Thread created on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:07:23 Last replied to on Tue Jun 18, 2013 21:44:12
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Mashuqur Profile for ID: 215189 is a f****** scammer. He has my 45m. MUG HIM!
If you hospitalize him you will get up to 5% your money back when shopping at my bazaar (when I'm back on my feet once again).
By Alex- [435186]
On here it's mainly football and well football .
Why would I call a sport that is my county's most popular spot something else to better suit someone from another country's mood? I don't expect you to ever make reference to whether or not you mean football/soccer/NFL. I seriously do not get why people get their panties so uptight about the fact America does indeed have a game called "football" and that we refer to it as "football" when talking. I mean really, it should not be the cause of so much angst for you blokes.
But this is a terrible list anyways because it doesn't include hockey.... or to save you another temper tantrum, I'll specifically say ICE hockey.
By Alex- [435186]
On here it's mainly football and well football .
Why would I call a sport that is my county's most popular spot something else to better suit someone from another country's mood? I don't expect you to ever make reference to whether or not you mean football/soccer/NFL. I seriously do not get why people get their panties so uptight about the fact America does indeed have a game called "football" and that we refer to it as "football" when talking. I mean really, it should not be the cause of so much angst for you blokes.
But this is a terrible list anyways because it doesn't include hockey.... or to save you another temper tantrum, I'll specifically say ICE hockey.
It's just bad English spelling. Defence is not spelled defense. Centre is not spelled center. Colour is not spelled color. Football is not spelled soccer.
You should've learned all of this in primary school.
Soccer sounds incredibly dumb. You don't want to sound dumb! So say football next time and thereafter. I'd want to kick a ball at anyone that says soccer. At their head.
Well sometimes you get what you ask for, as "soccer" is a word coined by the English, being used as far back as the mid-late 19th century
Either way, it's overall pretty lame to get panties twisted over what two different sports are called and/or referred to by their own country. Never really understood the point of that... well... I guess with all the lack of scoring, clock running while players chase the ball out of bounds and set up for a kick and general lameness and flopping in soccer, one has to come up with something stupid to think about to pass the time.
By bosox [278767]
Well sometimes you get what you ask for, as "soccer" is a word coined by the English, being used as far back as the mid-late 19th century
70 million Brits disagree with that one guy.
Either way, it's overall pretty lame to get panties twisted over what two different sports are called and/or referred to by their own country.
I'm just correcting spelling mistakes.
Never really understood the point of that... well... I guess with all the lack of scoring, clock running while players chase the ball out of bounds and set up for a kick and general lameness and flopping in soccer, one has to come up with something stupid to think about to pass the time.
You should watch English football then. Not just one match or a few matches: watch entire seasons; pick a team, bet on them to create sensations of allegiance and then tell me you don't find football entertaining!
By the way, that's what I plan on doing for American football.
It's not that I don't find it entertaining, there are definitely aspects I like about it, and I am not just a blind hater to the sport, like some Americans are to it and like some others are to US football. Yes, I don't watch it nearly as much as you may, but I do catch the occasional EPL game shown on my local sports station, I pay attention to the World Cups, and I loosely pay attention to the US Soccer teams. I at least try to watch some big marquee match ups... but it just does not appeal to me. It's not about the fact the matches take a trained eye, because I enjoy baseball which is both sometimes low scoring and takes some time to learn the subtle intricacies. I absolutely love the NHL/hockey, and that game is very closely related to soccer and is pretty low scoring. I wont turn this thread into yet another "football vs football" debate, because the two sports are 100% entirely not related in any way in terms of actual gameplay, and the ONLY thing they have in common at all is the name in which the fans refer to it as. Other than that, comparing to two or using one in an argument to back up/talk down about the other sport is... stupid, and is about as relevant as comparing either of them to tennis.
The NHL to football (yours, not mine) is a MUCH closer comparison of two sports.
If I were to make my own personal list of grievances against your football, they would be as follows, and in no particular order:
1) The apparent preference to pass the ball around endlessly and try to out-trick/maneuver defenders, or make extremely risky and long passes rather than put shots on goal when it's beyond clear they will result in turning the ball over.
2) The flopping. Say what you want, it's heavily in the sport. It's in the NBA and I don't like the NBA for this reason.
3) The fans. They probably turn more Americans off to the sport than the sport itself does. Examples: Hissy fits over the NFL being "football," the proclamation that whoever doesn't like it doesn't understand it, saying that it is the only sport that requires skills and intelligence, etc.
4) The seemingly randomness of many/all of the refs decisions involving cards and extra time.
5) The fact that the clock runs even when the ball is out of play, or there is otherwise no actual game taking place... despite the fact the refs give extra time at the end, the totals really don't ever seem to match how much time is actually lost.
By bosox [278767]
It's not that I don't find it entertaining, there are definitely aspects I like about it, and I am not just a blind hater to the sport, like some Americans are to it and like some others are to US football. Yes, I don't watch it nearly as much as you may, but I do catch the occasional EPL game shown on my local sports station, I pay attention to the World Cups, and I loosely pay attention to the US Soccer teams. I at least try to watch some big marquee match ups... but it just does not appeal to me. It's not about the fact the matches take a trained eye, because I enjoy baseball which is both sometimes low scoring and takes some time to learn the subtle intricacies. I absolutely love the NHL/hockey, and that game is very closely related to soccer and is pretty low scoring. I wont turn this thread into yet another "football vs football" debate, because the two sports are 100% entirely not related in any way in terms of actual gameplay, and the ONLY thing they have in common at all is the name in which the fans refer to it as. Other than that, comparing to two or using one in an argument to back up/talk down about the other sport is... stupid, and is about as relevant as comparing either of them to tennis.
The NHL to football (yours, not mine) is a MUCH closer comparison of two sports.
If I were to make my own personal list of grievances against your football, they would be as follows, and in no particular order:
1) The apparent preference to pass the ball around endlessly and try to out-trick/maneuver defenders, or make extremely risky and long passes rather than put shots on goal when it's beyond clear they will result in turning the ball over.
2) The flopping. Say what you want, it's heavily in the sport. It's in the NBA and I don't like the NBA for this reason.
3) The fans. They probably turn more Americans off to the sport than the sport itself does. Examples: Hissy fits over the NFL being "football," the proclamation that whoever doesn't like it doesn't understand it, saying that it is the only sport that requires skills and intelligence, etc.
4) The seemingly randomness of many/all of the refs decisions involving cards and extra time.
5) The fact that the clock runs even when the ball is out of play, or there is otherwise no actual game taking place... despite the fact the refs give extra time at the end, the totals really don't ever seem to match how much time is actually lost.
1) I agree with you that it does get boring when a team passes forever like spain. Saying that however the skill level involved is very high and very underapreciated. Part of the elegance of football is when a team can fluidly dominate a team without them touching the ball. Whats wrong with "tricks"? In Brazil fliar is what defines the sport to them, its about enjoying the game and no making it monotonous.
2)Yes i agree, kills me everytime i see it. Makes them all look like f**king pussies.
3) Thats very general and vague, each sport is going to have idiots.
4)Depends on the leagues mandate at the time. The refs are generally good in the top leagues but part of the inconsistancy is having 1 referee watch the entire game. There needs to be another ref on the pitch imo.
5)Thats tradition. Think of baseball not using a computer/camera for strikes and balls.
First off, baseball doesn't use computers/cameras for strikes perhaps you worded that part wrong. But I get that these things are part of the tradition, and that tricks and otherwise fancy footwork and ball movement is nice to see, and if it's executed well by the top teams in the leagues then of course it looks great. I've watched pretty closely the past three World Cups and I do enjoy it, and I was actually truly disappointed over soccer/football results for the first time in my life the last men's World Cup when the US was eliminated and when the women lost the World Cup to Japan. But if I'm watching a live match/game, I would firstly prefer my team to win, and honestly sometimes I'm really not sure if the utmost goal for all teams if to win or to try and look good doing it. That's really the biggest problem for me, because I said I can absolutely appreciate subtleties, but I really can't seem to get past that.
But about the fans, obviously every sport has it's share of obnoxious fans (I'm probably considered one ) but I don't think I've ever had a discussion about soccer/football with a fan that didn't involve "the sport is too complex for you" , "it's just too beautiful for you" , "soccer/football requires skill" and so on. Just scroll around these forums and every pro-soccer/football person will be saying most/all other sports require no skill or far less skill than soccer, and seemingly cannot appreciate the fact that each sport is unique in it's own way, and that soccer is just God's gift to man. I don't know, it just puts me off anyways
By bosox [278767]
First off, baseball doesn't use computers/cameras for strikes perhaps you worded that part wrong.
I know that, that was my point. Baseball still uses human eyesight to judge which is tradition like not stopping the clock.
Regarding the last part i agree with you. I watch Football/Soccer, NBA,NHl etc... Sometimes i think though its just to piss you off because your American.
I appreciate all sports and they require a high level of skill. In North America I dont think its understood how passionate football can be to some in the rest of the world. Celtic/Rangers is a clasic example which crosses many religious boundries and adds another dimension. Im not saying fans in North American are less passionate but it seems to have less importance in society (partly because there are so many other sports) It is not as ingrained in other societies where we may see it as a very enjoyable hobby/entertainment. When some people say its religious they mean it and will defend it as such.
Well, interestingly enough, I have done some research with my school into the impact of sports on societies, and ironically I studied a lot about YOUR football and the impact it had on the English Empire and possibly why it's so popular today I wouldn't say sports in America are less important in society though, it's just different. More people here could tell you the starting lineup of an obscure, dismal sports team from another state than could probably name both of their state's senators I'll say that your typical soccer/football fan would probably be much more likely to get physical about their team than any random American, I think it goes a lot more beyond just a very fun hobby for a lot of Americans. Well.... unless you live in California, then you'll probab;ly get shot in the parking lot and/or stabbed in the concourse of most sports stadiums there
IMO Gridiron is a snooza, Some grouse hits though. But i cant really stand it. My favourite sports would be AFL (Australian footbal league), NBA and MMA. I dont enjoy most sports though.
So let me get this straight... you don't like the NFL because it's a "snooza" yet you like the NBA? There is more flopping in the NBA than even soccer I think, and it seems like each team gets 100 timeouts to use because the last 3 minutes of a close game will literally take 35 minutes. And even during the entirety of the game, the play is constantly being stopped. Very very rarely do you ever see a few minutes at a time where the action is flowing. Now granted, the NFL is not running constantly but it's different: In the NBA, the game is stopped due to fouls, whereas the NFL has two separate clocks that almost always has one running, if not both, so there is technically strategy and game plan behind the "game clock' stoppages because the "play clock" will run as well
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perhaps you worded that part wrong. But I get that these things are part of the tradition, and that tricks and otherwise fancy footwork and ball movement is nice to see, and if it's executed well by the top teams in the leagues then of course it looks great. I've watched pretty closely the past three World Cups and I do enjoy it, and I was actually truly disappointed over soccer/football results for the first time in my life the last men's World Cup when the US was eliminated and when the women lost the World Cup to Japan. But if I'm watching a live match/game, I would firstly prefer my team to win, and honestly sometimes I'm really not sure if the utmost goal for all teams if to win or to try and look good doing it. That's really the biggest problem for me, because I said I can absolutely appreciate subtleties, but I really can't seem to get past that. 
) but I don't think I've ever had a discussion about soccer/football with a fan that didn't involve "the sport is too complex for you" , "it's just too beautiful for you" , "soccer/football requires skill" and so on. Just scroll around these forums and every pro-soccer/football person will be saying most/all other sports require no skill or far less skill than soccer, and seemingly cannot appreciate the fact that each sport is unique in it's own way, and that soccer is just God's gift to man. I don't know, it just puts me off anyways![Tomas [676400]](http://awardimages.torn.com/676400-69608-large.png "Tomas [676400]")
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