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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 16:25:00
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By LSD [883567]
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
No actually what it says about the USA is that we have a written Constitution that prevents our government from denying us those natural rights that all men have... NATURALLY. |
You're a little confused there: life is a natural right. Giving everyone the means to end everyone else's natural right to life is NOT a natural right; it's simply an antiquated measure to protect a batshit-paranoid nation from invasion.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
When a group gets together (government) and takes away another groups (citizens) natural rights (self-preservation, private property, pursuit of happiness, etc., etc.) then those actions can and usually do lead to slavery. |
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
I lament the loss of innocent life, but I do not understand how the loss of ones natural rights will address that loss. It may act as a short term salve and a band-aid, but it will not prevent the next mass murder or senseless act of violence |
Present day: "Looks like you have a few guns on you. Let me just buzz you in so you can visit the children"
With gun control measures: "Why are you carrying a gun around? No really, what the f**k are you doing?"
Notice the difference? It's not a "short term" solution. If you strip the thick f**ks of their weapons, they won't be able to pull shit like this any more. I know it sounds insane, but if you open your eyes a little, you might be able to understand it.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
it will only serve to enfeeble the masses, and make us impotent in the face of potential tyranny or actual tyranny. |
Note how i mentioned. "Impotence in the face of tyranny". What the f**k does that even mean? In case those crafty Brits board their ships and launch an invasion? Or in case an oil-rich country decides they've run out of skyscrapers to demolish and instead opt to mobilise all 12 of their armed forces and invade?
Or maybe it's one of those "hurrrr government is a necessary evil but we the people and we can depose them and install someone else" ideas that so many Americans seem to believe (mostly ones who also believe the confederate flag is some kind of symbol of freedom).
You've all had guns for the past...200 years? How many times has the government displayed a tyrannical ideology?
Slavery
Internment without trial
Unlawful invasion of other countries
Genocide
How many times have the armed people opposed this?
That's right: zero times. Never. Ever.
You've, as a nation, lost the right to pretend your weapons exist as a means of keeping the government in check. It's hilarious to see people use it in this day and age... |
Oh good, LSD is back... the 'Lord Holier-than-Thou' has returned, and it would seem just in time for him to replace the equally lovable, Limetree. Fun.
You should know all about what "impotence" means, LSD, so I won't try to explain it for you.
I am not going to debate this issue with you, because you have no fair understanding of what our Constitution means, as you were born and raised in a country that has little of the traditions of freedom from tyranny, and none of the written guarantees against a governments prohibition against infringement of natural rights, so I guess I shouldn't hold your ignorance against you, as you are simply a product of your environment I suppose.
Personally, I care little what those across the pond think of the USA, and it's Constitution, or the reasons some of us consider it to be a document worth protecting in its current form.
We in the USA will debate the issue, and we will bicker amongst ourselves, and we will decide what action need to be taken, and no consideration will be given to the views of the rest of the world on this topic, as your views are simply not important to issues of the US Constitution.
I do not display "batshit-paranoia", with regards to this issue. I display a sensible respect for the possible.
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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 16:29:11
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Just read something about what i posted earlier,mass shootings (US) have sky rocketed,the increase started around time of Cnn(24/7 rolling news??) and have got even worse with the internet.
Get someone whos ill,pissed off to feck and wanting take it out on everyone else..to be remembered one way or other,getting immortalized forever in history as ''the guy who killed xxxxxx''.
Buckle down because i think it wont stop and will increase.How things are reported has changed completely from when i was a kid..almost film like how things are done now.
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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 16:45:48
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By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Oh good, LSD is back... the 'Lord Holier-than-Thou' has returned, and it would seem just in time for him to replace the equally lovable, Limetree. Fun. |
I've missed you too (hearts no longer work, so i'll just say heart. Imagine that's a heart, though).
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
You should know all about what "impotence" means, LSD, so I won't try to explain it for you. |
You promised you'd never tell
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
I am not going to debate this issue with you, because you have no fair understanding of what our Constitution means, as you were born and raised in a country that has little of the traditions of freedom from tyranny |
You know, of all the words you could have used, tradition really was the worst. A lot of our freedom from "tyranny" comes from just that: tradition.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
and none of the written guarantees against a governments prohibition against infringement of natural rights, so I guess I shouldn't hold your ignorance against you, as you are simply a product of your environment I suppose. |
Thanks for demonstrating your lack of understanding of the UK's political structure.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Personally, I care little what those across the pond think of the USA, and it's Constitution, or the reasons some of us consider it to be a document worth protecting in its current form. |
Good for you, because i honestly believe it's a rag of paper that the mentally inept cling to out of fear of change/paranoia.
How many Brits have their dicks stuck in the Magna Carta? That's right: none.
How many Yanks have their dicks stuck in the US constitution? That's right: all of them that own a deadly weapon.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
We in the USA will debate the issue, and we will bicker amongst ourselves, and we will decide what action need to be taken, and no consideration will be given to the views of the rest of the world on this topic, as your views are simply not important to issues of the US Constitution.
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Translation: the crazy nut-f**ks will continue to keep their fingers in their ears, ignoring the steps the rest of the world have taken towards civilisation.
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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 17:13:31
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very sad. if only they would kill themselves before taking the lives of others
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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 17:18:28
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By LSD [883567]
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Oh good, LSD is back... the 'Lord Holier-than-Thou' has returned, and it would seem just in time for him to replace the equally lovable, Limetree. Fun. |
I've missed you too (hearts no longer work, so i'll just say heart. Imagine that's a heart, though).
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
You should know all about what "impotence" means, LSD, so I won't try to explain it for you. |
You promised you'd never tell
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
I am not going to debate this issue with you, because you have no fair understanding of what our Constitution means, as you were born and raised in a country that has little of the traditions of freedom from tyranny |
You know, of all the words you could have used, tradition really was the worst. A lot of our freedom from "tyranny" comes from just that: tradition.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
and none of the written guarantees against a governments prohibition against infringement of natural rights, so I guess I shouldn't hold your ignorance against you, as you are simply a product of your environment I suppose. |
Thanks for demonstrating your lack of understanding of the UK's political structure.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Personally, I care little what those across the pond think of the USA, and it's Constitution, or the reasons some of us consider it to be a document worth protecting in its current form. |
Good for you, because i honestly believe it's a rag of paper that the mentally inept cling to out of fear of change/paranoia.
How many Brits have their dicks stuck in the Magna Carta? That's right: none.
How many Yanks have their dicks stuck in the US constitution? That's right: all of them that own a deadly weapon.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
We in the USA will debate the issue, and we will bicker amongst ourselves, and we will decide what action need to be taken, and no consideration will be given to the views of the rest of the world on this topic, as your views are simply not important to issues of the US Constitution.
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Translation: the crazy nut-f**ks will continue to keep their fingers in their ears, ignoring the steps the rest of the world have taken towards civilisation. |
I understand your political system just fine. It is a fine system currently, but without a written Constitution you guys are pretty much at the mercy of a continuation of a benevolent government, and since your government doesn't affirm your natural rights as free men... well, you get the drift. But, that is were the tradition comes into play... see you guys have a long tradition of being ruled, whereas the USA has a much shorter tradition of government by the people, for the people.
Like I say, I don't care what steps you guys, or what the "rest of the world" has supposedly done in an effort to pretend to be civilized... all I have to do is turn on the news to see that there is no such thing as completely civilized place on earth. There are lots of places that do better than the USA, but none of them are completely perfect.
No, I will take our written Constitution all day long, but we in the good old USA do thank your ancestors for that Magna Carta, as it was a very inspirational document.
Later, dude. I look forward to another year of you being banned, which I am am hopeful won't be long in coming.
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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 21:16:03
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Its funny how the media handles death, this is a shocking tragedy and is a very hot topic all around the world and my heart goes out to the families, Yet there is something happening right now that will kill and harm many thousands of people if not hundreds of thousands world wide and yet you hear almost nothing about it.
Fukushima....mans greatest mistake.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 00:57:23
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Its funny how the media handles death, this is a shocking tragedy and is a very hot topic all around the world and my heart goes out to the families, Yet there is something happening right now that will kill and harm many thousands of people if not hundreds of thousands world wide and yet you hear almost nothing about it.
Fukushima....mans greatest mistake.
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some things sell the media's product and other things dont. the media doesnt care at all about any issue they talk about, they just want to sell their product like everyone else.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 02:11:33
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Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 05:37:45
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By SuburbanProphet [1566696]
Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
This.
If you want to discuss gun control or whatever the heck you are talking about in this thread do it somewhere else. I should be shocked at the lack of sensitivity and shame here but this is Torn so nothing surprises me any more.
People died. CHILDREN died. And you guys just end up talking about the same rubbish over and over again and it makes me sick.
For the love of Odin show some respect.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 08:51:57
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By SuburbanProphet [1566696]
Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
This.
If you want to discuss gun control or whatever the heck you are talking about in this thread do it somewhere else. I should be shocked at the lack of sensitivity and shame here but this is Torn so nothing surprises me any more.
People died. CHILDREN died. And you guys just end up talking about the same rubbish over and over again and it makes me sick.
For the love of Odin show some respect. |
You're demanding we show respect, and then beseeching us for the sake of a mythological pagan god -- the god of fury, battle and death, no less.
Was that some kind of joke?
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:49:08
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By SuburbanProphet [1566696]
Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
I agree.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 13:08:04
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By SuburbanProphet [1566696]
Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
This.
If you want to discuss gun control or whatever the heck you are talking about in this thread do it somewhere else. I should be shocked at the lack of sensitivity and shame here but this is Torn so nothing surprises me any more.
People died. CHILDREN died. And you guys just end up talking about the same rubbish over and over again and it makes me sick.
For the love of Odin show some respect. |
And in relation to this, it is exactly what every US media outlet, politician, parent and gun owner is talking about.
However, again this is nothing new and in several countries worlwide reap the effects of US intervention in much worse events, which would be relegated to a small column on page 12 about brief world current events.
This is a tragedy, but by no means does it mean that it should be off-limits to discussion and debate.
Have your own private memorial Zombeh, but don't try to condemn discussion on a internet forum
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:54:14
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By SuburbanProphet [1566696]
Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
This.
If you want to discuss gun control or whatever the heck you are talking about in this thread do it somewhere else. I should be shocked at the lack of sensitivity and shame here but this is Torn so nothing surprises me any more.
People died. CHILDREN died. And you guys just end up talking about the same rubbish over and over again and it makes me sick.
For the love of Odin show some respect. |
And in relation to this, it is exactly what every US media outlet, politician, parent and gun owner is talking about.
However, again this is nothing new and in several countries worlwide reap the effects of US intervention in much worse events, which would be relegated to a small column on page 12 about brief world current events.
This is a tragedy, but by no means does it mean that it should be off-limits to discussion and debate.
Have your own private memorial Zombeh, but don't try to condemn discussion on a internet forum |
I don't feel Zombeh was condemning the fact that there is a discussion about gun control, rights etc going on, but rather that there is a time and a place for everything.
This topic about CHILDREN DYING is certainly not the place. Start a spin off thread perhaps, using this case as your starting block.
Would you go to the funerals of those children and have heated discussions about gun regulations with mourners?
No?
Then don't do it here
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:08:06
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Eh...the topic is just a statement about how many died...if it stated ''RIP those poor children'' or something similar may be the subject wouldnt of been talked about so much.
And this is going be sent anywhere,its just a thread in a game forum.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:18:59
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I have heard that the Shooter's mother believed that the world will go crazy on the 21st, so she bought & filled the house with Guns & Ammo.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:23:11
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The main focus of the topic though is about the deaths, not gun control.
I feel a topic on gun regulations in the NR forum would be much better place to discuss, oh i don't know, gun regulations, than this topic.
It would also get a better response and wouldn't have people expressing their views on a tragedy alongside peoples views on 200 year old rights.
As i said, time and a place.
Sandy Hook shooting - separate topic
Gun laws/regulations etc - separate topic
Logical IMO
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:31:27
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I think some ppl dont want to ponder on the fact they are gun enthusiasts..and may have poo poo'd stricter laws before and may continue to do so,its a tragedy but lets just stick our fingers in our ears.When a tragedy happens ppl tend to want to know why..ask why,can we stop it happening again etc.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:36:27
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I can see your point. Some crazy people in this world
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:39:06
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i think most if not all who have posted their opinions in this thread are in fact trying to respect those who tragically died. if we do not discuss what lead to the shooting be it the tool itself or the mentality behind it we may never find a solution to help prevent things in the future. granted we are just using a game forum but a lot of ppl will have to decide what to do about it in real life. discussions like this one may help in their decision making process.
we have covered a lot in here, guns regs, gun bans, the media response, the mentality of the masses etc. do i think this forum will change the world? no. do i think its a step worth taking? yes. everything large and small is made up of smaller pieces, if this is just a smaller piece of a large solution then in my opinion its not a bad thing.
the passion ppl have shown in here directly shows the respect ppl with different beliefs have towards those who died. the desire they have to make the right choices to prevent these things from happening. even if the language isnt the best.
so while i understand the desire to see ppl say "those poor innocent ppl, my heart goes out them" that would be an extremely short thread and wouldnt serve them well. and if you look closer you might see that is exactly what ppl are saying, they are just saying it in a way that expresses their anger and frustation and desire to make it less likely to happen again.
just my thoughts anyways.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 17:13:05
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By Tolshortte [648554]
i think most if not all who have posted their opinions in this thread are in fact trying to respect those who tragically died. if we do not discuss what lead to the shooting be it the tool itself or the mentality behind it we may never find a solution to help prevent things in the future. granted we are just using a game forum but a lot of ppl will have to decide what to do about it in real life. discussions like this one may help in their decision making process.
we have covered a lot in here, guns regs, gun bans, the media response, the mentality of the masses etc. do i think this forum will change the world? no. do i think its a step worth taking? yes. everything large and small is made up of smaller pieces, if this is just a smaller piece of a large solution then in my opinion its not a bad thing.
the passion ppl have shown in here directly shows the respect ppl with different beliefs have towards those who died. the desire they have to make the right choices to prevent these things from happening. even if the language isnt the best.
so while i understand the desire to see ppl say "those poor innocent ppl, my heart goes out them" that would be an extremely short thread and wouldnt serve them well. and if you look closer you might see that is exactly what ppl are saying, they are just saying it in a way that expresses their anger and frustation and desire to make it less likely to happen again.
just my thoughts anyways. |
Spot on.
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 17:45:33
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Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
This.
If you want to discuss gun control or whatever the heck you are talking about in this thread do it somewhere else. I should be shocked at the lack of sensitivity and shame here but this is Torn so nothing surprises me any more.
People died. CHILDREN died. And you guys just end up talking about the same rubbish over and over again and it makes me sick.
For the love of Odin show some respect. |
And in relation to this, it is exactly what every US media outlet, politician, parent and gun owner is talking about.
However, again this is nothing new and in several countries worlwide reap the effects of US intervention in much worse events, which would be relegated to a small column on page 12 about brief world current events.
This is a tragedy, but by no means does it mean that it should be off-limits to discussion and debate.
Have your own private memorial Zombeh, but don't try to condemn discussion on a internet forum |
I don't feel Zombeh was condemning the fact that there is a discussion about gun control, rights etc going on, but rather that there is a time and a place for everything.
This topic about CHILDREN DYING is certainly not the place. Start a spin off thread perhaps, using this case as your starting block.
Would you go to the funerals of those children and have heated discussions about gun regulations with mourners?
No?
Then don't do it here |
Notice how Phegasus used the word forum. In fact, he emboldened the word forum. This is a forum. NR is a forum.
Forums are a place for discussion; funerals are a place for laying the dead to rest.
How can you use a funeral as an analogy for a forum?
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:19:57
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By Stain92 [1040302]
By Tolshortte [648554]
i think most if not all who have posted their opinions in this thread are in fact trying to respect those who tragically died. if we do not discuss what lead to the shooting be it the tool itself or the mentality behind it we may never find a solution to help prevent things in the future. granted we are just using a game forum but a lot of ppl will have to decide what to do about it in real life. discussions like this one may help in their decision making process.
we have covered a lot in here, guns regs, gun bans, the media response, the mentality of the masses etc. do i think this forum will change the world? no. do i think its a step worth taking? yes. everything large and small is made up of smaller pieces, if this is just a smaller piece of a large solution then in my opinion its not a bad thing.
the passion ppl have shown in here directly shows the respect ppl with different beliefs have towards those who died. the desire they have to make the right choices to prevent these things from happening. even if the language isnt the best.
so while i understand the desire to see ppl say "those poor innocent ppl, my heart goes out them" that would be an extremely short thread and wouldnt serve them well. and if you look closer you might see that is exactly what ppl are saying, they are just saying it in a way that expresses their anger and frustation and desire to make it less likely to happen again.
just my thoughts anyways. |
Spot on. |
Great post,
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:26:38
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Thanks for proving my point. Loser |
do yuo watch TV all day? looser
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Posted on Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:52:07
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By Notorious_BOD [1594966]
Start a spin off thread perhaps, using this case as your starting block.
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Lyno started one on Friday in the Politics & Law thread gulag subforum, but it seems to be a more popular move to grind axes in this thread.
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Posted on Wed Dec 19, 2012 03:56:11
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Regardless of your views of guns, theres another subject happening here. The Westboro Baptist Church has announced that they will assemble at the funerals of these innocent children to "sing the praises of God will". This group is widely known for their "anti-gay" rhetoric that says "God hates fags" and that dead soldiers are Gods will.
My first inclination would be to say let them show up and have them feel the wrath of a few grieving families. Personally, if you show upat the funeral of my loved one for any purpose other than to show respect, theres going to be another funeral... but this would be a case of 2 wrongs...
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
Sign this petition to have the US govt declare them as a hate group thus removing their tax-exempt status and making their further existance a living hell.
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i would sign it - but the link doesnt work. if they came to a funeral i was at - they better be armed to the teeth - cuz they would get destroyed by half of the people at the funeral.
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so what exactly do you think they are going to do at the funeral? is it wrong for ppl of ALL beliefs to come together in support of the victims and their families? if there was ever a situation where personal beliefs should be set aside for a day, this is it. |
WOW..I recommend you research this church before you write. This church is a family that believes only they are good. They do NOT attend funerals to support families...they attend only to tell grieving family members that the death is deserved because they are sinners. The "Praise of Gods will" they plan to preach is simply that these children are dirty sinners that deserved to die and that the parents sins caused this to happen. They will stand outside the church chanting and singing about how the town and the children and the grieving family and friends, are dirty. And as the families leave the church, the Phelps family (Westboro Baptist church members) will yell such obsenities aimed at the families of the dead children. They will then follow them to the cemetary and continue on...
You are right that people should come together and set personal beliefs aside...but the Phelps family will not do that
My heart goes out to Westboro
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Posted on Wed Dec 19, 2012 08:14:34
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By Tolshortte [648554]
i think most if not all who have posted their opinions in this thread are in fact trying to respect those who tragically died. if we do not discuss what lead to the shooting be it the tool itself or the mentality behind it we may never find a solution to help prevent things in the future. granted we are just using a game forum but a lot of ppl will have to decide what to do about it in real life. discussions like this one may help in their decision making process.
we have covered a lot in here, guns regs, gun bans, the media response, the mentality of the masses etc. do i think this forum will change the world? no. do i think its a step worth taking? yes. everything large and small is made up of smaller pieces, if this is just a smaller piece of a large solution then in my opinion its not a bad thing.
the passion ppl have shown in here directly shows the respect ppl with different beliefs have towards those who died. the desire they have to make the right choices to prevent these things from happening. even if the language isnt the best.
so while i understand the desire to see ppl say "those poor innocent ppl, my heart goes out them" that would be an extremely short thread and wouldnt serve them well. and if you look closer you might see that is exactly what ppl are saying, they are just saying it in a way that expresses their anger and frustation and desire to make it less likely to happen again.
just my thoughts anyways. |
Spot on. |
Great post,
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I agree 100%
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Posted on Wed Dec 19, 2012 13:02:54
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No matter what law,country or religion...this will Happen again..and worse.
...the problem is the human factor. It cannot be accounted for when trying to stop this type of thing. If someone is ill enough they will find a way to achieve their goal, no matter how despicable it seems to the rest of us.
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Posted on Wed Dec 19, 2012 15:59:10
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By Tony_Caustic_2 [902604]
No matter what law,country or religion...this will Happen again..and worse.
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Weird, never read this kind of news in Asia country. Nor in Swiss, or in fact, the UK.
Only did read in the USA, Mexico, and Africa though.
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Posted on Wed Dec 19, 2012 16:32:30
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By Aramis [432256]
By Tony_Caustic_2 [902604]
No matter what law,country or religion...this will Happen again..and worse.
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Weird, never read this kind of news in Asia country. Nor in Swiss, or in fact, the UK.
Only did read in the USA, Mexico, and Africa though.
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Posted on Wed Dec 19, 2012 16:36:28
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By Tolshortte [648554]
some things sell the media's product and other things dont. the media doesnt care at all about any issue they talk about, they just want to sell their product like everyone else. |
I spent all weekend in Sandy Hook writing profiles of those kids. If you think I don't care you are welcome to go f**k yourself.
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Personally, I think it is time to put these things aside and give our respects to the children and the families of those who are affected.
Cheers...Sub. |
This.
If you want to discuss gun control or whatever the heck you are talking about in this thread do it somewhere else. I should be shocked at the lack of sensitivity and shame here but this is Torn so nothing surprises me any more.
People died. CHILDREN died. And you guys just end up talking about the same rubbish over and over again and it makes me sick. |
THIS.
I don't give a shit who did this, or why he did this, or whether you love guns, and your rights, or fear guns. I don't care about mental illness or anything else.
I wish people would just shut the hell up and concentrate on who these kids were and on making sure we don't forget them while we scramble to fight about gun laws.
We have a lifetime to debate and think about solutions and what needs to change. Can't we even spend a week making sure we remember these kids? Half of them aren't even buried yet, and we're already looking for some other kind of angle on this. It's disgusting.
I never share my own work on here, but instead of fighting in this thread, how about each of you googles Olivia Engel, Benjamin Wheeler, or Charlotte Bacon.
Emilie Parker was 6-years-old and already twice as compassionate as half the idiots on here.
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