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Mr_Capitalist

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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 13:25:25
6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.

Last Edited: Wed Jan 09, 2013 13:27:57

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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:37:35
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It's an example of bad mathematical notation; the equivalent of a dangling participle in grammar.

More accurately, it's an ambiguous misuse of notation used to start troll threads every couple of months.

I'm guessing ED is currently on a forum ban, yes?


Yep.

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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:51:44
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Spurtung may be a childish dick




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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:54:27
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what makes more sense?
A/B*(B+C) or A/(B*(B+C))


They both make sense equally.

when applied to the OP?

riiiiiiiiiight.


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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:59:46
Ans = 1.


By Cathead [1581564]
I swear my brother always tells me that 0.999' = 1.

Then he shows me some clever way of doing it that I never remember until I come to the conclusion that maths is broken.



If im not mistaken, the trick in that is in one of the steps where technically the action, while looking logical, is actually deviding by 0.. and as any calculator will tell you, things devided by 0 = MATH ERROR


No but seriously.. Say No to legalised scamming, Its just logical.
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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 15:01:32
Rules:

1. Calculations must be done from left to right.
2. Calculations in brackets (parenthesis) are done first. When you have more than one set of brackets, do the inner brackets first.
3. Exponents (or radicals) must be done next.
4. Multiply and divide in the order the operations occur.
5. Add and subtract in the order the operations occur.

So going by these rules that would make the answer 9. Guess I was wrong at first. Haven't done a problem like this since I have been out of school.

So on that note the proper way is:
6/2(1+2) add parenthesis first
6/2(3) or 6/2x3 solve from left to right
3x3
9

Last Edited: Wed Jan 09, 2013 15:20:24
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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 16:24:18
By blue_eyed_angel [1551642]
6/2(2+1)
6/2(3)
6/6
1


By blue_eyed_angel [1551642]
Rules:

1. Calculations must be done from left to right.
2. Calculations in brackets (parenthesis) are done first. When you have more than one set of brackets, do the inner brackets first.
3. Exponents (or radicals) must be done next.
4. Multiply and divide in the order the operations occur.
5. Add and subtract in the order the operations occur.

So going by these rules that would make the answer 9. Guess I was wrong at first. Haven't done a problem like this since I have been out of school.

So on that note the proper way is:
6/2(1+2) add parenthesis first
6/2(3) or 6/2x3 solve from left to right
3x3
9


So uhm which answer are you going with then as you appear to have contradicted yourself

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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 16:39:59
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By blue_eyed_angel [1551642]
6/2(2+1)
6/2(3)
6/6
1


By blue_eyed_angel [1551642]
Rules:

1. Calculations must be done from left to right.
2. Calculations in brackets (parenthesis) are done first. When you have more than one set of brackets, do the inner brackets first.
3. Exponents (or radicals) must be done next.
4. Multiply and divide in the order the operations occur.
5. Add and subtract in the order the operations occur.

So going by these rules that would make the answer 9. Guess I was wrong at first. Haven't done a problem like this since I have been out of school.

So on that note the proper way is:
6/2(1+2) add parenthesis first
6/2(3) or 6/2x3 solve from left to right
3x3
9


So uhm which answer are you going with then as you appear to have contradicted yourself



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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 17:18:15
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6/2(2+1)
6/2(3)
6/6
1


By blue_eyed_angel [1551642]
Rules:

1. Calculations must be done from left to right.
2. Calculations in brackets (parenthesis) are done first. When you have more than one set of brackets, do the inner brackets first.
3. Exponents (or radicals) must be done next.
4. Multiply and divide in the order the operations occur.
5. Add and subtract in the order the operations occur.

So going by these rules that would make the answer 9. Guess I was wrong at first. Haven't done a problem like this since I have been out of school.

So on that note the proper way is:
6/2(1+2) add parenthesis first
6/2(3) or 6/2x3 solve from left to right
3x3
9


So uhm which answer are you going with then as you appear to have contradicted yourself


Well now that I googled it and seen the proper way to work the problem my final answer is 9. Sometimes you just need to look stuff up to remember what the order of operation is.

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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 19:52:53
wats maths??

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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 20:03:48

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Spurtung may be a childish dick




You could read that as having been given permission.



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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 20:53:18
*facepalm*

People still are arguing over this? There is not really a correct answer because the question is not clear what it is asking due to improper mathematical notation. Anyone who actually studied math would never write it that way, they would either write it as a fraction or put parenthesis to specify what they mean so it is not as ambiguous as it is in the OP.

By Mr_Capitalist [1422486]
6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.


Its also the same as 6/(2*(2+1)) = 6/(2*3)= 6/6 = 1 .

Last Edited: Wed Jan 09, 2013 21:14:50
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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 21:46:22
I truly wish I could find math as fascinating as some people obviously do but any subject as black and white as math holds no interest what so ever. I live for the grey areas in life.
That said, following the different interpretations and arguments put forth here are hilarious...


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Posted on Wed Jan 09, 2013 22:13:42
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I truly wish I could find math as fascinating as some people obviously do but any subject as black and white as math holds no interest what so ever. I live for the grey areas in life.


Plus, you know, maths is boring.


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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 00:46:31
Heh. Here's how google solved it. It got 9.

https://www.google.com/search?q=6%2F2%282%2B1%29&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 01:02:55
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6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.


Its also the same as 6/(2*(2+1)) = 6/(2*3)= 6/6 = 1 .


no, it really isn't.

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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 01:25:50
Math, it's a serious issue bro.

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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 01:29:18
By Mr_Capitalist [1422486]
6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.


this.

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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 02:57:49
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It's an example of bad mathematical notation; the equivalent of a dangling participle in grammar.

More accurately, it's an ambiguous misuse of notation used to start troll threads every couple of months.

I'm guessing ED is currently on a forum ban, yes?


This, also what Ted said. That said, the answer is 1. It isn't that hard, when you us a "/" in a mathematical equation, it denotes a goddamn fraction. Done. End of discussion. Just think of it that way.


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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 06:38:48
Word problem motherf**kers:

You are selling apples and have 6. Two groups of sheisty teenagers come up. You're ready to throw down because of how sketchy they look, but all they want is some apples. Each group has a couple and a lonely looking third wheel. IF ALL APPLES ARE SPLIT EQUALLY AMONG SKEEZY TEENAGERS, HOW MANY APPLES DID EACH TEENAGER GET?

Answer=1


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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 08:39:48
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By Mr_Capitalist [1422486]
6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.


Its also the same as 6/(2*(2+1)) = 6/(2*3)= 6/6 = 1 .


no, it really isn't.


Yes, it really is. It can be interpreted either way.

The reason people use parenthesis is so it can only interpreted one way, hence why the original question is flawed. The whole reason this question shows up on forums all the time is to start arguments on which interpretation is correct.

Last Edited: Thu Jan 10, 2013 08:47:26
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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 08:47:08
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6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.


Its also the same as 6/(2*(2+1)) = 6/(2*3)= 6/6 = 1 .


no, it really isn't.


Yes, it really is. It can be interpreted either way.


No, you can program a calculator different ways. It CAN be interpreted in different ways, but only one of them is right. HINT: Mr. Capitalist is wrong lol.


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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:01:59
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By TedThomas [887131]
By Mr_Capitalist [1422486]
6/2(2+1) is the same as (6/2)(2+1)
(3)(3)
9

also, the fact that 1 has more votes than 9 is very, very, VERY scary.


Its also the same as 6/(2*(2+1)) = 6/(2*3)= 6/6 = 1 .


no, it really isn't.


Yes, it really is. It can be interpreted either way.


No, you can program a calculator different ways. It CAN be interpreted in different ways, but only one of them is right. HINT: Mr. Capitalist is wrong lol.


Not really, which one is right kind of depends on what your interpretation of the question is and that would depend on what you were trying to calculate.

If you take is as (6/2)*(2+1) its 9, if you take it to mean 6÷2*(2+1) then its 1.

You could argue that since it doesnt have a parenthesis then its obviously the second one but the way it is written could easily interpret as a fraction since it is not specified.

The correct way to write it in order to avoid interpretation (without adding parenthesis) would be either... or


The whole basis of this troll topic is for people to argue over a question that isnt clear what it is asking.

Last Edited: Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:09:13
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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:03:54
As reasonable as that sounds, f**k you its 1



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Posted on Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:20:44
All I am saying is the only reason this question even exists is because it is designed to be ambiguous pretty much just to start arguments in forums about which interpretation is correct. The reason it has been floating around on the internet for so many years is because you can make arguments either way.

Moral of the story : Someone who actually was trying to calculate something wouldnt write it like that, so this question is meaningless.

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Posted on Fri Jan 11, 2013 06:41:18
I go for 9 as well. Its the BIDMAS you mother suckers. and if you go for programming there are more to add to the BIDMAS such as the negation, comparisons and logical operators where expression can also evaluate to true or false using the calculations.






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Posted on Sat Jan 12, 2013 00:45:45
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i cant do maths (2 votes)


Both 1 and 9 would make sense to me. I don't know which order to do this shit in. Aren't there different schools of thought?


math is exact, there's no room for error on the math's part, only the mathtards.


I swear my brother always tells me that 0.999' = 1.

Then he shows me some clever way of doing it that I never remember until I come to the conclusion that maths is broken.


I am currently studying Mathematics at university, we got taught this about 5 weeks ago

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Posted on Sat Jan 12, 2013 01:21:48
9.

If anybody else made it a different answer, then they clearly need to go back to school.

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Posted on Sat Jan 12, 2013 03:34:05

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9.

If anybody else made it a different answer, then they clearly need to go back to school.


So, out by the bike racks after third period?



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Posted on Sat Jan 12, 2013 05:13:26
It equals 0 obviously.

6/2(2+1)
= a/b(b+c))
= a/a
= a/√a
= a/√[(-a)(-a)]
= a/√(-a)√(-a)
= a/a^2
= a-a
= 0


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