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Myhedin
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| Thread created on Sun Sep 09, 2012 19:44:21 Last replied to on Wed May 08, 2013 16:26:03
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Here's the Top 20:

Click here for a Google Spreadsheet with all factions (that I know of) above 300k respect
Any errors or omissions, post here, or mail me
Last Edited: Wed May 01, 2013 06:53:59
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Black_Viper
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| Posted on Sun Sep 09, 2012 20:06:36
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nice chart r+
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Subah
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| Posted on Sun Sep 09, 2012 21:47:45
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IBB and tus are zooming through respect
rated + for the next big forum thread I'll be waiting for every month
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Psych-
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| Posted on Sun Sep 09, 2012 23:35:15
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So IBB is gonna be #1 respect-wise before getting into the top 500 ranks?
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JDEwing24
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 02:49:15
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IBB really gained 200k respect in a month?
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Hypocritical
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 03:12:05
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By JDEwing24 [282048]
IBB really gained 200k respect in a month? |
50K a week in this system would be pretty easy, especially since they are just farming respect and every war is ranked
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Leboem
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 03:38:03
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Wow.. thats rly madness.. more than 200k -.- And i thougt we (FTW) made some crazy much respect that month 
And thx for continung that nice list Atleast now i can understand JJ why he is kinda pissed 
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Subah
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 03:42:05
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By Hypocritical [1280905]
By JDEwing24 [282048]
IBB really gained 200k respect in a month? |
50K a week in this system would be pretty easy, especially since they are just farming respect and every war is ranked |
I would say, easier said than done... that has to be 12+ 100 chains a day and not a lot of faction can accomplish that easily without stacking.. sure the wars maybe easy but almost every member attacking non stop without training for months needs dedication.. sure it may be easy as some players claim, but how many factions actually do that?
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Robb_Stark
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:23:03
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best thing about IBB is they pay for the attacks so at any given time when these weak players are no longer needed bam gone
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iiNsane
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:23:30
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I'm sure most hof factions would've done mass ranked wars given the chance as well. They just don't really have much room to move anymore.
And what is wrong with going up the ranked list? People are complaining about "farming respect" from ranked wars... yet they want more active factions up in hof. So factions shouldnt do any ranked wars and just sit at their current rank?
Blame the system not the factions.
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Hypocritical
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:25:16
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By Subah [1465084]
By Hypocritical [1280905]
By JDEwing24 [282048]
IBB really gained 200k respect in a month? |
50K a week in this system would be pretty easy, especially since they are just farming respect and every war is ranked |
I would say, easier said than done... that has to be 12+ 100 chains a day and not a lot of faction can accomplish that easily without stacking.. sure the wars maybe easy but almost every member attacking non stop without training for months needs dedication.. sure it may be easy as some players claim, but how many factions actually do that? |
I'd give it 8 chains maximum(not including win bonuses as the factions they declare on rarely fight back so they must be tiny) for a 88 man faction that's around 10 hits a day per member, it's also hard for most factions to do that as they don't have the luxury of being rank 500 with their member base
and iiNsane surely if you wanted more active hof factions they would try and move up the ranks quicker?, also not complaining, just saying it isn't all that impressive
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iiNsane
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:28:35
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Yea but the leader's job is to do what is best for the team, no?
If the team benefits more by going up the ranks one by one then it's obviously the better option.
Gotta play the system and take advantage of it. It's the admins' duties to change it if it doesn't work, not the player's duty to make up imaginary rules and play by them.
And yes it's not quite impressive. But the objective is not to impress others but to upgrade specials and improve as a faction.
If you want to impress then have some serious wars and show others what you got.
edit: on another note, I personally wouldn't pay others to chain for us and I don't think anyone else should. Do what you can do with your actual loyal members and build upon what you have. Paying guests/members doesn't produce loyalty.
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Unl33Li3val3L3
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 04:42:12
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Gogo IBB!!
Well, don't be jelly if you can't do it... You know you will if you are in our place...
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Subah
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 05:10:30
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By Robb_Stark [1075937]
best thing about IBB is they pay for the attacks so at any given time when these weak players are no longer needed bam gone |
I don't know where you got that information from, but you are wrong informed.
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Robb_Stark
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 07:27:38
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By Subah [1465084]
By Robb_Stark [1075937]
best thing about IBB is they pay for the attacks so at any given time when these weak players are no longer needed bam gone |
I don't know where you got that information from, but you are wrong informed. |
the front page of the newspaper get paid 500k for 6 attacks daily
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Mike_Litoris
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 07:33:15
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By Robb_Stark [1075937]
best thing about IBB is they pay for the attacks so at any given time when these weak players are no longer needed bam gone |
IBB does not pay for attacks. It was 500k stat requirement with 6 attacks per day requirement, not 500k for 6 attacks. Learn to read.
Btw this respect gain is from 3 weeks of the last month, so the system is clearly broken.
Last Edited: Mon Sep 10, 2012 07:37:42
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Shinnster
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:42:57
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By Leboem [1073290]
And thx for continung that nice list Atleast now i can understand JJ why he is kinda pissed  |
^this! 2 noob factions in the top 20 that have no right being there. Got to love the system!
Good work for keeping it updated though Myhedin
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g_ho
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:55:00
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By iiNsane [1006280]
People are complaining about "farming respect" from ranked wars... yet they want more active factions up in hof. |
but they are nowhere near the hof, so those are actually completely separate facts. mutually exclusive.
yes, more active hof factions would be awesome. If I see one more thread of "we want a war" with a reply "you know where the declare button is" with so little actual activity after all that posturing, my eyes may roll back into me head. what's the point of just declaring in the hof if you cannot do it for rank and there's no fight back? just hit declare is the worst retort ever. That's why, to save ourselves from hearing it again, we're just declaring every month. Eff all the posturing, git 'er dun. 
yes, watching them farm respect kinda sucks. while us just declaring will keep us from getting bored, and liven up irc, it will never do us the kind of good the massive ranked war will, both sides fighting or even just the one side like in all IBBs wars. it's really no different than the abuse of dex that went on for ages. anyone doing it felt justified - it was part of the game as it was built at that time - those who didn't abuse watched in different levels of anger and jealousy. Honestly, I cannot believe there aren't 100 factions below 500 rank trying it.
yes, I wish we had that same advantage of growth, or it was taken away in general, or somehow the playing field was leveled. same way I felt about the dex bug. but at least with the dex, basically anyone could do it. our faction literally can't take advantage of the manipulation without just leaving it and buying another faction and starting all over.
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Myhedin
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 15:19:02
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Rockers would have made enough respect for steadfast X too if this update would happen before we started warring. Too bad that it happened when we were near to end the wars
Anyway I don't like this system, cause factions are gaining respect more easily .
I'll try to update it every month on the 1st of each month.
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 18:54:46
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By Leboem [1073290]
Wow.. thats rly madness.. more than 200k -.- And i thougt we (FTW) made some crazy much respect that month 
And thx for continung that nice list Atleast now i can understand JJ why he is kinda pissed  |
Pissed is a strong word...
I'm not upset at all, just seems kinda pointless to keep doing it. Nor do I blame them for doing it, hell if I were in their shoes, I'd declare a bunch of ranked wars too (although I'd have an actual war as well).
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Voices
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 19:02:53
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Wow, And I thought I had an ok month, Then to see IBB's numbers.
Well done to them I suppose, And to all those who've chained up massive amounts.
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Gzzz
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 19:15:34
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System is broke. Someone ought to fix it. I give it 2 years.
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iiNsane
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 19:49:01
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By g_ho [1261819]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People are complaining about "farming respect" from ranked wars... yet they want more active factions up in hof. |
but they are nowhere near the hof, so those are actually completely separate facts. mutually exclusive. |
Well firstly to get to hof there needs to be ranked wars. So no they aren't completely separate facts.
Sure you can jump 25 ranks at a time instead of 1... But that wouldn't be a smart decision if you want the best for your faction.
Some don't give a shit about being in hof and just want to give their faction the best they could. Wars between non-hof and hof factions can still occur if agreed upon.
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Touch
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 20:06:00
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IBB and TuS are chaining machines!
With a couple months of chaining like that, you could retire with some good specials for a long time....
Or sell the faction for massive profit and start again. and again. and again.
ohh the possibilities with the current system
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g_ho
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 20:26:42
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By iiNsane [1006280]
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By iiNsane [1006280]
People are complaining about "farming respect" from ranked wars... yet they want more active factions up in hof. |
but they are nowhere near the hof, so those are actually completely separate facts. mutually exclusive. |
Well firstly to get to hof there needs to be ranked wars. So no they aren't completely separate facts.
Sure you can jump 25 ranks at a time instead of 1... But that wouldn't be a smart decision if you want the best for your faction.
Some don't give a shit about being in hof and just want to give their faction the best they could. Wars between non-hof and hof factions can still occur if agreed upon. |
Wars between hof and non hof can happen even if not agreed upon, we can declare on anyone anytime, as we do for filler constantly, but they aren't as beneficial as rank wars. All I'm saying is that ppl in the hof griping we want more activity up here doesn't mean we can't equally gripe about/envy the respect farming that's going on. they are not dependent on each other at all. Besides, it is Torn, we can find a way to bitch about anything 
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iiNsane
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 20:43:20
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Yes obviously factions can declare on anyone...
My point was obviously being a REAL war where both sides fight back and not about fillers.
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g_ho
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 21:05:59
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my point was obviously that these real wars you speak of are, as I stated, not as beneficial. Unless you're declaring for rank, the gains aren't as strong. even with both sides fighting back, while they're better, they're not the same as having a warbase of 300 people all ranked wars. but that wasn't my point anyway. my point was that saying hof activity and faction farming at rank 500 are not tied together. not trying to argue about the merits of REAL wars, as you put it, which are few and far between nowadays in the hof.
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 21:36:10
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By Psych- [918939]
So IBB is gonna be #1 respect-wise before getting into the top 500 ranks?
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Well you have to understand they're trying to max out all the upgrades.
So of course they're gonna be busy farming respect.
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DEA7TH
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| Posted on Mon Sep 10, 2012 22:12:12
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I'm not saying I disagree with you that the system is unfair (I won't comment that).
But we've had a war that reached 10-11k respect earned for each faction just for a few days, and they weren't even fighting back too much. At the same time, we had another war that reached 5-6k. The bonus respect from claiming victory was like 12-15k for first and 5-6k for second. None of them were rank wars. I'm pretty sure you can gain quite a lot of respect with warring against chaining factions that hit back.
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Subah
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| Posted on Tue Sep 11, 2012 04:02:26
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Haters gonna hate.
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Hyena
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| Posted on Tue Sep 11, 2012 04:27:09
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If the friends choose a game plan together as a whole does that make it a wrong decision? does jfk main moving to 2.0 when declared on make them cowards or bamf and raov merging mean theyre weak? its all about your personal choice! troll me all you want on this comment i will not edit it so you will always see my initial response as i speak what i have to say and regret nothing!
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