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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 07:59:30
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By LadyMel [608148]
No doubt Ted. And I'm not implying that by the way. GirlFriday chimed into a conversation and for argument sake I kept it going.
I read the 911 transcript and I would guess that Zimmerman must have found him and confronted him in a hostile way. By the things he said in the call, I found him to be more than determined to catch him. |
By the things he said in the call? Which part? The part where he said "Ok" when the dispatcher told him "we don't need you to follow him" or the part where the dispatcher asked him for the ethnicity of Trayvon? I'm sorry, but nothing on the 911 tape indicated aggression in my opinion.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj7qEcD8R-8
You seam at least somewhat intelligent, so I would assume your deductive reasoning skills are adequate, so please tell me which part of that call made Zimmerman seam like an aggressor. They asked, he answered... They suggested he stop following, and he did. He was even leery and somewhat scared to give out personal info because he didn't know Martins location (You know Martin, the guy who started running while George was on the phone with dispatch who was yards away from his house yet somehow ended up closer to Zimmermans truck than his own dads house even though people like you assume he feared for his life and tried to run home .... yeah that guy).
Like Girlfriday said, if he was actually scared he would have retreated. He had more than enough time to do so. 2:11 into the 4:17 call he said Martin started running (unless you're crazy enough to think that Zimmerman wanted to kill a random teen so badly that the 911 call was a premeditated cover story, in which case all of you claiming Zimmerman is a complete dumbass has a lot of explaining to do)... thats atleast 2 minutes that the young and athletic Trayvon had to make it 70 yards (for reference, 300-400 pound lineman in high school and/or college can run 40 yards in less than 10 seconds and they are not in fear of their lives) and thats just the head start, Zimmerman would have had to make up the distance Martin had already traveled AND catch up to him.
You can keep saying "Martin just turned around and defended himself" all you want, but simple logic proves that theory wrong unless Martin stood still for more than 2 minutes and THEN turned around.... which would make no sense.... UNLESS he CHOSE to confront Zimmerman... |
Seems you should catch up with your boy, he told Sean Hannity that he skipped away (and that he could tell he wasnt scared somehow, lol).
(Unless you are crazy enough to think that a pot smoking teenager Trayvon just randomly wanted to kill a random stranger walking home from the store just for following him, even going as far as trying to smother him and say "you are going to die tonight motherf**ker" like in a shitty movie)
You can keep saying that "Zimmerman just was walking back to his truck and Trayvon attacked him from no reason" all you want, but simple logic proves your theory wrong since it is completely possible that Zimmerman actually ran and/or went another way and caught up with Trayvon since he was walking fast not running and then they argued and a fight happened...which would make a lot of sense...Especially if Zimmerman CHOSE to confront Trayvon because he has, what the detective in the case called, a "hero complex".
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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 08:12:37
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By TedThomas [887131]
What I will admit to is that I was probably too overzealous with the race thing in this thread |
WTF?!?!?!?
WTF?!?!?!?
WTF!?!?!?!
You JUST said......
WHAT THE MOTHERf**kING f**k?!?!?!?
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You.... f**k you.... you JUST said......... I quit..
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TedThomas
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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 08:22:43
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I have said from the start that I thought Zimmerman was full of shit because his story sounds like bullshit and I already said I said something wrong in this thread TO YOU, I dont know what you are surprised about.
Most of everything I said about race had to do with right wing BS you and Luke have, and continue to spout.
And before you say you dont regurgitate right wing bullcrap, answer this. How is it that both you and Luke both brought up this complete made up bullshit about Trayvon being in a fight club within less than a week of each other? Did you tell each other about it or could it be you both get your bullcrap from the conservative echo chamber?
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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:52:10
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By _TheCrow_ [686314]
By TedThomas [887131]
What I will admit to is that I was probably too overzealous with the race thing in this thread |
WTF?!?!?!?
WTF?!?!?!?
WTF!?!?!?!
You JUST said......
WHAT THE MOTHERf**kING f**k?!?!?!?
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You.... f**k you.... you JUST said......... I quit.. |
Clearly, the real victim in this whole Trayvon Martin ordeal is Crow, who is massively getting trolled by Ted. 
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LadyMel
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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 18:59:43
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By _TheCrow_ [686314]
By LadyMel [608148]
No doubt Ted. And I'm not implying that by the way. GirlFriday chimed into a conversation and for argument sake I kept it going.
I read the 911 transcript and I would guess that Zimmerman must have found him and confronted him in a hostile way. By the things he said in the call, I found him to be more than determined to catch him. |
By the things he said in the call? Which part? The part where he said "Ok" when the dispatcher told him "we don't need you to follow him" or the part where the dispatcher asked him for the ethnicity of Trayvon? I'm sorry, but nothing on the 911 tape indicated aggression in my opinion.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj7qEcD8R-8
You seam at least somewhat intelligent, so I would assume your deductive reasoning skills are adequate, so please tell me which part of that call made Zimmerman seam like an aggressor. They asked, he answered... They suggested he stop following, and he did. He was even leery and somewhat scared to give out personal info because he didn't know Martins location (You know Martin, the guy who started running while George was on the phone with dispatch who was yards away from his house yet somehow ended up closer to Zimmermans truck than his own dads house even though people like you assume he feared for his life and tried to run home .... yeah that guy).
Like Girlfriday said, if he was actually scared he would have retreated. He had more than enough time to do so. 2:11 into the 4:17 call he said Martin started running (unless you're crazy enough to think that Zimmerman wanted to kill a random teen so badly that the 911 call was a premeditated cover story, in which case all of you claiming Zimmerman is a complete dumbass has a lot of explaining to do)... thats atleast 2 minutes that the young and athletic Trayvon had to make it 70 yards (for reference, 300-400 pound lineman in high school and/or college can run 40 yards in less than 10 seconds and they are not in fear of their lives) and thats just the head start, Zimmerman would have had to make up the distance Martin had already traveled AND catch up to him.
You can keep saying "Martin just turned around and defended himself" all you want, but simple logic proves that theory wrong unless Martin stood still for more than 2 minutes and THEN turned around.... which would make no sense.... UNLESS he CHOSE to confront Zimmerman... |
Well actually, the part where he says, and this is a loose quote, that he's tired of these assholes getitng away. You could tell he's still following them as the dispatcher tells him not to. If he was going to stay where he was, he wouldn't need the cops to call him when they got there. He definitely intended to capture the perp. This is not a teenage kid to him. This is a criminal. So yeah, I do believe he was the aggressor and it was not a friendly chat when he caught up to him.
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CoolHandLuke
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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 23:04:28
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By TedThomas [887131]
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By TedThomas [887131]
Jesus Christ. The reason I think Zimmerman is full of crap has absolutely to do with race |
at least you admit it finally. |
Admit what, I have never said that I thought he was lying because of anything to do with race.
In fact the large majority of anything I have said about race in this case was in respect to the police taking so long to take him in to custody, and pretty much the rest of what I had to say was in to response to people like you who are so adamant that race had absolutely nothing to do with Zimmerman thinking Trayvon was suspicious.
None of which has anything to do with whether he made up a bullshit story to cover his ass.
What I will admit to is that I was probably too overzealous with the race thing in this thread but that was towards idiots like you just regurgitating right wing talking points. The more Zimmerman keeps talking the more it comes clear that he is more of a dumbass than anything. |
in that statement you did...good thing your smart though...
and i havnt said anything i heard on fox or cnbc because believe it or not people CAN form an opinion without bias media. (since that seems to be so hard for you to understand, i will assume your to dumb to think without your bias media telling you what to think)
as foolish as his story might or might not sound, yours is even more foolish. Since you were not there, the girlfriend over the phone doesn't know a damn thing about what went down, and none of the eye-witnesses can keep their own story straight, saying they were coerced to say this or that.
But on this note, i will stop playing games with you ted.
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Posted on Wed Dec 12, 2012 23:11:42
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By TedThomas [887131]
I have said from the start that I thought Zimmerman was full of shit because his story sounds like bullshit and I already said I said something wrong in this thread TO YOU, I dont know what you are surprised about.
Most of everything I said about race had to do with right wing BS you and Luke have, and continue to spout.
And before you say you dont regurgitate right wing bullcrap, answer this. How is it that both you and Luke both brought up this complete made up bullshit about Trayvon being in a fight club within less than a week of each other? Did you tell each other about it or could it be you both get your bullcrap from the conservative echo chamber? |
actually, i seen him make a post about it and did something called RESEARCH....you must not be familiar with that term...
i also didnt say he was in a fight club, i said it was rumored he was a fighter...since i couldn't find more then 3 solid sites that said he was or wasnt. Nice try, but not this time...keep searching for a AH-HA point against me please.
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LadyMel
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Posted on Thu Dec 13, 2012 00:35:26
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So Luke.. What kind of fighter was he rumored to be? Was it some kind of organized fighting ring he was affiliated with? Did he like to get into fights, etc?
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Posted on Thu Dec 13, 2012 00:55:53
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By LadyMel [608148]
So Luke.. What kind of fighter was he rumored to be? Was it some kind of organized fighting ring he was affiliated with? Did he like to get into fights, etc? |
i have found links saying he was in a "fight club", was a ref for fights or had nothing to do with any kind of fighting. Sorry, hope that answers your question.
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TedThomas
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Posted on Thu Dec 13, 2012 06:44:02
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Again. The word is BIASED.
Guess what? Your "links" are wrong stupid.
You can "research" all you want but unfortunately for you, you have no critical thinking skills to be able to weed out bullshit from the truth so it means absolutely jack shit. You go to places that tell you things you want hear and you eat up, then think you are an independent thinker. Its pretty funny actually.
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Posted on Thu Dec 13, 2012 06:59:39
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By CoolHandLuke [1582871]
By TedThomas [887131]
I have said from the start that I thought Zimmerman was full of shit because his story sounds like bullshit and I already said I said something wrong in this thread TO YOU, I dont know what you are surprised about.
Most of everything I said about race had to do with right wing BS you and Luke have, and continue to spout.
And before you say you dont regurgitate right wing bullcrap, answer this. How is it that both you and Luke both brought up this complete made up bullshit about Trayvon being in a fight club within less than a week of each other? Did you tell each other about it or could it be you both get your bullcrap from the conservative echo chamber? |
actually, i seen him make a post about it and did something called RESEARCH....you must not be familiar with that term...
i also didnt say he was in a fight club, i said it was rumored he was a fighter...since i couldn't find more then 3 solid sites that said he was or wasnt. Nice try, but not this time...keep searching for a AH-HA point against me please. |
Right, and your "research" lead to you spouting completely untrue bullshit that you had to be told was wrong before you realized it was wrong, like usual. Weird how that happens.
The reason you are so confused on what is true or not because different links say different things, is because you are a dumbass. Anyone with the actual ability to research anything would quickly find that that claim is based on a random video of a black kid fighting that someone decided to say was Trayvon and that there is no factual basis in the claim at all.
That crap would be equivalent to someone coming in here and saying the read on some "links" that Zimmerman was a member of the KKK, and when someone pointed out that is complete bullshit, they say "what, I didnt say it was true. It just said its rumored its true".
If you dont know if it is true or not, here is a hint. Dont bring it up in an argument unless you want to look like an idiot.
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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:05:30
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Gunna throw in my 2 cents. If you haven't noticed most kids these days think they are untouchable and are on top of the world. In my belief trayvon is no different. Sure this f**king guy was following him, no I.don't think it was race related, the cop on phone asked what race the kid was (look up unedited transcript of 911 call). Trayvon got creeper out about a guy following him for however many blocks. So he.confronts him, and probably thinks "f**k this white boy doing thinking he can follow me", typical kid. Hits him thinking he tough, took it too far and got shot after he refused to stop pummeling this fat slob. Do I think trayvon "got what he deserved". Not at all, but he was also wrong. He put.Zimmerman in that position where he had to choose whether or not to shoot the guy. Had he just ignored Zimmerman and walk home or even run, he would still be alive. That is very logical. People act like Zimmerman executed the kid Smh. Typical America, riding the racist media angle. Gtfoh.
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Posted on Sat Dec 15, 2012 00:32:17
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i had a post for ya ted, but remembered i was done showing your ignorance. (theres was a vid on trayvon's page of him being a ref for a fight, in which they actually call him by name).
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/youtube-pulls-video-of-trayvon-martin-at-fight-club-but-they-cant-hide-it-forever-here-it-is-again/
sorry, but i did my research, maybe you should learn how to do your own.
i already know what you will say but dont really give a damn. I will let you think Trayvon was a perfect kid growing up and continued as he grew older, and that Zimmerman is just a white racist whos only purpose that night was to go out look for a black man and kill him for no reason. Enjoy your extremely crooked point of view Sir.
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Posted on Sat Dec 15, 2012 03:25:32
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Lol. You are a joke.
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