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What?I chose to see the world for what is,you think theres a guy in the sky moving pieces here and there..YOUR words were there has to be evil to make Heaven so good<----- you said that.


Ok..lets take some easy deaths for clean water,babies,kids die from drinking shitty water..where does that fit in?You saying god sometimes doesnt care?Is it every man for himself until heaven?

I have tried to figure it out,tried to make sense of it but theres none fecking there dood...its all wishful thinking and lots of hoping.

Does the family memeber get into Heaven then?



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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


Ahhh so you are saying God..the almighty one is letting some evil slip in there,bit of child rape here..bit there,its all for the god of heaven..You too have now turned children into chess pieces.

You just have you're eyes on the prize,A place in Heaven..awwww,tell me E-14 lets say a memeber of you're family decides hes had enough and stops believing...BUT you're family want him in heaven because that is there Heaven to have all the family there...so who wins?Do you get the Heaven you desire..Or does God/Devil get his way and hes sent to hell...leaving your Heaven unfulfilled.



seriously you have some issues when you was a tiny bigot? is that why your fascinated by child rape?

I have never made a comment regarding children being killed, if you want to talk about that then we can look at your country of origin and see how much blood of children they have on their hands.

say my brother choose to turn away then that is his choice, he is not a child and he knows whats right and wrong, I'll try to convince him but if that fails then i'll let it be simple.

I doubt you follow any religion so I wont bother asking you the same question



What?I chose to see the world for what is,you think theres a guy in the sky moving pieces here and there..YOUR words were there has to be evil to make Heaven so good<----- you said that.


Ok..lets take some easy deaths for clean water,babies,kids die from drinking shitty water..where does that fit in?You saying god sometimes doesnt care?Is it every man for himself until heaven?

I have tried to figure it out,tried to make sense of it but theres none fecking there dood...its all wishful thinking and lots of hoping.



I know I said that and that is true.

look death is written down for you, the time the place what will you be doing and how will you die is written in your fate/destiny, say these kids die for a reason what ever the reason be their time of living has come to an end, don't get me wrong I does kill me inside to hear how these kids get caught up in wars and die as a result of cross fire.

man it's not wishful thinking, get your doubts out and think with a clear mind, you will see what I am talking about makes sense

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


From a historical perspective the purpose seems to be to kill other people who dont support your religion since they have been warring over religion since the dawn of time.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


Ahhh so you are saying God..the almighty one is letting some evil slip in there,bit of child rape here..bit there,its all for the god of heaven..You too have now turned children into chess pieces.

You just have you're eyes on the prize,A place in Heaven..awwww,tell me E-14 lets say a memeber of you're family decides hes had enough and stops believing...BUT you're family want him in heaven because that is there Heaven to have all the family there...so who wins?Do you get the Heaven you desire..Or does God/Devil get his way and hes sent to hell...leaving your Heaven unfulfilled.



seriously you have some issues when you was a tiny bigot? is that why your fascinated by child rape?

I have never made a comment regarding children being killed, if you want to talk about that then we can look at your country of origin and see how much blood of children they have on their hands.

say my brother choose to turn away then that is his choice, he is not a child and he knows whats right and wrong, I'll try to convince him but if that fails then i'll let it be simple.

I doubt you follow any religion so I wont bother asking you the same question



What?I chose to see the world for what is,you think theres a guy in the sky moving pieces here and there..YOUR words were there has to be evil to make Heaven so good<----- you said that.


Ok..lets take some easy deaths for clean water,babies,kids die from drinking shitty water..where does that fit in?You saying god sometimes doesnt care?Is it every man for himself until heaven?

I have tried to figure it out,tried to make sense of it but theres none fecking there dood...its all wishful thinking and lots of hoping.



I know I said that and that is true.

look death is written down for you, the time the place what will you be doing and how will you die is written in your fate/destiny, say these kids die for a reason what ever the reason be their time of living has come to an end, don't get me wrong I does kill me inside to hear how these kids get caught up in wars and die as a result of cross fire.

man it's not wishful thinking, get your doubts out and think with a clear mind, you will see what I am talking about makes sense


LOL,Believe me its didnt get any clearer from your answer.

So now Heaven has a staff room,a staff room filed with files like

9month old..dies from being beaten by its mother.
1yr 2months...dies from drinking water with animal turds and human turds in it
1yr 5 months...burns to death in House fire.




Does that sound insane to you?Not even insane,does it sound like a wonderful system you just want to please?

One thing i get is all you lot are terrified of death..not exsisting,so you clamp onto this crud that could give you ever lasting life.Well done on brain washing yourself.



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When did religions get nuclear weapons?


The Church of England
EST by Saint Augustine of Canterbury in AD 597

First successful nuclear test: July 16, 1945

Snippet from Wikipedia....

"Today, the relationship with the United States represents the "most important bilateral partnership" in current British foreign policy, and the American foreign policy affirms its relationship with Britain as its most important bilateral relationship"

This historical relationship, and the large amount of influence UK scientists had on the Manhattan Project means that this was the first example of an established religion having access to nuclear weaponry.

Beyond that the following countries are known to have nuclear stockpiles...
United States
Russia
France
China
India
Pakistan <-- State established religion: Islam
North Korea
Israel

Unless otherwise notated the listed states do not have any one established religion. Yes that includes Israel. There is no law indicating Judaism to be a state established religion there. Although with nearly 80% of the population identifying as Jewish it's easy to see that the three major Abrahamic religions each have representatives with known nuclear weapons.


Hang on, so your idea of a religious body having access to nuclear armaments is that their nation of origin has some?


I'm not pointing out nations of origin. I'm pointing out nations that have state established religions. Meaning religious freedom in that nation is either forbidden or frowned upon. I'm pretty sure you'd have a hard time finding anything other than Muslims in Pakistan. Likewise, in the UK, even when the popularity of the Church of England is at all time lows, a full 59.5% of the population still profess to be christian. According to the 2011 census data. Well if we compare that with the ~72% from the 2001 census data and extrapolate backwards to the 1940's and '50s... you see where I'm going.

These are not countries of origin these are countries that are either consumed by or previously consumed by their own religious affiliations. The governments and leaders of these nations are HEAVILY influenced by religious doctrine. And although they may not be a member of the clergy I guarantee that each belongs to his country's religion.

By using these defining characteristics I could easily include other countries that are influenced heavily by religion and posses nuclear weaponry, but I'm being rather generous.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


Ahhh so you are saying God..the almighty one is letting some evil slip in there,bit of child rape here..bit there,its all for the god of heaven..You too have now turned children into chess pieces.

You just have you're eyes on the prize,A place in Heaven..awwww,tell me E-14 lets say a memeber of you're family decides hes had enough and stops believing...BUT you're family want him in heaven because that is there Heaven to have all the family there...so who wins?Do you get the Heaven you desire..Or does God/Devil get his way and hes sent to hell...leaving your Heaven unfulfilled.



seriously you have some issues when you was a tiny bigot? is that why your fascinated by child rape?

I have never made a comment regarding children being killed, if you want to talk about that then we can look at your country of origin and see how much blood of children they have on their hands.

say my brother choose to turn away then that is his choice, he is not a child and he knows whats right and wrong, I'll try to convince him but if that fails then i'll let it be simple.

I doubt you follow any religion so I wont bother asking you the same question



What?I chose to see the world for what is,you think theres a guy in the sky moving pieces here and there..YOUR words were there has to be evil to make Heaven so good<----- you said that.


Ok..lets take some easy deaths for clean water,babies,kids die from drinking shitty water..where does that fit in?You saying god sometimes doesnt care?Is it every man for himself until heaven?

I have tried to figure it out,tried to make sense of it but theres none fecking there dood...its all wishful thinking and lots of hoping.



I know I said that and that is true.

look death is written down for you, the time the place what will you be doing and how will you die is written in your fate/destiny, say these kids die for a reason what ever the reason be their time of living has come to an end, don't get me wrong I does kill me inside to hear how these kids get caught up in wars and die as a result of cross fire.

man it's not wishful thinking, get your doubts out and think with a clear mind, you will see what I am talking about makes sense


LOL,Believe me its didnt get any clearer from your answer.

So now Heaven has a staff room,a staff room filed with files like

9month old..dies from being beaten by its mother.
1yr 2months...dies from drinking water with animal turds and human turds in it
1yr 5 months...burns to death in House fire.




Does that sound insane to you?Not even insane,does it sound like a wonderful system you just want to please?

One thing i get is all you lot are terrified of death..not exsisting,so you clamp onto this crud that could give you ever lasting life.Well done on brain washing yourself.



a death is a death but it seems like you want to cling to life the very life that could be taken from you any minute.

nope that don't sound insane to me lol its life get used to it

The Muslim being scared of death? nope have you not seen the news lately? we Muslim are not afraid of death, that's why it's hard to get rid of those who wish to die in battlefield

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


From a historical perspective the purpose seems to be to kill other people who dont support your religion since they have been warring over religion since the dawn of time.


nope it was not over religion it was over the human desire

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


From a historical perspective the purpose seems to be to kill other people who dont support your religion since they have been warring over religion since the dawn of time.


Yeah. The Egyptians totally went to war with the Nubians over Amon-Re, and the Trojan War was about Apollo v Apollo, and not at all about either Helen OR trade-routes.

Either the boldened part is true OR unknownelement is a liar.




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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


Ahhh so you are saying God..the almighty one is letting some evil slip in there,bit of child rape here..bit there,its all for the god of heaven..You too have now turned children into chess pieces.

You just have you're eyes on the prize,A place in Heaven..awwww,tell me E-14 lets say a memeber of you're family decides hes had enough and stops believing...BUT you're family want him in heaven because that is there Heaven to have all the family there...so who wins?Do you get the Heaven you desire..Or does God/Devil get his way and hes sent to hell...leaving your Heaven unfulfilled.



seriously you have some issues when you was a tiny bigot? is that why your fascinated by child rape?

I have never made a comment regarding children being killed, if you want to talk about that then we can look at your country of origin and see how much blood of children they have on their hands.

say my brother choose to turn away then that is his choice, he is not a child and he knows whats right and wrong, I'll try to convince him but if that fails then i'll let it be simple.

I doubt you follow any religion so I wont bother asking you the same question



What?I chose to see the world for what is,you think theres a guy in the sky moving pieces here and there..YOUR words were there has to be evil to make Heaven so good<----- you said that.


Ok..lets take some easy deaths for clean water,babies,kids die from drinking shitty water..where does that fit in?You saying god sometimes doesnt care?Is it every man for himself until heaven?

I have tried to figure it out,tried to make sense of it but theres none fecking there dood...its all wishful thinking and lots of hoping.



I know I said that and that is true.

look death is written down for you, the time the place what will you be doing and how will you die is written in your fate/destiny, say these kids die for a reason what ever the reason be their time of living has come to an end, don't get me wrong I does kill me inside to hear how these kids get caught up in wars and die as a result of cross fire.

man it's not wishful thinking, get your doubts out and think with a clear mind, you will see what I am talking about makes sense


LOL,Believe me its didnt get any clearer from your answer.

So now Heaven has a staff room,a staff room filed with files like

9month old..dies from being beaten by its mother.
1yr 2months...dies from drinking water with animal turds and human turds in it
1yr 5 months...burns to death in House fire.




Does that sound insane to you?Not even insane,does it sound like a wonderful system you just want to please?

One thing i get is all you lot are terrified of death..not exsisting,so you clamp onto this crud that could give you ever lasting life.Well done on brain washing yourself.



a death is a death but it seems like you want to cling to life the very life that could be taken from you any minute.

nope that don't sound insane to me lol its life get used to it

The Muslim being scared of death? nope have you not seen the news lately? we Muslim are not afraid of death, that's why it's hard to get rid of those who wish to die in battlefield


Yeah it certainly is steroids for the head,doesnt mean anything tho as Hypnotists could make you think you're a fecking chicken.

See..i told you hes insane,If you walked into a hospital and said Im being controlled by someone who has it written down how i live and die..you would be in a padded room,but religion gives a free pass ,until you cut a guys head off in a street lets say.


My death will be like the start of everything up to May 1974,in fact i know not existing better than i know existing.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


When in the known history of life has there been "no attackers"?

Even the myths that make up the foundations of organized religions "always" have an attacker... there is always an antagonist.

Religion gives "some people" a purpose in life certainly. And it gives those who claim a special relationship with the "all powerful" a very distinct way to control those people who have that "purpose" in their lives.

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When did religions get nuclear weapons?


The Church of England
EST by Saint Augustine of Canterbury in AD 597

First successful nuclear test: July 16, 1945

Snippet from Wikipedia....

"Today, the relationship with the United States represents the "most important bilateral partnership" in current British foreign policy, and the American foreign policy affirms its relationship with Britain as its most important bilateral relationship"

This historical relationship, and the large amount of influence UK scientists had on the Manhattan Project means that this was the first example of an established religion having access to nuclear weaponry.

Beyond that the following countries are known to have nuclear stockpiles...
United States
Russia
France
China
India
Pakistan <-- State established religion: Islam
North Korea
Israel

Unless otherwise notated the listed states do not have any one established religion. Yes that includes Israel. There is no law indicating Judaism to be a state established religion there. Although with nearly 80% of the population identifying as Jewish it's easy to see that the three major Abrahamic religions each have representatives with known nuclear weapons.


Hang on, so your idea of a religious body having access to nuclear armaments is that their nation of origin has some?


I'm not pointing out nations of origin. I'm pointing out nations that have state established religions. Meaning religious freedom in that nation is either forbidden or frowned upon. I'm pretty sure you'd have a hard time finding anything other than Muslims in Pakistan. Likewise, in the UK, even when the popularity of the Church of England is at all time lows, a full 59.5% of the population still profess to be christian. According to the 2011 census data. Well if we compare that with the ~72% from the 2001 census data and extrapolate backwards to the 1940's and '50s... you see where I'm going.

These are not countries of origin these are countries that are either consumed by or previously consumed by their own religious affiliations. The governments and leaders of these nations are HEAVILY influenced by religious doctrine. And although they may not be a member of the clergy I guarantee that each belongs to his country's religion.

By using these defining characteristics I could easily include other countries that are influenced heavily by religion and posses nuclear weaponry, but I'm being rather generous.


Considering that half of the world arsenal during the Cold War was held by Atheists I'd say you are engaging in outrageous slander.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


From a historical perspective the purpose seems to be to kill other people who dont support your religion since they have been warring over religion since the dawn of time.


Yeah. The Egyptians totally went to war with the Nubians over Amon-Re, and the Trojan War was about Apollo v Apollo, and not at all about either Helen OR trade-routes.

Either the boldened part is true OR unknownelemnet is a liar.




that has nothing to do with religion.. i said people been killing and warring with people of different relgions over their religions since beggining of time. i didnt say all wars were over religions. They are still warring over religion to this day just look at the middle east. look at the crusades, look throughout the bible and you will see hundreds of wars because of different religious beliefs.

More people been killed in the name of some fictional god then for any other reason since the dawn of history.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


From a historical perspective the purpose seems to be to kill other people who dont support your religion since they have been warring over religion since the dawn of time.


Yeah. The Egyptians totally went to war with the Nubians over Amon-Re, and the Trojan War was about Apollo v Apollo, and not at all about either Helen OR trade-routes.

Either the boldened part is true OR unknownelemnet is a liar.




that has nothing to do with religion.. i said people been killing and warring with people of different relgions over their religions since beggining of time. i didnt say all wars were over religions. They are still warring over religion to this day just look at the middle east. look at the crusades, look throughout the bible and you will see hundreds of wars because of different religious beliefs.



You did not mention other causes, you aluded to one and one only.
Suppressio veri, suggestio falsi.

Neither your statement nor your behaviour can be justified, and you deserve every form of execration possible.

More people been killed in the name of some fictional god then for any other reason since the damn of history.

Either prove this without delay, or you repeat the offense.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


Ahhh so you are saying God..the almighty one is letting some evil slip in there,bit of child rape here..bit there,its all for the god of heaven..You too have now turned children into chess pieces.

You just have you're eyes on the prize,A place in Heaven..awwww,tell me E-14 lets say a memeber of you're family decides hes had enough and stops believing...BUT you're family want him in heaven because that is there Heaven to have all the family there...so who wins?Do you get the Heaven you desire..Or does God/Devil get his way and hes sent to hell...leaving your Heaven unfulfilled.



seriously you have some issues when you was a tiny bigot? is that why your fascinated by child rape?

I have never made a comment regarding children being killed, if you want to talk about that then we can look at your country of origin and see how much blood of children they have on their hands.

say my brother choose to turn away then that is his choice, he is not a child and he knows whats right and wrong, I'll try to convince him but if that fails then i'll let it be simple.

I doubt you follow any religion so I wont bother asking you the same question



What?I chose to see the world for what is,you think theres a guy in the sky moving pieces here and there..YOUR words were there has to be evil to make Heaven so good<----- you said that.


Ok..lets take some easy deaths for clean water,babies,kids die from drinking shitty water..where does that fit in?You saying god sometimes doesnt care?Is it every man for himself until heaven?

I have tried to figure it out,tried to make sense of it but theres none fecking there dood...its all wishful thinking and lots of hoping.



I know I said that and that is true.

look death is written down for you, the time the place what will you be doing and how will you die is written in your fate/destiny, say these kids die for a reason what ever the reason be their time of living has come to an end, don't get me wrong I does kill me inside to hear how these kids get caught up in wars and die as a result of cross fire.

man it's not wishful thinking, get your doubts out and think with a clear mind, you will see what I am talking about makes sense


LOL,Believe me its didnt get any clearer from your answer.

So now Heaven has a staff room,a staff room filed with files like

9month old..dies from being beaten by its mother.
1yr 2months...dies from drinking water with animal turds and human turds in it
1yr 5 months...burns to death in House fire.




Does that sound insane to you?Not even insane,does it sound like a wonderful system you just want to please?

One thing i get is all you lot are terrified of death..not exsisting,so you clamp onto this crud that could give you ever lasting life.Well done on brain washing yourself.



a death is a death but it seems like you want to cling to life the very life that could be taken from you any minute.

nope that don't sound insane to me lol its life get used to it

The Muslim being scared of death? nope have you not seen the news lately? we Muslim are not afraid of death, that's why it's hard to get rid of those who wish to die in battlefield


Yeah it certainly is steroids for the head,doesnt mean anything tho as Hypnotists could make you think you're a fecking chicken.

See..i told you hes insane,If you walked into a hospital and said Im being controlled by someone who has it written down how i live and die..you would be in a padded room,but religion gives a free pass ,until you cut a guys head off in a street lets say.


My death will be like the start of everything up to May 1974,in fact i know not existing better than i know existing.[/quote]

I am insane lol? im the most sane person here thank you very muchreligion is not a burden but trying to live upto other people's expectation is a burden, I am pretty sure there are loads of people who kill in the name of religion I can point out a few if you want.

how would you know not existing better then existing? damn your old

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


From a historical perspective the purpose seems to be to kill other people who dont support your religion since they have been warring over religion since the dawn of time.


Yeah. The Egyptians totally went to war with the Nubians over Amon-Re, and the Trojan War was about Apollo v Apollo, and not at all about either Helen OR trade-routes.

Either the boldened part is true OR unknownelemnet is a liar.




that has nothing to do with religion.. i said people been killing and warring with people of different relgions over their religions since beggining of time. i didnt say all wars were over religions. They are still warring over religion to this day just look at the middle east. look at the crusades, look throughout the bible and you will see hundreds of wars because of different religious beliefs.



You did not mention other causes, you aluded to one and one only.
Suppressio veri, suggestio falsi.

Neither your statement nor your behaviour can be justified, and you deserve every form of execration possible.


1. that makes zero sense since i have not exibited any behavior.
2. my statement is totally justified since i was not talking about other causes or other wars, i was talking bout religious wars, and the way you are stating it is that their has been no wars over religion, no genocide over religion, no killing over religion.
3. Using a few big words doesnt make you smarter if you are too stupid to understand a simple statement in english. We are not talking bout wars in general, we are talking bout religious wars.
4. do you deny that there has been warring and killing over religion since the beginning of mankind?

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


When in the known history of life has there been "no attackers"?

Even the myths that make up the foundations of organized religions "always" have an attacker... there is always an antagonist.

Religion gives "some people" a purpose in life certainly. And it gives those who claim a special relationship with the "all powerful" a very distinct way to control those people who have that "purpose" in their lives.


there was a point in history where people lived in peace even in the middle east ask the orthodox Jews they will tell you,

those that claim to have a special relationship with God are the messengers and prophets but then again they are from the same tribe where they have been chosen to spread the word of God.

If religion is such a bad thing then shouldn't religion be declining? even with modern times but religion is increasing and you cant say they are blind of brainwashed, you cant brainwash millions

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Point out more nuts?Yeah do your worst,so how would you feel if some where its written down you die by another Muslim,dont tell me it doesnt happen.

Why do i keep getting a funny vision of god playing with you like action figures..its laughable.



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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


When in the known history of life has there been "no attackers"?

Even the myths that make up the foundations of organized religions "always" have an attacker... there is always an antagonist.

Religion gives "some people" a purpose in life certainly. And it gives those who claim a special relationship with the "all powerful" a very distinct way to control those people who have that "purpose" in their lives.


there was a point in history where people lived in peace even in the middle east ask the orthodox Jews they will tell you,

those that claim to have a special relationship with God are the messengers and prophets but then again they are from the same tribe where they have been chosen to spread the word of God.

If religion is such a bad thing then shouldn't religion be declining? even with modern times but religion is increasing and you cant say they are blind of brainwashed, you cant brainwash millions


According to myth... even in Eden there was an antagonist... in fact in many religions it was the ultimate antagonist... Satan.

I am not aware of any time where there has been "peace" when there was the notion of finite resources available and there was more than one human vying for those resources.

"You cant brainwash millions"...

I disagree.

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Point out more nuts?Yeah do your worst,so how would you feel if some where its written down you die by another Muslim,dont tell me it doesnt happen.

Why do i keep getting a funny vision of god playing with you like action figures..its laughable.



if I am destined to get killed by a fellow Muslim then by all means that is a good death for me and the worst news for my killer

you laugh at a stupid imagination but lets say what if I am right and your wrong

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Maybe if people stopped viewing a God as a human conscience and stopped viewing humanity as the centre of the universe than perhaps understanding the cosmological argument would be easier.

We are all startdust, as all matter is in our current universe, and we are destined to be recycled in perpetuity.

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Maybe if people stopped viewing a God as a human conscience and stopped viewing humanity as the centre of the universe than perhaps understanding the cosmological argument would be easier.

We are all startdust, as all matter is in our current universe, and we are destined to be recycled in perpetuity.


I'll drink to that.



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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


When in the known history of life has there been "no attackers"?

Even the myths that make up the foundations of organized religions "always" have an attacker... there is always an antagonist.

Religion gives "some people" a purpose in life certainly. And it gives those who claim a special relationship with the "all powerful" a very distinct way to control those people who have that "purpose" in their lives.


there was a point in history where people lived in peace even in the middle east ask the orthodox Jews they will tell you,

those that claim to have a special relationship with God are the messengers and prophets but then again they are from the same tribe where they have been chosen to spread the word of God.

If religion is such a bad thing then shouldn't religion be declining? even with modern times but religion is increasing and you cant say they are blind of brainwashed, you cant brainwash millions


According to myth... even in Eden there was an antagonist... in fact in many religions it was the ultimate antagonist... Satan.

I am not aware of any time where there has been "peace" when there was the notion of finite resources available and there was more than one human vying for those resources.

"You cant brainwash millions"...

I disagree.


yep satan unless you think he is a good guy

well if you open up the history books and you would see, peace was there before any world wars.

well you cant brainwash millions into believing in God, for people who don't believe in God they wont understand those that believe in God

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Point out more nuts?Yeah do your worst,so how would you feel if some where its written down you die by another Muslim,dont tell me it doesnt happen.

Why do i keep getting a funny vision of god playing with you like action figures..its laughable.



if I am destined to get killed by a fellow Muslim then by all means that is a good death for me and the worst news for my killer

you laugh at a stupid imagination but lets say what if I am right and your wrong


Ok,what happens if your killer has a family that want him in heaven because that is there heaven,tell me,does he get to go?

No,well thats not very good is it,you live good,do good things and god doesnt give you the heaven you wanted because he just happened to write something else down.

If i wrong then he will be the joker arsehole i portrayed him ass,he can kiss my ass hole as he sends me to hell eh...whatever makes you feel good,I know you lot love the hell bit,makes you feel like you picked the right team.

Well way way way back when we all, started being in the right group mattered,mattered a lot because being in the wrong/weaker group got you dead,thats all this is..a need to be (think)you're in the right group.

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


When in the known history of life has there been "no attackers"?

Even the myths that make up the foundations of organized religions "always" have an attacker... there is always an antagonist.

Religion gives "some people" a purpose in life certainly. And it gives those who claim a special relationship with the "all powerful" a very distinct way to control those people who have that "purpose" in their lives.


there was a point in history where people lived in peace even in the middle east ask the orthodox Jews they will tell you,

those that claim to have a special relationship with God are the messengers and prophets but then again they are from the same tribe where they have been chosen to spread the word of God.

If religion is such a bad thing then shouldn't religion be declining? even with modern times but religion is increasing and you cant say they are blind of brainwashed, you cant brainwash millions


According to myth... even in Eden there was an antagonist... in fact in many religions it was the ultimate antagonist... Satan.

I am not aware of any time where there has been "peace" when there was the notion of finite resources available and there was more than one human vying for those resources.

"You cant brainwash millions"...

I disagree.


yep satan unless you think he is a good guy

well if you open up the history books and you would see, peace was there before any world wars.

well you cant brainwash millions into believing in God, for people who don't believe in God they wont understand those that believe in God


I don't think Satan is any kind of guy... good or bad.

Not sure which history books you have been reading, not to mention history predates mans ability to write it in books... and even if it was written in a book, who wrote the book? The victors get to write the book.

I understand those who believe in God. I understand that it gives people hope. But I also understand that it is possible for that hope to be manipulated.

E-14... I hope you have a wonderful, productive, peaceful, and happy New Year, and I hope for the same for all.

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Point out more nuts?Yeah do your worst,so how would you feel if some where its written down you die by another Muslim,dont tell me it doesnt happen.

Why do i keep getting a funny vision of god playing with you like action figures..its laughable.



if I am destined to get killed by a fellow Muslim then by all means that is a good death for me and the worst news for my killer

you laugh at a stupid imagination but lets say what if I am right and your wrong


Ok,what happens if your killer has a family that want him in heaven because that is there heaven,tell me,does he get to go?

No,well thats not very good is it,you live good,do good things and god doesnt give you the heaven you wanted because he just happened to write something else down.

If i wrong then he will be the joker arsehole i portrayed him ass,he can kiss my ass hole as he sends me to hell eh...whatever makes you feel good,I know you lot love the hell bit,makes you feel like you picked the right team.

Well way way way back when we all, started being in the right group mattered,mattered a lot because being in the wrong/weaker group got you dead,thats all this is..a need to be (think)you're in the right group.


then the term repenting comes into play he will have all his life to repent then maybe if God decides then he will be up in heaven.

lol you make it sound like hell is an ideal place for you, it shows how far you aim in life.

as for the right team I wont know until im standing in front of God, this is all about people who don't fathom the idea of being created by a higher being.

if I told you that a glass of just appeared out of now where then you would say for the glass to exist it needs to be made by someone so why cant the same concept be applied to human and the universe?

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it's not only in Islam, all the majority of religion says the good will go heaven the bad will go hell and I very much doubt that your a Muslim


Why?Because you say so..you're fecking idiot,the same guy who was saying the end of the world could be foretold in the buttocks of women,you crazy ass looney you.


If anyone religious person can tell me where child rape fits into Gods plan,we know it goes on so where does child suffering fit into gods plan?Iv been told before kids dying of starvation and even from not getting clean enough water were 'meaningful' deaths..in other words kids are things and get moved or played like chess pieces,makes my head spin how people can do the mental gymnastics to not only believe but think its all such a beautiful thing...awwwwww.


lol look at you buthurt much?

why the f**k is child rape in this for? if you cant stick to topic piss off unless your into child rape and jack off to things like that?

if the OP cannot grasp the understanding of heaven and hell then he must be a dumbf**k like you, but clearly he is a troll


He's adressing the existence of Good and Evil - especially asking how it is possible that Evil exists in the first place. That is hardly off-topic for if God had opted to create a Universe without Evil, His attribute of Mercifulness would not come into play.

But that - again - raises a whole bunch of questions,such as: is there meaningfulness in Evil?
Could God be good in the absence of Evil?


well if there was just good in this world then heaven would loose it's meaning, if you believe in any of the three major religion then you would understand where evil comes from, we humans have our own deep darkest desires and along with the satan we are always in a constant struggle and for that struggle we are rewarded and those who commit evil and corruption get to taste hell.

God is merciful, do you think he becomes less when he forgives people? no he will forgive you if you turn to him


I know the Where. I find your offered 'why' too glib.

lol funny guy, I rather be brainwashed then live with a mentality like yours

Indeed, that its the point in treating human character as software - to be overwritten as needed.


you should really work for microsoft, thats why the world can never be at peace


the world has never been and will never be at peace, since the beggining of time man has been fighting over the better watering hole and whose god has the biggest penis.


there was peace until certain people think they can control and take over the waterhole and then those who defend the innocent rise up


And then they (the defenders of the innocent) control the waterhole, and voila... the whole cycle starts again.

Only those who are privy to the esoteric knowledge of the divine creator can even fathom the power and glory that is... or so the privy would have us believe.

Organized religion is nothing more than a control mechanism, as Darthbrogo has pointed out. It is nothing more than the radiation/chemotherapy needed to control and eliminate the cancer that is FREE WILL.

Unfortunately, like radiation and chemotherapy, the cure (organized religion) is often just as bad, and sometimes worse than the cancer.



if there was no attackers then there would never be any defenders but there is someone who wants everything.

religion gives you a purpose in life, you either see it or you don't


When in the known history of life has there been "no attackers"?

Even the myths that make up the foundations of organized religions "always" have an attacker... there is always an antagonist.

Religion gives "some people" a purpose in life certainly. And it gives those who claim a special relationship with the "all powerful" a very distinct way to control those people who have that "purpose" in their lives.


there was a point in history where people lived in peace even in the middle east ask the orthodox Jews they will tell you,

those that claim to have a special relationship with God are the messengers and prophets but then again they are from the same tribe where they have been chosen to spread the word of God.

If religion is such a bad thing then shouldn't religion be declining? even with modern times but religion is increasing and you cant say they are blind of brainwashed, you cant brainwash millions


According to myth... even in Eden there was an antagonist... in fact in many religions it was the ultimate antagonist... Satan.

I am not aware of any time where there has been "peace" when there was the notion of finite resources available and there was more than one human vying for those resources.

"You cant brainwash millions"...

I disagree.


yep satan unless you think he is a good guy

well if you open up the history books and you would see, peace was there before any world wars.

well you cant brainwash millions into believing in God, for people who don't believe in God they wont understand those that believe in God


I don't think Satan is any kind of guy... good or bad.

Not sure which history books you have been reading, not to mention history predates mans ability to write it in books... and even if it was written in a book, who wrote the book? The victors get to write the book.

I understand those who believe in God. I understand that it gives people hope. But I also understand that it is possible for that hope to be manipulated.

E-14... I hope you have a wonderful, productive, peaceful, and happy New Year, and I hope for the same for all.[/quote]

same here I hope that you have a peaceful year and stay safe and sound, just cause you dislike my idea or vice versa it don't mean I hold any grudges against any one here, its nice to banter here in fact it gives me a better chance to research and gain more knowledge and put it in front of you guys.

satan is the type of guy who acts as your friend but when your down he kicks you in the head, I am sure you had people like that in your life.

As I told you ask those who lived in that area they will tell you.

those who manipulate in the name of God are scum whether they are Muslim or from any other religion

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^^ For some having belief in causal God does not offer hope, it simply is a reflection of their understanding of what may be a truism. Its not about religion, its about an appreciation for what the universe is and beyond.

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Point out more nuts?Yeah do your worst,so how would you feel if some where its written down you die by another Muslim,dont tell me it doesnt happen.

Why do i keep getting a funny vision of god playing with you like action figures..its laughable.



if I am destined to get killed by a fellow Muslim then by all means that is a good death for me and the worst news for my killer

you laugh at a stupid imagination but lets say what if I am right and your wrong


Ok,what happens if your killer has a family that want him in heaven because that is there heaven,tell me,does he get to go?

No,well thats not very good is it,you live good,do good things and god doesnt give you the heaven you wanted because he just happened to write something else down.

If i wrong then he will be the joker arsehole i portrayed him ass,he can kiss my ass hole as he sends me to hell eh...whatever makes you feel good,I know you lot love the hell bit,makes you feel like you picked the right team.

Well way way way back when we all, started being in the right group mattered,mattered a lot because being in the wrong/weaker group got you dead,thats all this is..a need to be (think)you're in the right group.


then the term repenting comes into play he will have all his life to repent then maybe if God decides then he will be up in heaven.

lol you make it sound like hell is an ideal place for you, it shows how far you aim in life.

as for the right team I wont know until im standing in front of God, this is all about people who don't fathom the idea of being created by a higher being.

if I told you that a glass of just appeared out of now where then you would say for the glass to exist it needs to be made by someone so why cant the same concept be applied to human and the universe?


LOL..why did you bring that last bit up..my child like common sense battering you're god argument.

Sure..you could be wrong too..just the wishing the hell on me might be enough to sway you're Hell trip and ill see you there.

So Heaven isnt you're Heaven (you're words) its gods heaven,and will con tain who he wishes it to contain..whatta guy,i can sure see why you think hes so great and all...reminds me of when i was a teenager.
Yep it does some good,You for example sound like you could be a killing,maiming machine if it wasnt for god keeping you incheck..where as my caring,giving side comes naturally.

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