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Posted on Tue Dec 24, 2013 23:25:09
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wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.


Well I did do my research and there was no cavemen


before what? maybe you should soldier yourself to writing coherent sentences


Ops should pay more attention, the theory of evolution is rubbish


i never stated anything about evolution, i just stated something that is a fact which is at 14000 years ago man was wild and ferel and refered to as cavemen. Archeology has proven this. what is your proof besides stating crap from some religion that was only founded 1500 years ago.


There are feral children are they known as caveman? , it's true that Times has changed and society is more modern but to say that humans where like animals is stupid.

The religion that was founded 1500 Years ago has proven what scientists find out now


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Posted on Tue Dec 24, 2013 23:40:27
nevermind im not gonna sit here and argue with someone who is to ignorant to accept fact, when they have skeletons from that age of neanderthal men which was different from homo sapiens, there is no evidence anywhere of civilization till 7000 years ago, go back into your little tiny shell of ignorance where there is no proof of anything. your religion hasnt proven anything...

let me guess dinosaurs are make believe to, so where all the wooly mammoths and other animals that lived for millions of years.

i guess you think some invisible being made man out of mud and clay huh.

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Posted on Tue Dec 24, 2013 23:52:20
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nevermind im not gonna sit here and argue with someone who is to ignorant to accept fact, when they have skeletons from that age of neanderthal men which was different from homo sapiens, there is no evidence anywhere of civilization till 7000 years ago, go back into your little tiny shell of ignorance where there is no proof of anything. your religion hasnt proven anything...

let me guess dinosaurs are make believe to, so where all the wooly mammoths and other animals that lived for millions of years.

i guess you think some invisible being made man out of mud and clay huh.


You realise calling someone ignorant when you yourself are ignorant kind of devalues the insult, right?

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 00:30:52
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nevermind im not gonna sit here and argue with someone who is to ignorant to accept fact, when they have skeletons from that age of neanderthal men which was different from homo sapiens, there is no evidence anywhere of civilization till 7000 years ago, go back into your little tiny shell of ignorance where there is no proof of anything. your religion hasnt proven anything...

let me guess dinosaurs are make believe to, so where all the wooly mammoths and other animals that lived for millions of years.

i guess you think some invisible being made man out of mud and clay huh.


You realise calling someone ignorant when you yourself are ignorant kind of devalues the insult, right?


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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 02:08:39
why does it always have to be science vs. religion? evolution vs. creation? isn't it quite possible that it could be both?

religion = the what
science = the how

if you subscribe to we are created in his image, and we are flawed(which isn't even debatable), then it would explain why nature is flawed in ways itself.

and you cant argue the timeline that is told in scripture since time is abstract. if one year is 7 dog years why cant 1 millennia etc be one day?



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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 02:51:44
By generally accepted terminology, Civilisation includes a system of writing.
The implications of that are pretty clear - excpt to barbarians with their inherent lack of understanding of Civilisation.

Either 14,000 year old written sources exist, or they do not.






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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 03:12:57
they did not exist unless you include cave paintings

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 03:27:42
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


I said written sources, not paintings.

When I say writing, I mean symbology that encapsulates language.

This Is A Sentence = written language.

2+2=4 does not encapsulate language, and does not count.

Neither does RM-010.gif which likewise does not encapsulate language.


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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 04:23:10
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


I said written sources, not paintings.

When I say writing, I mean symbology that encapsulates language.

This Is A Sentence = written language.

2+2=4 does not encapsulate language, and does not count.

Neither does RM-010.gif which likewise does not encapsulate language.


exactly my point from the beggining, there wasnt any writing or civilization 14000 years ago like e-14 thinks their was.

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THEORY OF PROBABILITY

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.


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www.irf.net/Atheism.html


Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.


well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe



see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.


They are complete bullshit. There is not one example of a religious book making predictions like nuclear weapons. However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.

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if one year is 7 dog years why cant 1 millennia etc be one day?


Because each requires a point of reference. One year is to 7 dog years because we can compare the lifespan of a dog to that of a human being. Biblical timelines have no point of reference and therefore cannot be substantiated in such a way. There is no metric of comparison, and any attempt to do so is a complete guess.

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 09:51:27
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


I said written sources, not paintings.

When I say writing, I mean symbology that encapsulates language.

This Is A Sentence = written language.

2+2=4 does not encapsulate language, and does not count.

Neither does RM-010.gif which likewise does not encapsulate language.


exactly my point from the beggining, there wasnt any writing or civilization 14000 years ago like e-14 thinks their was.


Personally, I found nothing quite so hilarious as his assumption that personal experience would be needed to asess the truth of the claim.


Like, not when it coms to a phenomnon which has as one of its main characteristics.... WRITTEN COMMUNICATION.


Yabbbadabbadoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:50:22
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THEORY OF PROBABILITY

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.


source

www.irf.net/Atheism.html


Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.


well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe



see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or constructoet confused and could have not clkbowledge is utterly stupid.


let him be he is useful as sending monkeys to pick up your car from a garage


Crackers..stupid?Stupid is saying i know the signs of the earth ending and 1 of them is womens buttocks moving weird.

Religious Nigerian scam..

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:54:13
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THEORY OF PROBABILITY

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.


source

www.irf.net/Atheism.html


Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.


well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe



see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or constructoet confused and could have not clkbowledge is utterly stupid.


let him be he is useful as sending monkeys to pick up your car from a garage


Crackers..stupid?Stupid is saying i know the signs of the earth ending and 1 of them is womens buttocks moving weird.

Religious Nigerian scam..


you into Nigerians now damn first it was child rape and now this

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:55:47
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


well you do not know that what if they got destroyed with time? you assume if its all documented it exists but your feeble mind cannot think outside the box and say it may have existed but not any more

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:03:37
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


well you do not know that what if they got destroyed with time? you assume if its all documented it exists but your feeble mind cannot think outside the box and say it may have existed but not any more


Why wouldn't they have written on their cave paintings? That's a fairly flaky argument.


This thread is ridiculous from start to finish.

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:07:32
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


well you do not know that what if they got destroyed with time? you assume if its all documented it exists but your feeble mind cannot think outside the box and say it may have existed but not any more


Why wouldn't they have written on their cave paintings? That's a fairly flaky argument.


This thread is ridiculous from start to finish.


well I don't know maybe I'll go go back 14000yrs ago and ask them, with this kind of things there is always the what if question

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:09:30
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


well you do not know that what if they got destroyed with time? you assume if its all documented it exists but your feeble mind cannot think outside the box and say it may have existed but not any more


So every bit of it was destroyed and not one specimen of it survived your saying. Even so almost every scholar and every bit of proof dates the beginnings of writings to 3400 bc for chinese characters and to 3200 bc in mesopotamia which is 5 thousand years ago and not 14 thousand like you believe.

Just like all the proof shows man 14000 years ago to be nomadic hunter gatherers who at the best did a few cave drawings.

you offer no proof just what ifs.. how can you base a religion thats only 1500 years old off of what ifs that you have no proof of and actually go against every bit of proof.writing was around 4000 years before your religion was even though of. Also the very basis of your religion goes back to ishmael son of abraham who lived around 2000 bc.

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:09:42
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However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:26:08
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SNIP
However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.

If you can't blow them away with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.
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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:38:53
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Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


Notice that I distinguish between Islamic and Islamist.

You can absolutely take it for 100% granted that the majority of the VICTIMS of Islamism are Muslims-who-are-no-Islamists. [Similar as to how 90% of the victims of the Inquisition were other Catholics, right?]

Islamists ain't your people - but rather a cancer in your body politic.

Matter of fact, I'm old enough to remember how say, Salafism, got going in places like France.
So, your 18 year old can now browbeat daddy and mommy with 'your are bad Muslims,almost infidel!' while screwing the 16 year old girl next door in a temporal marriage. If her folks bitch about, they also get the 'browbeat the Heretic' treatment. Generational conflict!

Bit of 'Tournantisme', but of 'bruler'and hey PRESTO - got your fighting core.



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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:49:11
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Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


Notice that I distinguish between Islamic and Islamist.

You can absolutely take it for 100% granted that the majority of the VICTIMS of Islamism are Muslims-who-are-no-Islamists. [Similar as to how 90% of the victims of the Inquisition were other Catholics, right?]

Islamists ain't your people - but rather a cancer in your body politic.



ah yes the scholar of Islam is here

I can say the westboro baptist church is the cancer to Christianity

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:51:14
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Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


Notice that I distinguish between Islamic and Islamist.

You can absolutely take it for 100% granted that the majority of the VICTIMS of Islamism are Muslims-who-are-no-Islamists. [Similar as to how 90% of the victims of the Inquisition were other Catholics, right?]

Islamists ain't your people - but rather a cancer in your body politic.



ah yes the scholar of Islam is here

I can say the westboro baptist church is the cancer to Christianity


Am I supposed to argue that they are not?


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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:54:11
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Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


Notice that I distinguish between Islamic and Islamist.

You can absolutely take it for 100% granted that the majority of the VICTIMS of Islamism are Muslims-who-are-no-Islamists. [Similar as to how 90% of the victims of the Inquisition were other Catholics, right?]

Islamists ain't your people - but rather a cancer in your body politic.



ah yes the scholar of Islam is here

I can say the westboro baptist church is the cancer to Christianity


Am I supposed to argue that they are not?


ah yes let your bigotry out you sound like you might be related to Ed Gein

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:57:58
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they did not exist unless you include cave paintings


well you do not know that what if they got destroyed with time? you assume if its all documented it exists but your feeble mind cannot think outside the box and say it may have existed but not any more


So every bit of it was destroyed and not one specimen of it survived your saying. Even so almost every scholar and every bit of proof dates the beginnings of writings to 3400 bc for chinese characters and to 3200 bc in mesopotamia which is 5 thousand years ago and not 14 thousand like you believe.

Just like all the proof shows man 14000 years ago to be nomadic hunter gatherers who at the best did a few cave drawings.

you offer no proof just what ifs.. how can you base a religion thats only 1500 years old off of what ifs that you have no proof of and actually go against every bit of proof.writing was around 4000 years before your religion was even though of. Also the very basis of your religion goes back to ishmael son of abraham who lived around 2000 bc.


not ishmael it stared from his dad Abraham, back then if they could read and write I am sure others could before that but like I said there will always be what if

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:58:47
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Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


Notice that I distinguish between Islamic and Islamist.

You can absolutely take it for 100% granted that the majority of the VICTIMS of Islamism are Muslims-who-are-no-Islamists. [Similar as to how 90% of the victims of the Inquisition were other Catholics, right?]

Islamists ain't your people - but rather a cancer in your body politic.



ah yes the scholar of Islam is here

I can say the westboro baptist church is the cancer to Christianity


Am I supposed to argue that they are not?


ah yes let your bigotry out you sound like you might be related to Ed Gein


Dude do you ever post anything usefull or just nonsensical flames and unrelated inflamatory rhetoric?

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:02:12
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SNIP
However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:05:15
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SNIP
However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:05:39
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By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By TrIpLe_D [1423092]


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


Notice that I distinguish between Islamic and Islamist.

You can absolutely take it for 100% granted that the majority of the VICTIMS of Islamism are Muslims-who-are-no-Islamists. [Similar as to how 90% of the victims of the Inquisition were other Catholics, right?]

Islamists ain't your people - but rather a cancer in your body politic.



ah yes the scholar of Islam is here

I can say the westboro baptist church is the cancer to Christianity


Am I supposed to argue that they are not?


ah yes let your bigotry out you sound like you might be related to Ed Gein


Dude do you ever post anything usefull or just nonsensical flames and unrelated inflamatory rhetoric?


I do until people just start posting random crap then I start doing that

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:10:10
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By TrIpLe_D [1423092]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By CravenTHC [1569996]
SNIP
However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath

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Posted on Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:14:01
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By DarthBrogo [21801]
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SNIP
However, as I've already pointed out, there is little to no point in replying to the muslims here since they have no capability of listening to reason. Their religious leaders have broken brainwashing down to a science. They are completely and utterly consumed with stubborn rigidity. Which is interesting since they are the easiest to convince that their religion is wrong when they start to think critically about reality. Christians are easier to talk to, and more willing to admit the faults of their religion, but are harder to convince that their chosen path is a false one.




There are a few slight snags with your line of thinking, and I will paint the consequences.

1] The success of a way of life is not contingent upon individual outcomes but on the spread of that way of life.

2] The Islamist model does a remarkable good of a] perpetuating itself while b] the 'enlightned model [ based on individual liberties, reason and similar things] does not.

The model based on 'f**k and kill' is full of win, the model of 'reason and argue 'is full of loss.

As I said before, the individual who pursues his own objectives simply is a cancercell, and Islamist leaders are simply applying Common Sense by exterminating anyone in their midst who refuses to be a means to an end.

You may also note that the model is highly rewarding for the right kind of cooperative individual:
kill on demand and you get sex-slaves on demand, loot, and power. What exactly have you got on offer that competes with such rewards?




I told you several times that Survival is a competitive blood-sport, right?


Dudes, just because few sand monkeys blow up themselves and does other shit in the name of our god, doesn't mean that we're ALL the same!
I'm a Muslim, do you see me bitching here with you guys?
No, cause I really don't give a damn what other thinks bout my religion. Yes, sometimes, I really feel like standing up or defend my own people here on these kind of threads, but I know arguing with you people here is the same as getting drunk and talk to a pole all night long.


dude this is what happens when you bend down to them, people like them will never be happy, that's why speak your mind or they will take it as you are on your knees.

look at the thread who has more right to the land Israel or Palestine and majority of the vote went to Palestine and then these bigots went silent for some reason, even one of them admitted he was a bigot


The bigots who went silent were the bigots who voted 'Palestine'. They did not offer arguments.
Multies much?


cause it was a deal that I made with another player and part of the deal was neither me or him can comment on it or add anything to it, why do you think I was silent during that? man I'll defend Palestine till my last breath


to bad they cant defend themselves and could only get land out of the niceness of israel and yet the palestinians still cant be happy and always trying to attack israel then cry like little punks when israel comes and puts a foot in their ass every few years.

whats the matter, cant your imaginary god come down and smite the opressors?

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