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atentat
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 00:32:31
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i dont think this artificial intelligence they are seemingly trying with the nap "algorythm" will work out very well. torn is not google.
it seems the naps are pretty random.
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 00:38:58
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If Ched actually give a shit he wouldn't lock the threads in announcements.
OR he would be in this thread reading whats happening.
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Touch
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 00:44:58
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One of our wars we were going to win, ended up being a failure. After no hits for 2 days.
Couldn't even bigger factions, turn revive off then self hosp? Ending a potentially "lost" war? idk just the way i see it.
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atentat
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 01:10:40
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yeah what sucks too are travelling 1 and 2 man factions. too hard to beat now imo. why give them so much control?
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 06:57:55
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By Hobbie [443763]
Sorry, but unless information is released publicly - no staff or committee member is able to give details because we'd be fedded otherwise.
We can certainly ask for the details to be revealed but before then we can't say anything.
lolol as usual we're suppose to guess and play
enjoy
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 07:26:10
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By CompanyHiring [266775]
Did the committee's vote even include the NAP? |
No.
These were the proposed changes
http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=1&ID=15075089
This is the vote made public
http://www.torn.com/committee.php?step=view&ID=48
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PolarBear
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 08:34:56
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The war between Global Intell Center and DropBears is now over.
The war between KMA- Recruiting and DropBears is now over.
The war between Spontaneous Muggers' and DropBears is now over.
The war between Secret Service and DropBears is now over.
We manage To pull 2 100 chains a day.
SS was a rank war and only had like 10 people in it so we mainly focuses bonuses on them we got them to about 70% our way. We were just about to get ready to do another 100man chain and this happens. Its now f**king joke. Thanks Chedburn for screwing every fac hof and esp not hof small factions.
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CompanyHiring
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:20:46
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By RatedR [72498]
By --Slash-- [220873]
retarded to put in one word..honestly lacking in foresight
the worst is the retarded NAP bullshit which no one has cared to explain much
http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=3&ID=15108651
posted a question about 1 day or so ago not a single committee member replied on the shit thats going on |
I fully agree, and I would like to state that for the record, we (in the committee) were not informed on this NAP-thing, and from the discussion that is going on with the committee, a lot of us do not agree with this either.
This so called NAP-update is ridiculous.
By CompanyHiring [266775]
Did the committee's vote even include the NAP? |
No, it did not. |
What do you or other committee members think when Ched sneaks things in and puts the committee seal on it?
By Robb_Stark [1075937]
i wouldnt worry committee is like a side novelty your input is valued but at the end of the day ched dont really give a shit |
I agree. So he can say "well this is what I think should be added and I even asked other experienced players" but I think most are probably just voting yes so they do not get removed
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HT-Kjartmann
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 09:52:13
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Secondly anyone whonting a Peacefull faction now, can just throw 300 noobs into his warbase
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xlordx
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:24:06
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At least now it'll force people to actually hit the target faction, instead of making less than 500 total hits on target and winning a war.
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:50:39
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nice , now if you want to war a faction you have to fight almost every day , good update , That what wars are about , not taking 3 days off to train ,then pick on a weak faction ,,
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Shandra
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 14:11:24
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Once again,I log in this morning to find 2 more wars ended for us, 1 of them a ranking war that we devoted alot of time and e to.. I do not understand the criteria for deciding what wars will be terminated for us and which ones wont.we are doing at least 2 50 chains a day and use all of our targets.. ..
Does anyone know what they use to decide which wars to end?
Last Edited: Fri Jan 25, 2013 14:13:16
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KickRocks
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 14:13:31
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All I see this update doing is giving an advantage to bank factions and 1-3 person teams. The middle man gets ace'd and this doesn't improve the quality of warring, only gives those that don't want to war, but still want to be in a faction, an easy way out. For me, if it looks like I am going to lose a war, or don't want an opposing faction to garner any bonus respect from my faction, I'll just boot everyone when at 10% and travel for two days.
Seems counter productive to me
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Toad
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 14:41:29
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By PolarBear [78601]
Well i think that ched has just made the war system a bit worse with his changes and making it harder to have real wars.
Having the max war limit set to 300 for declaring and being declared on i see wont be working. In Big wars factions can pull easily 500 hits in a few hours but being only allowd 300 people in a warbase will only be able to pull off 3 100man chains.
The other update about faction wars napping and ending if attacking isnt active enough i see as another bad idea for smaller factions who arent strong chainers will just make it more difficult for them to chain, and wars ending un suspectingly i see as another inconvience as youll need to wait a whole day before being able to declare on any other faction.
The cap on energy however i dont mind that itll just make big hof wars start of alot slower then usual.
What do you think O-o
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The war between Global Intell Center and DropBears is now over.
The war between KMA- Recruiting and DropBears is now over.
The war between Spontaneous Muggers' and DropBears is now over.
The war between Secret Service and DropBears is now over.
We manage To pull 2 100 chains a day.
SS was a rank war and only had like 10 people in it so we mainly focuses bonuses on them we got them to about 70% our way. We were just about to get ready to do another 100man chain and this happens. Its now f**king joke. Thanks Chedburn for screwing every fac hof and esp not hof small factions.
Last hits we made were earlier this morning when we pulled a 100 man chain. |
Being a faction leader myself, i couldnt agree more. Ched has bent us all over and....well....you know 
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Anloko
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 15:05:47
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This is the worst update i have seen in tc!!!
(and i have almost 3000 days)
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Dimebag
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 15:25:53
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Yea we've had 5 wars end in the past two days (one with your faction as well). Seems like the algorithm needs a bit of work.
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 17:58:47
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come on remove this amazing algorithm .. this amazing amazing algorithm lolol
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-Clansdancer
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:40:34
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The algorithm for ending wars works like this, it takes in to account the faction with the lowest amount of members, and requires half that amount of hits per day. So if the lowest faction has 8 members, only 4 hits are required per 24 hours of war time.
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Cathead
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:51:04
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But if 50 were the number, then 25, right?
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:52:27
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By Cathead [1581564]
But if 50 were the number, then 25, right? |
Yes that is correct.
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:53:22
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By DaveO [887166]
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But if 50 were the number, then 25, right? |
Yes that is correct. |
That seems a little steep to me.
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:54:40
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By Cathead [1581564]
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By Cathead [1581564]
But if 50 were the number, then 25, right? |
Yes that is correct. |
That seems a little steep to me. |
It is by the smallest faction. So if your faction was smaller the number required would be half your members.
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Hobbie
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:55:21
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Yes. On each faction. Every day. I feel all but the most active of chainers will be stung by this.
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-Betelgeuse-
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:55:55
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I'm confused with what clansy said.
If faction A has 10 members and faction B has 20. Do the 5 hits have to be made on faction A to keep ALL wars going? or just for faction A and then you have to hit faction B 10 times to keep that war going as well?
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Cathead
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:55:59
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By DaveO [887166]
By Cathead [1581564]
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But if 50 were the number, then 25, right? |
Yes that is correct. |
That seems a little steep to me. |
It is by the smallest faction. So if your faction was smaller the number required would be half your members.
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Yeah, understood. So start wars on small factions is key here.
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Gorgonzola
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:56:50
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By Cathead [1581564]
By DaveO [887166]
By Cathead [1581564]
But if 50 were the number, then 25, right? |
Yes that is correct. |
That seems a little steep to me. |
A tad ridiculous to me. We try to declare on factions with larger member groups as a rule. That means we have to chain half their members every day or fail.
Take one day off chaining in the middle and lose all of your wars.
EDIT: On top of that you would also still have them in your warbase and be unable to go past the 300 limit.
2ND EDIT: You can no longer tactically beat a faction by outchaining them if they have members with stats you cannot beat.
Last Edited: Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:59:53
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-Clansdancer
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 18:58:16
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We are not against adjusting it just looking for some post that make sense instead of tantrums.
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ReyDuvall
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 19:01:14
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And we were looking for an update that made sense.
So I guess both sides are disappointed.
Last Edited: Fri Jan 25, 2013 19:02:03
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Gorgonzola
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 19:02:17
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By -Clansdancer [65306]
We are not against adjusting it just looking for some post that make sense instead of tantrums. |
No tantrum but this seems like a solution to a problem (factions filling their warbase to stay peaceful) that only arose because another problem was 'fixed'.
My opinion would be to unfix the fix and just implement a respect cap per 24hrs.
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-Clansdancer
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 19:02:26
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Well you can either state what you think would work best or post bullshit like that and get no where.
I'm cool either way I guess. I am happy to help you guys get what you want but I am not remotely interested in listening to the whingey post.
My Post was too ReyDuvall
Last Edited: Fri Jan 25, 2013 19:04:22
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