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Thread created on Mon Jan 14, 2013 19:34:02
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What is the scuttle-butt on on a possible move of Celtic and Rangers to BPL?

Is is possible? Would the teams move directly into the Premiership?

I heard Rednapp likes the idea. Are there any other prominent persons suggesting this is possible?

I live in the USA, so the news over here on such topics is nonexistent, and I only read a small article on the subject by accident, so I am not sure if this is a real possibility, or just a snippet of nonsense.

What have you across-the-pond heard?

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Posted on Mon Jan 14, 2013 20:33:06
This has been mentioned a few times, but now there's talk of a Scottish football reform where they combined the first two leagues to make the first division consist of 18 teams (i think).

But ya, nothing new. If it were up to me, i'd invite Rangers and neglect Celtic just to laugh at them.

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Posted on Mon Jan 14, 2013 20:47:04
The Scottish league is nothing special and a rather boring one to be honest.
A possible merge into the BPL would never happen, not when "alot" of Scottish want to be independent and remove their country from the UK.

Plus on the other hand look at rangers, complete laugh. Celtic would do well here but rangers not a chance, and when I say Celtic would do well IE: make the Top 8, wouldn't get near the top 4.

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Posted on Mon Jan 14, 2013 21:38:01
Not good enough. Shove them in League Two, if they're good enough for the BPL then they should get promoted.

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Posted on Tue Jan 15, 2013 04:07:27
Well, thanks for the info...

I also think Celtic could finish in the top half at the moment... Rangers, probably not with their current players, but mismanagement will do that to a team I guess?

I think League Two would be very low, at least for Celtic. I know they could beat QPR, Reading, and Aston Villa, lol, so that should put them above relegation... Rangers? I don't know how they would do.





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Posted on Tue Jan 15, 2013 22:17:15
they'd have to drop down to lower leagues, maybe league 1 or so, can't have more than 20 teams in the premiership really

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Posted on Wed Jan 16, 2013 20:52:25
im a rangers fan and preferably id rather go to conference and work up and there is more money in the conference league that the spl

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Posted on Thu Jan 17, 2013 18:18:09
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im a rangers fan and preferably id rather go to conference and work up and there is more money in the conference league that the spl


You do realise your not even in the SPL?



Never ask an English person about Scottish football, they have a biased view towards any football league or team, there own league in their words is "the best league in the world" and these days its "FIFA love Spain" which is the new excuse for not one person from "the best league in the world" making it into the FIFA XI.

Every English person who likes football but is too cocky (most of them) will always claim their league is too good for anyone yet the league that is apparently a joke has only one less team in the CL last 16 than them even though BPL get about 4 teams in the group stage. The stupid thing about their cockiness is the fact that their leagues top players are foreign and only in that league because of money which is why they are against any other team joining their league or creating Euro/Atlantic leagues which would cut into their earnings

If you want a fair opinion speak to someone who is neither for or against Scottish or English football but to answer your question, no the English league is all about money and greed so no Scottish team will ever be allowed to join unless that starts to change and they need to boost the competition in order to boost income, funny thing is English football is on the way down while Scottish football is on the rise

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Posted on Thu Jan 17, 2013 19:40:42
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im a rangers fan and preferably id rather go to conference and work up and there is more money in the conference league that the spl


You do realise your not even in the SPL?



Never ask an English person about Scottish football, they have a biased view towards any football league or team, there own league in their words is "the best league in the world" and these days its "FIFA love Spain" which is the new excuse for not one person from "the best league in the world" making it into the FIFA XI.

Every English person who likes football but is too cocky (most of them) will always claim their league is too good for anyone yet the league that is apparently a joke has only one less team in the CL last 16 than them even though BPL get about 4 teams in the group stage. The stupid thing about their cockiness is the fact that their leagues top players are foreign and only in that league because of money which is why they are against any other team joining their league or creating Euro/Atlantic leagues which would cut into their earnings

If you want a fair opinion speak to someone who is neither for or against Scottish or English football but to answer your question, no the English league is all about money and greed so no Scottish team will ever be allowed to join unless that starts to change and they need to boost the competition in order to boost income, funny thing is English football is on the way down while Scottish football is on the rise


So in your opinion, do you think Celtic and Rangers could stay above relegation in the BPL as they currently are comprised? I am not familiar with many of the players on either side. I did see Celtic beat Barca back in July, but haven't seen Rangers play at all since their dissolution and religation.

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Posted on Sat Jan 19, 2013 03:24:29
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im a rangers fan and preferably id rather go to conference and work up and there is more money in the conference league that the spl


You do realise your not even in the SPL?



Never ask an English person about Scottish football, they have a biased view towards any football league or team, there own league in their words is "the best league in the world" and these days its "FIFA love Spain" which is the new excuse for not one person from "the best league in the world" making it into the FIFA XI.

Every English person who likes football but is too cocky (most of them) will always claim their league is too good for anyone yet the league that is apparently a joke has only one less team in the CL last 16 than them even though BPL get about 4 teams in the group stage. The stupid thing about their cockiness is the fact that their leagues top players are foreign and only in that league because of money which is why they are against any other team joining their league or creating Euro/Atlantic leagues which would cut into their earnings

If you want a fair opinion speak to someone who is neither for or against Scottish or English football but to answer your question, no the English league is all about money and greed so no Scottish team will ever be allowed to join unless that starts to change and they need to boost the competition in order to boost income, funny thing is English football is on the way down while Scottish football is on the rise


So in your opinion, do you think Celtic and Rangers could stay above relegation in the BPL as they currently are comprised? I am not familiar with many of the players on either side. I did see Celtic beat Barca back in July, but haven't seen Rangers play at all since their dissolution and religation.


That game against Barca wasnt in July,that was only about in November, it was Inter Milan we played in July when Wanyama made them look shit and Commons scored an amazing goal but then Inter grabbed a goal on the 90th minute to draw 1-1.
As for staying up while playing the BPL, in the current situation, Celtic? Yes, Rangers? No
If both teams were being paid the same as the BPL teams? Yes, both teams could easily stay up and start to build a team that can work their way up the table but I think Celtic could probably make it into the top half with ease right now, not sure about going much further without more money.

Its a lack of interest and a bit of cockiness that convinces alot of people neither team could do well in England, Rangers are in a pretty shit situation right now but Celtics team is young and always improving, alot of teams in England trying to sign players from Celtic plus Celtic have one of the top youth teams in Europe who play the rest of the best youth teams in the Next Gen Series.

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Posted on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:50:08
You talk a lot of sense mate
With the money they get in England I think Celtic could finish top 8
Maybe better once settled and start to build a team

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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:59:03
Not going to happen. UEFA have said so.

As for this whole "a lot of teams in England trying to sign players from Celtic", yes but a lot of those teams are championship teams not Premiership teams.

If anything, Celtic takes Premiership rejects and makes then look world class in a poor Scottish league.

Yes there is occasionally a very good player unearthed in Scotland, but on the whole, most players are average who would be nothing more then squad players in the mid to lower Premier league teams. So to talk about Celtic finishing top 8 is laughable. When you have Samaras who failed at a poor Man City looking good, then you know you have a problem!

The fact Gary Hooper is linked with clubs such as Norwich says it all. The Jelevics and Wanyama's are the rarities. Even there they are not world class, mearly good players.

And as for the money, i think you are wildly optimistic to think this will help. The money comes from being in the Champions League. so you are talking about them breaking into the top 4 in the league! its not going to happen.
If anything the lack of European football will cost Celtic financially! Unless they can get a rich owner, they will struggle in the English leagues.



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Posted on Sat Jan 26, 2013 00:44:39
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Not going to happen. UEFA have said so.

As for this whole "a lot of teams in England trying to sign players from Celtic", yes but a lot of those teams are championship teams not Premiership teams.

If anything, Celtic takes Premiership rejects and makes then look world class in a poor Scottish league.

Yes there is occasionally a very good player unearthed in Scotland, but on the whole, most players are average who would be nothing more then squad players in the mid to lower Premier league teams. So to talk about Celtic finishing top 8 is laughable. When you have Samaras who failed at a poor Man City looking good, then you know you have a problem!

The fact Gary Hooper is linked with clubs such as Norwich says it all. The Jelevics and Wanyama's are the rarities. Even there they are not world class, mearly good players.

And as for the money, i think you are wildly optimistic to think this will help. The money comes from being in the Champions League. so you are talking about them breaking into the top 4 in the league! its not going to happen.
If anything the lack of European football will cost Celtic financially! Unless they can get a rich owner, they will struggle in the English leagues.



The bulk of the money isn't generated from the ECL, I'm sure I heard not long ago that the team relegated from last place in the EPL gets more cash reward than the SPL winners?

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Posted on Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:45:34
In 2011 Man U made 53m from TV and prize money in 2011 when they lost the final to Barca. Over half of that was in TV Revenue.

Prize money for Champions League
Playoffs: 2,100,000
Base fee for group stage: 8,600,000
Group match victory: 1,000,000
Group match draw: 500,000
Round of 16: 3,500,000
Quarter-finals: 3,900,000
Semi-finals: 4,900,000
Losing finalist: 6,500,000
Winning the Final: 10,500,000

So this season alone, Celtic would have made 17,000,000 so far in the champions league.
Hell just getting to the group stage which celtic do quite a bit, will generate it 10m euros a year. Imagine losing that, the TV revenue that goes with it, Sponsership money lost by not being in Europe..........

The only real benefit from joining the EPL for Celtic would be increased television revenue, but i doubt that will cover what it losses out on by not being in Europe.


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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 09:57:40
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Not going to happen. UEFA have said so.

As for this whole "a lot of teams in England trying to sign players from Celtic", yes but a lot of those teams are championship teams not Premiership teams.

If anything, Celtic takes Premiership rejects and makes then look world class in a poor Scottish league.

Yes there is occasionally a very good player unearthed in Scotland, but on the whole, most players are average who would be nothing more then squad players in the mid to lower Premier league teams. So to talk about Celtic finishing top 8 is laughable. When you have Samaras who failed at a poor Man City looking good, then you know you have a problem!

The fact Gary Hooper is linked with clubs such as Norwich says it all. The Jelevics and Wanyama's are the rarities. Even there they are not world class, mearly good players.

And as for the money, i think you are wildly optimistic to think this will help. The money comes from being in the Champions League. so you are talking about them breaking into the top 4 in the league! its not going to happen.
If anything the lack of European football will cost Celtic financially! Unless they can get a rich owner, they will struggle in the English leagues.



You have no idea what your talking about its just another English biased opinion, Tottenham are looking at Hooper and were interested in Forrest, Man Utd want Wanyama, Chelsea stole Islam Feruz, Man City tried to sign Ambrose before us but still no decent English team wants our players?
So your opinion of Samaras being a "premiership reject" means hes shit? He was played out of posistion for Man City, he plays on the left wing and runs rings round most teams in Europe.

We have one of the best youth teams in Europe (recognized by everyone outside England) so as for the occasional player to come out of Scotland, its more bullshit coming from you.
Is Forster another Premiership reject who just looks good in the SPL? He along with Wanyama and Ambrose were in Champions League team of the week for the games against Barca, even stopped Barca getting one player in it.

In England players like David Beckham are considered a good player but not someone who plays in the SPL? Its nothing but a biased opinion, Charlie Mulgrew can match or top Beckhams free kicks and corners but he isn't over rated because hes Scottish and not English.
Hooper and Forster are both English but even they are under rated just because they play in the SPL, apparently its not a good enough league for anyone from it to get a game for England but really its just a way of trying to force your top players back home because you dont like us having anyone who you actually think is a good player.

English football is over rated and overflowing with money, yes it will bring good players, but will it really help your national team to refuse people a chance because their club team or just over paying foreign players to take the places of your youth in your countrys club teams? No, money and cockiness will be English footballs downfall.

Edit: Just to add, Wanyama "mearly good" this alone shows you aren't interested in giving him a fair chance, for a player to make Inter Milan look shit and put in a team of the week performance against Barcelona in the Champions League he must be more than good, which is why Man Utd and Bayern Munich want him.

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:08:55
And your view of scottish football isnt biased?

IF Celtic are so great, their youth team so brilliant, then why the hell is scottish football so crap?
Yes England are not the best team in the world, but we are a hell of a lot better then Scotland.

And for these fantastic players who played brilliantly against the likes of Barcelona and Inter Milan. What happens week in week out against the other scottish teams? Or do they simply not try in the league?

You make the Celtic side sound as if its one of the best in Europe with world class players throughout the squad who can compete with the likes of Man U, Barca, Real Madrid week in, week out.

Fact is they cannot.
Here is your recent record in the Champions League
2004 - Champions League 1st Round/UEFA Cup Quarter-Final
2005 - Champions League 1st Round
2006 - Champions League 2nd Qualifying Round
2007 - Champions League 2nd Round
2008 - Champions League 2nd Round
2009 - Champions League 1st Round
2010 - Champions League Play-Off/Europa League 2nd Round
2011 - Champions League 3rd Qualifying Round/Europa League 1st Round
2012 - Europa League 2nd Round
2013 - Champions League 2nd Round

Tell me, for such a brilliant side, how come you have struggled so bad! Surely if your players make Milan look shit, can deal with Barca, you would at least make the Quarters!




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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 13:32:25
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but will it really help your national team to refuse people a chance because their club team or just over paying foreign players to take the places of your youth in your countrys club teams? No, money and cockiness will be English footballs downfall.


Because the Scotland national team is ever so brilliant >.<

Besides being linked with is paper talk, signing for teams is another story.



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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 14:02:10
Its funny how alex just ignored the conversation in an attempt to bring down Scottish football instead of facing the facts, I never said anything about Scottish national team, yes we have good players but yes they are piss poor for the national team but we dont claim we're going to win every cup we enter and embarrass ourselfs.

Cynic we've done better than half the English teams in the Champions league so far, I have never said we are full of fantastic players all I said was English teams want a good few of ours players your the one attempting to bring us down to make your teams sound better as usual, we clearly do have one of the best youth teams in Europe, if you cant accept that your in denial.

I didnt say we can compete with them week in week out if you actually paid attention you'd see I said Celtic could finish in the top half of the EPL then said not sure about going much further without more cash so you've just embarrassed yourself, Ronaldinho was once considered the best player in the world and he wasnt at his best every week he was at his best in the important games (exactly what we've done) feel free to slag him off since not being at your best every week makes you shit.

You just like the majority of people who claim EPL is best in the world are in denial, you avoid parts of conversations and go straight for the part you think you can attempt to bring down someone else with your reply.

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 14:35:01
Where did i claim the EPL was the best league in the world? Please tell me that.

Now as for the Scottish national team. Surely if Celtic had such a fabulous youth team, you should be producing more world class players then you are currently. And as for embarrassing ourselves. Well yes England may qualify for finals and embarrass themselves there but is that really worse then embarrassing yourselves trying to qualify for the finals like Scotland do?

And as for doing better then half the English teams in the champions league that only seems to have applied to this season. What about past seasons? Talk to me when you guys actually win or get to finals!
The fact you only have one team who are entered into the competition and even then at a the play off stage is a result of the constant failure of Scottish teams in Europe. So when a team finally does well you seem to get a hard on and claim you are doing better then English teams as a result!

I still maintain Celtic would struggle to finish in the top half of the EPL. Yes there might be seasons when you do, but then again a lot of the teams do that. Other then the big 7 teams (Liv, Man U, Man C, Everton, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal) every other team is fighting for those mid table positions with maybe one or 2 teams that will over achieve like Newcastle last season and West Brom are doing this season.

Celtic would be in that group. There will be times when they do well, most seasons they will be anywhere between 8 and 14th and some seasons they will flirt maybe even get relegated.

You thinking Celtic are way ahead of the likes of Swansea, Newcastle, Stoke, West Ham etc shows how little you actually know about the EPL. That is at best the level Celtic would find itself.
So unless you get a sugar daddy thinking you are a top half team in the premiership is wishful thinking.


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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 15:24:51
I ignored most of the conversation as most is crap and aboout SPL and zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Almost as boring as the spl itself

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 20:31:10
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Where did i claim the EPL was the best league in the world? Please tell me that.

Now as for the Scottish national team. Surely if Celtic had such a fabulous youth team, you should be producing more world class players then you are currently. And as for embarrassing ourselves. Well yes England may qualify for finals and embarrass themselves there but is that really worse then embarrassing yourselves trying to qualify for the finals like Scotland do?

And as for doing better then half the English teams in the champions league that only seems to have applied to this season. What about past seasons? Talk to me when you guys actually win or get to finals!
The fact you only have one team who are entered into the competition and even then at a the play off stage is a result of the constant failure of Scottish teams in Europe. So when a team finally does well you seem to get a hard on and claim you are doing better then English teams as a result!

I still maintain Celtic would struggle to finish in the top half of the EPL. Yes there might be seasons when you do, but then again a lot of the teams do that. Other then the big 7 teams (Liv, Man U, Man C, Everton, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal) every other team is fighting for those mid table positions with maybe one or 2 teams that will over achieve like Newcastle last season and West Brom are doing this season.

Celtic would be in that group. There will be times when they do well, most seasons they will be anywhere between 8 and 14th and some seasons they will flirt maybe even get relegated.

You thinking Celtic are way ahead of the likes of Swansea, Newcastle, Stoke, West Ham etc shows how little you actually know about the EPL. That is at best the level Celtic would find itself.
So unless you get a sugar daddy thinking you are a top half team in the premiership is wishful thinking.


"Where did i claim the EPL was the best league in the world? Please tell me that." For a start I didnt say you personally said it but you cant even deny that most of the people involved with your countries football and most of the fans are convinced it is then they just couldnt accept it when La Liga took all 11 places in FIFA XI.
You over exaggarate or twist almost everything in attempt to make someone sound stupid when really its just you who cant accept reality, yes we do have one of the top youth teams, yes Scotland do make an arse of it most of the time they play for the national team but I'd rather not qualify and accept it than claim we're going to win the Euro's or World Cup every two years and completely embarrass the majority of the country who believe you, English people are too quick to consider us British when we can offer them something (like goal medals at olympics).
Scotlands youth team is where they are at their best at the moment through alot of our youth team, it is the youth your talking about so why not just look at them rather than the first team? Its where you'll obviously get your answers...

Why dont you explain to me when an English team reached or won a final with the money we have? They never have, when we did take time to put a decent team together we were told we couldnt beat Liverpool or Blackburn, what happened? We went straight through to the final embarrasing both and only being beat by Jose Mourhino's Porto team (in extra time), the same team who then went on to win the Champions League a year later.

Top half is the top 10, so if you think we would finish behind those 7 we're still clearly inthe top half, if you didnt know that your focusing more on whats wrong with Celtic or Scottish football than your own opinion of how you think we'd do. Yes we would finish behind them first season, but before long Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City are the only teams really guaranteed to top us if we have a bit of money to put into our squad.
You really do have no idea what your talking about, Celtic are by far better than Swansea and Stoke, maybe not Newcastle lately but Newcastle have been at the top of English football before, how long did it last?
Celtic with a bit of cash would easily finish top half work their way towards top 7 then top 5, if you cant accept that your opinion is based on nothing but how good you seem to think England is and how shit you think we are when its just a biased opinion that you have failed to look past.

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 20:43:27
Hmm, I cba making a huge point about it, but I'd put Swansea ahead of Celtic, not Stoke though.

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 20:45:17
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I ignored most of the conversation as most is crap and aboout SPL and zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Almost as boring as the spl itself

Just slip this in here

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You just ignored the conversation because you have now interest in it as you dont get to prove anyone wrong, your here for the wind up and its not happening for you

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 20:48:35
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Hmm, I cba making a huge point about it, but I'd put Swansea ahead of Celtic, not Stoke though.


Fair enough thats your opinion but I personally think we are better, I do believe they are getting there though because they can offer more in wages attracting more players.

Your the first person to give your opinion and leave it at that

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Posted on Thu Jan 31, 2013 02:40:20
For as long as I can remember there has been talk of this. It will never happen. Ever. /thread.

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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 00:51:24
Rangers are in like the Scottish league 3 so why would they come to the premier league?

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Posted on Tue May 07, 2013 00:53:55
and what do you think the english fans will do when all the provo lovers start their sing song....not worth it..policing costs..violence..explosions..try the paddy leagues....

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Posted on Tue May 07, 2013 23:46:16
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Where did i claim the EPL was the best league in the world? Please tell me that.

Now as for the Scottish national team. Surely if Celtic had such a fabulous youth team, you should be producing more world class players then you are currently. And as for embarrassing ourselves. Well yes England may qualify for finals and embarrass themselves there but is that really worse then embarrassing yourselves trying to qualify for the finals like Scotland do?

And as for doing better then half the English teams in the champions league that only seems to have applied to this season. What about past seasons? Talk to me when you guys actually win or get to finals!
The fact you only have one team who are entered into the competition and even then at a the play off stage is a result of the constant failure of Scottish teams in Europe. So when a team finally does well you seem to get a hard on and claim you are doing better then English teams as a result!

I still maintain Celtic would struggle to finish in the top half of the EPL. Yes there might be seasons when you do, but then again a lot of the teams do that. Other then the big 7 teams (Liv, Man U, Man C, Everton, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal) every other team is fighting for those mid table positions with maybe one or 2 teams that will over achieve like Newcastle last season and West Brom are doing this season.

Celtic would be in that group. There will be times when they do well, most seasons they will be anywhere between 8 and 14th and some seasons they will flirt maybe even get relegated.

You thinking Celtic are way ahead of the likes of Swansea, Newcastle, Stoke, West Ham etc shows how little you actually know about the EPL. That is at best the level Celtic would find itself.
So unless you get a sugar daddy thinking you are a top half team in the premiership is wishful thinking.


rangers youth team is better than celtics tho probably as most of youth team have had first team experience this season. if you look at rangers at start of season coming into the league with 7 professional players they have built semi decent squad in a little time by 2020 rangers will have won a european cup the club is massive and see no doubt we will be back winning top flight in no time and taking on europe and defeating it

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Posted on Tue May 07, 2013 23:54:59
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By _Cynic_ [206537]
Where did i claim the EPL was the best league in the world? Please tell me that.

Now as for the Scottish national team. Surely if Celtic had such a fabulous youth team, you should be producing more world class players then you are currently. And as for embarrassing ourselves. Well yes England may qualify for finals and embarrass themselves there but is that really worse then embarrassing yourselves trying to qualify for the finals like Scotland do?

And as for doing better then half the English teams in the champions league that only seems to have applied to this season. What about past seasons? Talk to me when you guys actually win or get to finals!
The fact you only have one team who are entered into the competition and even then at a the play off stage is a result of the constant failure of Scottish teams in Europe. So when a team finally does well you seem to get a hard on and claim you are doing better then English teams as a result!

I still maintain Celtic would struggle to finish in the top half of the EPL. Yes there might be seasons when you do, but then again a lot of the teams do that. Other then the big 7 teams (Liv, Man U, Man C, Everton, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal) every other team is fighting for those mid table positions with maybe one or 2 teams that will over achieve like Newcastle last season and West Brom are doing this season.

Celtic would be in that group. There will be times when they do well, most seasons they will be anywhere between 8 and 14th and some seasons they will flirt maybe even get relegated.

You thinking Celtic are way ahead of the likes of Swansea, Newcastle, Stoke, West Ham etc shows how little you actually know about the EPL. That is at best the level Celtic would find itself.
So unless you get a sugar daddy thinking you are a top half team in the premiership is wishful thinking.


rangers youth team is better than celtics tho probably as most of youth team have had first team experience this season. if you look at rangers at start of season coming into the league with 7 professional players they have built semi decent squad in a little time by 2020 rangers will have won a european cup the club is massive and see no doubt we will be back winning top flight in no time and taking on europe and defeating it


So your team gets WORSE and this means you'll be conquering Europe by 2020? Yeah... we'll see..


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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 07:15:39
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By _Cynic_ [206537]
Where did i claim the EPL was the best league in the world? Please tell me that.

Now as for the Scottish national team. Surely if Celtic had such a fabulous youth team, you should be producing more world class players then you are currently. And as for embarrassing ourselves. Well yes England may qualify for finals and embarrass themselves there but is that really worse then embarrassing yourselves trying to qualify for the finals like Scotland do?

And as for doing better then half the English teams in the champions league that only seems to have applied to this season. What about past seasons? Talk to me when you guys actually win or get to finals!
The fact you only have one team who are entered into the competition and even then at a the play off stage is a result of the constant failure of Scottish teams in Europe. So when a team finally does well you seem to get a hard on and claim you are doing better then English teams as a result!

I still maintain Celtic would struggle to finish in the top half of the EPL. Yes there might be seasons when you do, but then again a lot of the teams do that. Other then the big 7 teams (Liv, Man U, Man C, Everton, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal) every other team is fighting for those mid table positions with maybe one or 2 teams that will over achieve like Newcastle last season and West Brom are doing this season.

Celtic would be in that group. There will be times when they do well, most seasons they will be anywhere between 8 and 14th and some seasons they will flirt maybe even get relegated.

You thinking Celtic are way ahead of the likes of Swansea, Newcastle, Stoke, West Ham etc shows how little you actually know about the EPL. That is at best the level Celtic would find itself.
So unless you get a sugar daddy thinking you are a top half team in the premiership is wishful thinking.


rangers youth team is better than celtics tho probably as most of youth team have had first team experience this season. if you look at rangers at start of season coming into the league with 7 professional players they have built semi decent squad in a little time by 2020 rangers will have won a european cup the club is massive and see no doubt we will be back winning top flight in no time and taking on europe and defeating it


Next you will be claiming they will also win the world cup by 2022! Seriously it doesnt matter how good your youth teams are if they players do not take the step up to the full level. Just look at the Scottish national team for proof of that.


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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 16:01:48
Apart from the top 5 in the epl the rest are average sides
They get better players in because they have more cash which is fair enough
Just because they pay over the odds for players like Danny graham and phil jones
Doesn't make them better
Celtic got where they did this year on a tight budget
We would be a match for any team outside the top 5

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