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Cannabis, MaryJ, Grass,Grade,Buzz,Skunk. whatever you call it these days, is so over rated, it gives you a dry mouth, the munchies, red raw eyes, makes you feel sick.

why do you people take it? opinions below?


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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:01:42
I've yet to feel sick while the effects where in full go. But alright..

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:04:26
It's not for everyone...

Some people don't like eating meat. They say it makes your stomach feel heavy, it tastes like shit, it gives you greasy skin and it makes you fat and smelly.

It doesn't mean any of those things are true.

I like meat and weed.


Edit: So this isn't just a straw man argument: Weed allows me to relax. It makes me more open minded. If I'm playing the piano or drawing a picture or writing something, I'm much more content to try new things. Sometimes, when I'm sober, I don't have an appetite so munchies aren't a bad thing. I don't feel sick or dizzy or anything else. It's a pleasant experience.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:09:11
Well weed is illegal, i'm afraid your breaking the law.

I don't understand it has similar effects on everyone so why doesn't anyone get what i had?

i smoked it for like a year, daily. i thought i'd warm to it but it was horrible every time complete waste of money, it blurs my vision also, i go pale too.

also it causes paranoia so why do it?

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:13:22
By Jawlz [1767137]
Well weed is illegal, i'm afraid your breaking the law.


I doubt you have "legally" bought all your music, but you feel no guilt with that one.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:13:50
Why would you do something you don't like every day for a year?

It's not illegal everywhere, this is an international game. People from all walks of life. Even in places where it is illegal, most constitutions would not punish you for personal use at home and it's fairly hard to be caught if you pick up close to home.

It doesn't have a similar effect on everyone, that was my point. You feel horrible when you smoke, I feel great.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:17:09
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it has similar effects on everyone


no, it doesn't

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:18:05
Meanwhile- despite the blather that there would be no more drugs-crime, if only drugs wwre legal - no one who consumes weed procured by a criminal, fails to be accssory to a criminal activity.

The people who do consume weed know this quite well.

Weed-consumption is by and large illegal, weed-procurement is illegal, and there is not the slightest reason whatsoever for any form of toleration or liberalisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade

Cannabis

While the recreational use of (and consequently the distribution of) cannabis is illegal in most countries throughout the world, it is available by prescription or recommendation in many places, including Canada and some US states, with Washington state and Colorado being the two first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use. Importation and distribution is prohibited at the federal level.[27] Cannabis use is tolerated in some areas, most notably the Netherlands which has legalized the possession and licensed sale (but not production) of the drug. Many nations have decriminalized the possession of small amounts of marijuana. Due to the hardy nature of the Cannabis plant, marijuana is grown all across the world and is today the world's most popular illegal drug with the highest availability. Cannabis is grown legally in many countries for industrial, non-drug use (known as hemp) as well. Cannabis-Hemp may also be planted for other non-drug domestic purposes such as seasoning in Aceh.

The demand for cannabis around the world, coupled with the drug's relative ease of cultivation, makes the illicit cannabis trade one of the primary ways in which organized criminal groups finance many of their activities. In Mexico, for example, the illicit trafficking of cannabis is thought to constitute the majority of many of the cartels' earnings.[28] and thus the main way in which they (the cartels) finance many other illegal activities ranging from the purchase of other illegal drugs for trafficking and weapons that are ultimately used to commit murders (causing a burgeoning in the homicide rates of many areas of the world, but particularly Latin America)

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:19:32
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Why would you do something you don't like every day for a year?


Because i gave it ago, didn't want to knock it before i tried it.

but didn't even give my 1% pleasure, well it smells nice i guess thats it.

and good for you then, it's horrible for me (wonder why?)

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:20:32
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Well weed is illegal, i'm afraid your breaking the law.


I doubt you have "legally" bought all your music, but you feel no guilt with that one.


Thats a petty crime though, weed is serious.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:22:10
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Meanwhile- despite the blather that there would be no more drugs-crime, if only drugs wwre legal - no one who consumes weed procured by a criminal, fails to be accssory to a criminal activity.

The people who do consume weed kows this quite well.

Weed-consumption is by and large illegal, weed-procurement is illegal, and there is nt the slightest reason whatsoever for any form of tolration or liberalisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade

Cannabis

While the recreational use of (and consequently the distribution of) cannabis is illegal in most countries throughout the world, it is available by prescription or recommendation in many places, including Canada and some US states, with Washington state and Colorado being the two first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use. Importation and distribution is prohibited at the federal level.[27] Cannabis use is tolerated in some areas, most notably the Netherlands which has legalized the possession and licensed sale (but not production) of the drug. Many nations have decriminalized the possession of small amounts of marijuana. Due to the hardy nature of the Cannabis plant, marijuana is grown all across the world and is today the world's most popular illegal drug with the highest availability. Cannabis is grown legally in many countries for industrial, non-drug use (known as hemp) as well. Cannabis-Hemp may also be planted for other non-drug domestic purposes such as seasoning in Aceh.

The demand for cannabis around the world, coupled with the drug's relative ease of cultivation, makes the illicit cannabis trade one of the primary ways in which organized criminal groups finance many of their activities. In Mexico, for example, the illicit trafficking of cannabis is thought to constitute the majority of many of the cartels' earnings.[28] and thus the main way in which they (the cartels) finance many other illegal activities ranging from the purchase of other illegal drugs for trafficking and weapons that are ultimately used to commit murders (causing a burgeoning in the homicide rates of many areas of the world, but particularly Latin America)


Are you arguing that it should be legal, then, to cut out the gangsters? The demand won't vanish and if it's being supplied by (and funding) the worst people on earth, shouldn't we be thinking of alternatives?

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:24:36
Guys, i'm going to suggest Heroin it's the better alternative to weed.

alot better effect, don't worry just use needles you find on the floor.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:26:59
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Well weed is illegal, i'm afraid your breaking the law.


I doubt you have "legally" bought all your music, but you feel no guilt with that one.


Thats a petty crime though, weed is serious.


Yeah, no. Unless you're carrying ounces, or bricks of it at one time, it isn't a serious crime.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:27:13
You must have got hold of some garbage. smoking atm. & thoroughly enjoying it.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:28:03
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You must have got hold of some garbage. smoking atm. & thoroughly enjoying it.


We've got a badass over here.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:31:24
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You must have got hold of some garbage. smoking atm. & thoroughly enjoying it.


We've got a badass over here.


Thats what my mama tells me.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:33:43
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Meanwhile- despite the blather that there would be no more drugs-crime, if only drugs wwre legal - no one who consumes weed procured by a criminal, fails to be accssory to a criminal activity.

The people who do consume weed kows this quite well.

Weed-consumption is by and large illegal, weed-procurement is illegal, and there is nt the slightest reason whatsoever for any form of tolration or liberalisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade

Cannabis

While the recreational use of (and consequently the distribution of) cannabis is illegal in most countries throughout the world, it is available by prescription or recommendation in many places, including Canada and some US states, with Washington state and Colorado being the two first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use. Importation and distribution is prohibited at the federal level.[27] Cannabis use is tolerated in some areas, most notably the Netherlands which has legalized the possession and licensed sale (but not production) of the drug. Many nations have decriminalized the possession of small amounts of marijuana. Due to the hardy nature of the Cannabis plant, marijuana is grown all across the world and is today the world's most popular illegal drug with the highest availability. Cannabis is grown legally in many countries for industrial, non-drug use (known as hemp) as well. Cannabis-Hemp may also be planted for other non-drug domestic purposes such as seasoning in Aceh.

The demand for cannabis around the world, coupled with the drug's relative ease of cultivation, makes the illicit cannabis trade one of the primary ways in which organized criminal groups finance many of their activities. In Mexico, for example, the illicit trafficking of cannabis is thought to constitute the majority of many of the cartels' earnings.[28] and thus the main way in which they (the cartels) finance many other illegal activities ranging from the purchase of other illegal drugs for trafficking and weapons that are ultimately used to commit murders (causing a burgeoning in the homicide rates of many areas of the world, but particularly Latin America)


Are you arguing that it should be legal, then, to cut out the gangsters? The demand won't vanish and if it's being supplied by (and funding) the worst people on earth, shouldn't we be thinking of alternatives?


No, I am arguing that it should be COMPLETELY repressed and that not the SLIGHTEST liberalisation should be allowed and that HM Government should make it very plain that any organisation which engages in any form of propaganda in favour of toleration will be banned and its members prosecuted.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:44:52
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No, I am arguing that it should be COMPLETELY repressed and that not the SLIGHTEST liberalisation should be allowed and that HM Government should make it very plain that any organisation which engages in any form of propaganda in favour of toleration will be banned and its members prosecuted.


May i ask why Brogo? You come off as a farily intelligent man, So I'll assume you've never tried it compared to Alcohol & prescription painkillers & anxiety meds, which have far far worse side effects.
Mood swings, destructive behavior & much more inclined to partake in illegal malicious activities to obtain their substance.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:48:11
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No, I am arguing that it should be COMPLETELY repressed and that not the SLIGHTEST liberalisation should be allowed and that HM Government should make it very plain that any organisation which engages in any form of propaganda in favour of toleration will be banned and its members prosecuted.


Is that based on the fact that prohibition has worked so well throughout history?

Do you really think that prosecuting more people/ making stricter laws would quell the demand?

Banning weed goes against scientists' opinions that it's much less harmful than legal drugs (tobacco and alcohol), logic (in keeping a harmless drug in the hands of gangsters)and economics. (Why shouldn't the government tax something that a shit ton of people already use?)

It's an antiquated law based on old-fashioned preconceptions which hold no basis in reality. The only reason it's still illegal is because 'family friendly' politicians don't want to stick their necks out and listen to science instead of middle-aged mothers who probably smoked the shit themselves when they were young.

Make it legal, set some strict boundaries (similar to those of alcohol).

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:52:40
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No, I am arguing that it should be COMPLETELY repressed and that not the SLIGHTEST liberalisation should be allowed and that HM Government should make it very plain that any organisation which engages in any form of propaganda in favour of toleration will be banned and its members prosecuted.


Is that based on the fact that prohibition has worked so well throughout history?

Do you really think that prosecuting more people/ making stricter laws would quell the demand?

Banning weed goes against scientists' opinions that it's much less harmful than legal drugs (tobacco and alcohol), logic (in keeping a harmless drug in the hands of gangsters)and economics. (Why shouldn't the government tax something that a shit ton of people already use?)

It's an antiquated law based on old-fashioned preconceptions which hold no basis in reality. The only reason it's still illegal is because 'family friendly' politicians don't want to stick their necks out and listen to science instead of middle-aged mothers who probably smoked the shit themselves when they were young.

Make it legal, set some strict boundaries (similar to those of alcohol).


If you make it legal, Chavs/Gangsters will move onto the next illegal "Badass" drug, which will be probably like Cocain or Heroin, Therefore the world will be 10x more dangerous and unstable than it already is.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 02:57:22
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No, I am arguing that it should be COMPLETELY repressed and that not the SLIGHTEST liberalisation should be allowed and that HM Government should make it very plain that any organisation which engages in any form of propaganda in favour of toleration will be banned and its members prosecuted.


May i ask why Brogo? You come off as a farily intelligent man, So I'll assume you've never tried it compared to Alcohol & prescription painkillers & anxiety meds, which have far far worse side effects.
Mood swings, destructive behavior & much more inclined to partake in illegal malicious activities to obtain their substance.


I think you are intelligent enough to read the boldened part carefully again and see that weed-trade finances a host of other activities.

Anyone who buys one single grain of weed is thereby an accomplice to subsequent crime commited with the proceeds.
These facts are KNOWN and PUBLISHED.
Therefore, a drug-user is aware of the consequences.

That being so, there is no reason whatsoever NOT to treat casual consumption of marihuana as being accessory to the ensuing crimes- including HOMICIDE.




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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:00:48
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Guys, i'm going to suggest Heroin it's the better alternative to weed.

alot better effect, don't worry just use needles you find on the floor.


Thought this was a troll thread till I read this.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:06:22
I used to smoke it fairly often (I've cut back now) and never noticed any adverse effects, in fact it used to give me the impression it got rid of my hangovers, induced hunger, made sleep easier to achieve and generally a sociable thing to have while doing mundane or little to no skill activities. All in moderation of course.

I was at the stage where I knew the people directly who were growing it and was 100% certain I wasn't funding Latin American gangs, or any gang for that matter. What a bunch of bullshit, get a grip.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:06:32
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No, I am arguing that it should be COMPLETELY repressed and that not the SLIGHTEST liberalisation should be allowed and that HM Government should make it very plain that any organisation which engages in any form of propaganda in favour of toleration will be banned and its members prosecuted.


Is that based on the fact that prohibition has worked so well throughout history?

Do you really think that prosecuting more people/ making stricter laws would quell the demand?

Banning weed goes against scientists' opinions that it's much less harmful than legal drugs (tobacco and alcohol), logic (in keeping a harmless drug in the hands of gangsters)and economics. (Why shouldn't the government tax something that a shit ton of people already use?)

It's an antiquated law based on old-fashioned preconceptions which hold no basis in reality. The only reason it's still illegal is because 'family friendly' politicians don't want to stick their necks out and listen to science instead of middle-aged mothers who probably smoked the shit themselves when they were young.

Make it legal, set some strict boundaries (similar to those of alcohol).


Since you mention it, I am absolutely certain that regular mandatory drugstests at universities followed by immediate expulsion in case of a positive result would have a most beneficial effect.

LIKEWISE, I am quite positive that the Malayan approach - death sentencing for Possession of a quantity of 1 kg or more, would have a most beneficial effect.

That's just 2 examples.

No toleration, no liberalisation, none whatsoever.


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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:07:07
I guess I should be thankful I moved back to California. Weed is plentiful, easy to get and the police won't take it away from you unless you're a bitch/asshole.

I went to a Black Sabbath concert last night and in the line waiting to get in people were smoking pot and there were cops everywhere.

What I'm saying is weed is great, so many different flavors and it makes you feel good. Not like crack or meth.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:10:18
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Anyone who buys one single grain of weed is thereby an accomplice to subsequent crime commited with the proceeds.
These facts are KNOWN and PUBLISHED.
Therefore, a drug-user is aware of the consequences.

That being so, there is no reason whatsoever NOT to treat casual consumption of marihuana as being accessory to the ensuing crimes- including HOMICIDE.


That's fairly presumptuous, though. When I go back home (I only smoke during summer), I buy all of my weed from a friend who grows his own plants. The only crime I am aiding when I purchase anything is his dealing weed. If he were allowed to get a licence and pay taxes, it wouldn't be a crime.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:14:42
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Anyone who buys one single grain of weed is thereby an accomplice to subsequent crime commited with the proceeds.
These facts are KNOWN and PUBLISHED.
Therefore, a drug-user is aware of the consequences.

That being so, there is no reason whatsoever NOT to treat casual consumption of marihuana as being accessory to the ensuing crimes- including HOMICIDE.


That's fairly presumptuous, though. When I go back home (I only smoke during summer), I buy all of my weed from a friend who grows his own plants. The only crime I am aiding when I purchase anything is his dealing weed. If he were allowed to get a licence and pay taxes, it wouldn't be a crime.


But since he HASN'T got a licence,you ARE accesory to a crime.
Since you know it, you are a KNOWING accomplice to that crime.



My approach is not casuistic, but apodictic.
Translation:
Not 'if - then' but rather 'Thou shallt not'.

That's a loose translation, but I think it aids comprehension.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:16:16
I think this chap is one of these people that smoke a J and start pulling a whitey while everyone else is sitting there all chilled out, laughing at him Haha

But in my opinion of weed, is that it should only be consumed by those that like it and can, if you want to say handle the effects of it. I have a brother that doesn't like smoking it because he feels paranoid were I feel 100% chilled out, Paranoia is at the bottom of my effects. Everyone has a different buzz. However I'm not saying that it should necessarily be consumed as it makes your head a fried after a long, continuous time smoking it, say almost everyday for a year. It also takes its toll on your banks account, while making your skin and teeth all f**ked up and dirty, while wrecking(probably more the tabacco's fault) your fitness. Its also addictive and anyone who says its not either doesn't smoke enough of it or is lying but its all in your head unlike every other drug.

But having said all this I see no real reason why not to smoke it as long as its not every day. I'm only after going off it now 9 days after over a year none stop smoking everyday. I'll still smoke it though just not so often and after my body has time to recover. then maybe i'll smoke it 1-2 every month.

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:30:35
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Anyone who buys one single grain of weed is thereby an accomplice to subsequent crime commited with the proceeds.
These facts are KNOWN and PUBLISHED.
Therefore, a drug-user is aware of the consequences.

That being so, there is no reason whatsoever NOT to treat casual consumption of marihuana as being accessory to the ensuing crimes- including HOMICIDE.


That's fairly presumptuous, though. When I go back home (I only smoke during summer), I buy all of my weed from a friend who grows his own plants. The only crime I am aiding when I purchase anything is his dealing weed. If he were allowed to get a licence and pay taxes, it wouldn't be a crime.


But since he HASN'T got a licence,you ARE accesory to a crime.
Since you know it, you are a KNOWING accomplice to that crime.



My approach is not casuistic, but apodictic.
Translation:
Not 'if - then' but rather 'Thou shallt not'.

That's a loose translation, but I think it aids comprehension.


So, as a hypothetical situation (knowing that you don't like 'if, then's)... If we had a law in England which banned people from eating pork because pigs are dirty animals, would you, without questioning it at all, just say 'ok' and throw out all of your bacon, never to touch pork again? Pork, alcohol, classical music- anything that you enjoy and doesn't harm others.

I understand you don't like progressiveness (is that a word?) but I don't understand why you'd opt to enforce stronger laws to ban something with no victims.

Your point was that buying weed aids criminals, my point was that it doesn't have to. It's a symptom of the laws we have in place. Laws that can, will and should change. Would you honestly prefer to be back in the old days, seeing people imprisoned for life because they stole a loaf of bread? Where do you draw the line with being a stick in the mud?

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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 03:38:24
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Anyone who buys one single grain of weed is thereby an accomplice to subsequent crime commited with the proceeds.
These facts are KNOWN and PUBLISHED.
Therefore, a drug-user is aware of the consequences.

That being so, there is no reason whatsoever NOT to treat casual consumption of marihuana as being accessory to the ensuing crimes- including HOMICIDE.


That's fairly presumptuous, though. When I go back home (I only smoke during summer), I buy all of my weed from a friend who grows his own plants. The only crime I am aiding when I purchase anything is his dealing weed. If he were allowed to get a licence and pay taxes, it wouldn't be a crime.


But since he HASN'T got a licence,you ARE accesory to a crime.
Since you know it, you are a KNOWING accomplice to that crime.



My approach is not casuistic, but apodictic.
Translation:
Not 'if - then' but rather 'Thou shallt not'.

That's a loose translation, but I think it aids comprehension.


So, as a hypothetical situation (knowing that you don't like 'if, then's)... If we had a law in England which banned people from eating pork because pigs are dirty animals, would you, without questioning it at all, just say 'ok' and throw out all of your bacon, never to touch pork again? Pork, alcohol, classical music- anything that you enjoy and doesn't harm others.

I understand you don't like progressiveness (is that a word?) but I don't understand why you'd opt to enforce stronger laws to ban something with no victims.

Your point was that buying weed aids criminals, my point was that it doesn't have to. It's a symptom of the laws we have in place. Laws that can, will and should change. Would you honestly prefer to be back in the old days, seeing people imprisoned for life because they stole a loaf of bread? Where do you draw the line with being a stick in the mud?


As it happens, there ARE victims. So your example fails.

If there were none - and if THC was neither addictive, nor addled your brain, nor had a causal link with other directly attributable crimes - I would treat weed just like jacking off. Jack all you like, I wont say a thing, although I might giggle.
With the proviso that as it happens, there is a UN ban on legalising weed. One of those nutty South American states was recently notified that it was in breach of that UN ban.

So, there.

I don't know about hanging people for stealing bread, but the repeal of the Decree Nisi [voluntary divorce ] would certainly get my vote. See, it happens to involve Perjury.

I'm quite aware that weed-users like to state the weed-use is a victimless crime, but as it happens, that is a big fat lie.
It is no victim-less crimee. This fact is known and published.
So, to state the Victimless Crime Myth, that is the Big Lie of the Weed-head.



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Posted on Wed Aug 28, 2013 04:19:59
A death sentence for smoking weed.

Obviously your trolling for reactions. But if you aren't then WOW.... Just WOW.

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