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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 05:54:44
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Hahahaha. Bah, sheep.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 05:55:03
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I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control 
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 05:56:42
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By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
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I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right?
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:00:51
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By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right? |
It's naive to think there weren't any votes cast because of race, both for and against. The same said because of religion.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:01:23
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By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
I guess it wouldn't hurt to start teaching high schoolers how to research for elections. Write a paper about who they would vote for and why they think they are the best choice.
I remember doing a mock election when it was Bush vs Gore. We weren't told to research or shown how. We were just asked. There was no sharing why we voted for who.
That could make a monumental difference.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:05:14
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By GirlFriday [570368]
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By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right? |
It's naive to think there weren't any votes cast because of race, both for and against. The same said because of religion. |
True but to blame race and to say the election is decided based on it is foolish.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:07:17
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GirlFriday, you're mostly right that high schoolers aren't voting, although there are indeed some seniors who turn 18 in the first few months of school that do. But that's not the point, the point is to get kids educated about things that actually matter, as opposed to force feeding them things to pass state mandated tests that there isn't much evidence they are working or not, or spend time worrying about handing out birth control
I don't think it'd be a disservice to the country if high school kids were, God forbid, required to take at least 1 or 2 years worth of political courses that required them to do some research on a candidate/election of their choice to help get them interested and educated in things that will affect all of their lives. Seeing as it's considered a success if we get 60% of eligible voters to turn out for an election, perhaps it's not a bad idea to try to encourage more people to be more informed? Or is that just crazy talk?
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:07:30
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By Smidget [1385446]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
I guess it wouldn't hurt to start teaching high schoolers how to research for elections. Write a paper about who they would vote for and why they think they are the best choice.
I remember doing a mock election when it was Bush vs Gore. We weren't told to research or shown how. We were just asked. There was no sharing why we voted for who.
That could make a monumental difference. |
Double edged sword though if (and when) it is taught it's generally teaching students WHO to vote for not HOW to decide who to vote for. Teachers would rather teach their point of view their values etc. than how to create your own.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:08:46
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By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
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By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right? |
It's naive to think there weren't any votes cast because of race, both for and against. The same said because of religion. |
True but to blame race and to say the election is decided based on it is foolish. |
She didn't say it decided it, she said it played a factor. And thats true.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:09:48
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By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right? |
It's naive to think there weren't any votes cast because of race, both for and against. The same said because of religion. |
True but to blame race and to say the election is decided based on it is foolish. |
She didn't say it decided it, she said it played a factor. And thats true. |
No she didn't but you pretty much did. Takes someone with below average IQ to state the obvious (seeing as you brought up IQ). You're the one that keeps yapping about people who voted for Obama are clueless etc. yet don't say what makes voting for Romney so great in comparison. The way I see it none of them can back their vote for Romney because they don't have a good reason, not that I blame them seeing as he never gave a good reason to vote for him.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:12:06
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I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
I guess it wouldn't hurt to start teaching high schoolers how to research for elections. Write a paper about who they would vote for and why they think they are the best choice.
I remember doing a mock election when it was Bush vs Gore. We weren't told to research or shown how. We were just asked. There was no sharing why we voted for who.
That could make a monumental difference. |
Double edged sword though if (and when) it is taught it's generally teaching students WHO to vote for not HOW to decide who to vote for. Teachers would rather teach their point of view their values etc. than how to create your own. |
True indeed. That'd be my concern.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:12:16
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By GirlFriday [570368]
By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right? |
It's naive to think there weren't any votes cast because of race, both for and against. The same said because of religion. |
True but to blame race and to say the election is decided based on it is foolish. |
She didn't say it decided it, she said it played a factor. And thats true. |
No she didn't but you pretty much did. |
I said it played more of a part than it should have, yes. I will not deny that. Race played a HUGE part in this election.... prove me wrong for saying that....
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:13:06
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By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By GirlFriday [570368]
By bosox [278767]
By Smidget [1385446]
I do, however, think everyone should be required to spend so many hours researching candidates before they can vote. |
God forbid teachers in High Schools educate students on current political events, rather than worrying about possibly offending anyone if they play the national anthem and/or arguing about whether or not they should hand out free and confidential birth control
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
And this is coming from someone who voted for Obama in this election. |
Huh? High school students aren't the ones voting. She's right, maybe if people were researching their candidates they would make better choices. |
What is interesting is the results of young voters. Oh wait nvm, was all race based voting right? |
It's naive to think there weren't any votes cast because of race, both for and against. The same said because of religion. |
True but to blame race and to say the election is decided based on it is foolish. |
She didn't say it decided it, she said it played a factor. And thats true. |
No she didn't but you pretty much did. |
I said it played more of a part than it should have, yes. I will not deny that. Race played a HUGE part in this election.... prove me wrong for saying that.... |
It's not for me to prove, you're the one making baseless claims, they're for you to prove that you're making these claims based on credible evidence. You made the claims I'd HOPE you have credible sources, I mean why else would you make them? It'd be dumb to make such claims without credible evidence and research wouldn't it?
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:14:34
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Crow and Mistress, I think you two (and the rest of us) know that you're talking to each other and about what, so I'm not sure it's necessary anymore to keep quoting 15 replies every time you post
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:14:37
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Bosox and Smidget, yes. You're right. It would be helpful for them to have some political classes. MistressBallsy is right too. Would be hard to keep the teacher's political bent out of it.
As it is, most of us get our beginning political ideals from our family. When I first registered to vote, I chose republican because that's all I was raised around, and everyone knows democrats are scum-sucking asses.
But seriously, I think I voted straight republican the first time I ever voted because I knew absolutely nothing about the candidates and never took the time to even try to find out. (To be fair, I was very busy drinking and stuff back then.)
Edit: For the record, I am Libertarian.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:24:14
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Bosox and Smidget, yes. You're right. It would be helpful for them to have some political classes. MistressBallsy is right too. Would be hard to keep the teacher's political bent out of it.
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I had to take political science in high school, didn't know they quit that. Then again, it's been a while since I was in high school. Luckily, I did have a teacher that kept their views out of it and main goal was just to educate us on the subject in general.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:26:38
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I would have voted 3rd party if it was a REAL option. I'm just really surprised by the lack of reasons people have for being pro-romney.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:27:52
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I would have voted 3rd party if it was a REAL option. I'm just really surprised by the lack of reasons people have for being pro-romney. |
Here here!
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:29:43
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In my experience, and I know some posters on here absolutely hate personal experience tedThomas, political science classes in high school and college pretty much begin and end with "how a bill becomes a law" videos and some Cold War Era politics. It seems the term "current events" is taboo in most schools in America and teachers actually do get uncomfortable and nervous about losing their job if they actually allow for any real discussion about these things, other than just silly dumb jokes or a few semi-ignorant remarks between a few students.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:32:52
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Would anyone be surprised if I said that 96% of black people voted for Obama???? Nope
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 90% of white people voted for Romney??? Yep, and it would be called racist.....
"One of these things are not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong"....
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:33:03
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I would have voted 3rd party if it was a REAL option. I'm just really surprised by the lack of reasons people have for being pro-romney. |
I don't find it surprising at all. I won't mention who I voted for but I did my research on each candidate and follow politics, not just during election time. I'd venture to say quite a bit of them voted for Romney just because they didn't like Obama. Now, ask them why they didn't like Obama for extra entertainment (for lack of better word). 
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:33:22
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lol... Talked to someone who is disappointed. She is telling me all about how Obama is muslim.
A few days ago this person told me that the admin where she works is mean and voting for Obama. I asked this person how they knew that and she said "he's black." I asked if that admin had said that, but she told me no. When asked how do you know? She told me she just knew.
For the record, this person is anti-same sex marriage and pretty much anti anything progressive.
Just sayin.
EDIT: Regardless of her ignorance I love her to death.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:35:38
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Would anyone be surprised if I said that 96% of black people voted for Obama???? Nope
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 90% of white people voted for Romney??? Yep, and it would be called racist.....
"One of these things are not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong"....
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Considering what you said has NO basis in reality why should I humor those comments? You know the stats on this are free to everyone right? I hope this doesn't reflect your voting habits though it's probably safe to say it does.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:36:01
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Ok did I miss something or is this like 4 years ago and the phrase "just sayin" has become cool to use again? I mean seriously?
Or does the phrase only surface when dumb trolls try trolling each other?
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:37:11
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Well regardless of the Presidential/Senate/House elections, MA passed laws allowing medicinal marijuana use and Colorado became the first state to outright legalize the use, sale and regulation of recreational marijuana. |
4:20 brah.
Im interested to see how this all works out, seems kind of unreal at the moment. I might have to stay in Colorado for a couple more years...
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...way to go america u voted for another 4 years of skyrocketing unemployment..trillions of dollars in more debt to china....and just completely screwed us..i hope ur all happy |
Actually unemployment has been going down for awhile, the housing market is going up, the stock market is going up, in fact pretty much every economic indicator has been going up.
But keep running around with your helmet on Chicken Little if thats what you want to do...
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:39:00
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I would have voted 3rd party if it was a REAL option. I'm just really surprised by the lack of reasons people have for being pro-romney. |
It is a real option. Your vote is your voice. I will not vote for the corrupt two parties who keep us in this mess any longer.
Don't make a mistake, the problem with this country isn't our president, it's our citizens. You are the people who keep us without choices.
By the way, I'd just like to point out to those of you who voted for Obama...you just re-elected the guy who signed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which allows the indefinite detention of US citizens. Hope you didn't like that right.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:39:26
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By bosox [278767]
But you're right, Klude. The much more socialist and probably more closely related to democratic Europe has fared much better overall with their own financial happenings and happy citizens
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Actually, most european right-wing politicians (and certainly their parties) would be considered a far cry left of the common democrat. Tbh, I'm pretty sure even Norways' decidedly mos right-wing party are somewhat further to the left than the Democrats...or even the Greens.
There are bigger cultural differences between Europe and USA than most people actually realize at times.
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:39:47
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Would anyone be surprised if I said that 96% of black people voted for Obama???? Nope
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 90% of white people voted for Romney??? Yep, and it would be called racist.....
"One of these things are not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong"....
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Considering what you said has NO basis in reality why should I humor those comments? You know the stats on this are free to everyone right? I hope this doesn't reflect your voting habits though it's probably safe to say it does. |
Last I checked Caucasians were still the majority in the US. Majority wins, doesn't it? If 90% of white people voted Romney wouldn't he have won?
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:40:57
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By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By _TheCrow_ [686314]
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 96% of black people voted for Obama???? Nope
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 90% of white people voted for Romney??? Yep, and it would be called racist.....
"One of these things are not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong"....
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Considering what you said has NO basis in reality why should I humor those comments? You know the stats on this are free to everyone right? I hope this doesn't reflect your voting habits though it's probably safe to say it does. |
You didn't refute anything.... what is your point?? Prove me wrong and THEN run your mouth..... no you won't and no you can't....
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Posted on Wed Nov 07, 2012 06:41:52
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By Smidget [1385446]
By MistressBallKkr [1322136]
By _TheCrow_ [686314]
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 96% of black people voted for Obama???? Nope
Would anyone be surprised if I said that 90% of white people voted for Romney??? Yep, and it would be called racist.....
"One of these things are not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong"....
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Considering what you said has NO basis in reality why should I humor those comments? You know the stats on this are free to everyone right? I hope this doesn't reflect your voting habits though it's probably safe to say it does. |
Last I checked Caucasians were still the majority in the US. Majority wins, doesn't it? If 90% of white people voted Romney wouldn't he have won?
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Actually yes if 90% of white people voted for him he would have won.
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