMCP's members come's back and we finish this heads up then thats great. Then ill fix this post and won't dis on MMCP

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 15:24:12
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Both sides have allies and it is well within their right to use said allies. I don't think anyone should really be annoyed by this.
My annoyance lies with the now tiny faction that is MMCP. If they have removed all their members to push for a win then I'll be disappointed.



Anyway since I monitored the war.. it was 60+ member faction head to head with 90+ member faction though both were around 50 - 50 near

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 15:30:04
Go MMCP!

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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 15:30:16
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I feel sorry for TuS. I know this is a tactic but in my opinion they have ruined what was a good fair war.


It's not the first time this has happened. In his infinite wisdom, Ched forgot the reasons why he introduced mandatory 7 days in faction when someone joins. Given how it went few years ago, and the removal of 7 days limit I can only expect it'll happen quite often now. On the bright side, TuS can also kick all their members and leave 1 guy offline in another country, so the war will timeout eventually not giving any bonus.

Ah, the joys of Torn's warring engine...


Yep. It's just such a shame because it was a good war to watch. However like you have already said, Ched has made this even easier to happen.

So really it's just get in a war which is even, do lots of attacks to go for a better bonus. Then get rid of lots of the members and win the war. Get a decent bonus. It's within the rules but it just makes ANOTHER joke of this warring system.


Doesn't stop a faction without guests from pulling it, can't nerf Bodybagger. The fact is as I mentioned before the "TL;DR" comment the act of dropping weak members to win a war isn't far detached from the act of picking up guest chainers to win a war. The fact is any fac that's simply stronger than their opponent is going to win. When it comes to Bodybagger that strength is absolute, someone has to be top dog and there's no justification to call for a change to that game mechanic unless you call for a change to the one where people bring in guest chainers to carry their war.

You can call it me "trolling" or whatever you want to make you feel better but it is what it is, someones always going to be on top, BB is simply that one man army right now the same way a fac like JFK can (and has) rolled Vulpes while we also have no way of fighting back, welcome to Torn? Just not feeling the complaints are justified if you think guest chaining is okay.


I am not complaining about BB. He is a member of SA and he has as much right to go and guest chain as anybody else. I guest chain myself. I am just saying that they ruined what was a good fun war. Not because of guests but because they have kicked so many members.

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