indeed, only difference is these crayons hurt a little more when thrown (and they have a metallic taste to them)
there's right and there's wrong, you gotta do one or the other If you do the one and your living you do the other you might be walking around but your dead as a beaver hat
hey, does anybody know where i could buy a new kel tec p3at guide rod at?
there's right and there's wrong, you gotta do one or the other If you do the one and your living you do the other you might be walking around but your dead as a beaver hat
Guns are one of the few things left that make me appreciate my freedom. The most important reason "the right to bear arms" is in our constitution was to prevent the government from having too much power.
Just moved to indiana, and applied for my conceal/carry license. Just wish illinois had the same law, as I usually work in the ghetto, where people are shot/robbed on a daily basis.
But no, I can't protect myself there, only the criminals are allowed to carry firearms. It's retarded.
"There is nothing so holy you can't offend it," - Lars Vilks
I dont really think criminals having guns illegally means that they "allow" criminals to carry firearms, but whatever. Its to supposedly cut down the ability for them to get one, but it doesnt seem to work too well (Im not sure if giving people access to more guns is the solution either, if there is one).
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
"There is nothing so holy you can't offend it," - Lars Vilks
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
By CoolHandLuke [1582871]
hey, does anybody know where i could buy a new kel tec p3at guide rod at?
Try Numrich gun parts. Google it cause I'm not sure if I spelled it correctly. But they will have anything you need for it.
Also you could try the Century Arms website as sometimes they have parts availalble. But then you may not be able to access there site if you don't have a current FFL. But you may be able to if you send them in your information.
Ohh almost forgot I carry a Bersa 380 I have the permit and a class 3 FFL. So I can order straight from the importers. Nothing like seeing the UPS man at the front door with another rifle/pistol/Ammo can in his hand. Makes me feel all warm inside just thinking about it.
Another story from good ole chicago, guy tries rob a convience store, owner pulls a gun, robber gets nothing and the store owner is in jail for illegal use of a firearm. Now he did shoot @ the robber, but honestly, this neighborhood is horrendous. You wouldn't walk down the street I promise that. How are people suppposed to protect themselves? In an area where someone is shot onif not a daily basis, weekly.
"There is nothing so holy you can't offend it," - Lars Vilks
Are you trying to prove that Chicago is worse than Cali?...or just trying to catch up? I've been in Nevada for the last 10 years and we get to shoot criminals.
edit: I was just informed that a pos criminal attempted to rob a jewelry store in cali and got shot. The shop owner wasn't arrested!!! Since the shop owner wasn't white...it wasn't racist.
edit2: forgot to mention that the guy that got shot, SURPRISE!!. was a black guy.
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just is further proof of how pathetic our "society" is becoming.
I wish you wouldn't say things like that, because 40-50 years ago that kind of thinking was not only mainstream, but encouraged and enforced.... I don't know why some people, like you, have this fetish with daydreaming about how bad our societies are, when all stats basically point to a MUCH better standard of living and a MUCH less tolerant society towards racism and discrimination. Just because some idiots still exist does not mean we are worse off than we were in 1962...
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
And what if it puts fear into the hearts of regular citizens who dont want to accidentily get shot in a vigilate shoot out...
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
And what if it puts fear into the hearts of regular citizens who dont want to accidentily get shot in a vigilate shoot out...
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
And what if it puts fear into the hearts of regular citizens who dont want to accidentily get shot in a vigilate shoot out...
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
So what about if you are in a place like 7-11 and you are just standing by the Big-gulp dispenser minding your own buisness. Personally I would rather them give the guy 100 bucks and leave than worry about getting hit by a stray bullet because some Billy Badass decides he wants to shoot the guy.
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
And what if it puts fear into the hearts of regular citizens who dont want to accidentily get shot in a vigilate shoot out...
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
An armed citizen, definition of an armed citizen ?
citizenship is with gun or is not citizenship, there's something strange in your definition
By Zailemaos [936636]
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
yeah, how often do you see that?
someone just getting into trouble willingly.
most likely the armed guy would see you getting mugged and look the other way unless someone else threatened him directly
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
And what if it puts fear into the hearts of regular citizens who dont want to accidentily get shot in a vigilate shoot out...
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
So what about if you are in a place like 7-11 and you are just standing by the Big-gulp dispenser minding your own buisness. Personally I would rather them give the guy 100 bucks and leave than worry about getting hit by a stray bullet because some Billy Badass decides he wants to shoot the guy.
As it stands now, people ARE carrying with CCW's and open carry where it's legal. And how often do you hear stories about Billy Badass playing hero and accidentally shooting an innocent bystander at 7-11 or anywhere(and don't bring up situations where you don't think someone had the right to shoot someone, we're discussing innocent bystanders getting hit with strays not people shooting their target but you not thinking thats ok)? And how often do you hear about burglars, muggers and thieves beating the hell out of people or killing them? I think I'll take my chances as or with Billy around...
Me- "I received a 30 day ban, then 4 days later I noticed it became a 60 day ban. Why?
By Zailemaos [936636]
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
yeah, how often do you see that?
someone just getting into trouble willingly.
most likely the armed guy would see you getting mugged and look the other way unless someone else threatened him directly
I can only speak about where I'm licensed to carry, but here under the alter ego law, if I witnessed such an event, I could legally shoot the mugger. Of course, you're not forced to defend others just because you're carrying but I personally wouldn't just sit there and watch an innocent person being harmed.
Edit: You never know, some "Billy Badass" might just save one of your family members or somebody dear to you. Maybe that'd make a difference to some of you? Maybe it wouldn't. I also wouldn't call somebody who's legally carrying and is proficient with their weapon saving somebody's life a billy badass either. I'd call him/her a stand up individual.
By DeepFriedBacon [1009931]
I meant that in the sense that in order to carry one, you must become a criminal, as no matter what, that's what you are if you do.
Case in point, in orland park, a robber entered a tanning salon, tied up the cashier and was stopped when a "do-gooder" came into the store, wrestled the gun out of the robbers hands and shot and killed the robber. Now, he went home a hero, however, if he had a gun and used it to stop the same crime, he would be charged. Only reason he wasn't was because it wasn't his gun.
Well I dont necessarily think that someone deserves the death penalty for robbing a salon, if the "do-gooder" hadnt come along nobody probably would have been shot. I dont really think its a good thing for people to go around shooting people for stealing 50 bucks from 7-11 because they were scared they might do something. I think there is a difference between protecting yourself and deciding you want to be Judge Dredd for the day, but I guess that's a different issue.
I think conceal and carry laws make criminals more afraid, they never know when a random law abiding citizen could be carrying a gun and stop them. if using our second amendment rights puts fear into the hearts of criminals, than I think thats a good thing
And what if it puts fear into the hearts of regular citizens who dont want to accidentily get shot in a vigilate shoot out...
Not a bad point ted, but if I were getting mugged at gunpoint/threatened with weapon, I'd rather an armed citizen intervene so i can run away.
So what about if you are in a place like 7-11 and you are just standing by the Big-gulp dispenser minding your own buisness. Personally I would rather them give the guy 100 bucks and leave than worry about getting hit by a stray bullet because some Billy Badass decides he wants to shoot the guy.
There is a gas station about 9 or 10 miles from my house. A guy walks in and pulls a gun out. A very good friend of mine (who has a legal carry permit) pulls his gun and tells the guy to put the gun down. The guy shoots and misses, my friend shoots and kills the guy. 2 days later, they found out from surveillance video that the guy who was shot and killed robbed a store about 5 miles further down the road. The video shows him walk into the gas station, not say a word, pull his gun and shoot the owner of the store in the head. The guy grabs the money and a case of beer and walks out. 2 minutes later, he comes back in the store, steps over the dead store owner as if he wasnt even there, grabs a pack of Newports and leaves again. Do you think that if he killed one person that it wouldn't have happened again had my friend not have been there? He felt terrible about what happened, but he feels at the end of the day he saved a life. Im sure this happens more than we know.
There is a gas station about 9 or 10 miles from my house. A guy walks in and pulls a gun out. A very good friend of mine (who has a legal carry permit) pulls his gun and tells the guy to put the gun down. The guy shoots and misses, my friend shoots and kills the guy. 2 days later, they found out from surveillance video that the guy who was shot and killed robbed a store about 5 miles further down the road. The video shows him walk into the gas station, not say a word, pull his gun and shoot the owner of the store in the head. The guy grabs the money and a case of beer and walks out. 2 minutes later, he comes back in the store, steps over the dead store owner as if he wasnt even there, grabs a pack of Newports and leaves again. Do you think that if he killed one person that it wouldn't have happened again had my friend not have been there? He felt terrible about what happened, but he feels at the end of the day he saved a life. Im sure this happens more than we know.
The thing about anecdotes is they mean jack crap in the scheme of things. That is no more a reason to allow concealed guns than a man with a concealed carry permit carrying a gun in his pocket and accidentally shooting himself is a reason to not allow them.
The vast majority of the time when robberies happen, the robber threatens, takes the money and leaves without anyone getting hurt. A 3rd party pulling a gun changes that scenario. Thats' nice that your friend killed a killer, would you feel any different if it was a fake or unloaded gun and he had no intention of hurting anyone? Would you feel as justified for someone getting killed over 100 dollars?
If so, why not make robbing a liquor store a capital offense? We could clear out the prisons a little, people might not rob stores as much. Well at least if they do they definitely wouldnt want to leave witnesses then. Kind of a win, win, lose situation. 2 out of 3 aint bad...
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