By Rory_Breaker [1007389]
yeah,blame those who declare...
we just declared on a coward faction which kicked over 20 members and the rest flying away or is in hosp/unreviveable.
i hope this war will not naped out.
from 35 members to 6. lol some people are very desperate for a win.. must not be seeing that green "Victory" heading too often
By Rory_Breaker [1007389]
yeah,blame those who declare...
we just declared on a coward faction which kicked over 20 members and the rest flying away or is in hosp/unreviveable.
i hope this war will not naped out.
from 35 members to 6. lol some people are very desperate for a win.. must not be seeing that green "Victory" heading too often
Oi girls. . . "There is a problem here, that would be your judgment on who and when to declare. This isnt a torn problem. Do a little bit of thinking next time.... Just a little"(Escalade, 2012)
Think you idiots. You seriously have no judgement. You couldn't judge that a relatively strong faction is going to bitch out of a war and kick 20 members. How could you not see that. How could you not see that your 600 attacks and 6k respect is not going to be rewarded with a win bonus?
By Rory_Breaker [1007389]
yeah,blame those who declare...
we just declared on a coward faction which kicked over 20 members and the rest flying away or is in hosp/unreviveable.
i hope this war will not naped out.
from 35 members to 6. lol some people are very desperate for a win.. must not be seeing that green "Victory" heading too often
Oi girls. . . "There is a problem here, that would be your judgment on who and when to declare. This isnt a torn problem. Do a little bit of thinking next time.... Just a little"(Escalade, 2012)
Think you idiots. You seriously have no judgement. You couldn't judge that a relatively strong faction is going to bitch out of a war and kick 20 members. How could you not see that. How could you not see that your 600 attacks and 6k respect is not going to be rewarded with a win bonus?
This AlGore'sRythm is a load of bollocks.
We're talking about 2 totally different situations here. The first guys declared on a faction who was already at war and constantly in the hosp by another faction.
TuS declared on the faction they are talking about as filler while moving up the rank ladder and they fought back. TuS couldnt help that, the other guy could.
Hopping mad, preparing for large HOF war then we lost another 2 wars due to inactivity for a day and these aweful aweful faction war changes = time to make some real change to these now - and we cannot redeclare on same factions due to the 300 limit and self imposed NAP 31 days ...are you kidding me!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Time for action !!!!! Strike Torn !!!! All Wars !!! and ALL DPs !! and ALL member warring...FIX THIS NOW
All that energy wasted, wasted for what, these changes are not acceptable at all - fix it now 500 limit and unlimited faction actions and time period.
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this is my current war list..you can see im in a very serious war with ravage and equalizer..now lets say im at 98% or something and about to win ravage..ravage can easily kick every single member and then the last guy goes to south africa and goes inactive
now..the war will go NAP..and the bonus also disappears..the hardwork and the money spent ..the hours spent in chaining..all disappear and the war just ends without us winning
I want some staff member to understand this..this is NOT right..and I am sure anyone with a bit of sense will get the point im trying to get across..its been raised a few times in this thread but until now no action has been taken on it
PALESTINE
Need members for my faction with 45nb natural..will provide 1 xanax a day and refills for 75k / point
Apart from the ridiculous updates,
people need to notice how exploitable this current system is..
(using a recent example):
Although I agree with the removal of the rule where people cannot be kicked until they've been in the system for 7 days; I believe that removing a cap completely is always a bad idea. (see results with previous stock/enhancers/etc systems). It should be reduced to 3 days but not completely reduced.
This war against WolfPack is completely ridiculous. They simply kick most of their members reducing to only about 5-6 members when they do not chain. Then they SED themselves, turn off revives, and stack energy until it is time to chain again. Once the time has come they simply accept the guests/members back into the faction and spam a few hits and rinse and repeat.
There needs to be a system implemented to prevent shit like this from being allowed/possible. Such as roster locks, and/or the 3 day anti-kick rule.
By iiNsane [1006280]
Apart from the ridiculous updates,
people need to notice how exploitable this current system is..
(using a recent example):
Although I agree with the removal of the rule where people cannot be kicked until they've been in the system for 7 days; I believe that removing a cap completely is always a bad idea. (see results with previous stock/enhancers/etc systems). It should be reduced to 3 days but not completely reduced.
This war against WolfPack is completely ridiculous. They simply kick most of their members reducing to only about 5-6 members when they do not chain. Then they SED themselves, turn off revives, and stack energy until it is time to chain again. Once the time has come they simply accept the guests/members back into the faction and spam a few hits and rinse and repeat.
There needs to be a system implemented to prevent shit like this from being allowed/possible. Such as roster locks, and/or the 3 day anti-kick rule.
3 day rule for jobs specials. 3 day rule for factions. Simple stuff.
By iiNsane [1006280]
Apart from the ridiculous updates,
people need to notice how exploitable this current system is..
(using a recent example):
Although I agree with the removal of the rule where people cannot be kicked until they've been in the system for 7 days; I believe that removing a cap completely is always a bad idea. (see results with previous stock/enhancers/etc systems). It should be reduced to 3 days but not completely reduced.
This war against WolfPack is completely ridiculous. They simply kick most of their members reducing to only about 5-6 members when they do not chain. Then they SED themselves, turn off revives, and stack energy until it is time to chain again. Once the time has come they simply accept the guests/members back into the faction and spam a few hits and rinse and repeat.
There needs to be a system implemented to prevent shit like this from being allowed/possible. Such as roster locks, and/or the 3 day anti-kick rule.
Use the tools your giving bro. The bonus is now going to be a big one, think where going to give that up? Think we where going to roll over?
I have nowt bad to say about tus, but if you thought we where just going to be a stepping stone for you to move up rank then guess again. I agree the system sucks, more so FOR SMALL FACTIONS, but our 40 members vs your 70 members isn't going to win us the war, thats 4+ chains a day more then us, what did you think where going to do?.
By iiNsane [1006280]
Apart from the ridiculous updates,
people need to notice how exploitable this current system is..
(using a recent example):
Although I agree with the removal of the rule where people cannot be kicked until they've been in the system for 7 days; I believe that removing a cap completely is always a bad idea. (see results with previous stock/enhancers/etc systems). It should be reduced to 3 days but not completely reduced.
This war against WolfPack is completely ridiculous. They simply kick most of their members reducing to only about 5-6 members when they do not chain. Then they SED themselves, turn off revives, and stack energy until it is time to chain again. Once the time has come they simply accept the guests/members back into the faction and spam a few hits and rinse and repeat.
There needs to be a system implemented to prevent shit like this from being allowed/possible. Such as roster locks, and/or the 3 day anti-kick rule.
Use the tools your giving bro. The bonus is now going to be a big one, think where going to give that up? Think we where going to roll over?
I have nowt bad to say about tus, but if you thought we where just going to be a stepping stone for you to move up rank then guess again. I agree the system sucks, more so FOR SMALL FACTIONS, but our 40 members vs your 70 members isn't going to win us the war, thats 4+ chains a day more then us, what did you think where going to do?.
War is never fair, suck it up buttercup.
lol we weren't even fighting back or trying to climb up. used you guys as filler for another war then went back into training. Only fought back because Tezwar mailed me semi-taunting me.
As for your complaint about 40 v 70 not being fair, then you are merely being hypocritical. How is 5 members in constant hosp (SED'd with revives turned off) any fair for us? And "exploiting" the application system by popping in, hitting, and leaving.
That's nothing but pussy-shit. If you guys wanted an actual war all you would have to do is mail me asking for a truce period where you guys could've recruited guests so we could have a proper war instead of Tezwar mailing me semi-taunting me to fight on. Like I said, the declaration wasn't even intended for a win or a real war. Was used for filler and wouldve ended automatically as we went back to training (with Ched's new shitty algorithm)
So if you are going to say 40 v 70 is unfair then rethink what dirty tactics you guys have been using and then get back to me.
edit:
also the bonus is nothing great or special. That can easily be gained in 1-2 days of chaining.. just sayin'
also, no point in arguing about this in here. I was simply pointing out a flaw in the system which I think needs to be fixed.
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By iiNsane [1006280]
Apart from the ridiculous updates,
people need to notice how exploitable this current system is..
(using a recent example):
Although I agree with the removal of the rule where people cannot be kicked until they've been in the system for 7 days; I believe that removing a cap completely is always a bad idea. (see results with previous stock/enhancers/etc systems). It should be reduced to 3 days but not completely reduced.
This war against WolfPack is completely ridiculous. They simply kick most of their members reducing to only about 5-6 members when they do not chain. Then they SED themselves, turn off revives, and stack energy until it is time to chain again. Once the time has come they simply accept the guests/members back into the faction and spam a few hits and rinse and repeat.
There needs to be a system implemented to prevent shit like this from being allowed/possible. Such as roster locks, and/or the 3 day anti-kick rule.
Use the tools your giving bro. The bonus is now going to be a big one, think where going to give that up? Think we where going to roll over?
I have nowt bad to say about tus, but if you thought we where just going to be a stepping stone for you to move up rank then guess again. I agree the system sucks, more so FOR SMALL FACTIONS, but our 40 members vs your 70 members isn't going to win us the war, thats 4+ chains a day more then us, what did you think where going to do?.
War is never fair, suck it up buttercup.
lol we weren't even fighting back or trying to climb up. used you guys as filler for another war then went back into training. Only fought back because Tezwar mailed me semi-taunting me.
As for your complaint about 40 v 70 not being fair, then you are merely being hypocritical. How is 5 members in constant hosp (SED'd with revives turned off) any fair for us? And "exploiting" the application system by popping in, hitting, and leaving.
That's nothing but pussy-shit. If you guys wanted an actual war all you would have to do is mail me asking for a truce period where you guys could've recruited guests so we could have a proper war instead of Tezwar mailing me semi-taunting me to fight on. Like I said, the declaration wasn't even intended for a win or a real war. Was used for filler and wouldve ended automatically as we went back to training (with Ched's new shitty algorithm)
So if you are going to say 40 v 70 is unfair then rethink what dirty tactics you guys have been using and then get back to me.
edit:
also the bonus is nothing great or special. That can easily be gained in 1-2 days of chaining.. just sayin'
also, no point in arguing about this in here. I was simply pointing out a flaw in the system which I think needs to be fixed.
Could you please state where I put 40 vs 70 members is unfair? What I said was 40 members vs 70 members the odds are stacked against us massively and for your bullshit that you where training that's utter shit it took you a day to get us from 75% back to 50/50. Like I said you though we'd roll over and be your steeping stone and where not.
And could you please direct me in the direction of 30 active chainners?
I simply came here to defend us as a team you came here to cry about how we are 'abusing a system' maybe we should be reported!
By iiNsane [1006280]
Apart from the ridiculous updates,
people need to notice how exploitable this current system is..
(using a recent example):
Although I agree with the removal of the rule where people cannot be kicked until they've been in the system for 7 days; I believe that removing a cap completely is always a bad idea. (see results with previous stock/enhancers/etc systems). It should be reduced to 3 days but not completely reduced.
This war against WolfPack is completely ridiculous. They simply kick most of their members reducing to only about 5-6 members when they do not chain. Then they SED themselves, turn off revives, and stack energy until it is time to chain again. Once the time has come they simply accept the guests/members back into the faction and spam a few hits and rinse and repeat.
There needs to be a system implemented to prevent shit like this from being allowed/possible. Such as roster locks, and/or the 3 day anti-kick rule.
Use the tools your giving bro. The bonus is now going to be a big one, think where going to give that up? Think we where going to roll over?
I have nowt bad to say about tus, but if you thought we where just going to be a stepping stone for you to move up rank then guess again. I agree the system sucks, more so FOR SMALL FACTIONS, but our 40 members vs your 70 members isn't going to win us the war, thats 4+ chains a day more then us, what did you think where going to do?.
War is never fair, suck it up buttercup.
lol we weren't even fighting back or trying to climb up. used you guys as filler for another war then went back into training. Only fought back because Tezwar mailed me semi-taunting me.
As for your complaint about 40 v 70 not being fair, then you are merely being hypocritical. How is 5 members in constant hosp (SED'd with revives turned off) any fair for us? And "exploiting" the application system by popping in, hitting, and leaving.
That's nothing but pussy-shit. If you guys wanted an actual war all you would have to do is mail me asking for a truce period where you guys could've recruited guests so we could have a proper war instead of Tezwar mailing me semi-taunting me to fight on. Like I said, the declaration wasn't even intended for a win or a real war. Was used for filler and wouldve ended automatically as we went back to training (with Ched's new shitty algorithm)
So if you are going to say 40 v 70 is unfair then rethink what dirty tactics you guys have been using and then get back to me.
edit:
also the bonus is nothing great or special. That can easily be gained in 1-2 days of chaining.. just sayin'
also, no point in arguing about this in here. I was simply pointing out a flaw in the system which I think needs to be fixed.
Could you please state where I put 40 vs 70 members is unfair? What I said was 40 members vs 70 members the odds are stacked against us massively and for your bullshit that you where training that's utter shit it took you a day to get us from 75% back to 50/50. Like I said you though we'd roll over and be your steeping stone and where not.
And could you please direct me in the direction of 30 active chainners?
I simply came here to defend us as a team you came here to cry about how we are 'abusing a system' maybe we should be reported!
Like I said before, suck it up buttercup.
Well you are stating that "war is unfair" so it is implied that 30v70 was unfair hence the reasoning to use those lowblow tactics. And yes, we were going back to training or else we wouldn't be at 29% against you guys when we started fighting back. Want to see the mail I was sent that urged me to fight back? I'd happily paste it although I deem it unnecessary..
And no where am I "crying" about you guys abusing the system. I'm just pointing out the flaws with this war/faction system. Just because I think they are cheap tactics doesn't mean I'm "crying" about them. Get back to me when you guys want to have a real war and not act like pussies with that "leave, stack, join, hit, leave" bullshit.
True enough, so don't kick your kids and make do with what you have..
Can't win the war? suck it up.. as unfair as a war goes, it doesn't need you to tuck you balls between your legs to win..
You sure you're a wolf?
some kinda female cat i suppose..
so the bigger faction declares on the smaller one as filler, which in itself means you knew you could take them easily.
rarely do filler factions complain about being filler.
so TuS, you are now filler for them to play their game the way they want to, like they were to you.
I don't think you, as the declaring faction who entered this without terms (did you ask them to be filler?) can speak about them doing anything wrong.
complain about the system, sure, but not about them. they sucked it up AND are doing what it takes to win. meh.
I could not have said that any better my self.. Well said!!
xD think I found the TUS and WP bitching thread...
I kinda admire the tactics, but at the same time wouldnt ever kick 90% of my members, something is just not right with that
It was a voluntary thing.. Everyone was asked first before decisions were made.. EVERYONE thought it was a great idea.. People call it exploiting the system we call it good strategy. Like it or not its the way it is..
so,, what happens if your faction does the minimum hits required on a faction for that 24 hour period - you all logout having finished chaining for the day and head to bed (i know, i know - unheard of with some players) ... Meanwhile...the target faction decide to gather their friends from Faction B, to join them and thus they jump from 10 members to 30 members. Does the war suddenly end? or would it be 24 hours from when the extra members joined?
is this another loop in the system? instead of being a slut faction - be a faction of 50 who get money to join other factions for a few hours in order to sabotage wars... ? Especially with the 7 day period where you can't leave a faction being reduced to 0.
We have wars dropping off the list even though we are actively doing attacks on them. The coding needs revised to allow wars to continue if attacks are happening. Beyond that I am ok with it all. It gets dead factions that cannot be attacked off the list...Dan
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