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Lonestar
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 20:29:29
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By Doublejack69 [268095]
I think JFK main lost to DA in the 3 way war?
2.0 have also lost to DA and Ninja.
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I find it slightly amusing that you can only name one war that the main have lost! 
Seriously, and this isn't meant in a derogative way whatsoever but how do the players in JFK carry on in there knowing there is very little challenge to their dominance and almost zero competition? I mean - its not that you are ever going to lose a war, are you? Don't you get bored? I would.....
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Nota
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 20:41:23
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By mat [952164]
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Anyone looking for a faction to war that actually fights back? Message me lol |
you could always war JFK 1.0 .
honestly jfk is too powerful for 99% of torn and even with terms you're still near impossible to beat
give it a year or two and see if JFK get over taken  |
I swear it doesnt matter how many times i ask, i see the same answers.
Are JFK getting stronger, or is TC getting weaker?
I dont get it.
Guess well go on a training break until the system forces wars instead of holding hands.
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Subah
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 20:43:56
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By Nota [68062]
By mat [952164]
By Nota [68062]
Anyone looking for a faction to war that actually fights back? Message me lol |
you could always war JFK 1.0 .
honestly jfk is too powerful for 99% of torn and even with terms you're still near impossible to beat
give it a year or two and see if JFK get over taken  |
I swear it doesnt matter how many times i ask, i see the same answers.
Are JFK getting stronger, or is TC getting weaker?
I dont get it.
Guess well go on a training break until the system forces wars instead of holding hands. |
Would u go on a war u knew u were gonna lose? and mat its more like 99.999% of Torn ;p
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mat
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 22:01:24
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By Nota [68062]
By mat [952164]
By Nota [68062]
Anyone looking for a faction to war that actually fights back? Message me lol |
you could always war JFK 1.0 .
honestly jfk is too powerful for 99% of torn and even with terms you're still near impossible to beat
give it a year or two and see if JFK get over taken  |
I swear it doesnt matter how many times i ask, i see the same answers.
Are JFK getting stronger, or is TC getting weaker?
I dont get it.
Guess well go on a training break until the system forces wars instead of holding hands. |
im sorry nota but the only thing i could think is if like 2 factions went to war against you possibly 39th/DA? but you have the monopoly when it comes to greatest faction, and with this comes cons of not being able to find war that often 
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Myhedin
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 22:20:48
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By Nota [68062]
By mat [952164]
By Nota [68062]
Anyone looking for a faction to war that actually fights back? Message me lol |
you could always war JFK 1.0 .
honestly jfk is too powerful for 99% of torn and even with terms you're still near impossible to beat
give it a year or two and see if JFK get over taken  |
I swear it doesnt matter how many times i ask, i see the same answers.
Are JFK getting stronger, or is TC getting weaker?
I dont get it.
Guess well go on a training break until the system forces wars instead of holding hands. |
JFK was always strong. Nobody wants to war them cause they know JFK has high stated players and active players. Also maybe you are right TC is getting weaker. In the past there were many factions warring, but now it changed. They don't war, they only train.
P.S I think If a faction wants to beat JFK in Torn, they should ally maybe 39th/Evo/DA. If the member players from those factions I mentioned are gathered Im sure they could stand a chance against JFK.
EDIT: Some grammar mistakes
Last Edited: Sat Aug 11, 2012 22:21:48
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Nota
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 22:52:50
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Im not looking for wars for JFK main members. Im looking for wars for 2.0.
Is everyone afraid of a faction that has a stat avg of 175m (not including myself)?
No, theyre afraid of a couple guests from main. Speak up and request a fight with no members from main, otherwise just put a foot in your mouth. Just just say JFK this JFK that, its a cop out.
And to the rhetorical question - ofc, no one want to get involved in a war if they KNOW they are going to lose. But how does ALL of TC KNOW this? Weve been beaten many times (im speaking for 2.0 because thats who im representing , not main in this thread). When we do ask for help its because we bite off bigger targets then we can chew (think DA, EVO, 39th etc). So, if we cant compete with those 3 listed above, and everyone else is simply afraid.....
well i guess weve won TC?! lol
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mat
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 22:58:08
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By Nota [68062]
Im not looking for wars for JFK main members. Im looking for wars for 2.0.
Is everyone afraid of a faction that has a stat avg of 175m (not including myself)?
No, theyre afraid of a couple guests from main. Speak up and request a fight with no members from main, otherwise just put a foot in your mouth. Just just say JFK this JFK that, its a cop out.
And to the rhetorical question - ofc, no one want to get involved in a war if they KNOW they are going to lose. But how does ALL of TC KNOW this? Weve been beaten many times (im speaking for 2.0 because thats who im representing , not main in this thread). When we do ask for help its because we bite off bigger targets then we can chew (think DA, EVO, 39th etc). So, if we cant compete with those 3 listed above, and everyone else is simply afraid.....
well i guess weve won TC?! lol |
time for 3.0? 
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Nota
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 23:00:11
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By mat [952164]
im sorry nota but the only thing i could think is if like 2 factions went to war against you possibly 39th/DA? but you have the monopoly when it comes to greatest faction, and with this comes cons of not being able to find war that often  |
Im sorry mat, but your confused as the rest of the TC community about who 2.0 are, and who JFK are. We are the same family, with 2 completely different member bases. What your talking about is when ALL of 2.0 goes to JFK Main for mutli way wars (were invited into those btw). or, your confused with (at the most 6) recent guests we had to be able to compete with a faction called n00b! And because of our guests, EVO was willing to accept a non termed war against us just family vs family(where 2.0 still had less then 11 guests from main).
Im looking for wars for 2.0. Please tell me which factions in the hof right now have no chance, as you and others have stated? Id say, most we dont measure up to stat wise, and even member base size, so half the HoF isnt realistically war-able. The other 50% is either too strong, (so we look for a war where we can have a few guests) or theyre too weak for us (which isnt too common to be perfectly honest).
175m stat avg for 2.0 vs ??
When we get guests, i understand thats when the playing field changes. So please dont just revert back to that story. I get it. But thats not where were at right now.
You cant tell me our current roster would make 39th tremble, or evo, or da......c'mon! Yet weve entertained warring them all from 2.0!
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Nota
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 23:00:53
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By mat [952164]
By Nota [68062]
Im not looking for wars for JFK main members. Im looking for wars for 2.0.
Is everyone afraid of a faction that has a stat avg of 175m (not including myself)?
No, theyre afraid of a couple guests from main. Speak up and request a fight with no members from main, otherwise just put a foot in your mouth. Just just say JFK this JFK that, its a cop out.
And to the rhetorical question - ofc, no one want to get involved in a war if they KNOW they are going to lose. But how does ALL of TC KNOW this? Weve been beaten many times (im speaking for 2.0 because thats who im representing , not main in this thread). When we do ask for help its because we bite off bigger targets then we can chew (think DA, EVO, 39th etc). So, if we cant compete with those 3 listed above, and everyone else is simply afraid.....
well i guess weve won TC?! lol |
time for 3.0? 
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Well, i cant be in 3 places at 3 times. Id ofc need a trustworthy leader. You up for the job? lol
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mat
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| Posted on Sat Aug 11, 2012 23:15:12
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By Nota [68062]
By mat [952164]
By Nota [68062]
Im not looking for wars for JFK main members. Im looking for wars for 2.0.
Is everyone afraid of a faction that has a stat avg of 175m (not including myself)?
No, theyre afraid of a couple guests from main. Speak up and request a fight with no members from main, otherwise just put a foot in your mouth. Just just say JFK this JFK that, its a cop out.
And to the rhetorical question - ofc, no one want to get involved in a war if they KNOW they are going to lose. But how does ALL of TC KNOW this? Weve been beaten many times (im speaking for 2.0 because thats who im representing , not main in this thread). When we do ask for help its because we bite off bigger targets then we can chew (think DA, EVO, 39th etc). So, if we cant compete with those 3 listed above, and everyone else is simply afraid.....
well i guess weve won TC?! lol |
time for 3.0? 
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Well, i cant be in 3 places at 3 times. Id ofc need a trustworthy leader. You up for the job? lol
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ah, i shall be forever loyal to HT, in their bad times and good
that being said, i still hope you find a war - maybe HT in a years time if we rebuild well enough ha
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Subah
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| Posted on Sun Aug 12, 2012 00:36:36
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By mat [952164]
im sorry nota but the only thing i could think is if like 2 factions went to war against you possibly 39th/DA? but you have the monopoly when it comes to greatest faction, and with this comes cons of not being able to find war that often  |
Im sorry mat, but your confused as the rest of the TC community about who 2.0 are, and who JFK are. We are the same family, with 2 completely different member bases. What your talking about is when ALL of 2.0 goes to JFK Main for mutli way wars (were invited into those btw). or, your confused with (at the most 6) recent guests we had to be able to compete with a faction called n00b! And because of our guests, EVO was willing to accept a non termed war against us just family vs family(where 2.0 still had less then 11 guests from main).
Im looking for wars for 2.0. Please tell me which factions in the hof right now have no chance, as you and others have stated? Id say, most we dont measure up to stat wise, and even member base size, so half the HoF isnt realistically war-able. The other 50% is either too strong, (so we look for a war where we can have a few guests) or theyre too weak for us (which isnt too common to be perfectly honest).
175m stat avg for 2.0 vs ??
When we get guests, i understand thats when the playing field changes. So please dont just revert back to that story. I get it. But thats not where were at right now.
You cant tell me our current roster would make 39th tremble, or evo, or da......c'mon! Yet weve entertained warring them all from 2.0!
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bring ur average stat down to 5 mill where we are and we can war
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Charger
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| Posted on Sun Aug 12, 2012 08:13:36
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After this Wednesday I should have my personal stuff sorted and we can get back to planning a war
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LeukyBear
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I would love to have a war with 2.0 or even main. I don't really care who wins as long as there is a fight. However, I do not speak on behalf of my faction, and this is not an acceptance (we are probably way to newly formed and have too many teething problems to give you the fight you may be interested in) of anything. But I don't understand why anyone would avoid a war where you pretty much both win (respect gain wise), and have some great fun along the way.
I however also refuse to beat up on my wife. It's an ethical thing
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g_ho
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| Posted on Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:24:41
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By LeukyBear [83808]
I would love to have a war with 2.0 or even main. I don't really care who wins as long as there is a fight. However, I do not speak on behalf of my faction, and this is not an acceptance (we are probably way to newly formed and have too many teething problems to give you the fight you may be interested in) of anything. But I don't understand why anyone would avoid a war where you pretty much both win (respect gain wise), and have some great fun along the way.
I however also refuse to beat up on my wife. It's an ethical thing |
you're just too good to me hubby xoxox

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Nota
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| Posted on Mon Aug 13, 2012 00:36:55
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By Charger [21955]
After this Wednesday I should have my personal stuff sorted and we can get back to planning a war |
Id like that, but i wasted too much effort last time. I appreciate the offer, and the follow up. Maybe you could build a "sub"
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Nota
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| Posted on Mon Aug 13, 2012 00:45:30
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By LeukyBear [83808]
I would love to have a war with 2.0 or even main. I don't really care who wins as long as there is a fight. However, I do not speak on behalf of my faction, and this is not an acceptance (we are probably way to newly formed and have too many teething problems to give you the fight you may be interested in) of anything. But I don't understand why anyone would avoid a war where you pretty much both win (respect gain wise), and have some great fun along the way.
I however also refuse to beat up on my wife. It's an ethical thing |
Pusc also said yall were interested. Just waiting to hear when yall are ready. I think 2.0 vs ressurection could be a very good matchup.
Keep it under 40-45 members and it would be interesting.
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Robb_Stark
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nota i seen in a post earlier you said is t.c getting weaker compared to JFK id say yes for sure noone wants to fight JFK so they train while the rest fight i only see the gap getting bigger
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Subah
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| Posted on Mon Aug 13, 2012 05:08:04
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By Robb_Stark [1075937]
nota i seen in a post earlier you said is t.c getting weaker compared to JFK id say yes for sure noone wants to fight JFK so they train while the rest fight i only see the gap getting bigger |
THAT, not to mention, out of top 20 strongest players in TC, more than 10 are in JFK if I'm not mistaken...
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Lonestar
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| Posted on Mon Aug 13, 2012 05:23:39
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By Subah [1465084]
By Robb_Stark [1075937]
nota i seen in a post earlier you said is t.c getting weaker compared to JFK id say yes for sure noone wants to fight JFK so they train while the rest fight i only see the gap getting bigger |
THAT, not to mention, out of top 20 strongest players in TC, more than 10 are in JFK if I'm not mistaken... |
Ah, but as nota pointed out its 2.0, not the main.
The issue is still that either one of the JFKs could beat 99% of factions here in Torn. JFK 2.0 are probay only beatable by DA and 39th in my opinion so their lack of wars is understandable. And thats only if they dont get guests from the main.
However, give it 6 months and i think Evolution could put up a decent fight. They may lose but it will be decent.....
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Robb_Stark
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By Lonestar [1151936]
By Subah [1465084]
By Robb_Stark [1075937]
nota i seen in a post earlier you said is t.c getting weaker compared to JFK id say yes for sure noone wants to fight JFK so they train while the rest fight i only see the gap getting bigger |
THAT, not to mention, out of top 20 strongest players in TC, more than 10 are in JFK if I'm not mistaken... |
Ah, but as nota pointed out its 2.0, not the main.
The issue is still that either one of the JFKs could beat 99% of factions here in Torn. JFK 2.0 are probay only beatable by DA and 39th in my opinion so their lack of wars is understandable. And thats only if they dont get guests from the main.
However, give it 6 months and i think Evolution could put up a decent fight. They may lose but it will be decent..... |
2.0 will be the next second best faction getting around once noone wants to fight them then what we just going full circle facts are facts JFK can never be beat 1v1 stat wise and soon 2.0 will be same way as long as noone wants to fight them because they either cant or wont
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Azrael
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There is a common misconception that JFK are beasts there are a few but i see the average player add there stats to the bot on IRC and i will be honest in saying i have seen bigger guys in our 39th/EVO spy reports.
This is not a war thread for JFK main this is for 2.0,our base members as Nota said are not beasts,we have a good range of stats and we have very good activity and IRC use
We do have guests from main but they are either ex members or guys who want some action or both and its good to have a few higher stated players to help cover our asses.
2.0 are looking for wars with our base members,if we need one or 2 to step out or in to make it fair then so be it.
Come one,come all
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LeukyBear
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| Posted on Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:05:59
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In all honesty what I would like to see is a war or two that is totally fought one to one, with only each faction beating on each other, no filler factions to boost chains. That is when real tactics would again be especially required and wouldn't simply rely on raping other factions.
That however is a pipe dream and won't occur. Raping respect is too easy with this current system.
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Skulduggery_P
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Vulpes vs 2.0, no guests, and only weapons as hammers (single), double barrell shot gunz and ak 47's 
Sounds good, if only fooxeh would get offa her bum and chain 
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Nota
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There ya go, something interesting
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Azrael
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By Skulduggery_P [1539587]
Vulpes vs 2.0, no guests, and only weapons as hammers (Dual), double barrell shot gunz and ak 47's 
Sounds good, if only fooxeh would get offa her bum and chain  |
Sounds good
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Skulduggery_P
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By Skulduggery_P [1539587]
Vulpes vs 2.0, no guests, and only weapons as hammers (Dual), double barrell shot gunz and ak 47's 
Sounds good, if only fooxeh would get offa her bum and chain  |
Sounds good
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Vulpites are poor, so unless you shout us all dual hamz it'd be singles 
That is if it would even happen lol
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Critic
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By Skulduggery_P [1539587]
Vulpes vs 2.0, no guests, and only weapons as hammers (single), double barrell shot gunz and ak 47's 
Sounds good, if only fooxeh would get offa her bum and chain  |
Let's do it!
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By Skulduggery_P [1539587]
Vulpes vs 2.0, no guests, and only weapons as hammers (single), double barrell shot gunz and ak 47's 
Sounds good, if only fooxeh would get offa her bum and chain  |
Let's do it! |
Haha Foxxeh is gunna kill me for suggesting this
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By Skulduggery_P [1539587]
Vulpes vs 2.0, no guests, and only weapons as hammers (single), double barrell shot gunz and ak 47's 
Sounds good, if only fooxeh would get offa her bum and chain  |
Let's do it! |
Haha Foxxeh is gunna kill me for suggesting this |
Haha
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