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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:22:08
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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.


ah yes its not like the land was taken from them and given to the jews by the British Balfour declaration much?.

and yeah the jews where all happy till tel aviv got hit lol then what happened they wanted to go in Gaza on foot but stped out fearing that they would get massacred *cough*hitler**cough* style again

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:23:52
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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.


ah yes its not like the land was taken from them and given to the jews by the British Balfour declaration much?.

and yeah the jews where all happy till tel aviv got hit lol then what happened they wanted to go in Gaza on foot but stped out fearing that they would get massacred *cough*hitler**cough* style again


hmm couldnt your imaginary god prevent given them the land back?
If they were so powerful wouldnt they take their land back instead of living on throwaway garbage land given to them as a territory and not as a country recognized by anyone outside of the arab league?

israel could smash palestine in a hearbeat just like they have any other arab country they fought

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:26:15
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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.


ah yes its not like the land was taken from them and given to the jews by the British Balfour declaration much?.

and yeah the jews where all happy till tel aviv got hit lol then what happened they wanted to go in Gaza on foot but stped out fearing that they would get massacred *cough*hitler**cough* style again


hmm couldnt your imaginary god prevent given them the land back?


If you know anything about the jews, they should not have a holy land and hell they even agree, everything has a reason and I know God has his reason

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:28:27
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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.


ah yes its not like the land was taken from them and given to the jews by the British Balfour declaration much?.

and yeah the jews where all happy till tel aviv got hit lol then what happened they wanted to go in Gaza on foot but stped out fearing that they would get massacred *cough*hitler**cough* style again


hmm couldnt your imaginary god prevent given them the land back?


If you know anything about the jews, they should not have a holy land and hell they even agree, everything has a reason and I know God has his reason


i know the jews kicked your asses our of israel.. and yes here we go with the vague " god has a plan" bullshit. i guess his plan is for the palestinians to get kicked out of israel onto what amounts to nothing more then what we call in america a reservation

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:32:14
i guess your gods plan was to have the jews be the superpower of the region

from looks of it the jewish god is much more powerful then the muslim god since the jewish state of israel has beat the living piss out of every muslim nation that tried to attack it.

your make believe god and his make believe plan are doing so great for the people of that region i see.

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:42:51
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i guess your gods plan was to have the jews be the superpower of the region

from looks of it the jewish god is much more powerful then the muslim god since the jewish state of israel has beat the living piss out of every muslim nation that tried to attack it.

your make believe god and his make believe plan are doing so great for the people of that region i see.


lol funny guy, the jews would be nothing with out the super powers such as USA backing it up, and do you honestly believe that Iran don't want to nuke it back to hell?

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:45:58
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i guess your gods plan was to have the jews be the superpower of the region

from looks of it the jewish god is much more powerful then the muslim god since the jewish state of israel has beat the living piss out of every muslim nation that tried to attack it.

your make believe god and his make believe plan are doing so great for the people of that region i see.


lol funny guy, the jews would be nothing with out the super powers such as USA backing it up, and do you honestly believe that Iran don't want to nuke it back to hell?


so your saying USA is stronger then your god then.
so your saying mere mortals are more powerful then your god..
couldnt your god give iran a nuke?
Iran can shit in one hand and want in the other and one hand will always be empty

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:47:36
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i guess your gods plan was to have the jews be the superpower of the region

from looks of it the jewish god is much more powerful then the muslim god since the jewish state of israel has beat the living piss out of every muslim nation that tried to attack it.

your make believe god and his make believe plan are doing so great for the people of that region i see.


lol funny guy, the jews would be nothing with out the super powers such as USA backing it up, and do you honestly believe that Iran don't want to nuke it back to hell?


so your saying USA is stronger then your god then.
so your saying mere mortals are more powerful then your god..


lol now where did I say that?

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:51:11
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i guess your gods plan was to have the jews be the superpower of the region

from looks of it the jewish god is much more powerful then the muslim god since the jewish state of israel has beat the living piss out of every muslim nation that tried to attack it.

your make believe god and his make believe plan are doing so great for the people of that region i see.


lol funny guy, the jews would be nothing with out the super powers such as USA backing it up, and do you honestly believe that Iran don't want to nuke it back to hell?


so your saying USA is stronger then your god then.
so your saying mere mortals are more powerful then your god..


lol now where did I say that?

well you said the usa is the reason israel is more powerful. is your god on vacation and cant put the palestinians in power. i would think the power of a god would be more powerful then mere men.


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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:58:33
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i guess your gods plan was to have the jews be the superpower of the region

from looks of it the jewish god is much more powerful then the muslim god since the jewish state of israel has beat the living piss out of every muslim nation that tried to attack it.

your make believe god and his make believe plan are doing so great for the people of that region i see.


lol funny guy, the jews would be nothing with out the super powers such as USA backing it up, and do you honestly believe that Iran don't want to nuke it back to hell?


so your saying USA is stronger then your god then.
so your saying mere mortals are more powerful then your god..


lol now where did I say that?

well you said the usa is the reason israel is more powerful. is your god on vacation and cant put the palestinians in power. i would think the power of a god would be more powerful then mere men.


there you go if I said USA is more powerful then God then what you say would makes sense but like always you just chat shit

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 14:36:43
Its 1400 yrs he got some typing mistake i assume.

Prophet Muhammad was born after Jesus and Quran was revealed after that.


Think i would like to point out is ,you people act blind, just close your eyes when your heart beats the truth.

i am wondering which point is refuted hear. please explain

Which verse is well refuted .

I want you people to study about Islam a little bit.. Lear from the Muslims, not from anyone else .









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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 15:11:33
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Its 1400 yrs he got some typing mistake i assume.

Prophet Muhammad was born after Jesus and Quran was revealed after that.


Think i would like to point out is ,you people act blind, just close your eyes when your heart beats the truth.

i am wondering which point is refuted hear. please explain

Which verse is well refuted .

I want you people to study about Islam a little bit.. Lear from the Muslims, not from anyone else .









:)


your 100% correct it is 1400 years, and i knew that from the start since the quran was revealed to mohammed in the year 610. It was just funny watching people who call themselves muslims like e-14 argue it was 14,000 years, shame he doesnt even know the history of his own religion.

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 15:29:28
Since you guys are going South with the topic, mind arguing bout other countries in crisis?

If you can't blow them away with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.
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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 15:48:22
Allah has sent down about 125000 prophets to different parts of the world. Moses, Joseph, Abraham, Jesus (Biblical names) where prophets of Islam of which Muhammad (P B U H) last one of them.

I.e the First person to earth was Adam and Hawa(Eve)and Adam was also a prophet. Muslims never believe in Darwin's theorem which contradicts aspects of human creations in Quran.



Even modern scientists prove Darwin theory no longer poses valid


If any one Like to know anything about Islam PM me , i can help. The debate going on here no longer favors good to both sides but just creating some harassment nothing more. Be Patient brothers

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 16:57:15
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Its 1400 yrs he got some typing mistake i assume.

Prophet Muhammad was born after Jesus and Quran was revealed after that.


Think i would like to point out is ,you people act blind, just close your eyes when your heart beats the truth.

i am wondering which point is refuted hear. please explain

Which verse is well refuted .

I want you people to study about Islam a little bit.. Lear from the Muslims, not from anyone else .









:)


your 100% correct it is 1400 years, and i knew that from the start since the quran was revealed to mohammed in the year 610. It was just funny watching people who call themselves muslims like e-14 argue it was 14,000 years, shame he doesnt even know the history of his own religion.


Haha dumbass I knew it was 1400 years ago, just arguing with you for fun plus the Quran states that the civilization was not as how you describe it

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 17:15:56
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Its 1400 yrs he got some typing mistake i assume.

Prophet Muhammad was born after Jesus and Quran was revealed after that.


Think i would like to point out is ,you people act blind, just close your eyes when your heart beats the truth.

i am wondering which point is refuted hear. please explain

Which verse is well refuted .

I want you people to study about Islam a little bit.. Lear from the Muslims, not from anyone else .









:)


your 100% correct it is 1400 years, and i knew that from the start since the quran was revealed to mohammed in the year 610. It was just funny watching people who call themselves muslims like e-14 argue it was 14,000 years, shame he doesnt even know the history of his own religion.


Haha dumbass I knew it was 1400 years ago, just arguing with you for fun plus the Quran states that the civilization was not as how you describe it


way to backtrack.

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 17:21:17
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Its 1400 yrs he got some typing mistake i assume.

Prophet Muhammad was born after Jesus and Quran was revealed after that.


Think i would like to point out is ,you people act blind, just close your eyes when your heart beats the truth.

i am wondering which point is refuted hear. please explain

Which verse is well refuted .

I want you people to study about Islam a little bit.. Lear from the Muslims, not from anyone else .









:)


your 100% correct it is 1400 years, and i knew that from the start since the quran was revealed to mohammed in the year 610. It was just funny watching people who call themselves muslims like e-14 argue it was 14,000 years, shame he doesnt even know the history of his own religion.


Haha dumbass I knew it was 1400 years ago, just arguing with you for fun plus the Quran states that the civilization was not as how you describe it


way to backtrack.


Maybe you could backtrack and see if you can find where you left your brain

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 18:28:36
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God is mercyfull if you humble yourself before him.

ie: put your ego aside and admit your failings to yourself and to God, and mercy will come.


first ya gotta find him before you can "humble yourself before him" otherwise you're likely to be doing it in the middle of the street or something and get run over but hey you believe in god so a little broken bones or dieing ain't much

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 18:37:56
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God is mercyfull if you humble yourself before him.

ie: put your ego aside and admit your failings to yourself and to God, and mercy will come.


first ya gotta find him before you can "humble yourself before him" otherwise you're likely to be doing it in the middle of the street or something and get run over but hey you believe in god so a little broken bones or dieing ain't much


What if he is there and your searching at the wrong place? And I am sure people cross the road carefully

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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.


ah yes its not like the land was taken from them and given to the jews by the British Balfour declaration much?.

and yeah the jews where all happy till tel aviv got hit lol then what happened they wanted to go in Gaza on foot but stped out fearing that they would get massacred *cough*hitler**cough* style again






Perhaps blame the arabs that sell the land to Israel alot of them do have been for many decades.


The Mufti tells the truth: The Arabs sold the land to the Jews

The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj al-Amin al-Husseini, will never be accused of loving Jews. In fact, 70 years ago today, the Mufti, who was Yasser Arafat's uncle, met with Adolph Hitler in Berlin to discuss the 'final solution' to the 'Jewish problem.'

In 1937, the Mufti testified before the Peel Commission, which was looking into the causes of unrest between Jews and Arabs in what was then known as 'Palestine.' The Mufti made a stunning admission: Most of the land that belonged to the Jews, which we are constantly accused of 'stealing,' had actually been purchased by the Jews from the Arabs. And the Arabs were what we lawyers call willing sellers.



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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.


ah yes its not like the land was taken from them and given to the jews by the British Balfour declaration much?.

and yeah the jews where all happy till tel aviv got hit lol then what happened they wanted to go in Gaza on foot but stped out fearing that they would get massacred *cough*hitler**cough* style again






Perhaps blame the arabs that sell the land to Israel alot of them do have been for many decades.


The Mufti tells the truth: The Arabs sold the land to the Jews

The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj al-Amin al-Husseini, will never be accused of loving Jews. In fact, 70 years ago today, the Mufti, who was Yasser Arafat's uncle, met with Adolph Hitler in Berlin to discuss the 'final solution' to the 'Jewish problem.'

In 1937, the Mufti testified before the Peel Commission, which was looking into the causes of unrest between Jews and Arabs in what was then known as 'Palestine.' The Mufti made a stunning admission: Most of the land that belonged to the Jews, which we are constantly accused of 'stealing,' had actually been purchased by the Jews from the Arabs. And the Arabs were what we lawyers call willing sellers.


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Posted on Thu Dec 26, 2013 01:57:28
Meh. Selling real estate does not create sovereignty.
So it's weak sauce.

Sovereignty is not created but established.
It's established by exercising it - for a long enough period.
This is known as Prescription.

When it comes to Sovereignty, Might defines Right.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccAd0Cz48IA

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Posted on Thu Dec 26, 2013 02:07:04
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The Mufti tells the truth: The Arabs sold the land to the Jews


Mufti is non-school unifom day...so yea, i guess that makes you wrong about everything.

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Posted on Thu Dec 26, 2013 02:10:31
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The Mufti tells the truth: The Arabs sold the land to the Jews


Mufti is non-school unifom day...so yea, i guess that makes you wrong about everything.




en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mufti_of_Jerusalem
British Mandate

When Palestine was under British occupation, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a position appointed by the British Mandate authorities.

When Kamil al-Husayni died in 1921, the British High Commissioner Herbert Samuel appointed Mohammad Amin al-Husayni to the position. Amin al-Husayni, a member of the al-Husayni clan of Jerusalem, was an Arab nationalist and Muslim leader in the British Mandate of Palestine. As Grand Mufti, as well as the other influential positions that he held during this period, al-Husayni played a key role in violent opposition to Zionism. In 1948, after Jordan occupied Jerusalem, Abdullah I of Jordan officially removed al-Husayni from the post, banned him from entering Jerusalem, and appointed Hussam Al-din Jarallah as Grand Mufti. When Jarallah died in 1954, no Grand Mufti was appointed until 1993.



You were saying?





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Posted on Thu Dec 26, 2013 02:19:43
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Meh. Selling real estate does not create sovereignty.
So it's weak sauce.

Sovereignty is not created but established.
It's established by exercising it - for a long enough period.
This is known as Prescription.

When it comes to Sovereignty, Might defines Right.





The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine. The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181(II).[2]

Part I of the Plan contained provisions dealing with the Termination of the Mandate, Partition and Independence. The Mandate would be terminated as soon as possible and the United Kingdom would withdraw from Palestine no later than the previously announced date of 1 August 1948. The new states would come into existence two months after the withdrawal, but no later than 1 October 1948. The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims of two competing movements: Arab nationalism and Jewish nationalism, known as Zionism. Part II of the Plan included a detailed description of the proposed boundaries for each state.

rather your arguement is the weak sauce




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Posted on Thu Dec 26, 2013 02:26:54
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The Mufti tells the truth: The Arabs sold the land to the Jews


Mufti is non-school unifom day...so yea, i guess that makes you wrong about everything.




en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mufti_of_Jerusalem
British Mandate

When Palestine was under British occupation, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a position appointed by the British Mandate authorities.

When Kamil al-Husayni died in 1921, the British High Commissioner Herbert Samuel appointed Mohammad Amin al-Husayni to the position. Amin al-Husayni, a member of the al-Husayni clan of Jerusalem, was an Arab nationalist and Muslim leader in the British Mandate of Palestine. As Grand Mufti, as well as the other influential positions that he held during this period, al-Husayni played a key role in violent opposition to Zionism. In 1948, after Jordan occupied Jerusalem, Abdullah I of Jordan officially removed al-Husayni from the post, banned him from entering Jerusalem, and appointed Hussam Al-din Jarallah as Grand Mufti. When Jarallah died in 1954, no Grand Mufti was appointed until 1993.



You were saying?










Al-Husseini was the scion of a family of Jerusalemite notables.[5] After receiving an education in Islamic, Ottoman and Catholic schools, he went on to serve in the Ottoman army in World War I. At war's end, he positioned himself in Damascus as a supporter of the Arab Kingdom of Syria. Following the fiasco of the Franco-Syrian War and the collapse of the Arab Hashemite rule in Damascus, his early position on pan-Arabism shifted to a form of local nationalism for Palestinian Arabs and he moved back to Jerusalem. From as early as 1920, in order to secure the independence of Palestine as an Arab state he actively opposed Zionism, and was implicated as a leader of a violent riot that broke out over the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine.[6] Al-Husseini was sentenced to ten years imprisonment, but was pardoned by the British.

Many observers saw al-Husseini as the mastermind behind the riots, accusing him of dispatching secret emissaries to inflame regional passions [citation]. In London, Lord Melchett demanded his arrest for orchestrating all anti-British unrest throughout the Middle East. Consular documentation discarded the plot thesis rapidly, and identified the deeper cause as political, not religious, namely in what the Palin report had earlier identified[89] as profound Arab discontent over Zionism. Arab memoirs on the fitna (troubles) follow a contemporary proclamation for the Defence of the Wall on 31 August, which justified the riots as legitimate, but nowhere mention a coordinated plan. Izzat Darwaza, an Arab nationalist rival of al-Husseini, alone asserts, without details, that al-Husseini was responsible.

O yeah he seems pro british

you were saying ?





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Meh. Selling real estate does not create sovereignty.
So it's weak sauce.

Sovereignty is not created but established.
It's established by exercising it - for a long enough period.
This is known as Prescription.

When it comes to Sovereignty, Might defines Right.





The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine. The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181(II).[2]

Part I of the Plan contained provisions dealing with the Termination of the Mandate, Partition and Independence. The Mandate would be terminated as soon as possible and the United Kingdom would withdraw from Palestine no later than the previously announced date of 1 August 1948. The new states would come into existence two months after the withdrawal, but no later than 1 October 1948. The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims of two competing movements: Arab nationalism and Jewish nationalism, known as Zionism. Part II of the Plan included a detailed description of the proposed boundaries for each state.

rather your arguement is the weak sauce



Exactly how does the UN have the right to establish sovereignty?
A plan is just that - a plan.

[qupte]The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims of two competing movements: Arab nationalism and Jewish nationalism, known as Zionism. [/quote]
An objective does not make for a valid territorial claim.

Inasmuch as the entire basis for the existence of the Arab - specifically Sunni ones - outside of the Hejjaz is spurious, I see [ of course ] no need to psay the slightest attentiont Arab claims outside of the Hejjaz in the first place.


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I've been having doubts over my religion, Islam, and was wondering if anyone else in the same boat. Lately, i've been doing some research on Islam and there were a few contradictions that cropped up.

one example was the phrase 'God is most merciful'. well if God is most merciful, why is there a place called hell?

Anyone enlighten me with their opinion and their view on religion; i'm a lost soul


Hell is for the bad guys and based on what i saw. You are turning into those guys. Seriously,stop and take a look back. Do a lot of prayers.

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I've been having doubts over my religion, Islam, and was wondering if anyone else in the same boat. Lately, i've been doing some research on Islam and there were a few contradictions that cropped up.

one example was the phrase 'God is most merciful'. well if God is most merciful, why is there a place called hell?

Anyone enlighten me with their opinion and their view on religion; i'm a lost soul


Hell is for the bad guys and based on what i saw. You are turning into those guys. Seriously,stop and take a look back. Do a lot of prayers.


So a guy has a few doubts and(you think) Allah burns him forever and ever in 'Hell'...christ you lot are tense

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Posted on Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:45:32
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Allah has sent down about 125000 prophets to different parts of the world. Moses, Joseph, Abraham, Jesus (Biblical names) where prophets of Islam of which Muhammad (P B U H) last one of them.

I.e the First person to earth was Adam and Hawa(Eve)and Adam was also a prophet. Muslims never believe in Darwin's theorem which contradicts aspects of human creations in Quran.



Even modern scientists prove Darwin theory no longer poses valid



If any one Like to know anything about Islam PM me , i can help. The debate going on here no longer favors good to both sides but just creating some harassment nothing more. Be Patient brothers


It's actually hilarious when you believe that. What bullshit news channel has you brainwashed into thinking that?
Religious people are so funny. The sooner religion leaves this planet the better. Maybe then man can start to go down a more peaceful and intelligent path and put an end to this backward cavemanish era.

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