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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 08:45:28
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Don't get me wrong, I'm American and all for guns.



But the moment people start thinking that this is the old west and start shooting people THEY determined to be guilty is the day our civilization takes it's last dive. I mean really, a traumatic event happens, and you think anyone in the situation is in the state of mind to make a justifiable case?



The answer is no. Let the courts/police determine the guilty party. Regardless of your opinion on them, they're better trained than however you think you are.



Also, if a group of kids show up trying to knock you out...Nut kick, face punch, elbow to face, or a Stone Cold Stunner is also a viable option to retaliate with.



if some is trying to knock you out - it can potentially kill you... so in return a screwdriver to their throat isn't out of the question... just a bullet to the face is less suspicious - lol.


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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 08:59:34
BLIP BLAP GOES MY GLOCK 27 MOTHER f**kAS

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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:15:55
LSD is drinking a cup of mother f**king tea while he's saying that.

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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 16:55:32
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And it is for that reason (referring to the article) why I own a handgun and am a strong supporter of conceal carry. BLAM! A million dollar shot just like in Forrest Gump.


And it's for that reason that gun owners are a f**king joke.
f**k defending yourself, you'd rather kill some teenager for being stupid.


and you would rather an elderly woman get ko'd rather than have the ability to put those punks in check


Bitch had it coming if she's packing a glock.
BRAP BRAP


ya she had it coming for holding something you don't like in her purse.

its people like you that create these situations in the first place. always crying and whining about the poor little law breakers. a no tolerance attitude needs to be taken. after a while these things will stop happening as much. and in turn save lives of attackers and the attacked by minimizing the incidents to begin with.

so why don't you just go sit down and pull on that little thing like you normally do while inventing and stewing in your reasons to hate anything that isn't to your liking.

and if the situation ever occurs where its 5-10 vs you and for the fun of it they ko your punk ass and break yor jaw, break your orbital, you nose or cause some kind of head trauma no one wants to hear you b*tch about it. remember you had it coming.


Save the life of the attackers and the victims?

So you think that because someone smacked someone else they deserve to die do they.. death is a harsh sentence for anyone. They should just get knocked out like they did to someone else. See how they like it.

Anybody who carries a gun (unless army etc) is stupid. Why use a weapon, not strong enough for fists?! I'd rather die knowing I went down not giving up, rather than know I had shot another coward.

Edit: From experience, I myself got jumped last Christmas by 5 guys and still took a few out before getting stabbed! Yeah, the alcohol masked the pain, and I'm happy I'm alive but the last thing I would want to do is take a weapon back to them, that's just childish and pathetic. As much as I hate the police leave it up to them. Things happen, we would over populate the Earth faster otherwise. Oh, I'm not heartless either, just don't believe in weapons unless used for cooking, hunting, baseball etc.. other words. Shit happens.


if you don't understand the point I was making, then we can agree to disagree. im glad you are a tough guy willing to be stabbed before shooting someone. that's great.

what about those who aren't physically able to do so? they should just deal with whatever happens to them because Mouse is a bad ass? sorry, that doesn't sound intelligent to me.

I don't carry a gun. I own one for home protection though. But regardless I don't feel bad for anyone who gets blasted when they assault someone else. its simple to avoid. keep your fecking hands to your self and you have nothing to worry about.

but hey, lets whine and cry and feel bad for the people who got shot while hurting someone else. it working out great so far. ill never understand the outrage towards a gun owner DEFENDING themselves and no outrage to the douchebags purposely going out of their way to harm someone else. that's if f'd up thinking to me.



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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 17:23:09
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And it is for that reason (referring to the article) why I own a handgun and am a strong supporter of conceal carry. BLAM! A million dollar shot just like in Forrest Gump.


And it's for that reason that gun owners are a f**king joke.
f**k defending yourself, you'd rather kill some teenager for being stupid.


and you would rather an elderly woman get ko'd rather than have the ability to put those punks in check


Bitch had it coming if she's packing a glock.
BRAP BRAP


ya she had it coming for holding something you don't like in her purse.

its people like you that create these situations in the first place. always crying and whining about the poor little law breakers. a no tolerance attitude needs to be taken. after a while these things will stop happening as much. and in turn save lives of attackers and the attacked by minimizing the incidents to begin with.

so why don't you just go sit down and pull on that little thing like you normally do while inventing and stewing in your reasons to hate anything that isn't to your liking.

and if the situation ever occurs where its 5-10 vs you and for the fun of it they ko your punk ass and break yor jaw, break your orbital, you nose or cause some kind of head trauma no one wants to hear you b*tch about it. remember you had it coming.


Save the life of the attackers and the victims?

So you think that because someone smacked someone else they deserve to die do they.. death is a harsh sentence for anyone. They should just get knocked out like they did to someone else. See how they like it.

Anybody who carries a gun (unless army etc) is stupid. Why use a weapon, not strong enough for fists?! I'd rather die knowing I went down not giving up, rather than know I had shot another coward.

Edit: From experience, I myself got jumped last Christmas by 5 guys and still took a few out before getting stabbed! Yeah, the alcohol masked the pain, and I'm happy I'm alive but the last thing I would want to do is take a weapon back to them, that's just childish and pathetic. As much as I hate the police leave it up to them. Things happen, we would over populate the Earth faster otherwise. Oh, I'm not heartless either, just don't believe in weapons unless used for cooking, hunting, baseball etc.. other words. Shit happens.


if you don't understand the point I was making, then we can agree to disagree. im glad you are a tough guy willing to be stabbed before shooting someone. that's great.

what about those who aren't physically able to do so? they should just deal with whatever happens to them because Mouse is a bad ass? sorry, that doesn't sound intelligent to me.

I don't carry a gun. I own one for home protection though. But regardless I don't feel bad for anyone who gets blasted when they assault someone else. its simple to avoid. keep your fecking hands to your self and you have nothing to worry about.

but hey, lets whine and cry and feel bad for the people who got shot while hurting someone else. it working out great so far. ill never understand the outrage towards a gun owner DEFENDING themselves and no outrage to the douchebags purposely going out of their way to harm someone else. that's if f'd up thinking to me.


Why a gun though? CS spray will sting like hell! A gun can kill you in seconds. Nothing is worse than death! Enjoy the 15 year jail sentence whilst your attackers get 6 months. Smart thinking.

You don't have to be a 'bad ass' to mean business and stop yourself getting attacked.

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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 21:17:01
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And it is for that reason (referring to the article) why I own a handgun and am a strong supporter of conceal carry. BLAM! A million dollar shot just like in Forrest Gump.


And it's for that reason that gun owners are a f**king joke.
f**k defending yourself, you'd rather kill some teenager for being stupid.


and you would rather an elderly woman get ko'd rather than have the ability to put those punks in check


Bitch had it coming if she's packing a glock.
BRAP BRAP


ya she had it coming for holding something you don't like in her purse.

its people like you that create these situations in the first place. always crying and whining about the poor little law breakers. a no tolerance attitude needs to be taken. after a while these things will stop happening as much. and in turn save lives of attackers and the attacked by minimizing the incidents to begin with.

so why don't you just go sit down and pull on that little thing like you normally do while inventing and stewing in your reasons to hate anything that isn't to your liking.

and if the situation ever occurs where its 5-10 vs you and for the fun of it they ko your punk ass and break yor jaw, break your orbital, you nose or cause some kind of head trauma no one wants to hear you b*tch about it. remember you had it coming.


Save the life of the attackers and the victims?

So you think that because someone smacked someone else they deserve to die do they.. death is a harsh sentence for anyone. They should just get knocked out like they did to someone else. See how they like it.

Anybody who carries a gun (unless army etc) is stupid. Why use a weapon, not strong enough for fists?! I'd rather die knowing I went down not giving up, rather than know I had shot another coward.

Edit: From experience, I myself got jumped last Christmas by 5 guys and still took a few out before getting stabbed! Yeah, the alcohol masked the pain, and I'm happy I'm alive but the last thing I would want to do is take a weapon back to them, that's just childish and pathetic. As much as I hate the police leave it up to them. Things happen, we would over populate the Earth faster otherwise. Oh, I'm not heartless either, just don't believe in weapons unless used for cooking, hunting, baseball etc.. other words. Shit happens.


if you don't understand the point I was making, then we can agree to disagree. im glad you are a tough guy willing to be stabbed before shooting someone. that's great.

what about those who aren't physically able to do so? they should just deal with whatever happens to them because Mouse is a bad ass? sorry, that doesn't sound intelligent to me.

I don't carry a gun. I own one for home protection though. But regardless I don't feel bad for anyone who gets blasted when they assault someone else. its simple to avoid. keep your fecking hands to your self and you have nothing to worry about.

but hey, lets whine and cry and feel bad for the people who got shot while hurting someone else. it working out great so far. ill never understand the outrage towards a gun owner DEFENDING themselves and no outrage to the douchebags purposely going out of their way to harm someone else. that's if f'd up thinking to me.


Why a gun though? CS spray will sting like hell! A gun can kill you in seconds. Nothing is worse than death! Enjoy the 15 year jail sentence whilst your attackers get 6 months. Smart thinking.

You don't have to be a 'bad ass' to mean business and stop yourself getting attacked.


the whole gun issue aside. why in the f*ck would you defend anyone who would cause harm against another person INTENTIONALLY!? seriously.

this isn't a 'mistake'. this is outright disregard for other peoples welfare and yet the 'save the criminal' parade shows up with banners flying. wtf is wrong with people these days? if the cops were so dependable then why do things like this happen all over the world regardless of gun rights? perhaps its because of the systems in place being propped up by those too blind to see society doesn't need people like this and behavior like this should neither be excused or defended.

if the law and its limits cant punish people to the extent that would stop these things from happening, then stfu and let the people do it. just my opinion.

I agree that death is a harsh sentence. but this slapping people on the hand for the felonious assaults bs needs to stop.



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Posted on Sun Dec 01, 2013 21:39:31
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And it is for that reason (referring to the article) why I own a handgun and am a strong supporter of conceal carry. BLAM! A million dollar shot just like in Forrest Gump.


And it's for that reason that gun owners are a f**king joke.
f**k defending yourself, you'd rather kill some teenager for being stupid.


and you would rather an elderly woman get ko'd rather than have the ability to put those punks in check


Bitch had it coming if she's packing a glock.
BRAP BRAP


ya she had it coming for holding something you don't like in her purse.

its people like you that create these situations in the first place. always crying and whining about the poor little law breakers. a no tolerance attitude needs to be taken. after a while these things will stop happening as much. and in turn save lives of attackers and the attacked by minimizing the incidents to begin with.

so why don't you just go sit down and pull on that little thing like you normally do while inventing and stewing in your reasons to hate anything that isn't to your liking.

and if the situation ever occurs where its 5-10 vs you and for the fun of it they ko your punk ass and break yor jaw, break your orbital, you nose or cause some kind of head trauma no one wants to hear you b*tch about it. remember you had it coming.


Save the life of the attackers and the victims?

So you think that because someone smacked someone else they deserve to die do they.. death is a harsh sentence for anyone. They should just get knocked out like they did to someone else. See how they like it.

Anybody who carries a gun (unless army etc) is stupid. Why use a weapon, not strong enough for fists?! I'd rather die knowing I went down not giving up, rather than know I had shot another coward.

Edit: From experience, I myself got jumped last Christmas by 5 guys and still took a few out before getting stabbed! Yeah, the alcohol masked the pain, and I'm happy I'm alive but the last thing I would want to do is take a weapon back to them, that's just childish and pathetic. As much as I hate the police leave it up to them. Things happen, we would over populate the Earth faster otherwise. Oh, I'm not heartless either, just don't believe in weapons unless used for cooking, hunting, baseball etc.. other words. Shit happens.


if you don't understand the point I was making, then we can agree to disagree. im glad you are a tough guy willing to be stabbed before shooting someone. that's great.

what about those who aren't physically able to do so? they should just deal with whatever happens to them because Mouse is a bad ass? sorry, that doesn't sound intelligent to me.

I don't carry a gun. I own one for home protection though. But regardless I don't feel bad for anyone who gets blasted when they assault someone else. its simple to avoid. keep your fecking hands to your self and you have nothing to worry about.

but hey, lets whine and cry and feel bad for the people who got shot while hurting someone else. it working out great so far. ill never understand the outrage towards a gun owner DEFENDING themselves and no outrage to the douchebags purposely going out of their way to harm someone else. that's if f'd up thinking to me.


Why a gun though? CS spray will sting like hell! A gun can kill you in seconds. Nothing is worse than death! Enjoy the 15 year jail sentence whilst your attackers get 6 months. Smart thinking.

You don't have to be a 'bad ass' to mean business and stop yourself getting attacked.


Well in some states it's perfectly acceptable to use deadly force to defend yourself or another person - no jail time or even charges.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:28:48
The point being is that you don't hold the power to deem someone worthy of being executed.


Example: Person tries to "knockout" a person, gets caught without being shot, and does some time. They come out the other end a better person by never making another stupid mistake and lives the rest of their life crime free.


With your logic, that scenario can't play out because you killed them. You're not talking about wounding them, threatening them with a gun, but shooting to kill because you deem them worthy. THAT'S the problem.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:43:42
LMAO, Chit fancies he can prove that prison rehabilitates people in the United States. I.. can't stop laughing..

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:44:34
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The point being is that you don't hold the power to deem someone worthy of being executed.


Example: Person tries to "knockout" a person, gets caught without being shot, and does some time. They come out the other end a better person by never making another stupid mistake and lives the rest of their life crime free.


With your logic, that scenario can't play out because you killed them. You're not talking about wounding them, threatening them with a gun, but shooting to kill because you deem them worthy. THAT'S the problem.


defending yourself and executing someone is two very different things.

the problem with your logic is that you are hoping that they learn their lesson, that they don't do any major harm, and that they get caught. that's a lot of ifs.

not to mention you aren't taking into consideration that the person they are attacking hasn't done anything to deserve it. what about their rights to live, without undo harm? wtf?

and when you attack someone, willingly and intentionally, you have decided its ok to be put down. you have decided to cross the line into violence, not the person you attack. if you cant see the difference, then there is no point in discussing it further.

also I doubt this would be an issue of someone stabbed or beat the attackers to death. then somehow its magically different. but since they used or would use a gun then by god its some kind of execution wild west style. give me a break.



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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:50:23
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LMAO, Chit fancies he can prove that prison rehabilitates people in the United States. I.. can't stop laughing..


Funny that was exactly my first thought as well. Prison time for assault is somehow going to give that person a new perspective? Sure it will! It will enlighten them to the wide world of illegal activities that make make them lots of MONEY. If creating hardened criminals is what you want then sending them to prison is the best way to accomplish it.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:56:44
It happens a lot in NZ. Most weekends to be exact. Except the people die here, It isn't a game (well not always) It's usually some big drunk guy punching out someone and they hit their head on concrete and die.

I remember Rob Dyrdek on the show 'Ridiculousness' talking about when people "scorpion" which means when they fall headfirst into the ground their feet nearly touch their head. Well one weekend I saw someone punched so hard it looked like they folded in half and their head nearly touched their feet on the ground (still standing) kind of like a reverse scorpion

Surprisingly the guy didn't die from that, incredible.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 03:05:05
Just some lil pussies who haven't came across someone that's more than willing to return the favor. There time will come, it always does.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 03:11:13
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It happens a lot in NZ. Most weekends to be exact. Except the people die here, It isn't a game (well not always) It's usually some big drunk guy punching out someone and they hit their head on concrete and die.

I remember Rob Dyrdek on the show 'Ridiculousness' talking about when people "scorpion" which means when they fall headfirst into the ground their feet nearly touch their head. Well one weekend I saw someone punched so hard it looked like they folded in half and their head nearly touched their feet on the ground (still standing) kind of like a reverse scorpion

Surprisingly the guy didn't die from that, incredible.


Was at a local death metal show a couple years back & some douche was in the pit sucker punching people. I got behind him & pushed him into my friend who gave him a diamond cutter.

to make a long story short, he left with a couple missing teeth & a big gouge bit out of his tongue.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 04:49:43
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Was at a local death metal show a couple years back & some douche was in the pit sucker punching people. I got behind him & pushed him into my friend who gave him a diamond cutter.

to make a long story short, he left with a couple missing teeth & a big gouge bit out of his tongue.


holy shit, was it me???



also on the prison/jail topic, you never know. But I'd rather have a 1% of the idea succeeding than 0% with someone's death on my hands.

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LMAO, Chit fancies he can prove that prison rehabilitates people in the United States. I.. can't stop laughing..


I think i love you

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 05:15:33
on a personal level I can respect that Chit completely. and I believe you have the right to get pummeled instead of killing/hurting someone.

but for those who don't want to go that route, we need to ensure they have the means to defend themselves from those who would do them harm, especially for 'fun'. again. just my opinion



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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 07:42:31
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And it is for that reason (referring to the article) why I own a handgun and am a strong supporter of conceal carry. BLAM! A million dollar shot just like in Forrest Gump.


And it's for that reason that gun owners are a f**king joke.
f**k defending yourself, you'd rather kill some teenager for being stupid.


and you would rather an elderly woman get ko'd rather than have the ability to put those punks in check


Bitch had it coming if she's packing a glock.
BRAP BRAP


ya she had it coming for holding something you don't like in her purse.

its people like you that create these situations in the first place. always crying and whining about the poor little law breakers. a no tolerance attitude needs to be taken. after a while these things will stop happening as much. and in turn save lives of attackers and the attacked by minimizing the incidents to begin with.

so why don't you just go sit down and pull on that little thing like you normally do while inventing and stewing in your reasons to hate anything that isn't to your liking.

and if the situation ever occurs where its 5-10 vs you and for the fun of it they ko your punk ass and break yor jaw, break your orbital, you nose or cause some kind of head trauma no one wants to hear you b*tch about it. remember you had it coming.


Save the life of the attackers and the victims?

So you think that because someone smacked someone else they deserve to die do they.. death is a harsh sentence for anyone. They should just get knocked out like they did to someone else. See how they like it.

Anybody who carries a gun (unless army etc) is stupid. Why use a weapon, not strong enough for fists?! I'd rather die knowing I went down not giving up, rather than know I had shot another coward.

Edit: From experience, I myself got jumped last Christmas by 5 guys and still took a few out before getting stabbed! Yeah, the alcohol masked the pain, and I'm happy I'm alive but the last thing I would want to do is take a weapon back to them, that's just childish and pathetic. As much as I hate the police leave it up to them. Things happen, we would over populate the Earth faster otherwise. Oh, I'm not heartless either, just don't believe in weapons unless used for cooking, hunting, baseball etc.. other words. Shit happens.


With no due respect, a Jeremy Kyle fledgling has no right to speak about anything ever. You can spin your story how you want, but there is a VERY common trait of people on there... you're an obvious piece of shit... hell, you've even called yourself a piece of shit. Yet now you are against people arming themselves against chav's like yourself robbing them? Shut the f**k up you POS.

EVERYONE has the right to NOT get assaulted. Only pieces of shit like yourself that HAVE assaulted people would bitch about what means someone uses to defend themselves. How many people have you threatened with a knife? HONESTLY??? f**k YOU!! People have the right to defend themselves against pieces of shit like yourself. I don't care how "friendly" you may be with people on here, a piece of shit is a piece of shit.

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Posted on Mon Dec 02, 2013 07:45:05
But Crow, you're a piece of shit. Why are you calling someone a piece of shit when you're a piece of shit? If a piece of shit calls someone a piece of shit, then the shit coming out of that piece of shit's shithole isn't going to piece together into some kind of ultra-turd.
Are we clear?

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Posted on Tue Dec 03, 2013 16:09:17
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But Crow, you're a piece of shit. Why are you calling someone a piece of shit when you're a piece of shit? If a piece of shit calls someone a piece of shit, then the shit coming out of that piece of shit's shithole isn't going to piece together into some kind of ultra-turd.
Are we clear?


Is an ultra turd where you're dropping a deuce, and it comes out sideways?



God, ultra turds are such a piece of shit to deal with.

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Posted on Tue Dec 03, 2013 19:53:56
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The point being is that you don't hold the power to deem someone worthy of being executed.


Example: Person tries to "knockout" a person, gets caught without being shot, and does some time. They come out the other end a better person by never making another stupid mistake and lives the rest of their life crime free.


With your logic, that scenario can't play out because you killed them. You're not talking about wounding them, threatening them with a gun, but shooting to kill because you deem them worthy. THAT'S the problem.


People tend to go into jail, and come out worse. First hand accounts state that once you go to jail, you no longer have a fear of jail, and therefore dont care. You know how it is and what it's like, so what's the big deal? Talking bout how jail rehabs people.

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Posted on Sat Dec 07, 2013 03:32:46
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Was at a local death metal show a couple years back & some douche was in the pit sucker punching people. I got behind him & pushed him into my friend who gave him a diamond cutter.

to make a long story short, he left with a couple missing teeth & a big gouge bit out of his tongue.


holy shit, was it me???



also on the prison/jail topic, you never know. But I'd rather have a 1% of the idea succeeding than 0% with someone's death on my hands.

Unless you look like your in your mid 30's close to 300 lbs. & a full scragly beard that looks like its never been kept up a day in it's life, & reek of whisky breath, i doubt it.


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Posted on Sat Dec 07, 2013 17:34:15
Teens doing this need stiff punishment and a change to see the error of their ways.

I recommend the following:

1000 hours of community service, and lets be creative what that exactly entails . I hear sewage treatment facilities are a great place to start.

9pm-7am curfew.

Mandatory screening for drug and alcohol use. Zero Tolerance (and no I'm not anti pot and such).

As well as financial restitution for the victim.

That is for a first offence.

Second Offence mandatory military bootcamp for punks.
Third Offence segregation in an adult prison.

If they didn't get the first time around, then they are likely a lost cause.

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