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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 10:32:15
muh
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muslamic tewwowists aer takin muh freeeduuuuummmss
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Posted on Sun May 19, 2013 13:42:14
By Paladin14 [1321595]
oh yet another reason to hate islam.


Yet another reason to express your prejudice.

Islam is as diverse as Christianity.

I'm not a fan of any (organised) religion and think it a shame that we've all based our laws on them in one way or another. All the 'progress' that we've made in the past few hundred years is actually just back pedalling.

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Posted on Mon May 20, 2013 11:37:09
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
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f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic

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Posted on Mon May 20, 2013 13:15:50
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


You have yet to add anything of value to this thread, so who are you to tell others to keep on topic?



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Posted on Mon May 20, 2013 20:53:24
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?

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Posted on Mon May 20, 2013 22:25:07
By PwndByLag [1714946]
in the bible the raped victim is forced to marry the rapist. then they both must be stoned.


i like the last part. getting stoned.


I'd like to see the quote/reference if you don't mind.

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Posted on Tue May 21, 2013 12:19:18
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?

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Posted on Tue May 21, 2013 13:25:13
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?


Actually, that was my question for you, when you tried to lecture me on something I'd already said myself.

The problem is that you have poor reading comprehension, or you'd understand that I'm asking if Alicia Gali was innocent. She didn't have the required witnesses, so do you consider that she was raped.

Good job on avoiding answering the question for days.

Your defensive posting during the first page of this thread gives the impression that you don't think an injustice was done, so I'd like to see you post the words that she was wrongly jailed.

Last Edited: Tue May 21, 2013 13:31:10
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Posted on Tue May 21, 2013 16:09:36
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?


Actually, that was my question for you, when you tried to lecture me on something I'd already said myself.

The problem is that you have poor reading comprehension, or you'd understand that I'm asking if Alicia Gali was innocent. She didn't have the required witnesses, so do you consider that she was raped.

Good job on avoiding answering the question for days.

Your defensive posting during the first page of this thread gives the impression that you don't think an injustice was done, so I'd like to see you post the words that she was wrongly jailed.


Specifics are not important to people like E14. He appears to resist seeing people as individuals, and likes to lump particular groups together for easy vilification, as did his apparent hero, Adolf Hitler. Obviously Ms. Gali must be guilty, as she was an adulterous, western, infidel... and above all else, she is a female. So many strikes against her, and of course she didn't have the required number of witnesses to defend her charges of rape, so she must be guilty.



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Posted on Tue May 21, 2013 20:33:44
By Astral [300312]
muh
muh guns
muh freeduummms

muslamic tewwowists aer takin muh freeeduuuuummmss
muh frrreeeeeeduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmsssss


I just noticed this retarded post. Thanks for your contribution.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 03:06:20
I read this article off of Reddit, and I have to agree with you. Absolutely ridiculous! I try not to discriminate against any religion, but this Sharia law stuff takes away basic human rights and I'm pretty sick of it.

I think the world would be better off without organized religion.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 03:20:12
By Klingmeister [1738584]
I read this article off of Reddit, and I have to agree with you. Absolutely ridiculous! I try not to discriminate against any religion, but this Sharia law stuff takes away basic human rights and I'm pretty sick of it.

I think the world would be better off without organized religion.


Typical Reddit user.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 12:51:16
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By Klingmeister [1738584]
I read this article off of Reddit, and I have to agree with you. Absolutely ridiculous! I try not to discriminate against any religion, but this Sharia law stuff takes away basic human rights and I'm pretty sick of it.

I think the world would be better off without organized religion.


Typical Reddit user.


Please post a list of: quality, approved, righteous sites that the highly enlightened, LSD, feels all of us "nubs" should frequent, so that we too can glean all that is good and right in the world of information and knowledge. Thanks. I wait anxiously.

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Posted on Wed May 22, 2013 14:42:21
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By Klingmeister [1738584]
I read this article off of Reddit, and I have to agree with you. Absolutely ridiculous! I try not to discriminate against any religion, but this Sharia law stuff takes away basic human rights and I'm pretty sick of it.

I think the world would be better off without organized religion.


Typical Reddit user.


Do you have an issue that we have different opinions? Or are you just disliking of Reddit? Actually, it doesn't matter, because by making snide comments you've not only nullified your opinion to me, but aided in degrading this debate.



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Posted on Sat May 25, 2013 09:20:20
"The guys (criminal, scum, rapists) deserved jail time, and castration."

Combat one backwards law with another. We are stopping male and female genital mutilation in Europe bit by bit. Let's not go backwards. You sound like a feminist, lets cut the clit off woman who touch kids next hm?

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Posted on Sun May 26, 2013 21:03:20
I have a huge respect for and interest in Islam. I think it is extremely interesting to learn about. Honestly I feel that Muslims get a bad rap, especially here in Amerika. I do think it is a beautiful culture and concept, but it is things like Shari'a law that really hinder it. Shari'a law is an example of how the culture of Islam has failed to evolve with the world around it. It is a damn shame that Islam allows itself to be kept in the gutter because of strict adherance to outdated ideals. On the other hand its also a shame that vast numbers of people are willinh to hate a culture because of something that a minor percentage of that culture follows.

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Posted on Sun May 26, 2013 22:43:42
By DelBoy [1543807]
"The guys (criminal, scum, rapists) deserved jail time, and castration."

Combat one backwards law with another. We are stopping male and female genital mutilation in Europe bit by bit. Let's not go backwards. You sound like a feminist, lets cut the clit off woman who touch kids next hm?


What are you talking about?

I am not a feminist.

I am a humanist, as I am human, and do not have much faith in supernatural.

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Posted on Mon May 27, 2013 09:54:32
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?


Actually, that was my question for you, when you tried to lecture me on something I'd already said myself.

The problem is that you have poor reading comprehension, or you'd understand that I'm asking if Alicia Gali was innocent. She didn't have the required witnesses, so do you consider that she was raped.

Good job on avoiding answering the question for days.

Your defensive posting during the first page of this thread gives the impression that you don't think an injustice was done, so I'd like to see you post the words that she was wrongly jailed.


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

^^^ i just said that clearly you have poor understanding on the meaning of this

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Posted on Mon May 27, 2013 09:58:30
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?


Actually, that was my question for you, when you tried to lecture me on something I'd already said myself.

The problem is that you have poor reading comprehension, or you'd understand that I'm asking if Alicia Gali was innocent. She didn't have the required witnesses, so do you consider that she was raped.

Good job on avoiding answering the question for days.

Your defensive posting during the first page of this thread gives the impression that you don't think an injustice was done, so I'd like to see you post the words that she was wrongly jailed.


Specifics are not important to people like E14. He appears to resist seeing people as individuals, and likes to lump particular groups together for easy vilification, as did his apparent hero, Adolf Hitler. Obviously Ms. Gali must be guilty, as she was an adulterous, western, infidel... and above all else, she is a female. So many strikes against her, and of course she didn't have the required number of witnesses to defend her charges of rape, so she must be guilty.



death to infidels mwahahahahaha

I will not explain again as i have explained many times, so there are two options

number 1 - your either blind or have difficulties in reading and easy miss my points

number 2 - your either a bigot and completely ignore my post <--- i'll go with this one

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Posted on Mon May 27, 2013 19:23:53
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By MachineGunSteve [184119]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?


Actually, that was my question for you, when you tried to lecture me on something I'd already said myself.

The problem is that you have poor reading comprehension, or you'd understand that I'm asking if Alicia Gali was innocent. She didn't have the required witnesses, so do you consider that she was raped.

Good job on avoiding answering the question for days.

Your defensive posting during the first page of this thread gives the impression that you don't think an injustice was done, so I'd like to see you post the words that she was wrongly jailed.


Specifics are not important to people like E14. He appears to resist seeing people as individuals, and likes to lump particular groups together for easy vilification, as did his apparent hero, Adolf Hitler. Obviously Ms. Gali must be guilty, as she was an adulterous, western, infidel... and above all else, she is a female. So many strikes against her, and of course she didn't have the required number of witnesses to defend her charges of rape, so she must be guilty.



death to infidels mwahahahahaha

I will not explain again as i have explained many times, so there are two options

number 1 - your either blind or have difficulties in reading and easy miss my points

number 2 - your either a bigot and completely ignore my post --- i'll go with this one


There is a third option. You could admit that you are the actual bigot, and you could admit that Sharia law has little place in the modern world... and then you could apologize for ever using an Adolf Hitler quote for any reason, as it is considered by most any logical, educated, or reasonable person to be bad form to do so, especially in a situation in which you are basically incriminating an entire nation.

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Posted on Tue May 28, 2013 01:26:39
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]Regardless, I don't see who he hates as being relevant to the thread. I'm more interested in whether E14 thinks a woman in that situation should be jailed.


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By E14-SOLIDER [430960]
f**k the jews!

words from adolf hitler

"I could have annihilated all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was Annihilating them."

wish he did


By E14-SOLIDER [430960]st cause I quoted a line from Hitler does not mean I'm a Naz. Sympathizer, say if I quite a line from superman does it make me superman?


Hmm? Didn't you say you "wish he did" kill all the Jews?
And anyway, you clearly don't understand how analogies work. If you said, "I hate the criminals of Superman's world, I wish he would catch them all", well, yes, you'd CLEARLY be a Superman SYMPATHIZER. Nobody said you were Hitler.

So at any rate, E14, do you think it is wrong or right to put a woman in jail for being drugged and raped?


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

as i said before this is not the original shariah law anyway

and this thread is not about what my views are towards the jews so pleas refrain from getting off topic


Don't try to lecture me, when I already said the same thing, read the quote at the start of this post.

Mmmmhmmm, it's wrong to put someone innocent in jail.
So were they wrong to jail Alicia Gali?


can you not read?


Actually, that was my question for you, when you tried to lecture me on something I'd already said myself.

The problem is that you have poor reading comprehension, or you'd understand that I'm asking if Alicia Gali was innocent. She didn't have the required witnesses, so do you consider that she was raped.

Good job on avoiding answering the question for days.

Your defensive posting during the first page of this thread gives the impression that you don't think an injustice was done, so I'd like to see you post the words that she was wrongly jailed.


its wrong to put an innocent in jail what ever the reason is

^^^ i just said that clearly you have poor understanding on the meaning of this


Congrats on repeating something that had no relevance to my post. And congrats on the irony of you commenting on MY understanding.

I clearly explained that I was asking if she was innocent. I mean I literally spelled it out.

You must be trolling, there's no way you have that much trouble reading.

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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 01:00:55
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"The guys (criminal, scum, rapists) deserved jail time, and castration."

Combat one backwards law with another. We are stopping male and female genital mutilation in Europe bit by bit. Let's not go backwards. You sound like a feminist, lets cut the clit off woman who touch kids next hm?


What are you talking about?

I am not a feminist.

I am a humanist, as I am human, and do not have much faith in supernatural.

As a humanist, have you got faith in mankind?



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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 01:15:02
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There is a third option. You could admit that you are the actual bigot, and you could admit that Sharia law has little place in the modern world... and then you could apologize for ever using an Adolf Hitler quote for any reason, as it is considered by most any logical, educated, or reasonable person to be bad form to do so, especially in a situation in which you are basically incriminating an entire nation.


You - all of you - forgot the 4th option:
You could all admit that such matters as 'to which law must all humans adhere' is ultimately a question that can only be satisfacorily solved at the point of a Bayonet.

I give you the US Civil War as proof of point. Considering the record of some four score and seven years of reasoning over the basic issue - should some men be held as inferior to all others on account of the colour of their skin? - you won't persuade me that any conceivable outcome of a process of yaw-yaw would have been preferable to the historical outcome.

Seen in that light, the arguments of the person you were debating with were not arguments designed to persuade you, but a simple statement of what he will kill and die for.

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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 04:42:21
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By DelBoy [1543807]
"The guys (criminal, scum, rapists) deserved jail time, and castration."

Combat one backwards law with another. We are stopping male and female genital mutilation in Europe bit by bit. Let's not go backwards. You sound like a feminist, lets cut the clit off woman who touch kids next hm?


What are you talking about?

I am not a feminist.

I am a humanist, as I am human, and do not have much faith in supernatural.

As a humanist, have you got faith in mankind?



To be honest I have little faith in anything other than a very long dark nap in any of our futures, but to be frank, I do have more faith in humankind than in any omnipotent being/creator. However, I am willing to be persuaded given enough evidence.

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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 04:44:32
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There is a third option. You could admit that you are the actual bigot, and you could admit that Sharia law has little place in the modern world... and then you could apologize for ever using an Adolf Hitler quote for any reason, as it is considered by most any logical, educated, or reasonable person to be bad form to do so, especially in a situation in which you are basically incriminating an entire nation.


You - all of you - forgot the 4th option:
You could all admit that such matters as 'to which law must all humans adhere' is ultimately a question that can only be satisfacorily solved at the point of a Bayonet.

I give you the US Civil War as proof of point. Considering the record of some four score and seven years of reasoning over the basic issue - should some men be held as inferior to all others on account of the colour of their skin? - you won't persuade me that any conceivable outcome of a process of yaw-yaw would have been preferable to the historical outcome.

Seen in that light, the arguments of the person you were debating with were not arguments designed to persuade you, but a simple statement of what he will kill and die for.


I had not forgotten the ultimate solution to all of humanities problems. I envision that very solution coming to pass before too long... sadly.

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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 07:07:39
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There is a third option. You could admit that you are the actual bigot, and you could admit that Sharia law has little place in the modern world... and then you could apologize for ever using an Adolf Hitler quote for any reason, as it is considered by most any logical, educated, or reasonable person to be bad form to do so, especially in a situation in which you are basically incriminating an entire nation.


You - all of you - forgot the 4th option:
You could all admit that such matters as 'to which law must all humans adhere' is ultimately a question that can only be satisfacorily solved at the point of a Bayonet.

I give you the US Civil War as proof of point. Considering the record of some four score and seven years of reasoning over the basic issue - should some men be held as inferior to all others on account of the colour of their skin? - you won't persuade me that any conceivable outcome of a process of yaw-yaw would have been preferable to the historical outcome.

Seen in that light, the arguments of the person you were debating with were not arguments designed to persuade you, but a simple statement of what he will kill and die for.


I had not forgotten the ultimate solution to all of humanities problems. I envision that very solution coming to pass before too long... sadly.


Do you think America was the worse for passing through the fire of Civil War?
Destiny demands Sacrifice.

Call me a bloodthirsty Romantic ( all Romantics are bloodthirsty, you know? ) but I'm inclined to borrow the Amrican Rhetoric of John Adams ( CF Amistad ):
Give us the courage to do what is right. And if it means civil war, then let it come. And when it does, may it be, finally, the last battle of the American Revolution.


That's all I have to say.



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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:52:09
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By DarthBrogo [21801]
By MachineGunSteve [184119]


There is a third option. You could admit that you are the actual bigot, and you could admit that Sharia law has little place in the modern world... and then you could apologize for ever using an Adolf Hitler quote for any reason, as it is considered by most any logical, educated, or reasonable person to be bad form to do so, especially in a situation in which you are basically incriminating an entire nation.


You - all of you - forgot the 4th option:
You could all admit that such matters as 'to which law must all humans adhere' is ultimately a question that can only be satisfacorily solved at the point of a Bayonet.

I give you the US Civil War as proof of point. Considering the record of some four score and seven years of reasoning over the basic issue - should some men be held as inferior to all others on account of the colour of their skin? - you won't persuade me that any conceivable outcome of a process of yaw-yaw would have been preferable to the historical outcome.

Seen in that light, the arguments of the person you were debating with were not arguments designed to persuade you, but a simple statement of what he will kill and die for.


I had not forgotten the ultimate solution to all of humanities problems. I envision that very solution coming to pass before too long... sadly.


Do you think America was the worse for passing through the fire of Civil War?
Destiny demands Sacrifice.

Call me a bloodthirsty Romantic ( all Romantics are bloodthirsty, you know? ) but I'm inclined to borrow the Amrican Rhetoric of John Adams ( CF Amistad ):
Give us the courage to do what is right. And if it means civil war, then let it come. And when it does, may it be, finally, the last battle of the American Revolution.


That's all I have to say.



The trouble is that with humans there never is a "last battle".

I will concede that war is necessary as an end game in the continuous struggle that is the human condition. That doesn't mean I have to embrace or celebrate the lamentable legacy.


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The trouble is that with humans there never is a "last battle".

I will concede that war is necessary as an end game in the continuous struggle that is the human condition. That doesn't mean I have to embrace or celebrate the lamentable legacy.


I think that embracing an unavoidable duty beats denying it.

It is the old story of the Highway Code - the issue that must be settled, cannot be allowed to remain unsetled. We cannot escape History.
Would you have it said that our generation - who endured the Cold War - turned our backs on challenge which is by comparison a trifle?

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The trouble is that with humans there never is a "last battle".

I will concede that war is necessary as an end game in the continuous struggle that is the human condition. That doesn't mean I have to embrace or celebrate the lamentable legacy.


I think that embracing an unavoidable duty beats denying it.

It is the old story of the Highway Code - the issue that must be settled, cannot be allowed to remain unsetled. We cannot escape History.
Would you have it said that our generation - who endured the Cold War - turned our backs on challenge which is by comparison a trifle?


I agree.

But, that doesn't mean that as a thinking human being, I can not dream of the unlikely evolution of humans into beings that learn to settle their disagreements in a manner that is nonviolent. Wasn't that the reason Jesus supposedly died on the cross for us?



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Posted on Wed Jun 05, 2013 22:27:28
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The trouble is that with humans there never is a "last battle".

I will concede that war is necessary as an end game in the continuous struggle that is the human condition. That doesn't mean I have to embrace or celebrate the lamentable legacy.


I think that embracing an unavoidable duty beats denying it.

It is the old story of the Highway Code - the issue that must be settled, cannot be allowed to remain unsetled. We cannot escape History.
Would you have it said that our generation - who endured the Cold War - turned our backs on challenge which is by comparison a trifle?


I agree.

But, that doesn't mean that as a thinking human being, I can not dream of the unlikely evolution of humans into beings that learn to settle their disagreements in a manner that is nonviolent. Wasn't that the reason Jesus supposedly died on the cross for us?



Evolution, likely or unlikely, is a long-term process. A distant maybe has never struck me as a good reason to prevaricate after 1st year secondary school - the teacher did not get sick and the test did come up.

And Jesus most certainly did NOT die on the cross for that purpose.
Nor did the Angels either wish or promise universal peace in the sky over Bethlehem.

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