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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 00:29:18
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I actually agree (somewhat) with Hogs, because declaring without setting the war up first gives a big advantage to the attacker. I'll refrain from commenting on the "weak" comments etc, everyone knows the outcome could've been quite different if FTW declared first. Just the way the engine is.

Just my 2 cents - this engine wont last for a long time and the image we project will, so please try and have some class. Anyway, here's hoping we lighten up the thread...

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Dude that chick is creepy looking. Its like she sees in to my soul.

Congrats 2.0 on the rank jump.



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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 00:41:38
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I actually agree (somewhat) with Hogs, because declaring without setting the war up first gives a big advantage to the attacker. I'll refrain from commenting on the "weak" comments etc, everyone knows the outcome could've been quite different if FTW declared first. Just the way the engine is.

Just my 2 cents - this engine wont last for a long time and the image we project will, so please try and have some class. Anyway, here's hoping we lighten up the thread...

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I agree, its just the way the system works. Nothing wrong with you guys hitting us unannounced, we have done it in the bast as stated several times. Of course we were reaching higher then we had reason to and half expected to lose each time we did. If you enjoyed the short battle today then I am happy for you. Not my cup of tea but to each their own.



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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 01:06:48
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Just a reminder since this is 2.0's monthly mayhem thread, we are always looking for wars!



Should be "...since this is JFKs & 2.0's monthly mayhem thread..." lol sry couldnt help myself. To end this debate on my behalf. I dont care if you bring guys from JFK or any other faction, how many they are, when they join , what they eat & if you are friends etc. etc. I will enjoy the war either way. 2.0 good performance during the war, alot worse after the war from some parts. Thought you were cool and mannered guys after our last war, not so much now. Laters

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 01:46:07
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Just a reminder since this is 2.0's monthly mayhem thread, we are always looking for wars!



Should be "...since this is JFKs & 2.0's monthly mayhem thread..." lol sry couldnt help myself. To end this debate on my behalf. I dont care if you bring guys from JFK or any other faction, how many they are, when they join , what they eat & if you are friends etc. etc. I will enjoy the war either way. 2.0 good performance during the war, alot worse after the war from some parts. Thought you were cool and mannered guys after our last war, not so much now. Laters


You're right SenSational is our secret weapon his 26 hits as well as Z's 14 made all the difference.


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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 01:51:36
Enough of this crap. Z did nothing. I am the sole reason for 2.0's win!

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 01:51:54


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Dude that chick is creepy looking. Its like she sees in to my soul.


You were looking into her eyes?

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 02:29:32
wtf, I went to work and we had a war?

this system is terrible.

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 02:45:46
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Dude that chick is creepy looking. Its like she sees in to my soul.


You were looking into her eyes?


I had to man Im tellin you she know what I was up too.

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 04:10:46
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wtf, I went to work and we had a war?

this system is terrible.


Realest post in the thread lol

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 09:08:55
You sent your Box of Tissues to Hogs4life.

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 09:46:14
nice one guys, 30 days and counting

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 09:48:00
Nice win against FTW 2.0er's

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 09:58:17
Congrats 2.0

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:28:34
There seems to be a lot of animosity in this thread ATM, I'm not proud of some comments from my fellow FTW'ers, 2.0 played the system, they beat us fair and square, so what if they declared without warning, isn't that what we did against 39th and SA? More factions should be doing the same thing, the problem here is the system, it's crap! War was over before most could get off of Xanax and there in lies the real problem, we want to fight back but all 2.0 had to do is stack some e, pop a few fhc's and keep burning chains, even though we tried to fight back it was to no avail, I get a war being won when one side lies down but when the other is trying to fight back it should last longer

Congrats again guys, I'm looking forward to round 3

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:59:53
I do not agree with most of you guys saying the warring system is flawed. Well it could prob get improved alot. But my point is that FTW lost this war cus we could not defend ourselves.

The attackers have huge advantages the first hours: Full energy, refill saved, maby stacked energy, rehabed maby spied stats, etc etc.

The defenders have huge disadvantages: Not full energy, prob high on xanax, flying around, heavily drugged, not organized, etc etc.

No brainers huu? For most yes.

But these advantages and disadvantages thin out as long as the war rages on, the stacked E will be used, xanax get out of the system, the defenders can organize themselves. The point when the odds will even out, will prob happen around 60-99% for the attackrs part, depending on how much the defenders managed to stall the attackers. When the prerequisites get even the winner and loser will be determined. Doesn't matter how close the attacker get to 100%, the defenders can still win the war.

This is why it made perfect sense for Hogs mentioned that 2.0 brought in guys from JFK, cus it dosnt matter when they join! In fact its just smart to save the big hitters energy until FTW got off their xanax etc. When Sen and Z joined our chances went from slim to 0. Thats why we stopped fighting in the end.

2.0 Critic: "Z has just joined less in 10mins ago."
Answer: read above.

2.0 Azrael: "Hang on you must of expected us, you were mailing for a agreement not to declare.....and wait for us all to be ready. Z came over like 30 mins ago after we were above 90% you were on your ass from the start."
Answer: No, read the above, and yes ofc we were on our asses from the start, read the above again.

2.0 Azrael: "Dude, we were like flies round a dog shit with you...only one way it was gonna go, a few friends wanted fun,didnt need them but who are we to turn family down."
Answer: You are just silly, read the above again. You clearly do not understand warring.

2.0 HLH: "It's a real shame that even a new war engine won't put a stop to the endless bitching in the forums every time a war ends."
Answer: Couldnt agree more.

2.0 Man_O_War: "Just so you know, Sen joined us when we were leading over 80%.
Z joined when we are at 90 something %. Don't upset. See you again in battlefield next month.
I do hope for crying free war next month thou."
Answer: Read above and my other post.

2.0: xlordx "You sent your Box of Tissues to Hogs4life."
Answer: Read above and I heard no moaning from hogs at all, he just stated the fact that you brought in guys, we never thought we were going to win this war anyway.

FTW Majsan "Why do I even care?"
Answer: No clue.

Congrats on the win though.

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:00:15
By critch [507888]
There seems to be a lot of animosity in this thread ATM, I'm not proud of some comments from my fellow FTW'ers, 2.0 played the system, they beat us fair and square, so what if they declared without warning, isn't that what we did against 39th and SA? More factions should be doing the same thing, the problem here is the system, it's crap! War was over before most could get off of Xanax and there in lies the real problem, we want to fight back but all 2.0 had to do is stack some e, pop a few fhc's and keep burning chains, even though we tried to fight back it was to no avail, I get a war being won when one side lies down but when the other is trying to fight back it should last longer

Congrats again guys, I'm looking forward to round 3


Someone finally talking facts.

Hogs has short term memory loss as bad as i do i guess.


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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:29:03
this kinda talk going on here is why i generally avoid war talk

so i'm gonna keep it simple: congrats 2.0, nice win and not forgetting, see you soon

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:32:43
Congrats 2.0

And para even told me he was expecting something to happen..

So FTW saying they never expected to be declared on is Bullshit.

And doesn't matter who joins when and where.. How can you deny friends if they want war?

That's like saying no to your GFs hot friend when she wants a 3 sum...

FTW made some awesome movement in the HOF..

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:45:34
Majsan-

We never denied bringing them over. What 2.0ers have tried explaining to your thick skulls is, the war was practically over (96%) when Z and Sen were finally accepted. So to continue to say we brought people in, under the assumption that it is also the reason why you lost, is silly.


And the same tactic we employed by declaring without any agreement is the same tactic you all used to gain rank #2. I dont really understand what all the complaining is about.

It was a good war. I would assume we would lose to being declared on without notice as well. (history has proven this). Why run in circles? Lets just cross our fingers for Torn 2.0, and a new warring system.


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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:55:24
Congratz JFK 2.0

Fair or not, JFK 2.0 won! That's a fact!

Bitching around about this war won't you get anywhere!

Have a rematch after 31 days...

Good luck next time Para...

PS. Did JFK 2.0 managed to hosp you abroad Para?

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:56:22
This argument is making no sense.

2.0/JFK are the same faction one is NOT a training faction.

2.0 is a chaining faction and they declared on you and won. Alot of the HoF has had run ins with 2.0 they don't need much help if any to beat up on top factions so Congratz to 2.0 for winning.

Now the real issue is JFK are now 1 and 2 again and that needs to change. I'd prefer we stop arguing and give them more sleepless nights and hospital time

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 13:56:30
You thought that was a good war nota? Seriously? Our last war was a good one, that was just a steamrolling, the good news is my Xanax od has ended, the bad news, so has the war

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 14:28:01
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Congrats 2.0

And para even told me he was expecting something to happen..

So FTW saying they never expected to be declared on is Bullshit.


Out of context there Pinhead so don't quote me like that.
We also know other factions will be declaring. Doesn't mean we know when.
Whereas other factions are giving us a heads up. Fair play to them.

It's swings and roundabouts. I have no beef either way.
What we really wanted was some notice so we could have gained more respect. Both sides.
It's obvious it would be a whitewash, we don't have the high stats and the activity.

So if you want our rank, stack and declare unannounced and you'll probably have it.

If you actually want a war, give us notice and we'll try our best. Chances are you would win anyway but at least it would have been fun.

That's why we didn't give 39th and SA notice. They outstat us massively.
With us coming unannounced it was as fair as we could make it.
39th stepped up and beat us to a pulp.
SA discovered they have a few slackers and leeches.
It's what happens.
Those forum threads were fun with the odd dick thrown in. We all know who they are

It is what it is.
JFK have never given us notice.
Hats off to FTW though. We gave them such a shock last time they declared unannounced that this time they came in full war mode with stacked e dripping from their swords
Maybe that's why they never give us advance notice


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Congratz JFK 2.0

Fair or not, JFK 2.0 won! That's a fact!

Bitching around about this war won't you get anywhere!

Have a rematch after 31 days...

Good luck next time Para...

PS. Did JFK 2.0 managed to hosp you abroad Para?



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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 15:02:33
Grats to 2.0. As for the bitching the system is the system.

Hate the game not the player.

Would it have been nice for JFK to warn you they were declaring. Yes.

Do they need to do this if they don't want to? No

Did both sides gain respect? Yes

It is a war/crime game not neopets. Its not as if the mob was gonna hit another crime family they called them ahead of time to setup a time and place. JFK started this termed war stuff that up until 4-5 years ago would have been unheard of. Now people cry and get all butt hurt if they don't term war.

Both sides should have fun and hopefully they did. That is what War in torn is about. The wins and losses are window dressing. The important thing is both sides gained respect, chained hard and improved their faction. The bitching just makes people look petty.

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 15:38:37
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It is a war/crime game not neopets. Its not as if the mob was gonna hit another crime family they called them ahead of time to setup a time and place. JFK started this termed war stuff that up until 4-5 years ago would have been unheard of. Now people cry and get all butt hurt if they don't term war.


Just to clarify. 2.0 do things their way, JFK main does things its way. We still prefer and basically only do termed wars. The sole exceptions are when someone deserves a beating (scammer factions, revenge and such) or filler factions. Basically the only way to get a good war is to set up terms before start. That's not cuz I like it, believe me, its super hard and painful to negotiate terms that suit everyone, but its still worth it compared to "regular" way.

Of course our view of the game may be a bit distorted as we all have been around for ages, and have experienced warring at its best and its worst, and now we dont wanna settle for lesser things. That's why we try to show understanding for those that are a tad younger than we are, and are still hungry to war regardless of the way it is.

Anyway, enough of the serious talk, I think this thread needs some more pussy

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 16:11:05
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Majsan-

We never denied bringing them over. What 2.0ers have tried explaining to your thick skulls is, the war was practically over (96%) when Z and Sen were finally accepted. So to continue to say we brought people in, under the assumption that it is also the reason why you lost, is silly.


And the same tactic we employed by declaring without any agreement is the same tactic you all used to gain rank #2. I dont really understand what all the complaining is about.

It was a good war. I would assume we would lose to being declared on without notice as well. (history has proven this). Why run in circles? Lets just cross our fingers for Torn 2.0, and a new warring system.


What are you talking about? lol noone ever said you denied having them, we could all see them in warbase. 96% bs pure bs, I logged out way before you reached 90% and Sen were in warbase long before that, Z joined in much later, but who cares. If you actually read all post you may also get into your thick skull that Ive never said that they were the reson you won. "It made our chances go from slim to 0". Hard to understand? I guess. Who complained about your unannounced declare? I did not. I favor unnanounced delares, that much more fun. The argument started when Hogs stated that you brought in Sen and Z. And apparently that was a very sensetive subject. Ofc two guys who can beat our whole faction without even sweating make an inpact. You make no sense man. And I have never ever said that you shouldnt bring in those guys, you are lucky to have that kind of power in your factions.

Some time ago we attacked HT and got them, what I can recall, beyond 90% and still lost the war. They stalled us to the point they could regroup and chained the guts out of us. In your world that couldnt happen I guess.

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 16:16:37
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Congrats 2.0




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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 16:24:19
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Just so you know, Sen joined us when we were leading over 80%.
Z joined when we are at 90 something %.

Don't upset.
See you again in battlefield next month.
I do hope for crying free war next month thou.



96% was it Nota?

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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 17:36:26
damn, so much moaning... you're better than that FTW.
congratz 2.0



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Posted on Tue Apr 02, 2013 17:49:39
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Dude that chick is creepy looking. Its like she sees in to my soul.


You were looking into her eyes?


She has eyes ? i didnt even see her head

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