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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 16:17:48
I've owned two manuals and one automatic, all have been fun to drive. The auto more so due to the car (;BMW 528i);. Wouldn't bother me if something is auto or manual.

Have to admit auto in traffic is a gods send.

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Posted on Sun Jun 16, 2013 17:53:19
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nothing but a manual transmission for offroad :;;0


Nothing but a manual for off road? Take it you';ve never had the joy of matching winch speeds with wheel speeds on muddy terrain. Auto all the way for off road.


manual is better, a winch works no matter what, But i would like to see you take your automatic on the steep and long downhill descents i do in a manual, even in low your still eating brake pads like a mother f**ker, plus alot of strain on your torque converter. manual off-road ftw!

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Posted on Sun Jun 16, 2013 18:18:10
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nothing but a manual transmission for offroad :;;;0


Nothing but a manual for off road? Take it you';;ve never had the joy of matching winch speeds with wheel speeds on muddy terrain. Auto all the way for off road.


manual is better, a winch works no matter what, But i would like to see you take your automatic on the steep and long downhill descents i do in a manual, even in low your still eating brake pads like a mother f**ker, plus alot of strain on your torque converter. manual off-road ftw!


A winch works no matter what, you're correct, but if your winch is pulling at say... 80 feet a minute, and your driving at less, then it puts too much strain on your winch.

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Posted on Sun Jun 16, 2013 21:21:36
5000lb warn winch isn't going to strain too much pulling a less then 2000lb truck tho

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Posted on Sun Jun 16, 2013 21:30:14
Every time I use my winch I'm completely stuck, not moving whatsoever. That's what a winch is for;

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Posted on Sun Jun 16, 2013 22:38:45
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Every time I use my winch I';m completely stuck, not moving whatsoever. That';s what a winch is for;;


Warn? Cheap crap. 8274 is OK. Get a GP84 running on Bow2's. Pulls a 2 1/2 ton 90 like it's a paper bag. But still, winching faster than you're driving isn't any good for the winch. Automatic & front and rear diff lock makes the most of bad terrain.

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 00:09:29
Maybe they're disappearing in the US but in the UK they're still the most common, I've still not driven a car that isn't a manual transmission.

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 06:04:36
meh, warn has never let me down, and the price is right. and i just finished welding the spider gears on my rear 3rd member just have to put it back in. lockers are the way to go but i have 2 other complete rear ends so the poor mans locker is perfect for me. Just need to find another 22re to dro;p in since mine shit the bed, blew the head gasket and probly warped the head. only down fall of the 22re. other then the lack of power. what do you wheel spliff

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:33:21
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meh, warn has never let me down, and the price is right. and i just finished welding the spider gears on my rear 3rd member just have to put it back in. lockers are the way to go but i have 2 other complete rear ends so the poor mans locker is perfect for me. Just need to find another 22re to dro;p in since mine shit the bed, blew the head gasket and probly warped the head. only down fall of the 22re. other then the lack of power. what do you wheel spliff


I co-drive a Land Rover 90 tray back, and sometimes drive / co-drive a Space framed Disco. Seems like we take them out maybe 3-4 times a year, but spend 25 hours a week working on them. :;P

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 13:19:34
I actually had to learn to drive in an automatic whilst being able to drive a manual.
When driving a manual, using the clutch is 100%; natural to do.
Driving an automatic, Id had to concentrate on driving without the clutch, whilst driving a manual I didnt have to concentrate on using the clutch, as using the clutch happened 'automatic', without any thinking.

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 16:18:22
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meh, warn has never let me down, and the price is right. and i just finished welding the spider gears on my rear 3rd member just have to put it back in. lockers are the way to go but i have 2 other complete rear ends so the poor mans locker is perfect for me. Just need to find another 22re to dro;p in since mine shit the bed, blew the head gasket and probly warped the head. only down fall of the 22re. other then the lack of power. what do you wheel spliff


I co-drive a Land Rover 90 tray back, and sometimes drive / co-drive a Space framed Disco. Seems like we take them out maybe 3-4 times a year, but spend 25 hours a week working on them. :;;P


I thought land rovers were reliable? Was up the mountain at a mud pit the other day with some buddies and some kid brought up his moms brand new $70,000 range rover lol it was hilarious. Mom's going to be pissed! Had to pull his ass out twice before we left

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 16:23:22
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I thought land rovers were reliable?


They're capable, not necessarily reliable, especially as they get older. The individual components are great, like the engine, chassis, etc, but the bits that hold it all together need constant minor maintenance to keep them at their best, as they're effectively just a massive Meccano toy and rattle themselves to pieces.

I've currently got two vintage Land Rovers, and had about a dozen of various ages over the years.



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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 18:57:19
Good to know, parts for them here are super expensive I know that

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Posted on Mon Jun 17, 2013 19:57:12
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Good to know, parts for them here are super expensive I know that


Really? They're dirt cheap in the UK, even new, as long as you don't go to a main dealer. By far the cheapest 4x4's/classic cars I've ever worked on.



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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:16:32
Yeah, land rovers are about as reliable as a smackhead. Constantly upgrading, changing, repairing, servicing... Just stripped down both entire axles to their bare bones, both Diffs are totally knackered, and at £1200 a diff, it's not good news :;/

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Posted on Thu Jun 20, 2013 05:25:41
My first car was an old toyota truck like the ones you see crazy african gang drug lords drive around with 10 people in the back carrying AK-47's. I currently work as a valet and its extremely rare to see a manual where I live.

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Posted on Thu Jun 20, 2013 16:46:19
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Yeah, land rovers are about as reliable as a smackhead. Constantly upgrading, changing, repairing, servicing... Just stripped down both entire axles to their bare bones, both Diffs are totally knackered, and at £1200 a diff, it';s not good news :;;/


I just got a pair of diffs for mine. £50.

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Posted on Sun Jun 23, 2013 14:53:36
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Yeah, land rovers are about as reliable as a smackhead. Constantly upgrading, changing, repairing, servicing... Just stripped down both entire axles to their bare bones, both Diffs are totally knackered, and at £1200 a diff, it';;;s not good news :;;;;/


I just got a pair of diffs for mine. £50.


ARB air locking diffs, with a few parts modified & hardened.... :;;|o A bit more heavy duty than standard land rover cheddar diffs :;;);; But a fair bit more expensive Add a few grand for Ashcrofts shafts, CVs etc etc etc, and you can see Why each axle is worth more than most cars on the road today haha

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Posted on Mon Jun 24, 2013 06:28:37
damn that sounds pricey, gotta post some pics of this beast, i take it you have on-board air? that's bad-ass, what type of off-roading do you do?

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Posted on Sun Jun 30, 2013 19:49:50
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damn that sounds pricey, gotta post some pics of this beast, i take it you have on-board air? that';s bad-ass, what type of off-roading do you do?


Yeah, onboard 12v compressor, not sure at what output though. The main type of off roading we do are Winch Trialling. Basically, just getting your truck to fairly inaccessible places..... Tops of hills, bottoms of gullies.... up and over large rock sections. Depending on the event, it's either just a point to point event, or sometimes its orienteering / punch hunting, where you take a big space, usually specially built for the off road community, and you need to get your truck to say 20 or 40 different places in the area, which are pre-determined. It's great fun.

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Posted on Mon Jul 01, 2013 01:01:16
When I bought my first car I was looking for a manual trans. I found such a great deal on an automatic car that I bought it, and am still driving it today. Audi S8 would be my dream car, definitely a stick shift.

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Posted on Mon Jul 01, 2013 01:21:33
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When I bought my first car I was looking for a manual trans. I found such a great deal on an automatic car that I bought it, and am still driving it today. Audi S8 would be my dream car, definitely a stick shift.


why would you want a stick on an 8 speed car that has tiptronic transmission?

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Posted on Tue Jul 02, 2013 02:09:54
I think the transmission of the car should depend on the driver style and what they want from the car. Most people use the car as a tool; they simply want to get from point A to point B, they don't care or have a feel for the car, they merely operate it. For these people they should get themselves an automatic.

If you are someone that has a love for driving, you feel the movements of the car and you don't operate it, but are at one with it, there is no other option, you need a manual!

I drive a manual, and I'm a young driver, for me there is nothing more exciting to me than utilising my car through the gears. If want to race someone at the lights? I can redline it! Want to skid round a corner (I have a front wheel drive car)? simply flick the ESP off, enter the corner too quickly, dip the clutch, wait for the car to kick, power on through! without my gears and clutch I'd be scuppered! For me there is nothing exciting about an automatic. You can control when the car changes gear, and change down a gear and boot it past someone, but they are too unresponsive. I want to change gear in a millisecond, not wait for the car to agree and do it.

The day I lose my love for driving, I no longer want to live on this planet. Although if petrol prices in the UK don't stop rising that day may come rather soon!

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Posted on Tue Jul 02, 2013 04:19:02
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I think the transmission of the car should depend on the driver style and what they want from the car. Most people use the car as a tool; they simply want to get from point A to point B, they don't care or have a feel for the car, they merely operate it. For these people they should get themselves an automatic.

If you are someone that has a love for driving, you feel the movements of the car and you don't operate it, but are at one with it, there is no other option, you need a manual!

I drive a manual, and I'm a young driver, for me there is nothing more exciting to me than utilising my car through the gears. If want to race someone at the lights? I can redline it! Want to skid round a corner (I have a front wheel drive car)? simply flick the ESP off, enter the corner too quickly, dip the clutch, wait for the car to kick, power on through! without my gears and clutch I'd be scuppered! For me there is nothing exciting about an automatic. You can control when the car changes gear, and change down a gear and boot it past someone, but they are too unresponsive. I want to change gear in a millisecond, not wait for the car to agree and do it.

The day I lose my love for driving, I no longer want to live on this planet. Although if petrol prices in the UK don't stop rising that day may come rather soon!


typical young driver, but you have to remember it's not a racetrack.

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Posted on Wed Jul 03, 2013 02:56:18
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damn that sounds pricey, gotta post some pics of this beast, i take it you have on-board air? that';s bad-ass, what type of off-roading do you do?


Yeah, onboard 12v compressor, not sure at what output though. The main type of off roading we do are Winch Trialling. Basically, just getting your truck to fairly inaccessible places..... Tops of hills, bottoms of gullies.... up and over large rock sections. Depending on the event, it's either just a point to point event, or sometimes its orienteering / punch hunting, where you take a big space, usually specially built for the off road community, and you need to get your truck to say 20 or 40 different places in the area, which are pre-determined. It's great fun.
sounds like a blast!.Ħjust grab a case of cold ones and a few buddies and take/make new trails. then usually end at the mud pits until we get stuck lol.that or find new lakes to go fishing.



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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 02:53:22
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I think the transmission of the car should depend on the driver style and what they want from the car. Most people use the car as a tool; they simply want to get from point A to point B, they don't care or have a feel for the car, they merely operate it. For these people they should get themselves an automatic.

If you are someone that has a love for driving, you feel the movements of the car and you don't operate it, but are at one with it, there is no other option, you need a manual!

I drive a manual, and I'm a young driver, for me there is nothing more exciting to me than utilising my car through the gears. If want to race someone at the lights? I can redline it! Want to skid round a corner (I have a front wheel drive car)? simply flick the ESP off, enter the corner too quickly, dip the clutch, wait for the car to kick, power on through! without my gears and clutch I'd be scuppered! For me there is nothing exciting about an automatic. You can control when the car changes gear, and change down a gear and boot it past someone, but they are too unresponsive. I want to change gear in a millisecond, not wait for the car to agree and do it.

The day I lose my love for driving, I no longer want to live on this planet. Although if petrol prices in the UK don't stop rising that day may come rather soon!


i like to have fun when i drive, ergo the manual
as a dream car, i would absolutely love to drive the caparo t1. absolutely magnificent car. not a true manual, but you still have control over what gear it's in with the paddle shifter.

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Posted on Thu Aug 15, 2013 23:02:08
I am currently driving a mercedes a class. It's not a "true" manual but its still great fun to drive. also it looks very cool.

my previous car was a volvo c30 which transmission system felt more directly somehow.

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Posted on Fri Aug 16, 2013 00:05:19
Yeah, I love my manual car.. Keeps the fun in driving!!

Day to day is the MG ZR MKII 1.4 and my project car is the MGZR MKI 160 1.8VVC.. Just rebuilt the engine from scratch and am putting it back in on the weekend!

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Posted on Thu Oct 10, 2013 17:41:27
more manual fun come winter

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