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Posted on Mon Dec 30, 2013 22:58:32
i prefer Itzamna

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Posted on Mon Dec 30, 2013 23:14:48

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i prefer Itzamna


Bah.

Mighty Cthulhu eats Itzamna and craps Quetzalcoatl!

Cthulhu fhtagn!


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Posted on Tue Dec 31, 2013 02:11:33
mmmm Cthulhu...what a hunk!

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Posted on Tue Dec 31, 2013 02:13:14
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mmmm Cthulhu...what a hunk!



Isn't he a little old for you? Afterall he was born in 1928


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Posted on Tue Dec 31, 2013 02:21:22
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Newsflash einsteins, most western and european democracies wouldn't exist if it weren't for christian values.

You can thank most of the freedoms you enjoy to 'religion'.


your correct. i guess all the religious persecution throughout time was totally worth it.


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Posted on Tue Dec 31, 2013 02:29:35
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Newsflash einsteins, most western and european democracies wouldn't exist if it weren't for christian values.

You can thank most of the freedoms you enjoy to 'religion'.


your correct. i guess all the religious persecution throughout time was totally worth it.


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Whether by theology or political ideology, the various institutions of civil management have all at one time or another been hijacked and its ideal intent perverted in order to exploit. Whether the Roman Empire, or Judaism, or Liberal Democracy,etc., all have much blood of innocents in their history.


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Posted on Tue Dec 31, 2013 03:34:34
Cthulhu is far older than that and even me, Sekhmet...

In Egyptian mythology, Sekhmet was originally the warrior goddess as well as goddess of healing for Upper Egypt. She is depicted as a lioness, the fiercest hunter known to the Egyptians. It was said that her breath formed the desert. She was seen as the protector of the pharaohs and led them in warfare.

Her cult was so dominant in the culture that when the first pharaoh of the twelfth dynasty, Amenemhat I, moved the capital of Egypt to Itjtawy, the centre for her cult was moved as well. Religion, the royal lineage, and the authority to govern were intrinsically interwoven in Ancient Egypt during its approximately three millennia of existence.

Sekhmet also is a Solar deity, sometimes called the daughter of the sun god Ra and often associated with the goddesses Hathor and Bast. She bears the Solar disk and the uraeus which associates her with Wadjet and royalty. With these associations she can be construed as being a divine arbiter of the goddess Ma'at (Justice, or Order) in the Judgment Hall of Osiris, associating her with the Wedjat (later the Eye of Ra), and connecting her with Tefnut as well.

The reason Ra gave life to me is another story and probably the reason I like beer so much.

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Posted on Sun Jan 05, 2014 23:36:54
Religion kills more people than disease, starvation and disasters combined...without religion, the world would be even more overpopulated... thusly worse off.

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Posted on Mon Jan 06, 2014 00:26:02
sorry, but the world wouldnt be better off without religion. Yes religion has taken many many lives...but it has also saved and still saves many many lives everyday. for the people who claim the cost of life does not support religion are taking in the negative only and turning a blind eye to the good it does. You could also look at many of the lifers in prison and the good it does for them and see just how powerful the brain is and what religion can do for people for truely believe.

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Posted on Mon Jan 06, 2014 00:30:13
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Religion kills more people than disease, starvation and disasters combined...without religion, the world would be even more overpopulated... thusly worse off.


I would love to see your evidence of the above.

Militant atheism and cultural Marxism is a far greater threat to humanity than all the religions put together.

When you folks realize that capitalistic globalism requires the masses to be under a cultural Marxist style of legitimized oppression the better you will be.




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Posted on Mon Jan 06, 2014 00:47:22
All this arguing and we all know we are controlled by some brain bug from the planet klendathu

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Posted on Mon Jan 06, 2014 01:25:01

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All this arguing and we all know we are controlled by some brain bug from the planet klendathu


Robert Heinlein will not save you.
Casper Van Dien will not save you.

Cthulhu will consume all!


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Posted on Mon Jan 06, 2014 15:31:40
Who knows.

Some have said on here that they need it to stay in control,else they would be out murdering folks or whatever.
Some say they cant function without the hope they will Live forever in a next life....some just love being on their knee's few times a day.


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Posted on Tue Jan 07, 2014 17:25:46
religion is often hijacked for ulterior motives. Militant atheism and capitalism take more lives.

Just say no to cultural Marxism.

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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 07:17:42
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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:39:15
Firstly I am not religious.

However for anyone saying religions causes war etc. I say bullshit. Religious belief is given as an excuse to war and kill people. If religion did not exist are we all saying the world would be a peaceful place? Of course not, people would simply find some other excuse to war and kill people.

People will point to people who take religion to an extreme and make it look bad as a reason why religion is bad. However every group has extreme elements who make everyone else look bad.
Because some white people are racists, does that make every white person racist and therefore we should ask is the world better off without white people?
because some black people are criminals does that make every black person a criminal and therefore we should ask is the world better off without black people?

Ultimately the vast majority of religious people are not extremists, they are not out to convert everyone. They practice their belief in private with little impact on others.
Same as any group be it religion, race, sexuality, disability etc.



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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 16:53:17
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Firstly I am not religious.

However for anyone saying religions causes war etc. I say bullshit. Religious belief is given as an excuse to war and kill people. If religion did not exist are we all saying the world would be a peaceful place? Of course not, people would simply find some other excuse to war and kill people.

People will point to people who take religion to an extreme and make it look bad as a reason why religion is bad. However every group has extreme elements who make everyone else look bad.
Because some white people are racists, does that make every white person racist and therefore we should ask is the world better off without white people?
because some black people are criminals does that make every black person a criminal and therefore we should ask is the world better off without black people?

Ultimately the vast majority of religious people are not extremists, they are not out to convert everyone. They practice their belief in private with little impact on others.
Same as any group be it religion, race, sexuality, disability etc.




Wells said, and a point that all too many gloss over in their effort to condemn religion, no matter how foolish.



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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 17:07:06
I wonder how many kids lots their parents today because they didnt use a condom..because certain cretins said it was a sin...what a wonderful thing.


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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 17:16:05
The main problem with religion is that it makes its followers totally irrational and in some cases makes them do things which would in any other situation make them look mentally ill.

You cant eat such and such food. You have to have a baby every time you have sex. Its a cool idea to fly planes into a building. Its a cool idea to blow your self up with a bomb. Its a cool idea to go to church everyday. You can only wear certain clothes. You cant shave or cut your hair.

It is irrational nonsense and it is really rather sad how some people let religion dictate how they live their lives

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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 17:50:57
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The main problem with religion is that it makes its followers totally irrational and in some cases makes them do things which would in any other situation make them look mentally ill.

You cant eat such and such food. You have to have a baby every time you have sex. Its a cool idea to fly planes into a building. Its a cool idea to blow your self up with a bomb. Its a cool idea to go to church everyday. You can only wear certain clothes. You cant shave or cut your hair.

It is irrational nonsense and it is really rather sad how some people let religion dictate how they live their lives


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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 19:22:45
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The main problem with religion is that it makes its followers totally irrational and in some cases makes them do things which would in any other situation make them look mentally ill.

You cant eat such and such food. You have to have a baby every time you have sex. Its a cool idea to fly planes into a building. Its a cool idea to blow your self up with a bomb. Its a cool idea to go to church everyday. You can only wear certain clothes. You cant shave or cut your hair.

It is irrational nonsense and it is really rather sad how some people let religion dictate how they live their lives


Of course, its religions fault that people want to take things to extremes!
I guess at the same time we should blame Karl Marx for the evil that is communism, I mean look at all the people Stalin had killed in the name of communism.
Lets see what else makes people do irrational things.
Being a football supporter! look at all the trouble we get because of it. Clearly all football supporters are torncity and we would be better off without football.


As i said earlier, every group has extremists which is a minority. However it is always this minority which people look at and tar everyone else with the same brush. What you are doing with religion is exactly the same.
The problem with a minority of non-religious people is they are as blinded in their view of religion as those who they accuse who are religious of being blinded by their religion. They seem to fail to see the positive aspects religion does give most of its believers and focus purely on the negatives.

Yes I will compare this minority with groups like the EDL in the UK. Focusing on the negatives of immigration. ignoring any benefit the UK has had and continues to have from immigration.

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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 19:46:24
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I wonder how many kids lots their parents today because they didnt use a condom..because certain cretins said it was a sin...what a wonderful thing.


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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 19:56:30
I guess its the negatives that really bug me as were supposed to be dealing with 'the maker of all things' here,not some start up business.
I dont get the,you gotta take the rough with the smooth with religion,it seems to be as fallible as any other man made/man run venture.

Some things done by religious people are brillaint,id rather praise 'the people' doing it then the religion behind it,because most religions could do a lot lot more to change attitudes.

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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 22:16:48
religion isn't the cause of the violence. the people in charge of religions are. the small minority of religious people that cause these tragedies shouldnt be considered the norm.

without religion things would be much worse. for the most part its an outlet to express positive feelings towards fellow man. its also a major contributor in charity functions that many people couldn't live without.

the world could do without religious extremists for sure, but the world has a great need for religion. even atheists seem to be forming their own form of religion, so clearly the need for it is there.

there is a lot more to religion than believing in a supernatural being. if you don't realize that, then perhaps you should look at it again.



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Posted on Fri Jan 10, 2014 23:55:17
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I was just wondering if the world will be better off with or without religion
I'm not the biggest fan of religion but I cud be necessary to keep ppl in line
Would love to hear what torn has to say
Oh I'm I'm only talking about the religion that believe in supernatural gods


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