|Forum Main>>Suggestions>> MASSIVE poker revamp|
Thread created on Sun May 12, 2013 05:10:14
Last replied to on Sun May 12, 2013 07:15:07
|Okay I don't know if whoever coded the poker game on Torn actually plays poker off-site, but... the game has some flaws. That's not to say I don't enjoy it, it's by far my favorite casino game... but I think there'd be a LOT more people playing if it was fixed up just a little bit.|
1. The algorithm - The biggest, most annoying issue I find is that the algorithm is skewed to make the game more exciting / make "good" hands happen more often than they should... IDK... it's just off, the odds aren't right. I've wound up with the EXACT same hand as someone else at the table (for example, we both have K8... not the same suits obviously) more times in a couple weeks on torn's poker than in my entire off-site career (it SHOULD happen very rarely, statistically... but seems to happen a lot on TC especially when you're playing heads-up). Almost every hand someone winds up with a just AWESOME hand... It doesn't even matter if you "play smart" or not and fold 70% of your hands... people seemingly win with crap pocket cards as often if not more often than good pockets. So yeah... my #1 suggestion would be to fix the algorithm... make it more realistic. This would eliminate the need for no-preflop tables because just entering the table and going all in every hand wouldn't be a viable option (if you've played for any length of time, you've noticed the abundance of people doing this). As the algorithm stands, if no one bets pre-flop you might as well call, no matter what hand you've got because someone pretty much always hits big on the flop/river/turn. On a regular basis you'll see someone with 2 pair wind up going against a straight or flush.
Granted... all these things can happen in real poker... there can be a remarkable number of great hands in a row... but... idk, it just seems like there's way more "good hands" on torn. Anyways, I'm rambling.
My next suggestions are relating to fixing the client and how the user interacts with it.
2. Once the game starts, there should be no need to hit the "start" button every hand. Most people play with multiple tabs open and when the hand ends and the host has to press "start," there's no notification noise like there is when it's your turn to bet/call/check/fold.
3. Automation buttons. For example, "Call any, check/fold, call current bet," this way you can make your decision when looking at the screen whether it's your hand or not. It will speed the games up and remove the necessity to juke the algorithm to make more big hands than there should be.
4. Position issues - There seems to be some issues with the positions / dealer chips. There are times when I've had to post the BB/SB multiple times in a row, either because of someone leaving or joining the table. This should not happen... if someone joins they should have to post the BB regardless of table position. Also this is kind of nitpicky and I could be wrong but I think that in heads-up play, the button posts small-blind, not big blind... whereas in TC it's reversed. I've also noticed (I'm not sure if it's a glitch or the way it's programmed) the betting sometimes being out of order after the flop... like the blinds not being first.
5. Get rid of no preflop. Replace it with limit poker. There's no such thing as "no preflop" poker (at least, I've never seen the option at a casino table, lol), especially no limit. If you fix the algorithm there'll be no need for no preflop and adding in limit poker will make it more accessible to lower levels / people who just want to play "for fun."
6. No automation in instances where everyone but one person is "all-in." Say I have 1 mil and everyone else has 500k, they all go all-in with cards still needing to be turned... Instead of automating the betting rounds, I have to manually click "check" every round even though there'd be no point in doing anything BUT checking... and if I get sidetracked and fail to check I time out and lose my stake in the pot. It makes everyone have to wait longer to continue playing, and really makes the game feel sluggish (it's extremely slow without automation buttons already).
7. More notification sounds. For example if you just started a table and are waiting for players to join, there should be some sort of bell or whistle to alert you to said players joining. As it is, sometimes you've got to wait quite a while for anyone to join, and since poker plays in a separate window instead of tab, it usually winds up getting minimized (it's not very fun to sit there staring at an empty screen). With no notification noises you have no way of knowing when people join. Makes for a lot of dead tables with 1 out of 8 players.
I think if you fix up these issues you'll see a lot more people playing poker (for fake money) on torn instead of say zynga or pokerstars. And it will reward people who actually know how to play as opposed to those who just go all-in every single hand.
While I doubt this will happen since I don't think poker's been patched at all since it was released... I'd really love it since I'm sure a lot of players like BOTH torn and poker, but are kind of turned off by how the actual system falls short.
Last Edited: Sun May 12, 2013 05:17:06
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Posted on Sun May 12, 2013 06:59:48
|point number 7 is redundant with point number 2|
point number 3 is strikingly similar to other poker games
point number 1 is never going to be implemented on torn...atleast not in this life or the next few ones to come
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Posted on Sun May 12, 2013 07:15:07
Pretty sure you're wrong there - the player to the left of the button (dealer) posts the small blind and the player to the left of the small blind pays the big blind. In head to head play this means that player on the button (dealer) ends up paying the big blind, as there is only one other player to their "left" on the table and they have to pay the small blind.
I do agree that the blinds should be sorted out though at the start of the hand, not pre-determined based upon the players left on the table at the end of the previous hand.
This was added in the previous poker revamp so that people who get pissed off at players who play poker "lotto" (ie. going all in pre-flop regardless of what they have in the pocket) don't have to put up with them.
Trust me when I say that no amount of tweaking when it comes to the card generation algorithm will stop fools from going all in pre-flop in pretty much every hand trying to win the "lottery" - it was happening on every single table before no pre-flop tables were introduced (as it does on every online play-money poker site I've ever been on) and it will continue to happen if/when they are taken away.
To be perfectly frank nobody is making you join those tables and last time I checked it's still possible to set up your own table that allows pre-flop raises, so why not just stick to playing pre-flop friendly tables and leave others who would prefer to play on no pre-flop betting tables to do their own thing.
Last Edited: Sun May 12, 2013 08:17:36