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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 22:23:04
Someone hit with their M16 A2 Rifle in the head for 13598486 damage

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 22:25:26
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I think it is also important to realize that DA have been hitting us and vice versa... although as with your case (where a majority of the attacks are from us EVO, a majority of the attacks on us are from you.)


There's no fuss whatsoever. Just pointing out the obvious. If after some 6000 attacks made by Evo and DA in this war since it started, not a single bonus went on each others faction you can hardly call it warring. They're no different than say Thuglife you keep as fillers in your warbase (and the same goes for them).

Its all good tho, like I said everyone is free to interpret terms as they seem fit.


I see, so we're going by the assumption that a war (or serious one?) is that were bonuses MUST be done on them? or perhaps a number for them to act as a threshold?

Nonetheless, it like you said is a moot point. I think it's been made clear here and everywhere that our main targets are JFK, due to the sheer competition that I am seeing. We've all had a ton of fun so far, no real reason to continue bringing up this hypothetical faction team up >.>

More importantly!!

This war has been amazing... I also did get to share some awesome mails with a couple of great guys... and rubbed it in Jinxy's face that ONE amazing attack (tried repeating it, but failed )

I still stand by my comment, capp is one hell of a beast... guy is a crazy chainer and dam lucky... he's won a majority of attacks on me!

Edit: I can't type for shit at 9 am >.>

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 22:32:28
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I see, so we're going by the assumption that a war (or serious one?) is that were bonuses MUST be done on them? or perhaps a number for them to act as a threshold?


Yeah, you'd expect outta 3000+ hits both factions have made at least 1 bonus would stray on the other faction even by accident. If they were actually warring.

But maybe I have a wrong perception of what warring is. Im old and senile so ignore me...



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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 22:42:07
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I see, so we're going by the assumption that a war (or serious one?) is that were bonuses MUST be done on them? or perhaps a number for them to act as a threshold?


Yeah, you'd expect outta 3000+ hits both factions have made at least 1 bonus would stray on the other faction even by accident. If they were actually warring.

But maybe I have a wrong perception of what warring is. Im old and senile so ignore me...



No, no, you could be completely right here... ofc the doesn't change the ending though, we will need to end the war with DA and that will probably need chain bonuses on them so yes I personally consider the war we have with them just as serious as your war. Although, like I said earlier we are trying to take you down first be WE (Evo) consider you rightly so a huge risk, we might lose, we might win... but one thing is for sure and has been proven so far... it's been crazy fun.

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 22:59:15
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(dont worry, we dont plan on losing anything).





I guess people will stop sleeping now ^^

Also its nice to be part of the war aswell, helping me get my med merit

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:00:33
6,078 respect

6,463 respect
JFK control : 42%


estructive Anomaly control : 58%
1,169 attacks

282 attacks


The fact that DA has done less then 300 attacks, gained 6000 respect so far and is winning a war. Compared to 1100 attacks for 6000 respect and losing the war....

Something seems very wrong with that.

This war system sucks ass....do minimum hits and win a war....yeah thats war.

A++ Ched


Back to the hospital for me, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!





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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:04:42
Whoever wins those wars, I think one thing is clear: JFK is still the strongest faction in Torn. Statwise and chaining wise. Being able to hold off 2 of the strongest chaining factions even though DA and Evo are putting their entire effort (and chaining bonus) on JFK, yet JFK is only 400-500 respect points behind in each war.

I know chaining can be very stressful (and FUN ofc), but I hope this won't end into mutual accusations or complaints.... (aka bitchfest)

It's been fun watching the war from the outside Keep the good spirit up!

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:06:51
I dunno.. We've made way more than that number of hits on other factions, but the bonuses have ALMOST all been on JFK.. So even though it's a flawed warring system, it's about knowing how it works, and using it to your advantage.

I agree, it would be nice if maybe a new bonus came in at 250 and 1000 just to spice things up.

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:08:02
I would have thought everyone had gotten a pretty good idea on how the war system works nowadays via the big termed war a few months ago.

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:14:25
Don't get me wrong, I know they know what they are doing.. It's just that we have more people who are playing their part in the bigger picture. The bigger picture isn't to hosp them all 24/7, it's to win.. To win, you have to get respect against them, and to do that you have to limit your exposure for retals and get as many hits in as bonuses as possible on the target which you feel is the greatest threat at the moment.

JFK is doing that exactly, they are having to split their bonuses between DA and EVO, in the process they are slowly giving up ground.

There is no doubt JFK is abolutely worthy of the #1 slot. If someone takes it, it won't be held for long.



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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:15:28
I wasn't trying to insult anyone either. It just seems like a lot of the same comments are being rehashed from that war.

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:15:56
NawtyAli attacked you and lost. [View]

love it when I beat people that are miles stronger then me cause they have low hp

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:28:25
edit- meh

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Posted on Mon May 07, 2012 23:34:26
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I dunno.. We've made way more than that number of hits on other factions, but the bonuses have ALMOST all been on JFK.. So even though it's a flawed warring system, it's about knowing how it works, and using it to your advantage.


We all know how it works but that doesn't make it right. Its not just flawed, this system is ridiculous. Still, I'm not complaining. It's a real challenge this war and I'm having lots of fun. Behind or not, it ain't over till the fat lady sings.





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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:07:53
If griping about it over and over and over isn't complaining, I dont know what is. This isn't like, the very first war in torn history that has been fought where bonuses were a factor. They didn't just change the system this weekend.

I'm all for a fun war, but seriously, constantly suggesting we change the title to 2 vs 1 and saying that a victory in a 3 way should hardly count if its not a 1 vs 1 war, its really putting a damper on the fun, at least so far as the forums go.

I want to win the war, not prolong it to make someone else's bonus bigger.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:20:41
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NawtyAli attacked you and lost. [View]

love it when I beat people that are miles stronger then me cause they have low hp


That was a freak loss attacking on 1hp, I did come back again and hit you though still when I only had 1hp You got a lucky hit is all

[09:10:52] <&Ali> You continue to beat t0ffa on the ground.
[09:10:52] <&Ali> When his face is smashed in you decide he has had enough and jog home.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:22:49
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We're all just hoping that ched gets to read about how ridiculous and broken his war system is for HOF factions. Hoping that perhaps he might start caring about the competitive level of his game. Probably not though.


It's not "broken" it's working the way Ched had intended for it to work. I believe you're just getting frustrated you are behind in the war. This system is better than the previous warring systems because a smart faction > brute strength faction.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:24:28
War is War terms were set. DA and EVO are not partnered up. Yes we are aiming for JFK they are the harder competition for us (no offense to DA). To complain about ANYTHING that is not part of terms is silly in my opinion. If we were not supposed to put all our bonus on JFK then that should have been decided in terms but it was not. Come on guys lets get back to having fun and hosping each other and less bitchfesting as its starting to hijack the thread. The war system is flawed we all know that. We do the best we can with what we have.

Now to get back on topic I have had a blast this war its been absolutely amazing. All three sides have fought hard. My hats are off to JFK I have known a lot of you for a long time and am very impressed with how hard and strong you guys chain when your in your prime time of chaining. I am lucky to get two hits and fly to dodge retals. Also hats off to DA as well They took a termed war with two factions of similar size and chaining strength with a stat disadvantage and are still managing to hold tough.

Great job to all involved! And one final thing


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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:27:37
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We're all just hoping that ched gets to read about how ridiculous and broken his war system is for HOF factions. Hoping that perhaps he might start caring about the competitive level of his game. Probably not though.


It's not "broken" it's working the way Ched had intended for it to work. I believe you're just getting frustrated you are behind in the war. This system is better than the previous warring systems because a smart faction > brute strength faction.


The war systems in place have sucked ever since we took, what was it, 80k respect off of 39th? If the only possible way to get an enjoyable HOF war is to create terms and handicaps, then that is broken on the competitive level, and not what ched had intended. Thanks for posting Rowdy, your trolling is top notch.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:32:00
Although the war system needs changing, I do like the fact that it allows factions to compete without an overemphasis on stats. No point complaining about the system, weve all been here long enough to know how it works.

Secondly, I see no problem with both factions going for JFK, they are the biggest threat, and a win would mean a number one spot.

Anyway more importantly, it looks like its been fun so far, will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:34:32
OK....let me get this straight..JFK is complaining about being teamed up on?

JFK has been amazing allies and friendly with RAOV/BAMF and I would even say EVO...

I'm gonna let this go but I do wanna stat that most of DA and EVO cant hit 50% of JFK no matter what weapon restrictions are placed on them. Come on guys...is simple and we all know this..if your in 1st place your always the top target. In your war with PT/39th you guys know that you where the number 1 targets and you still beat the living shit out of them.

I'm having a great time in this war and I know most of JFK is also...

We have made major f**k up with people hitting bonuses on other then JFK and we have let you guys really come back quick...lets make this a fun war. No bitching and sure as shit no mud slinging...I know I personally consider many JFK members friends and I know EVO has strong ties with DA.

I expect zero mud slinging from any sides..lets just keep having fun..I'm sure JFK doesnt expect to lose this war as we all know the chaining of JFK is just plain sickening...we are just trying to show a strong outing and I think we are just having a great time. Lets hope this goes down as a good long memorable war for all.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:37:22
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[b]War is War terms were set. DA and EVO are not partnered up. Yes we are aiming for JFK they are the harder competition for us (no offense to DA). To complain about ANYTHING that is not part of terms is silly in my opinion. If we were not supposed to put all our bonus on JFK then that should have been decided in terms but it was not.


Yes, like I said every faction is allowed to interpret terms as they seem fit and that covers who will they put bonuses on too.

Speaking of bonuses I want to thank Evo in advance for a nice bonus they'll give us in the end. Much appreciated guys.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:41:42
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OK....let me get this straight..JFK is complaining about being teamed up on?

JFK has been amazing allies and friendly with RAOV/BAMF and I would even say EVO...

I'm gonna let this go but I do wanna stat that most of DA and EVO cant hit 50% of JFK no matter what weapon restrictions are placed on them. Come on guys...is simple and we all know this..if your in 1st place your always the top target. In your war with PT/39th you guys know that you where the number 1 targets and you still beat the living shit out of them.

I'm having a great time in this war and I know most of JFK is also...

We have made major f**k up with people hitting bonuses on other then JFK and we have let you guys really come back quick...lets make this a fun war. No bitching and sure as shit no mud slinging...I know I personally consider many JFK members friends and I know EVO has strong ties with DA.

I expect zero mud slinging from any sides..lets just keep having fun..I'm sure JFK doesnt expect to lose this war as we all know the chaining of JFK is just plain sickening...we are just trying to show a strong outing and I think we are just having a great time. Lets hope this goes down as a good long memorable war for all.


i aint complaining about shit, im having fun lol
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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:42:38
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[b]War is War terms were set. DA and EVO are not partnered up. Yes we are aiming for JFK they are the harder competition for us (no offense to DA). To complain about ANYTHING that is not part of terms is silly in my opinion. If we were not supposed to put all our bonus on JFK then that should have been decided in terms but it was not.


Yes, like I said every faction is allowed to interpret terms as they seem fit and that covers who will they put bonuses on too.

Speaking of bonuses I want to thank Evo in advance for a nice bonus they'll give us in the end. Much appreciated guys.

;)



Z I don't see how anything is interpreted. Where in terms does it state we cannot put our bonus where we want? Honestly i really don't know why we are having this discussion. This is supposed to be fun. And since you clearly already believe you will win why would you publicly complain? We have been friends for a long time so i don't see a need to get into a back and forth but seriously its a game guys lets ALL have fun!


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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:45:18
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OK....let me get this straight..JFK is complaining about being teamed up on?

JFK has been amazing allies and friendly with RAOV/BAMF and I would even say EVO...

I'm gonna let this go but I do wanna stat that most of DA and EVO cant hit 50% of JFK no matter what weapon restrictions are placed on them. Come on guys...is simple and we all know this..if your in 1st place your always the top target. In your war with PT/39th you guys know that you where the number 1 targets and you still beat the living shit out of them.

I'm having a great time in this war and I know most of JFK is also...

We have made major f**k up with people hitting bonuses on other then JFK and we have let you guys really come back quick...lets make this a fun war. No bitching and sure as shit no mud slinging...I know I personally consider many JFK members friends and I know EVO has strong ties with DA.

I expect zero mud slinging from any sides..lets just keep having fun..I'm sure JFK doesnt expect to lose this war as we all know the chaining of JFK is just plain sickening...we are just trying to show a strong outing and I think we are just having a great time. Lets hope this goes down as a good long memorable war for all.


i aint complaining about shit, im having fun lol
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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:55:20
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We're all just hoping that ched gets to read about how ridiculous and broken his war system is for HOF factions. Hoping that perhaps he might start caring about the competitive level of his game. Probably not though.


Yeah change the system back to something where JFK can't be beaten

I can swallow the (not Deft) "nobody will war us" whining iv heard but cant take that whining when its followed up with "somebody warred us and its too close so the system is broken" whining

The system indeed needs to be changed but unless Im mistaken the system was not changed over the last couple days was it? What I find really funny is I would still be surprised if JFK even lose, and if they dont the whining will be even more epic

As long as I can remember JFK have been asking for a challenge and now that they have it things arent fair? A cpl days of losing and people start to panic? Welcome to warring in TC in a faction that isnt JFK, thats how it is in every faction iv been in but you guys never lose so havent experienced it in awhile. Now turn it around and show why you have been #1 since as long as I can remember instead of crying about a war that is half over

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 00:57:36
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As long as I can remember JFK have been asking for a challenge and now that they have it things arent fair? A cpl days of losing and people start to panic?


People start to panic? Lol, donno what you're on .. but please share some.

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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 01:04:59
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We're all just hoping that ched gets to read about how ridiculous and broken his war system is for HOF factions. Hoping that perhaps he might start caring about the competitive level of his game. Probably not though.


It's not "broken" it's working the way Ched had intended for it to work. I believe you're just getting frustrated you are behind in the war. This system is better than the previous warring systems because a smart faction > brute strength faction.


The war systems in place have sucked ever since we took, what was it, 80k respect off of 39th? If the only possible way to get an enjoyable HOF war is to create terms and handicaps, then that is broken on the competitive level, and not what ched had intended. Thanks for posting Rowdy, your trolling is top notch.


Trolling? I'd like to know the definition of that word since it gets thrown around so loosely just because someone disagrees with you in a public forum.

Stop contradiction yourself by complaining about the warring system when you knew full well how it worked before the termed war. It's funny you call something "broke" merely because you are behind. Im not saying its a good system by any means, just saying it is working the way ched wanted it to.




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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 01:05:26
Perhaps panic wasnt the best word, maybe becoming slightly irritable and start making excuses would be a better way to describe it. If you scan back a cpl pages you will see JFK members already discrediting DA or Evo's win before the war was over, heck another member started talking about the rematch



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Posted on Tue May 08, 2012 01:15:04
I don't even know who's winning which war right now. Guess I should use irc and faction pages

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