What an amazing story! This is some serious cutting edge work. If they can fine tune this it will be major break through!! Even though its a huge one already!
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. I mean if it were me or my family, I would want a cure for cancer, but with the number of people on earth growing and growing... maybe it isn't such a good thing to cure cancer?
Sorry, just being honest. 7 billion humans on earth is enough maybe, and nature needs to be left alone to thin out the heard perhaps?
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Lol if you honestly think this then you're a bit of a retard. The 'cure' for cancer doesn't exist. There are many treatments, which can be successful, but there is no 'works 90+% of the time cure for cancer' for many reasons. There are so many types of cancers, caused for so many reasons, that there can't just be a cure. Cancer Research organisations test different treatments for each individual cancer to see how effective they are, and even these methods can vary, a lot.
You need to do your research first. Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything, if there were a cure for a cancer we would know.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. I mean if it were me or my family, I would want a cure for cancer, but with the number of people on earth growing and growing... maybe it isn't such a good thing to cure cancer?
Sorry, just being honest. 7 billion humans on earth is enough maybe, and nature needs to be left alone to thin out the heard perhaps?
If ever there were a reason for the government hiding a 'cure' for cancer, this would be it. Not purely for profit.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. I mean if it were me or my family, I would want a cure for cancer, but with the number of people on earth growing and growing... maybe it isn't such a good thing to cure cancer?
Sorry, just being honest. 7 billion humans on earth is enough maybe, and nature needs to be left alone to thin out the heard perhaps?
If ever there were a reason for the government hiding a 'cure' for cancer, this would be it. Not purely for profit.
No, they do not do things that are no profitable.
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak... Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Lol if you honestly think this then you're a bit of a retard. The 'cure' for cancer doesn't exist. There are many treatments, which can be successful, but there is no 'works 90+% of the time cure for cancer' for many reasons. There are so many types of cancers, caused for so many reasons, that there can't just be a cure. Cancer Research organisations test different treatments for each individual cancer to see how effective they are, and even these methods can vary, a lot.
You need to do your research first. Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything, if there were a cure for a cancer we would know.
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
11 replies and still no Limetree? Is it his day off or something?
Anyways, this is obviously a great testament to the advances made possible by science. It's stuff like this that makes me pissed off about people who make science out to be some great evil (I'm looking at you fundamentalists!)
But yeah, I agree with Steve. It's nice to think about kids getting over life-threatening illnesses, but I remember reading that something like 1 in 3 people gets cancer at some point. If everyone survived it, there'd be a hell of a lot more people in the world, and we're pretty cramped as it is.
@stain92... Just because someone is paranoid, that does not mean they are not correct.
I would not put it past governments or drug companies to suppress a cure for cancer. There are too many people currently making too much money in the quest for a cure or treatment.
It is like the "War on Drugs". There is no real reason to end the continuous battle against drug use, because too much money is involved in the effort.
With regards to a cancer cure or effective treatment, I am not saying that there is such a suppression, only that the possibility is plausible.
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Lol if you honestly think this then you're a bit of a retard. The 'cure' for cancer doesn't exist. There are many treatments, which can be successful, but there is no 'works 90+% of the time cure for cancer' for many reasons. There are so many types of cancers, caused for so many reasons, that there can't just be a cure. Cancer Research organisations test different treatments for each individual cancer to see how effective they are, and even these methods can vary, a lot.
You need to do your research first. Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything, if there were a cure for a cancer we would know.
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
are you seriously trying to turn this into a pro cannabis thread?
listen.
they manipulated a deadly virus to treat a disease.
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Lol if you honestly think this then you're a bit of a retard. The 'cure' for cancer doesn't exist. There are many treatments, which can be successful, but there is no 'works 90+% of the time cure for cancer' for many reasons. There are so many types of cancers, caused for so many reasons, that there can't just be a cure. Cancer Research organisations test different treatments for each individual cancer to see how effective they are, and even these methods can vary, a lot.
You need to do your research first. Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything, if there were a cure for a cancer we would know.
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
are you seriously trying to turn this into a pro cannabis thread?
listen.
they manipulated a deadly virus to treat a disease.
nevermind the f**king cancer cures and all that,
a virus.
was used.
to cure.
think about that, will you?
That's pretty common, alot of vaccines are small dosages of actual viruses etc to enable the immune system to generate sufficient antibodies for the body to defend itself.
They are also used as a vehicle for transmitting other cells because of their ability to spread quickly throughout the bloodstream/body.
In this case, it was used to carry anti-cancer genes. Doesn't detract from the amazing feat that was performed on the child through.
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Lol if you honestly think this then you're a bit of a retard. The 'cure' for cancer doesn't exist. There are many treatments, which can be successful, but there is no 'works 90+% of the time cure for cancer' for many reasons. There are so many types of cancers, caused for so many reasons, that there can't just be a cure. Cancer Research organisations test different treatments for each individual cancer to see how effective they are, and even these methods can vary, a lot.
You need to do your research first. Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything, if there were a cure for a cancer we would know.
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
are you seriously trying to turn this into a pro cannabis thread?
listen.
they manipulated a deadly virus to treat a disease.
nevermind the f**king cancer cures and all that,
a virus.
was used.
to cure.
think about that, will you?
Well its an amazing story but not uncommon. Snake poison is used in many drugs today, certainly usinh hiv is on another level though.
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. I mean if it were me or my family, I would want a cure for cancer, but with the number of people on earth growing and growing... maybe it isn't such a good thing to cure cancer?
Sorry, just being honest. 7 billion humans on earth is enough maybe, and nature needs to be left alone to thin out the heard perhaps?
By eQual [1631535]
Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything... [/colour][/b]
And you would know that how? DERP. BTW, it isn't called "Official Secrets Acts", it's called nondisclosure, and it is pretty standard. Especially for privately funded research.
Question is will she have long term effects from being cured with a modified version of HIV?...
virus treatments are very risky and this is not the first time viruses have been used to cure something although this case being the first with cancer involved.
By Gungrave [470221]
Question is will she have long term effects from being cured with a modified version of HIV?...
virus treatments are very risky and this is not the first time viruses have been used to cure something although this case being the first with cancer involved.
It is a trial treatment so the doctors will definitely be wondering the same thing. She shouldn't get AIDS though as it's reprogrammed to actually improve her T cells not destroy them.
What I'm wondering is if it's transmissible and is it even HIV anymore, it still 'infects' her immune system so it could still be called HIV.
By eQual [1631535]
Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything... [/colour][/b]
And you would know that how? DERP. BTW, it isn't called "Official Secrets Acts", it's called nondisclosure, and it is pretty standard. Especially for privately funded research.
Well probably because I'm allowed into his work. You think they'd just let me in? Also, I was making it up, I never claimed to know the exact name of whatever it is that stops people talking or whatever.
By Silent-Rage [193964]
11 replies and still no Limetree? Is it his day off or something?
Limetree i believe has quit, hasn't played for 2 weeks
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. I mean if it were me or my family, I would want a cure for cancer, but with the number of people on earth growing and growing... maybe it isn't such a good thing to cure cancer?
Sorry, just being honest. 7 billion humans on earth is enough maybe, and nature needs to be left alone to thin out the heard perhaps?
I agree to many humans is bad for the the circle of life, were killing more then we need, and almost killing off all other animals, and when the animals kill one of us or even harm us we treat it like its worse then when we killed thousands of them.
My moms been through cancer and survived but its sad to see her as she is, she is a fighter but her bones are weak, and she's constantly in pain, almost every night she can't sleep from the pain, she has to take pills like crazy, its a sad way to live, she's almost given up hope, but she is still fighting and she holds a steady job, and is now going to meet her first grandchild in a any minute now, which has really helped her forget about the pain.
Also if i ever get cancer or something that should kill me i want to die from it i don't want to live a life of pain and suffering.
It's truly amazing that they can manipulate a deadly virus to fight cancer, but just wait till that modified virus mutates, then there's the running, the screaming, the insatiable craving for noggin' nuggets...
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
By Ekko [1621978]
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
Interesting.. If you can provide the source, please.
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
By Ekko [1621978]
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
Interesting.. If you can provide the source, please.
I think the same thing but can't provide a source either. If you think about it, it makes sense. It's not exactly far fetched that those in power would rather keep raking in huge profits instead of curing people and profits dwindle.
We've known multiple cures for cancer for decades. But they're covered up because they not saleable, they don't want a cure for cancer, they want a drug/medical procedure that they can sell to cure cancer. Meanwhile known cures are banned because they'd destroy a multi billiondollar profit from selling drugs.
Do your research before you swallow everything the media wants to shove down your throat.
Lol if you honestly think this then you're a bit of a retard. The 'cure' for cancer doesn't exist. There are many treatments, which can be successful, but there is no 'works 90+% of the time cure for cancer' for many reasons. There are so many types of cancers, caused for so many reasons, that there can't just be a cure. Cancer Research organisations test different treatments for each individual cancer to see how effective they are, and even these methods can vary, a lot.
You need to do your research first. Both my Dad and a friend of the family work for ICR. They aren't made to sign an Official Secrets Acts or anything, if there were a cure for a cancer we would know.
I did not speak of 'the cure' for cancer. Different cancers require different treatments. And we cannot yet cure all cancers, but I stand by what I said about cancer treatments being banned for being too successful. Banned because the treatment couldn't be patented, therefore cannot make billions for the big pharma monopoly.
are you seriously trying to turn this into a pro cannabis thread?
listen.
they manipulated a deadly virus to treat a disease.
nevermind the f**king cancer cures and all that,
a virus.
was used.
to cure.
think about that, will you?
That's pretty common, alot of vaccines are small dosages of actual viruses etc to enable the immune system to generate sufficient antibodies for the body to defend itself.
They are also used as a vehicle for transmitting other cells because of their ability to spread quickly throughout the bloodstream/body.
In this case, it was used to carry anti-cancer genes. Doesn't detract from the amazing feat that was performed on the child through.
There's a virus called reovirus that targets & kills a number of cancers directly. Last I remember hearing about it, they were starting with human trials.
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