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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 13:26:24
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Oh war is over? . Congrats HT!


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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 14:14:05
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Oh war is over? . Congrats HT!


xD


Must be casue the leader is, as you said, so cool

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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 15:51:13
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What's the point of a war thread when it's just a stacked E surprise declare that lasted about a day?

Every single time this happens, The first page of the thread is actually talking about it when the war was going, Then the next 10 pages are just bitching, Excuses and "U just fukin wait 30 days" ect.

Not saying this thread is that to an exact, but it'l easily turn to it.


To be honest, I would not of created this thread if I knew it would of ended this quickly. I was unaware that leader and co were both offline from 39th at the time. I was expecting a fight back a little sooner, not as we hit 95%. From there it was pretty much impossible as we had maxed out war base with fillers. I can see where you are coming from though

As for this thread, we may as well keep it around as mentioned further up this page, 39th will be declaring on HT when the NAP is over with.

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Congrats HT...see you in (roughly) 30 days....tick tock



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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 18:41:48
By Voices [387969]
What's the point of a war thread when it's just a stacked E surprise declare that lasted about a day?

Every single time this happens, The first page of the thread is actually talking about it when the war was going, Then the next 10 pages are just bitching, Excuses and "U just fukin wait 30 days" ect.

Not saying this thread is that to an exact, but it'l easily turn to it.


exactly this

As long as stacking is allowed warring is utter crap. Just another of the countless poorly thought out warring updates that have slowly made warring virtually pointless.

Yeah warring 2.0 is coming soon, but the mind boggles in how many ways this will get screwed up. considering the brains trust that came up with 300 limits and stacking.


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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 22:40:53
By Voices [387969]
Excuses and "U just fukin wait 30 days" ect.


Sums up a lot of war threads brilliantly.

It's good to see HT up and warring again - they obviously haven't lost too much shine, even if they are stacking. Just doing what FTW did and doing it well!
Stacking gives a big advantage, but I would say that a fightback is possible even if caught unawares. As long as you can hold them off just long enough for their stacked E advantage to wear off, it's game on!
Seems to me that wars can be decent these days as long as both sides are aware of the war time. Most other terms aren't that necessary, although can make things a bit more fun at times.

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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 23:06:12
That where the problem was we had no leaders on to declare to even think of an early fightback .

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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 23:16:53
I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.

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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 23:30:11
There no excuse there just a pure fact I not the one to usual post on threads such as this but felt like.

Anyway less of that congrats HT on the quick work

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Posted on Thu May 02, 2013 23:47:47
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I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 02:53:57
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I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.


i have 39th tracked not very active at all average time offline is 15 hours plus

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 05:54:41
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I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.


I apologize if you did chain a bit, last time I saw it was like 91% and you guys had made 4 attacks.

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 07:31:14
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I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.


I apologize if you did chain a bit, last time I saw it was like 91% and you guys had made 4 attacks.


Spot on JJ.

I have records here, 4 attacks were made by 39th up until 91%. The next hits did not come until we were at 95% - this was when Charger came online and declared on 2 fillers! You made a total of 59 attacks in roughly an hour - which was far too low of a hit:minute ratio comparing to our 4 hits per minute, for you stand any chance of a comeback.

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 10:22:37
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By JimmyJames [581165]
I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.


I apologize if you did chain a bit, last time I saw it was like 91% and you guys had made 4 attacks.


Spot on JJ.

I have records here, 4 attacks were made by 39th up until 91%. The next hits did not come until we were at 95% - this was when Charger came online and declared on 2 fillers! You made a total of 59 attacks in roughly an hour - which was far too low of a hit:minute ratio comparing to our 4 hits per minute, for you stand any chance of a comeback.


Charger did not come online and declare on 2 fillers , don`t know where you got that idea from.



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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 14:19:35
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i have 39th tracked not very active at all average time offline is 15 hours plus


So who will give you money for living .. Real life need to work to live ... Tho...
If you are dependent , i am wrong .. Not so ease to spend time much on game

:|

>>>> 39th can`t win easily to other big faction nowadays, But when our members from MERC back .... ,
So wanna test with old members ??



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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 14:53:22
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i have 39th tracked not very active at all average time offline is 15 hours plus


So who will give you money for living .. Real life need to work to live ... Tho...
If you are dependent , i am wrong .. Not so ease to spend time much on game

:|

>>>> 39th can`t win easily to other big faction nowadays, But when our members from MERC back .... ,
So wanna test with old members ??



MERCS is the future bro

Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 16:03:39
By GrantAFC [1481902]
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By JimmyJames [581165]
By Billiken [1315845]
By JimmyJames [581165]
I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.


I apologize if you did chain a bit, last time I saw it was like 91% and you guys had made 4 attacks.


Spot on JJ.

I have records here, 4 attacks were made by 39th up until 91%. The next hits did not come until we were at 95% - this was when Charger came online and declared on 2 fillers! You made a total of 59 attacks in roughly an hour - which was far too low of a hit:minute ratio comparing to our 4 hits per minute, for you stand any chance of a comeback.


Charger did not come online and declare on 2 fillers , don`t know where you got that idea from.



Then it must of been your co-leader - i apologize.
Either way, I know you had fillers.



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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 16:42:53
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i have 39th tracked not very active at all average time offline is 15 hours plus


So who will give you money for living .. Real life need to work to live ... Tho...
If you are dependent , i am wrong .. Not so ease to spend time much on game

:|

>>>> 39th can`t win easily to other big faction nowadays, But when our members from MERC back .... ,
So wanna test with old members ??



Are you seriously trying to say that if you had the former members of 39th who now call Merc's home you would have won? You better realize that those people who were in 39th myself included are now in their longterm home here.

As for the warring out of the blue while stacked, it is ruining warring in general and pretty much has taken a LOT of the fun out of what used to be the best part of this damn game. It's not even really a war when the other faction has no leadership online to declare and your warbase keeps itself minimized by the auto ending of war. It's not like ages ago when your warbase was always full and ready to chain away on at a moments notice.

Seems to me that unless you get terms it is all likely that most wars will end up in a bitchfest as one side will not sway from the stand that THEY kicked your ass, weather you were online and capable of fighting back or not. Ahhh for the old days and some of the old warring systems. At least back then you didn't have to worry about a HOF faction starting a war with 50-80k in stacked E. ( not saying that was the case here but in general )

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 16:59:52
Well, didnt have internet for a day and look what I miss!

Anyway, regardless of the crappy war engine, I'm extremely glad to see HT back in action and hopefully we can negotiate some fun wars in the near future.

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 17:03:07
Why is this still even being discussed? HT won, congrats. I personally was out all evening, and got home at like 10pm went to bed at 10:30pm as I had an early start, at that point we had 1 filler faction (which had ~10 members) that we had got to declare on us as we didn't have a leader online and the chain counter was on 96%.

Yes we could have definitely made a better attempt to make a come back, but people who are saying 'we could have attempted to slow HT down until leaders came online' If we had hit HT more, they would have hit us back every time for a retal and I am almost certain the war would have lasted an even shorter time than it did. I would go as far as saying unless a faction can keep every member of another faction in hospital without morph time for them to make a hit it is IMPOSSIBLE to win a war without fillers. In my eyes, with the situation IMO impossible to come back from I popped a xanax and went to sleep.

Retaliations are massive in chaining and I feel like people who are saying 'you could have made an attempt with no fillers' are just conveniently forgetting about this to try and make 39th look worse. By all means go to war with another faction, but let them stack and don't declare on any filler factions and see how it goes... It would be an interesting experiment for sure.

p.s. i'm sure we will get our revenge at some point

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 17:09:26
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Well, didnt have internet for a day and look what I miss!

Anyway, regardless of the crappy war engine, I'm extremely glad to see HT back in action and hopefully we can negotiate some fun wars in the near future.


I am sure we would love a bash about with you guys - despite the expected outcome of you winning, we could give it a good go!

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Posted on Fri May 03, 2013 17:21:20
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I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


We chained them a bit, the war was mostly over but there is always a chance to save it and bounce back but with mid level guys like me hitting we just got retaled to fast to make a dent.


I apologize if you did chain a bit, last time I saw it was like 91% and you guys had made 4 attacks.


Spot on JJ.

I have records here, 4 attacks were made by 39th up until 91%. The next hits did not come until we were at 95% - this was when Charger came online and declared on 2 fillers! You made a total of 59 attacks in roughly an hour - which was far too low of a hit:minute ratio comparing to our 4 hits per minute, for you stand any chance of a comeback.


Charger did not come online and declare on 2 fillers , don`t know where you got that idea from.



Then it must of been your co-leader - i apologize.
Either way, I know you had fillers.



It was neither leader or co-leader both of these factions declared on us , one of them being ninja who declared when you were at 95% , that is when the next hits came.

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 08:26:36
By JimmyJames [581165]
I love the excuse that you had no leader on. You can still chain the faction that declared on you, at least get a 50 hit chain, but I'm sure you can do better since they have to morph to hit you. At the very least slow them down while you wait for your leader to come online.


Everyone has forgotten one thing, xanax cooldowns, It's easy to retal chain when your expecting the war. When your not, not so.

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 08:42:53
You got to use whatever advantages you got to beat someone that are normally better than you

Reasons why HT declared without giving 39th a notice :

39th got better overall stats than HT
I do think they are better chainers in 39th
39th got more members


Advantages by declaring like HT did :

Leader/CO leader was offline = no chance of running long chains, and being organisesd with after effects from Xanax and low Energy
- no filler factions
- 39th was probably bad organized at the time since they did not have a heads up on when they needed to be online.



- HT had 30 members that did 7 hits or less in this war -

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 08:47:33
ok ht is active again. grow a f*cking pair n declare on someone expecting it. be the faction you can be, not slackers ust using the steadfast

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 08:48:30
Max you guys don't need to explain yourselves this is not carebears online.

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 12:41:00
Been some boring wars lately man really boring, especially after PT jumped Mercs now this, we're talking some of the oldest and strongest factions in the game. A little mutual respect would go a long way to bringing this game back to some sort of fun medium but no we get this crap ughhh.

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 12:48:40
Not sure why everyone is sort of giving HT all this abuse. We purely wanted to see what we could produce and how good our chaining is right now. Give it time and I am sure termed wars will be sorted.

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 13:24:12
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Been some boring wars lately man really boring, especially after PT jumped Mercs now this, we're talking some of the oldest and strongest factions in the game. A little mutual respect would go a long way to bringing this game back to some sort of fun medium but no we get this crap ughhh.


We are "always" looking for termed wars. But when some declare on us without asking for a termed dont think that after we lose the war we will do nothing and accept terms. But if you think its bad, lets think who was the first faction doing rank up without termed (also taking 1st place that away...).

Lets think a little. (:

I am not going to discuss the sex of the angels. This is a war game if it has a away of beating another faction so easy, why shouldn't factions use it? (SA use it a lot of times, now that others use it... blablabla)

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 13:28:34
I think we all need to quit warring till Torn 2.0 arrives.

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Posted on Sat May 04, 2013 13:56:10
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I think we all need to quit warring till Torn 2.0 arrives.


Sometimes I agree with you...

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