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Posted on Tue May 21, 2013 23:46:26
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After involving this war, I have a idea.

1. Constant War Declaration shouldn't be allowed. Should give at least 1 day minimum preparation time for War declared faction.

2. Should be a Termed war. No Guest Chainer allowed but they can adjust Battle stats or LvL.

- Both owner should decide Maximum Battle stats
- Both owner can kick out their member to adjust gun power and hits before war starts. If they want, they can keep low battle stats member. That player can attack 30+ attack per day if he is active. That is good enough even he is weak.

If they accept those deal, the winner only depend on Active and Strategy. If they aren't good enough Big Hitter, accept the result of war. This is true winner.

3. When both accept Term and condition, fight until Death. Strategy should be interesting way. 100% defending means boring. Fast swift on both Attack and Defend is more interesting.

Later! we want to see more real war.( not guest chainer war )


I disagree with few of the points and dont understand the others

from i take from your post is you think the flaw in war system is the ability to invite guests

I think guests are what makes a war more interesting
have not seen many spicy war where no guests were involved other than termed wars ofcourse

From this war what i think needs to be looked at is
-war limit
----limiting to 300 members means the number of chain achievable is limited.
----also you cant do smash in chain after chain rapidly (which can be good or bad in cases)

-leaving factions
-----I dont think i have to explain this.
-----Having a simple cooldown of 2+ days can fix this problem, while people who have good reason to -----leave and join are not affected much

-Time out
-----This was intended to clean up wars that are not being fought, but it can be abused weather it -----be a defensive method or just poor tactic
-----simple fix is, for war to end the faction A must kill atleast half enemies that are out of -----hospital at any time of the day, but if none is out then war stays on.

Most of all,
Implementing a war system where terms can be accepted through the system
therefore rules can not be broken once accepted.

Anyway, this was a very interesting war
MMCP and TuS put on a good fight
Sad it ended the way it did

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 04:28:08
I wish that we will never face again, a war like that in Future ...





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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 13:48:23
Just shows that without terms factions will do anything for a bonus.

Both factions should be ashamed.

Just my opinion but I've seen mmcp win quite a few good wars with not 1 guest and with TuS it seems like we can't beat 1 guy call in someone who can. This all started cuz you couldn't beat spectre but he was in their faction a month b4 war started so what was the problem? You can beat everyone else right?

Anyways calling in guests cuz your pussies is lame and booting members for an advantage is lame so no respect given to either side. I say you duke it out next month with terms was good while it lasted.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 16:09:02
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Just shows that without terms factions will do anything for a bonus.

Both factions should be ashamed.

Just my opinion but I've seen mmcp win quite a few good wars with not 1 guest and with TuS it seems like we can't beat 1 guy call in someone who can. This all started cuz you couldn't beat spectre but he was in their faction a month b4 war started so what was the problem? You can beat everyone else right?

Anyways calling in guests cuz your pussies is lame and booting members for an advantage is lame so no respect given to either side. I say you duke it out next month with terms was good while it lasted.


Haha, calling in guests is lame & for pussies? Yet you're in SA.. a faction renowned for calling in a shit load of guests whenever the going gets tough. How ironic.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 17:02:12
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Haha, calling in guests is lame & for pussies? Yet you're in SA.. a faction renowned for calling in a shit load of guests whenever the going gets tough. How ironic.


We called in guests only twice in the last 3 years. First time when were highly outnumbered by DA's guests and second time when we warred JFK, but then they had guests too.



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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 17:51:57
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Just shows that without terms factions will do anything for a bonus.

Both factions should be ashamed.

Just my opinion but I've seen mmcp win quite a few good wars with not 1 guest and with TuS it seems like we can't beat 1 guy call in someone who can. This all started cuz you couldn't beat spectre but he was in their faction a month b4 war started so what was the problem? You can beat everyone else right?

Anyways calling in guests cuz your pussies is lame and booting members for an advantage is lame so no respect given to either side. I say you duke it out next month with terms was good while it lasted.


TUS has nothing to be ashamed for, simple as that.

And to be honest I'm sick of seeing stupid comments in this thread now, it honestly needs Graveyarded.

MMCP give TUS no option but to time out this war.





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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 18:05:31
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By MidKnight [332505]
Just shows that without terms factions will do anything for a bonus.

Both factions should be ashamed.

Just my opinion but I've seen mmcp win quite a few good wars with not 1 guest and with TuS it seems like we can't beat 1 guy call in someone who can. This all started cuz you couldn't beat spectre but he was in their faction a month b4 war started so what was the problem? You can beat everyone else right?

Anyways calling in guests cuz your pussies is lame and booting members for an advantage is lame so no respect given to either side. I say you duke it out next month with terms was good while it lasted.


TUS has nothing to be ashamed for, simple as that.

And to be honest I'm sick of seeing stupid comments in this thread now, it honestly needs Graveyarded.

MMCP give TUS no option but to time out this war.





TUS had plenty of options at various points in time. They still have the option to re-populate their members and catch MMCP napping but I doubt they will. Would love to be proved wrong and see a real end to this war though.



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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 18:12:42
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Just shows that without terms factions will do anything for a bonus.

Both factions should be ashamed.

Just my opinion but I've seen mmcp win quite a few good wars with not 1 guest and with TuS it seems like we can't beat 1 guy call in someone who can. This all started cuz you couldn't beat spectre but he was in their faction a month b4 war started so what was the problem? You can beat everyone else right?

Anyways calling in guests cuz your pussies is lame and booting members for an advantage is lame so no respect given to either side. I say you duke it out next month with terms was good while it lasted.


TUS has nothing to be ashamed for, simple as that.

And to be honest I'm sick of seeing stupid comments in this thread now, it honestly needs Graveyarded.

MMCP give TUS no option but to time out this war.





TUS had plenty of options at various points in time. They still have the option to re-populate their members and catch MMCP napping but I doubt they will. Would love to be proved wrong and see a real end to this war though.



Simply because there is nothing preventing MMCP from using their tactic again

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 18:18:32
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Just shows that without terms factions will do anything for a bonus.

Both factions should be ashamed.

Just my opinion but I've seen mmcp win quite a few good wars with not 1 guest and with TuS it seems like we can't beat 1 guy call in someone who can. This all started cuz you couldn't beat spectre but he was in their faction a month b4 war started so what was the problem? You can beat everyone else right?

Anyways calling in guests cuz your pussies is lame and booting members for an advantage is lame so no respect given to either side. I say you duke it out next month with terms was good while it lasted.


TUS has nothing to be ashamed for, simple as that.

And to be honest I'm sick of seeing stupid comments in this thread now, it honestly needs Graveyarded.

MMCP give TUS no option but to time out this war.





TUS had plenty of options at various points in time. They still have the option to re-populate their members and catch MMCP napping but I doubt they will. Would love to be proved wrong and see a real end to this war though.



TUS talked about regrouping and fighting back and a lot of people wanted too.
But after talking about all the different options, like I said, MMCP give TUS no choice but time out the war.

That's not because TUS cant win or don't want to fight back, its because MMCP will only just keep kicking there players / leaving.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 19:11:31
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Haha, calling in guests is lame & for pussies? Yet you're in SA.. a faction renowned for calling in a shit load of guests whenever the going gets tough. How ironic.


We called in guests only twice in the last 3 years. First time when were highly outnumbered by DA's guests and second time when we warred JFK, but then they had guests too.



You used guests in our last war.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 19:22:34
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You used guests in our last war.


I don't think so.. our old member James85 came to help and that's it.

Not many of us expected to put up a decent fight let alone to win.

2013-03-31
11:21:44 AM Htr_ says: I will fight them for fun. We also need 5-8k respect for the next upgrade.
2013-03-31
10:14:48 AM 007 says: Is it worth fighting back then?
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9:18:43 AM Htr_ says: It doesn't matter, we will lose anyway.
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10:11:41 PM 007 says: Looks like 4 way isn't feasible due to short notice.

Short term we will have to put up a fight. Evo will declare this Wednesday. JJ said 5pm. This time doesn't suit us. So two options:

Try negotiate morning start

Or

Try negotiate late start and don't fight until 5/6am next day.

Thoughts?




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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 19:36:32
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You used guests in our last war.


I don't think so.. our old member James85 came to help and that's it.

Not many of us expected to put up a decent fight let alone to win.



Spectre is the only one I can remember specifically, but there were a couple others.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 23:00:35
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You used guests in our last war.


I don't think so.. our old member James85 came to help and that's it.

Not many of us expected to put up a decent fight let alone to win.



Spectre is the only one I can remember specifically, but there were a couple others.


Sorry Jimmy but your wrong here Spectre left 2 days b4 the war started, never made 1 hit in the war.

Sif was in our faction for 5 hours during the war I don't even know why, and he never made 1 hit either lol.
I don't know much about SA b4 I joined 18 months ago but JFK war was the only war where guests joined both sides and we got owned fair and square, no excuses just OWNED haha.
We have spreadsheets for all our wars so we know who the leeches are.
Anyways next 2 months should be interesting let the good times begin.

BTW Jimmy that was a great war kinda hurts to think that you might of thought guests gave us a little edge we just chained our arses off tbh



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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 00:27:29
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You used guests in our last war.


I don't think so.. our old member James85 came to help and that's it.

Not many of us expected to put up a decent fight let alone to win.



Spectre is the only one I can remember specifically, but there were a couple others.


I have been in SA a reasonably long time now and I can only remember guests being used (to the point we are talking about) in the two wars that have already been mentioned. As Midknight mentioned we have reports of who hits so we know who has done what in each of our wars.

We had to work extremely hard to beat EVO and some of us did that little bit extra to try and prove that we could win the war.

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 03:45:07
:)
Run away {TUS}...
Looser....
playing with white page.....
Hidden all TUS member....(Shameless)


Don't blame blur blur blur ....
:D

we r waiting 24/7....
Where is counter tactics .. LOL
Where is brave...

If war over.....
never come back in wars base..... LOL

If I TUS member, I will be die (or) No more playing Torn City..

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 03:56:11
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:)
Run away {TUS}...
Looser....
playing with white page.....
Hidden all TUS member....(Shameless)


Don't blame blur blur blur ....
:D

we r waiting 24/7....
Where is counter tactics .. LOL
Where is brave...

If war over.....
never come back in wars base..... LOL

If I TUS member, I will be die (or) No more playing Torn City..


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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 03:58:16
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If I TUS member, I will be die (or) No more playing Torn City..


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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 04:00:31
MMCP when they fight back are very hard to beat and with N.0.0.B the Big Brother watching over them very hard to beat


i actually spoke to mike during the war and said same thing as he knows how they play from when i war them

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 04:01:18
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i must hit .... i must hit .... i must hit nowxD

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 05:10:41
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You used guests in our last war.


I don't think so.. our old member James85 came to help and that's it.

Not many of us expected to put up a decent fight let alone to win.



Spectre is the only one I can remember specifically, but there were a couple others.


Sorry Jimmy but your wrong here Spectre left 2 days b4 the war started, never made 1 hit in the war.

Sif was in our faction for 5 hours during the war I don't even know why, and he never made 1 hit either lol.
I don't know much about SA b4 I joined 18 months ago but JFK war was the only war where guests joined both sides and we got owned fair and square, no excuses just OWNED haha.
We have spreadsheets for all our wars so we know who the leeches are.
Anyways next 2 months should be interesting let the good times begin.

BTW Jimmy that was a great war kinda hurts to think that you might of thought guests gave us a little edge we just chained our arses off tbh



I remember him joining late in the war, after you had a decent lead, so no I do not think he turned the tide for you whatsoever. And looking through my logs, I see him making at least one attack, and being retalled. Bitwa was another one.

And I'm not putting you down for it, a couple guests is no big deal.

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 05:33:40
Time to take more drugs wars need to be fought till the death

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 05:36:45
Let BB out of this and There will be result

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 06:22:34

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15.Pornstarpopeye
16.Hinata


Do you know this army lead by Bitwa gathered to destroy MMCP 5 months ago?

Don't you think there should be some moderations in recruiting policy?

Everybody please answers me which middle range faction can fight back this kind of hitters?

After we have fought so hard to win (nearly to win), he called in those fighters.

They enjoyed to beat us, mock us.

Now is the second experience of MMCP.

Does the war means competition of Recruiting powers?


I pay respects to Resurrection. Because, although they can call guest chainners from other HOF factions when we almost win the war, they didn't. They accepted the result.

Now Do you Know the Difference?





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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 06:50:16
lol you are complaining about guests when during one of the days you guys got at least 12 new guests..
Sir, your argument is invalid.

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 06:58:41
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lol you are complaining about guests when during one of the days you guys got at least 12 new guests..
Sir, your argument is invalid.


From the very beginning of the war, I was worrying about Z coming.
Twelve or 15, whatever, they are nothing compare to Z and other well renowned guest chainners.
I'm pointing out the rationale of Recruiting.



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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 07:22:39
I have seen in war.
I am not clear his name (Lembo... Lambo.. )
He is great hits to specter. I like this attack.
I applaud him.

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 07:29:19
By agugu [1434318]
:)
Run away {TUS}...
Looser....
playing with white page.....
Hidden all TUS member....(Shameless)


Don't blame blur blur blur ....
:D

we r waiting 24/7....
Where is counter tactics .. LOL
Where is brave...

If war over.....
never come back in wars base..... LOL

If I TUS member, I will be die (or) No more playing Torn City..


Your an idiot please stfu.

And well if you look at the first page youll see alot of people praising MMCP for using a (strategy) but i dont see anyone giving TUS praise for there strategy.

Well anyway Well done to TUS they Played this was smart.

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 07:45:25
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16.Hinata


Do you know this army lead by Bitwa gathered to destroy MMCP 5 months ago?

Don't you think there should be some moderations in recruiting policy?

Everybody please answers me which middle range faction can fight back this kind of hitters?

After we have fought so hard to win (nearly to win), he called in those fighters.

They enjoyed to beat us, mock us.

Now is the second experience of MMCP.

Does the war means competition of Recruiting powers?


I pay respects to Resurrection. Because, although they can call guest chainners from other HOF factions when we almost win the war, they didn't. They accepted the result.

Now Do you Know the Difference?





I believe some of these so called guests were paid. So no complains there. No one say you cant hire mercenaries to fight for you.

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lol you are complaining about guests when during one of the days you guys got at least 12 new guests..
Sir, your argument is invalid.


From the very beginning of the war, I was worrying about Z coming.
Twelve or 15, whatever, they are nothing compare to Z and other well renowned guest chainners.
I'm pointing out the rationale of Recruiting.



so 15 chainers does not overweight z_junior (or any other heavy hitter)? lol... You know nothing about this war system. Go to sleep.
And if you are complaining about heavy hitters here is a few things that I will point out.. (although I have no complaints about guests on either side in this war, but just since you brought it up)
You guys had Spectre and none of us could hit him for over a week into the war. Then you guys brought in Legend, who we also could not hit. So we got Z_junior. Fair enough? Then you guys got BB. Now if you are complaining about big hitters then you are being hypocritical. Once again, I am not complaining about your guests, but you have no room to bitch about it also. You got some, so we did also. Move on.

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Posted on Thu May 23, 2013 09:10:33
Well I haven't seen any post from MMCP that want to take this fight to the end the old way by fighting it fare and fare.

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