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www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2013/oct/06/male-brain-versus-female-brain

So there are many differences between male and female brains, most notably being that on average male brains are 10-15% larger, however boys this does not equate to increased intelligence more so a reflection on men generally being bigger and taller than women.

Goes to show, size isn't everything, especially when it comes to grey matter

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:52:57
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iq#Sex

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Main article: Sex and psychology

Most IQ tests are constructed so that there are no overall score differences between females and males.[102][103] Popular IQ batteries such as the WAIS and the WISC-R are also constructed in order to eliminate sex differences.[104] In a paper presented at the International Society for Intelligence Research in 2002, it was pointed out that because test constructors and the Educational Testing Service (which developed the SAT) often eliminate items showing marked sex differences in order to reduce the perception of bias, the "true sex" difference is masked. Items like the MRT and RT tests that show a male advantage in IQ are often removed.[105]


Goes to show, size isn't everything, especially when it comes to grey matter.

LOLwut?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_psychology#Controversies

In 2006, Danish psychologist and intelligence researcher Helmuth Nyborg was temporarily suspended from his position at Aarhus University, after being accused of scientific misconduct in relation to the documentation of a peer-reviewed paper appearing in the journal Personality and Individual Differences, in which he showed a 3.15-point IQ advantage of men over women.[47] This led to a review of his work by an investigative committee. Nyborg was defended and the university criticized by other researchers in the intelligence field.


By all means follow Steven Pinker's presentation on the topic.

www.edge.org/3rd_culture/debate05/pinker.slides.html


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The more interesting question is: are the cognitive differences between men and women innate?
I could not possibly answer that question.
Dr Halpern or Dr Pinker might know, but I don't.
The cognitive gap between men and women is beyond disputation.
The cause of it is a matter of a great deal of disputation.

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I give no credit whatsoever to the 'contribution' of Dr Spelke in the debate.
Her position is that the question is beyond answering.
Which is Nihilist.

Thank you, Professor.
If your position is that empirical analysis is a priori impossible, then your position is metaphysical rather than scientifical.
Sit down right beside me and we'll have a good metaphysical debate about the whole thing.

Moral questions are beyond sense-data, and I am certainly not averse to that.
But when - just as with Creationism-as-science - a moral theory is paraded as Scientific Fact, well, then I must demask the fraud.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 13:45:34
I like bananas.

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I cant drown my demons, they know how to swim.
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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 14:34:38
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I like bananas.


I prefer Woolly Mammoth meat.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 15:07:41
By Ali_Bees [1445620]

Goes to show, size isn't everything


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I like bananas.


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Debatable!


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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 18:20:17
Darth your first argument talks about the tests themselves, not the results... so not sure what your point is there. The second one refers to one person who posited a theory, and was criticized for it... no information on the research that led him to that conclusion. Generally 3-5 points is considered a fairly small margin anyway when it comes to IQ. The error band itself as about 3 points above or below.

The Pinker slides are actually really interesting.

Personally I don't believe in this whole thing that men and women are the same. It's completely absurd to say that, actually. We have clear biological differences and chemically there's just different shit going on... logically that affects our brains as well. Does it mean women are inferior or men are inferior? No. We're all still people and we all deserve the same rights and happiness. Thankfully everyone seems to agree on that point.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 18:58:55
1. IQ tests are usually engineered to show intellectual equality. SATs, however, are not so contaminated.

2. There are attempts by th PC-crowd to repress research on pseudo-scientific grounds, which cannot stand up to scientific scrutinity. The information you claim to be absent is available in the usual academic magazines, including in Personality and Individual Differences itself. Of course, there is a fee for access.

3. As Pinker pointed out, the difference is scores are persistent, predictive, and so on and so forth. You may as well claim that a General Election is indeterminate because the Results are well within a general margin of error.

The narrative is pretty plain.
Inability to get that is either simple obtuseness or wilfull blindness.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 21:25:43
Women use their brain to think...men think with another part of their anatomy.

That's the difference..

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 21:32:06
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Women use their brain to think...men think with another part of their anatomy.

That's the difference..


So what you're trying to say is that a mans dick is smarter than you?

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 21:36:09
The smartest thing to come out of her mouth is Einsteins dick.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 21:53:05
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By Shiloh_V [1765616]
Women use their brain to think...men think with another part of their anatomy.

That's the difference..


So what you're trying to say is that a mans dick is smarter than you?


ROFL

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 22:01:04
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Women use their brain to think...men think with another part of their anatomy.

That's the difference..


So what you're trying to say is that a mans dick is smarter than you?


And where exactly did I specifically mention that body part? Point proven, that's the first thing you thought of

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 22:08:24
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By Beerstein [1322136]
By Shiloh_V [1765616]
Women use their brain to think...men think with another part of their anatomy.

That's the difference..


So what you're trying to say is that a mans dick is smarter than you?


And where exactly did I specifically mention that body part? Point proven, that's the first thing you thought of


Your implications were clear, you see men have deductive reasoning (unlike yourself). However if you are in fact saying that isn't the case and you were serious then your case is more hopeless than previously deduced as you truly believe the words you spewed. To say that's the first thing I think of is correct, why? Simply because I either deduced what you were implying or grossly overestimated your intelligence.

Of course you say point proven, implying I was right which is probably good cause otherwise your intelligence as mentioned would seriously be in question. I guess the short of it is you're agreeing with my comment that a mans dick is in fact smarter than you.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 22:17:42
Bloody hell, lighten up!! Take life too seriously much? If I'd have put a little laughy face after my original comment, maybe you wouldn't be quite so upset right now...

Keep calm and carry on

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 22:30:45
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Bloody hell, lighten up!! Take life too seriously much? If I'd have put a little laughy face after my original comment, maybe you wouldn't be quite so upset right now...

Keep calm and carry on


Really we don't need to hear about your bloody hell, we get enough of that crap from our spouses/gfs once a month without having to hear about yours.

Anyways in all seriousness most people are dumb IMO and the more intelligent of the species are a minority including both sexes. At the end of the day the individual counts, not the whole. The same way men can't take credit for Obamas actions females can't take credit for Sarah Palins...Which SHOULD make females everywhere quite happy really.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 22:34:12
I believe an "Oh snap" courtesy of Mr.Obama is in order.

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Posted on Mon Oct 07, 2013 23:09:44
I might be small & you might be big, but that doesn't add up to how I live...

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Posted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 00:25:52
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Really we don't need to hear about your bloody hell, we get enough of that crap from our spouses/gfs once a month without having to hear about yours.

Anyways in all seriousness most people are dumb IMO and the more intelligent of the species are a minority including both sexes. At the end of the day the individual counts, not the whole. The same way men can't take credit for Obamas actions females can't take credit for Sarah Palins...Which SHOULD make females everywhere quite happy really.


Game, Set and Match, madam!

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Posted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 01:30:31
it's not what you have but rather what you do with it ... let's be honest, most people don't do squat with their brain ... there are way too many stupid, mentally lazy people out there wasting away watching reality shows and soap operas

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Posted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 01:39:15
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By Shiloh_V [1765616]
By Beerstein [1322136]
By Shiloh_V [1765616]
Women use their brain to think...men think with another part of their anatomy.

That's the difference..


So what you're trying to say is that a mans dick is smarter than you?


And where exactly did I specifically mention that body part? Point proven, that's the first thing you thought of


Your implications were clear, you see men have deductive reasoning (unlike yourself). However if you are in fact saying that isn't the case and you were serious then your case is more hopeless than previously deduced as you truly believe the words you spewed. To say that's the first thing I think of is correct, why? Simply because I either deduced what you were implying or grossly overestimated your intelligence.

Of course you say point proven, implying I was right which is probably good cause otherwise your intelligence as mentioned would seriously be in question. I guess the short of it is you're agreeing with my comment that a mans dick is in fact smarter than you.


remind me to never get in an argument with you on here... that was ownage at its best.

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Posted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 07:07:18
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By Shiloh_V [1765616]
Bloody hell, lighten up!! Take life too seriously much? If I'd have put a little laughy face after my original comment, maybe you wouldn't be quite so upset right now...

Keep calm and carry on


Really we don't need to hear about your bloody hell, we get enough of that crap from our spouses/gfs once a month without having to hear about yours.


you just defeated a keep calm and carry on-er

how does such a thing feel ? give yourself a nice pat on the back





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Posted on Tue Oct 08, 2013 08:48:26
Well, who knew such a little initial comment would ruffle so many feathers!

I personally wouldn't let anything a random stranger on a game forum says get me that wound up...but each to their own, right

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Posted on Wed Oct 09, 2013 07:14:04
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Anyways in all seriousness most people are dumb IMO and the more intelligent of the species are a minority including both sexes. At the end of the day the individual counts, not the whole. The same way men can't take credit for Obamas actions females can't take credit for Sarah Palins...Which SHOULD make females everywhere quite happy really.


I'm gonna go ahead and agree with that.

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Posted on Wed Oct 16, 2013 17:58:22
but who the boss ?? man are so shh

(im not saying that in a mean way i love woman )

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that all from her saying my name I have that effect on them
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