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Posted on Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:23:02
When good weed is hard to get, I don't really go out of my way to find some, and when its available I happily enjoy it.
I also occasionally party hard with alcohol and smoke tobacco, which sometimes I feel is my most self-destructing substance abuse.

MDMA is nice, but I have refused it more times than taking it, I feel one has to be in very calm and balanced emotional state to get the best of it.

One psychoactive drug that I put aside from others, though is psilocybin mushrooms*. I have taken them something like 6 times in a period of 5 years, and every time its been a positive experience for me - not positive like "oooh the glowing colors and the swirling fractals" one, but more like a profound spiritual experience of rethinking some personal issues and having a very different point of view on reality.
The first time I took them, I felt reborn - I was in a forest open air party and while under the effects, I found myself much more open to conversation with strangers, my social awkwardness (that I never realized was there before) had disappeared and I became much more easy going person than I was before. And by that I mean I really changed for the better - not only during the effects - I became a better person because of this experience.

*Note: This applies also to all other tryptamines - LSD, mescaline, DMT, etc. (though I've never tried them, it seems their mechanism of action and effects are more or less very similar)

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Posted on Mon Nov 12, 2012 14:04:55
Yeah man, I feel you. Shrooms changed my life.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 14:04:00
Drugs are very Bad.

Case Re-Opened.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 16:15:47
I've done just about everything under the sun.
DMT and IV ketamine are exciting.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 16:16:59
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Drugs are very Bad.

Case Re-Opened.


I had to post just to say I love this guy.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 16:52:57
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Drugs are very Bad.

Case Re-Opened.


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I had to post just to say



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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 17:11:57
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Drugs are very Bad.

Case Re-Opened.


I had to post just to say I love this guy.


I had to post just to say



Because enjoying someone's post means I want to have homosexual relations with them. Jumping to that conclusion says more about you than it does about me buddy.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 17:27:49
awesome. i just wrote a long introspective post about my struggles with drugs and alcohol in the past and my current struggle with vicodin. then torn signed me out. thanks torn.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 18:24:13
I enjoy a hearty bowl of ganja now and again, however that's where I draw the line. I have some friends irl that went down the druggie route, not pretty. It's actually very sad and discouraging. Opiates are the worst, once you go down that road good luck getting back.

The life of an addict is no life to live. If you're reading this and you have a hard drug problem, you better forget about how hard it is to quit and just fight it with everything you've got until you either manage to claw your way out of the hole or die trying. Because you're better off dead than living a life of sorrow and dependence.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 18:55:29
Only smoked weed for a while but tbh I didn't find it that great; maybe I wasn't doing it right. Smoked cigarettes for a while and I drink. But nothing OTT


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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 19:28:53
My experience consists of basically every psychoactive substance available. Flirted with coke, speed (this was pre-meth, so just regular amphetamines) and other stimulants in my younger days, but didn't like the way the person they turned my into, so I started on opiates. Started with prescriptions and moved into heroin pretty fast. I liked it but slowed down significantly so I wouldn't develop a habit. When meth showed up, I was really into that for awhile. Got a lot out of it but quit while I was ahead. MDMA was my next DOC and used it for a period of a couple years. After I made a big move, it was too difficult to get pure MDMA and I quit. That was about 2001. At that time, drugs weren't a very large portion of my life, just an occasional hobby. Then came the RCs. A whole different ball game.

I had flirted with hallucinogens prior but never found them really dazzling until I found out about research chemicals. This was pre-operation web tryp, so you could get tons of new and exciting chemicals for pretty cheap without much risk over the internet. After trying most of the big RCs, I settled on a more regular use of the 2C family. This went on for a few years and I fondly remember receiving discreet packages and indiscriminately consuming the vaguely-legal chemicals within. Afterwards I would then record my experiences, some of which you might find on Erowid. I felt like some kind of psychedelic scientist. Then came Operation Web Tryp, and the golden age was over. While I felt somewhat depressed at the time, it opened a whole new world of drugs for me incidentally.

My next phase of drug use saw me delve further into hallucinogens; particularly dissociatives. Due to a stroke of luck, I managed to get my hands on a large amount of Ketamine. For a period of about a year starting in early 2005 and concluding in early 2006, I experimented heavily with this substance and loved it. I insufflated, IMed, and eventually IVed on a semi-regular basis during this time and had many personal revelations on it, not to mention the awesome intoxication of it. When I finally ran dry, I decided to try the other dissociatives. First it was PCP. I tried that only a few times before discarding it. Second, Nitrous Oxide. While I enjoyed it, the fleeting high was enough to discourage me from frequent use. Finally I tried DXM, and what a ride it has been.

I can confidently say DXM has changed my life. Its funny to think that after trying so many other substances, OTC cough syrup would become my favorite drug. From about 2006 on, I have used DXM on a pretty regular basis. During some periods, I use it up to a few of times a month, but I typically use it every one or two months. I would highly recommend it to anyone willing to try drugs. It is cheaper, safer, and less likely to get you arrested than most illegal drugs. Though, like any responsible dexer, I recommend you read the DXM FAQ prior to ever experimenting with it.

Since discovering DXM, I have also reestablished my MDMA use and occasionally indulge in opiates. MDMA I use in roughly the same frequency as DXM and I use Heroin a few times a year.

A list of my 10 favorite drugs over the past twenty years of use:
1)DXM
2)Ketamine
3)MDMA
4)2C-b/2C-e
5)Heroin
6)Methamphetamine
7)Cocaine
8)DPH (Though only in combination with DXM)
9)Alcohol
10)Other Opiates (Fentanyl and Oxycodone, mostly)

At this point in my life, I have never experienced true addiction or withdrawal from any of these substances and I can honestly say, I don't believe any of them have damaged my intelligence. In addition I have never been arrested in regards to my drug use and don't believe that it has negatively impacted my life. I attribute all this to my responsible and not-indulgent use of these substances. During the past twenty years, I have maintained a normal life and career, gotten married and have a healthy daughter who is turning two in this upcoming April. I have a close group of friends and family, most of whom do not use drugs, illegal or otherwise. I see no reason to discontinue my usage at any point in my life.

Though to anyone who is considering using drugs, especially hard drugs, I must advise that you take great caution in your usage of these or other chemicals. While I have been careful and lucky enough to avoid the pitfalls of long-term drug use, it has been through great discipline and prudence. You only have one life and one body, and while drugs may be a fun hobby, they are not worth losing your life over (literally or figuratively). Good luck, everyone.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 19:43:46
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My experience consists of basically every psychoactive substance available. Flirted with coke, speed (this was pre-meth, so just regular amphetamines) and other stimulants in my younger days, but didn't like the way the person they turned my into, so I started on opiates. Started with prescriptions and moved into heroin pretty fast. I liked it but slowed down significantly so I wouldn't develop a habit. When meth showed up, I was really into that for awhile. Got a lot out of it but quit while I was ahead. MDMA was my next DOC and used it for a period of a couple years. After I made a big move, it was too difficult to get pure MDMA and I quit. That was about 2001. At that time, drugs weren't a very large portion of my life, just an occasional hobby. Then came the RCs. A whole different ball game.

I had flirted with hallucinogens prior but never found them really dazzling until I found out about research chemicals. This was pre-operation web tryp, so you could get tons of new and exciting chemicals for pretty cheap without much risk over the internet. After trying most of the big RCs, I settled on a more regular use of the 2C family. This went on for a few years and I fondly remember receiving discreet packages and indiscriminately consuming the vaguely-legal chemicals within. Afterwards I would then record my experiences, some of which you might find on Erowid. I felt like some kind of psychedelic scientist. Then came Operation Web Tryp, and the golden age was over. While I felt somewhat depressed at the time, it opened a whole new world of drugs for me incidentally.

My next phase of drug use saw me delve further into hallucinogens; particularly dissociatives. Due to a stroke of luck, I managed to get my hands on a large amount of Ketamine. For a period of about a year starting in early 2005 and concluding in early 2006, I experimented heavily with this substance and loved it. I insufflated, IMed, and eventually IVed on a semi-regular basis during this time and had many personal revelations on it, not to mention the awesome intoxication of it. When I finally ran dry, I decided to try the other dissociatives. First it was PCP. I tried that only a few times before discarding it. Second, Nitrous Oxide. While I enjoyed it, the fleeting high was enough to discourage me from frequent use. Finally I tried DXM, and what a ride it has been.

I can confidently say DXM has changed my life. Its funny to think that after trying so many other substances, OTC cough syrup would become my favorite drug. From about 2006 on, I have used DXM on a pretty regular basis. During some periods, I use it up to a few of times a month, but I typically use it every one or two months. I would highly recommend it to anyone willing to try drugs. It is cheaper, safer, and less likely to get you arrested than most illegal drugs. Though, like any responsible dexer, I recommend you read the DXM FAQ prior to ever experimenting with it.

Since discovering DXM, I have also reestablished my MDMA use and occasionally indulge in opiates. MDMA I use in roughly the same frequency as DXM and I use Heroin a few times a year.

A list of my 10 favorite drugs over the past twenty years of use:
1)DXM
2)Ketamine
3)MDMA
4)2C-b/2C-e
5)Heroin
6)Methamphetamine
7)Cocaine
8)DPH (Though only in combination with DXM)
9)Alcohol
10)Other Opiates (Fentanyl and Oxycodone, mostly)

At this point in my life, I have never experienced true addiction or withdrawal from any of these substances and I can honestly say, I don't believe any of them have damaged my intelligence. In addition I have never been arrested in regards to my drug use and don't believe that it has negatively impacted my life. I attribute all this to my responsible and not-indulgent use of these substances. During the past twenty years, I have maintained a normal life and career, gotten married and have a healthy daughter who is turning two in this upcoming April. I have a close group of friends and family, most of whom do not use drugs, illegal or otherwise. I see no reason to discontinue my usage at any point in my life.

Though to anyone who is considering using drugs, especially hard drugs, I must advise that you take great caution in your usage of these or other chemicals. While I have been careful and lucky enough to avoid the pitfalls of long-term drug use, it has been through great discipline and prudence. You only have one life and one body, and while drugs may be a fun hobby, they are not worth losing your life over (literally or figuratively). Good luck, everyone.


You're deluding yourself, and putting at risk anyone who reads this who might be encouraged to use based on your "lack of consequences", which I find hard to believe anyway. I feel sorry for you and even worse for your family. I don't think you're as free of addiction and consequences as you say given your self-described 20 year history. And even if you truly are some genius with miraculous discipline who has managed to keep a steady career and family, if not for the drugs for all anyone knows you could have been a C.E.O. or a Nobel Prize winner, or even a world leader, all futures which the substances you abuse may have robbed you of. I implore you, get help for your and your daughter's sake. If she grows up with a father who uses drugs, she's likely to follow you down that slope.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 19:57:57
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You're deluding yourself, and putting at risk anyone who reads this who might be encouraged to use based on your "lack of consequences", which I find hard to believe anyway. I feel sorry for you and even worse for your family. I don't think you're as free of addiction and consequences as you say given your self-described 20 year history. And even if you truly are some genius with miraculous discipline who has managed to keep a steady career and family, if not for the drugs for all anyone knows you could have been a C.E.O. or a Nobel Prize winner, or even a world leader, all futures which the substances you abuse may have robbed you of. I implore you, get help for your and your daughter's sake. If she grows up with a father who uses drugs, she's likely to follow you down that slope.


While I understand your concern for my well-being and the sake of my daughter, I would advise you consider the alternative. Prior to use of psychoactive substances, I was a heavily-depressed, unemployed high-school graduate with a lack of motivation and little prospects for the future. Whether or not drugs helped me to put my life together is a subject of a long and most likely fruitless conversation, although I believe they have. In regards to my daughter, I would prefer her not to get involved with psychoactives full of ignorance and young stupidity as I admittedly did. Instead, I believe it would be much healthier for her to make her own decisions on the matter and if she does choose to use, I would much prefer she learned from my experiences rather than indiscriminately fall into the life of an addict.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 20:01:17
Drugs are bad. If you take them your brain will rot and you will die.

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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 20:06:13
I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.



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Posted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 21:47:02
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I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.




I agree 100%. I think everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own bodies as well. Regardless of what it is.

Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 05:13:49
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Drugs are very Bad.

Case Re-Opened.


I had to post just to say I love this guy.


There are still some which will be re-opened soon...

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 00:01:56
Paracetamol ftw


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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 00:10:25
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I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.




I agree 100%. I think everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own bodies as well. Regardless of what it is.


As long as it doesn't affect others health or well-being and cost the government a fortune in clean-ups and repairs.

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 00:15:22
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I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.




I agree 100%. I think everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own bodies as well. Regardless of what it is.


I take it you've never been addicted to drugs.

It's not just the addict that's affected. When you'll do anything for a fix, a lot of the time, that includes stealing from your friends and family. There's an old saying: An alcoholic will steal your wallet and beat himself up for it. A drug addict will steal your wallet and then pretend to help you find it.



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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 00:43:55
By SoloAceMouse [945089]
My experience consists of basically every psychoactive substance available. Flirted with coke, speed (this was pre-meth, so just regular amphetamines) and other stimulants in my younger days, but didn't like the way the person they turned my into, so I started on opiates. Started with prescriptions and moved into heroin pretty fast. I liked it but slowed down significantly so I wouldn't develop a habit. When meth showed up, I was really into that for awhile. Got a lot out of it but quit while I was ahead. MDMA was my next DOC and used it for a period of a couple years. After I made a big move, it was too difficult to get pure MDMA and I quit. That was about 2001. At that time, drugs weren't a very large portion of my life, just an occasional hobby. Then came the RCs. A whole different ball game.

I had flirted with hallucinogens prior but never found them really dazzling until I found out about research chemicals. This was pre-operation web tryp, so you could get tons of new and exciting chemicals for pretty cheap without much risk over the internet. After trying most of the big RCs, I settled on a more regular use of the 2C family. This went on for a few years and I fondly remember receiving discreet packages and indiscriminately consuming the vaguely-legal chemicals within. Afterwards I would then record my experiences, some of which you might find on Erowid. I felt like some kind of psychedelic scientist. Then came Operation Web Tryp, and the golden age was over. While I felt somewhat depressed at the time, it opened a whole new world of drugs for me incidentally.

My next phase of drug use saw me delve further into hallucinogens; particularly dissociatives. Due to a stroke of luck, I managed to get my hands on a large amount of Ketamine. For a period of about a year starting in early 2005 and concluding in early 2006, I experimented heavily with this substance and loved it. I insufflated, IMed, and eventually IVed on a semi-regular basis during this time and had many personal revelations on it, not to mention the awesome intoxication of it. When I finally ran dry, I decided to try the other dissociatives. First it was PCP. I tried that only a few times before discarding it. Second, Nitrous Oxide. While I enjoyed it, the fleeting high was enough to discourage me from frequent use. Finally I tried DXM, and what a ride it has been.

I can confidently say DXM has changed my life. Its funny to think that after trying so many other substances, OTC cough syrup would become my favorite drug. From about 2006 on, I have used DXM on a pretty regular basis. During some periods, I use it up to a few of times a month, but I typically use it every one or two months. I would highly recommend it to anyone willing to try drugs. It is cheaper, safer, and less likely to get you arrested than most illegal drugs. Though, like any responsible dexer, I recommend you read the DXM FAQ prior to ever experimenting with it.

Since discovering DXM, I have also reestablished my MDMA use and occasionally indulge in opiates. MDMA I use in roughly the same frequency as DXM and I use Heroin a few times a year.

A list of my 10 favorite drugs over the past twenty years of use:
1)DXM
2)Ketamine
3)MDMA
4)2C-b/2C-e
5)Heroin
6)Methamphetamine
7)Cocaine
8)DPH (Though only in combination with DXM)
9)Alcohol
10)Other Opiates (Fentanyl and Oxycodone, mostly)

At this point in my life, I have never experienced true addiction or withdrawal from any of these substances and I can honestly say, I don't believe any of them have damaged my intelligence. In addition I have never been arrested in regards to my drug use and don't believe that it has negatively impacted my life. I attribute all this to my responsible and not-indulgent use of these substances. During the past twenty years, I have maintained a normal life and career, gotten married and have a healthy daughter who is turning two in this upcoming April. I have a close group of friends and family, most of whom do not use drugs, illegal or otherwise. I see no reason to discontinue my usage at any point in my life.

Though to anyone who is considering using drugs, especially hard drugs, I must advise that you take great caution in your usage of these or other chemicals. While I have been careful and lucky enough to avoid the pitfalls of long-term drug use, it has been through great discipline and prudence. You only have one life and one body, and while drugs may be a fun hobby, they are not worth losing your life over (literally or figuratively). Good luck, everyone.


Cough Medicine & Aphex Twin is much better than all that put together.

Tell me when this stupid semi colon stuff is over.
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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 00:56:14
Only drugs I've done are Paracetamol, Cough Medicine, Loratadine for Hayfever, and an inhaler for asthma. Nothing serious.

Tell me when this stupid semi colon stuff is over.
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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 01:33:17
I was addicted to painkillers after two accidents I had, the first being that I broke my nose while playing baseball, and the second, breaking my nose again and three other bones in my face. I was prescribed hydrocodone for both, which was EXTREMELY addictive. At first, I didn't like it, but I dunno, once you actually learn about it, you can honestly decide whether or not it's good or bad in your own perspective. Just in the past few months, I was prescribed oxycodone for a kidney stone that I had, which I also enjoyed A LOT. I don't think the consequences are that bad, although I do hate those who glamorize drugs.

Other than that, I've tried pot quite a few times and never really got around to liking it, although it did help with my eating habits. I've tried speed once, that was...kinda cool, I guess. I wouldn't really do it again but it wasn't a bad trip or anything. E was pretty fun, but again, not that great to me. I tried coke & ketamine once, which honestly, I wouldn't mind doing again. It was pretty nice. But other than that, I stick to my painkillers, cigarettes and booze.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don't condone taking drugs at all. I'm all for legalization, but I've seen way too many friends lose themselves over drugs. Even pot can drastically change a person.

Last Edited: Sat Feb 23, 2013 02:55:27

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 01:41:44
By MagnusHarvest24 [1655145]
Cough Medicine & Aphex Twin is much better than all that put together.


What do you think DXM is?

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 01:42:25
Opiates has become my RL addiction.

Always Buying Meds & Drugs & Flowers! Mail me with prices.
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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 01:56:19
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Drugs are very Bad.

Case Re-Opened.


I had to post just to say I love this guy.


I had to post just to say



Because enjoying someone's post means I want to have homosexual relations with them. Jumping to that conclusion says more about you than it does about me buddy.


I love this guy =/= I love this guy's posts

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 02:02:08
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I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.




I agree 100%. I think everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own bodies as well. Regardless of what it is.


As long as it doesn't affect others health or well-being and cost the government a fortune in clean-ups and repairs.


Legal or not, people are using drugs. You can't even keep drugs out of our prisons. I don't see how making them legal will cost any more than the billions we spend to house pot smokers and non-violent drug users.

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 02:07:45
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By -Cindy- [747490]
I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.




I agree 100%. I think everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own bodies as well. Regardless of what it is.


I take it you've never been addicted to drugs.

It's not just the addict that's affected. When you'll do anything for a fix, a lot of the time, that includes stealing from your friends and family. There's an old saying: An alcoholic will steal your wallet and beat himself up for it. A drug addict will steal your wallet and then pretend to help you find it.



Nice assumption man. I've been around long enough to be familiar with drug use and alcoholism and see how using can destroy lives. That being said, people should be able to do what they wish with their bodies. Trusting the government supported by lobbyists and influenced by money to make these decisions for you is stupid.

Anyway, legal or not. People are using and will continue to do so. All these laws aren't helping matters, they are just costing us billions.

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 02:32:35
Its a double-edged sword with valid points on both sides, but I vouch for the legalization of cannabis only. I think penalties for users of other drugs should be adjusted so that they go to rehab instead of prison, but drug peddlers should be put off the streets. As it is most people who use will gradually introduce their drugs of choice to other people throughout their lives, many of whom will then get addicted and the cycle repeats. The toll substances take on lives is real, and terrible. I say this from experience, not personal experience mind you but some of the people closest to me wound up going down that route, graduating from ecstasy to cocaine to meth to painkillers then eventually heroin, now their lives are in complete shambles and I have disassociated myself from who used to be my closest friends. They have sacrificed everything in the name of the next high, and one of them eventually attempted to commit suicide.

Unfortunately the pharmaceutical companies push alot of terrible drugs as well, and millions wind up addicted but its under the pretense of taking medicine so many don't even realize it. Antidepressants alone wreak havoc on people's brains, they affect areas of the brain you really oughtn't be messing around with and they're backed by faulty research supported by corporate greed. The biggest drug dealer in town is your doctor; its wise to question anything they prescribe you especially when it comes to painkillers and any mind altering medication (antidepressants/antianxiety/stimulants)

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Posted on Sat Feb 23, 2013 02:34:51
By -Cindy- [747490]
By Silent-Rage [193964]
By D3ADLY [282188]
By -Cindy- [747490]
I don't use drugs in real life. They should all be legal for adults along with prostitution. Only suckers support legislation to restrict the right to do what you wish with your own body.




I agree 100%. I think everyone should have the right to do as they wish with their own bodies as well. Regardless of what it is.


I take it you've never been addicted to drugs.

It's not just the addict that's affected. When you'll do anything for a fix, a lot of the time, that includes stealing from your friends and family. There's an old saying: An alcoholic will steal your wallet and beat himself up for it. A drug addict will steal your wallet and then pretend to help you find it.



Nice assumption man. I've been around long enough to be familiar with drug use and alcoholism and see how using can destroy lives. That being said, people should be able to do what they wish with their bodies. Trusting the government supported by lobbyists and influenced by money to make these decisions for you is stupid.

Anyway, legal or not. People are using and will continue to do so. All these laws aren't helping matters, they are just costing us billions.


And how many people who would use drugs don't for the sole reason that they're illegal? If you legalised them, there'd be a hell of a lot more people using.

Joe Average will think "I can't take that, there's a chance I'll get arrested." A drug addict values the drug over their freedom. It takes a special kind of arsehole to be an addict. I know, I was one.

I admit I'd like to see governments offer information and advice to people who do use so their source of information isn't their friendly neighbourhood dealer, but legalising drugs, in my view, isn't the answer, at least not the ones that have destroyed countless lives and continue to do so. If someone smokes a bit of weed every now and again, that should be up to them, they're not hurting anyone. Someone committing further crimes to fund their ever more expensive coke/heroin/meth/crack/oxy addiction needs to be dealt with. People who are considering using need to know there's consequences. Some of them will still use, but as I say, a lot will be put off simply by the issue of legality.

By "costing us billions", I'm guessing you mean prison costs and drug law enforcement? (Correct me if I'm wrong). The cost of having greatly increased numbers of drug users would be equal to whatever your government is spending now, at least. More drug users means more serious addicts, more serious addicts means less functional members of a work force, less functional members of a work force means businesses lose money, businesses losing money means businesses ceasing to operate, businesses ceasing to operate means a shrinking economy...see where this is going? It's nice to live in a fantasy world where everyone lives peaceful, happy lives without any laws to ensure it, but that's not reality, and it never will be.

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