Please note: In the following note I do not intend to offend any other religion in any way.
Well yes, I'm a Muslim and its true that God is most merciful.
He has given you a chance to convert to the real religion, which ofcourse is difficult yet not impossible.
When someone commits a bad deed and asks his Lord for forgiveness he forgives him for He is the most merciful. The apologizes are to be made in the world and not to be in the life hereafter.
The truth is difficult and the path which a muslim follows is quite difficult. But when such a mulim commits a bad deed he is to be forgiven by Allah. But if he actually simply does NOT covert to Islam and has done no good deed, the God has the biggest anger too. But yet, his forgiveness is more than that of his anger. For example, if you (a muslim) think of committing a murder. But before committing it, you die. He will forgive you. And you won't be punished for that. But, if you think of going a good deed, for example helping the poor, but die before doing that, you will be rewarded for you intended the good. Any further questions, please feel free to mail me.

By Killer [1710689]
Please note: In the following note I do not intend to offend any other religion in any way.
Well yes, I'm a Muslim and its true that God is most merciful.
He has given you a chance to convert to the real religion, which ofcourse is difficult yet not impossible.
When someone commits a bad deed and asks his Lord for forgiveness he forgives him for He is the most merciful. The apologizes are to be made in the world and not to be in the life hereafter.
The truth is difficult and the path which a muslim follows is quite difficult. But when such a mulim commits a bad deed he is to be forgiven by Allah. But if he actually simply does NOT covert to Islam and has done no good deed, the God has the biggest anger too. But yet, his forgiveness is more than that of his anger. For example, if you (a muslim) think of committing a murder. But before committing it, you die. He will forgive you. And you won't be punished for that. But, if you think of going a good deed, for example helping the poor, but die before doing that, you will be rewarded for you intended the good. Any further questions, please feel free to mail me.

What a load of horse shit...hard to understand horse shit.

By HochMeister [1772040]
I hear rebuttal missiles incoming.

There's not really a valid point to be made by rebutting what a Muslim posts here. Especially the ones who have used points that have already been refuted earlier in the thread. If they're not going to pay attention to what was said before, then why should anybody waste space repeating it just for them?

the fact that religion has people believe that God will only accept people that follow their rules is simply laughable.

I believe in God for reasons that are mine alone. I need not explain why. I do not try to convince anyone who doesn't believe that they should. I believe regardless if you believe in God or by what rules you practice you will be accepted by him as long as you do what is right in your heart.

I don't think any human could ever define what God is or what God wants. that is simply arrogant to think any man, a so called prophet or otherwise, could explain with any real accuracy what God wants or why God does or doesn't do certain things.

Personally I think anyone who tries to control people with God, kill people for God, commit any acts we all know are wrong in our hearts in the name of God, or any 'holy' place/land are committing the most vile crimes imaginable. There is no way I can KNOW this, its just what I believe. I fear many people who done these things will face judgment for them whatever that entails.

these defined rules of worshipping him to earn a place by him seems off to me. if a being has the power to do all that he gets credit for then why would he need us to praise him? to me it would be like ants padding your ego. I believe life is to be enjoyed without restrictions as long as is doesn't go against what most humans know what is right without being told.

all I would say to anyone who has questions about faith or lack thereof, would be to listen to what you feel is right. do not listen to others who claim to know and ignore their protests to whatever stance you take. in the end I don't think it makes a difference. if you are repentant for things you have done in life and are loved by those who know you best then God or no, you have lived a life worth living.

By Killer [1710689]
Please note: In the following note I do not intend to offend any other religion in any way.
Well yes, I'm a Muslim and its true that God is most merciful.
He has given you a chance to convert to the real religion, which ofcourse is difficult yet not impossible.
.

So your saying that your religion is the real one and everyone else that doesn't follow your religion practices a fake religion thats good to know thanks.

What a load of horse shit...hard to understand horse shit.

Shows your attitude, Do you really interested in understanding it.

He is a sad and lonely old man

Least i dont believe the religious equivalent of a Nigerian scam...and yes my attitude is what it is..the horse shit i quoted was a veiled ''Were right,your wrong..better get on this side..or your going to hell''

Just because i call it what it is without the sugar coating,deluded feckwits.

By DarthBrogo [21801]
The Sovs were atheists, and it appears clear to me that the current lot of anti-religious agitators are less politically reliable than the old bunch.You'd be hard-pressed to detect the slightest whiff of peacepiping among the RPR, FDP, VLD or VVD - continental anti-clerical rightwing Hardliners. [French, German, Belgian,Dutch]
There is no daylight visible between zealous loyalty and unacceptable disloyalty.
One starts where the other ends.

I was openly agnostic during the Cold War.
Yet no man could possibly accuse me of a lack of commitment to Total Victory during the Cold War.

Failure to view possession of these weapons by the West with favour, and a zeal to deny the mere possiblity of such instruments to anyone else is disloyalty.

Treason starts where lockstep ends.

I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,
Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;
The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best;
The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

I heard my country calling, away across the sea,
Across the waste of waters she calls and calls to me.
Her sword is girded at her side, her helmet on her head,
And round her feet are lying the dying and the dead.
I hear the noise of battle, the thunder of her guns,
I haste to thee my mother, a son among thy sons.

And, as I have previously stated numerous times, atheism is not an organized religion. Whether or not the former Soviet Union wanted it to be, that is not how it works. It is an answer to a question. It's not even an ideology for most of us. It is the default position for the question, "Does "God" exist."

On the other hand it has been well established throughout the ages that the Abrahamic religions are very much organized groups with clear leadership structures dating back to their origins.

SO the only slander taking place here is yours. You have tried multiple times now to equate atheism with the former Soviet Union, and every time you try again I will tell you the same thing. I am not, nor have I ever been, affiliated with anything soviet. The same goes for each individual atheist. We are all individuals that have come to the same conclusion about a particular subject. That is all.

The organisation or lack thereoff is no criterion.
The people who share attribute A will be evaluated as one group - whenever that provides for an expedient method of ensuring their actions with regards to Common Good.
Now, whether the attribut is a shared vision of the number of gods [zero in your case] or car-ownership, or formal memembershp of a trade union, or sharing a zipcode is beside the point.

A priori - and I think you will find this a persistent thing in my philosophy - I reject the atomistic interpretation of humanity. [ Atomistic: as consisting of separate component psrts which are called individual and are irreducible complexes ]
The collective overrides the individual.

A Zygote is simply a tool for producing Gametes, and has no claim to autonomy.
Quite apart from religious, teleological or philosophical considerations - whch are not compelling per se - this is a matter of biological and ecological necessity.

The very survival of Gaia ["the series of interacting ecosystems that compose a single huge ecosystem at the Earth's surface. Period. "] demands a refusal to accept the idea of individual autonomy.

Interdepence is by now complete, absolute. There is no realm of physical action or economical action where the individual does NOT affect another individual.

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

And full of BS too.
The parameters of Earth and its spherical nature were determined by Erastothenes well before the year 1 AD.

The Ecclesiastical Commission set up to Queen Isablla recommended rejecting the Colombus proposal - BC it believed that the circumference of the Earth was about twice the number given by Columbus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

He is best known for being the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth, which he did by applying a measuring system using stades, or the length of stadiums during that time period. His calculation was remarkably accurate. He was also the first to calculate the tilt of the Earths axis (again with remarkable accuracy).

Seventeen hundred years after Eratosthenes death, while Christopher Columbus studied what Eratosthenes had written about the size of the Earth, he chose to believe that the Earth's circumference was much smaller. Had Columbus set sail knowing that Eratosthenes' larger circumference value was more accurate, he would have known that the place where he made landfall was not Asia, but rather a New World.

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

What a load of horse shit...hard to understand horse shit.

Shows your attitude, Do you really interested in understanding it.

He is a sad and lonely old man

Least i dont believe the religious equivalent of a Nigerian scam...and yes my attitude is what it is..the horse shit i quoted was a veiled ''Were right,your wrong..better get on this side..or your going to hell''

Just because i call it what it is without the sugar coating,deluded feckwits.

shame your still deluded and here I thought I was making progress with you

the only f**kwits are those like you who think that humans just poofed out of no where.

as I told you who mentioned right or wrong team? that's your thinking

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or constructoet confused and could have not clkbowledge is utterly stupid.

let him be he is useful as sending monkeys to pick up your car from a garage

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

man wasnt even civlilized 14000 years ago. let alone anyone writing about anything. if your gonna tell stories at least get dates write and a little work on your spelling wouldnt hurt cause i cant understand half the shit you writing.

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

man wasnt even civlilized 14000 years ago. let alone anyone writing about anything. if your gonna tell stories at least get dates write and a little work on your spelling wouldnt hurt cause i cant understand half the shit you writing.

To which we can add that the fairy-tale that the earth was believed flat has been decisevely disproven.

The whole thing - irf.net - is just a propaganda-rag without the slightest value.

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

man wasnt even civlilized 14000 years ago. let alone anyone writing about anything. if your gonna tell stories at least get dates write and a little work on your spelling wouldnt hurt cause i cant understand half the shit you writing.

So you lived 14000 years ago to confirm that man was not civilized?

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

man wasnt even civlilized 14000 years ago. let alone anyone writing about anything. if your gonna tell stories at least get dates write and a little work on your spelling wouldnt hurt cause i cant understand half the shit you writing.

So you lived 14000 years ago to confirm that man was not civilized?

no but the earliest evidence of any civilization is 7000 years ago, 14000 years ago we were cavemen. Go do some research.

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

man wasnt even civlilized 14000 years ago. let alone anyone writing about anything. if your gonna tell stories at least get dates write and a little work on your spelling wouldnt hurt cause i cant understand half the shit you writing.

So you lived 14000 years ago to confirm that man was not civilized?

In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine.

Oow Oow,has it got anything in it that explains todays scientific problems?That fusion stuff or maybe the process of getting Nuclear power..steam engines?...just about shit at the time eh...poor show.

well if it explains the big bang theory what more do you want? if it explains the process of an embryo then that is enough evidence but your small mind cannot comprehend the little things let alone the creation of the universe

see that Popadapill?not askinf U to convert but atleast not talk nonsense and acknowledge the fact that he is is right andQuran did tell about the things 14000 yrs ago which sciIf it had mentioned things like fusion or construction of nukes would have confused and could havecaused confusion at that time. If you cannot undstand these matters dont call them bullshit justbahut thayface.

man wasnt even civlilized 14000 years ago. let alone anyone writing about anything. if your gonna tell stories at least get dates write and a little work on your spelling wouldnt hurt cause i cant understand half the shit you writing.

So you lived 14000 years ago to confirm that man was not civilized?

no but the earliest evidence of any civilization is 7000 years ago, 14000 years ago we were cavemen. Go do some research.

Ah I see your an evolutionist right? So monkeys came from fish's right

wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.

By UnknownElement [450910]
wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.

Well I did do my research and man was not cavemen before

By UnknownElement [450910]
wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.

Well I did do my research and man was not cavemen before

before what? maybe you should soldier yourself to writing coherent sentences

By UnknownElement [450910]
wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.

Well I did do my research and man was not cavemen before

before what? maybe you should soldier yourself to writing coherent sentences

That would be SOLIDER, not soldier. Maybe he is more solid than something else...I don't know.

By UnknownElement [450910]
wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.

Well I did do my research and there was no cavemen

before what? maybe you should soldier yourself to writing coherent sentences

Ops should pay more attention, the theory of evolution is rubbish

By UnknownElement [450910]
wtf does that have to do with the state mankind was at 14000 years ago. go do some research instead of just posting dumb crap trying to start an arguement.

Well I did do my research and there was no cavemen

before what? maybe you should soldier yourself to writing coherent sentences

Ops should pay more attention, the theory of evolution is rubbish

i never stated anything about evolution, i just stated something that is a fact which is at 14000 years ago man was wild and ferel and refered to as cavemen. Archeology has proven this. what is your proof besides stating crap from some religion that was only founded 1500 years ago.

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