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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 02:15:50
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get ready for the link crow
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 02:24:04
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Congratulations to...
the 49ers for clinching a weeks rest,
Frank Gore for beating the team rushing td record (51 now),
Crabtree for an excellent performance thanks to a Kaepernick performance from the pocket.
Stay in the pocket Kaepy!
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 03:58:19
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i was actually kind of sorta enjoying this game, until that f**king pussy Punter had to go and be a god damn bitch. Had to pull hair and the mask just to tackle the guy when they are up by 2 scores f**king prick.
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 04:24:29
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well, congrats on the first round knock-out skin fans. No way yall will beat Seattle.
7 your in heaven....8 your not that great.
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 04:38:19
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Well, I wonder now how much more you guys will defend Romo. Season on the line, after putting up good stats all year, and he comes out and throws for 218 YD, 2 TD, 3 INT for a 55 rating. Including having the ball back with 3+ mins down by a field goal and puking all over himself, throwing a terrible pick. Same old romo that he's always been, just a guy who cannot play when the games matter. It's really cut and dry at this point. Not a top 5 QB, and certainly not someone I'd want to lead my team through a playoff drive. He's been handed good teams, great teams, great offensive talent, good defensive talent at times, and if you look at all of his important games, they're all the same.
There's really no defending romo anymore. A good QB wins that game in that spot.
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 05:20:29
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really? so your saying having pressure down the MIDDLE of the line and throwing a pick is indefensible? (the last pick)
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 06:19:25
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Eventually you will get tired of your QB throwing multiple picks and/or fumbling way your season every year. Yes, throwing a bad pick with minutes left with the season on the line and a playoff ticket within reach is indefensible. Every QB gets pressure, all nfl teams do now is pass the ball, so that's primarily what defenses play for: pocket pressure.
It'd be one thing if romo had previous history to fall back on, like leading a team to a Super Bowl. But the fact that its ALWAYS him under center when your season ends in disappointment should really say something. It is not always everyone else's fault. You can't always only blame the d, the refs, the line, injuries, coaching, yet continue to overlook Romo's shortcomings.
I don't know what's more predictable; romo tossing multiple picks in a big game, or you blindly defending him as you lose yet another game/season.
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 06:25:45
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Or I guess what amazes me is that Brady can have 300 YD 1 TD 0 INT with a 90+ rating in his 5th Super Bowl but lose, and you're ready at any moment to tell me how overrated he is and pick him apart...:yet every time romo posts a 50 or lower rating, tosses a bunch of picks and gets eliminated from contention in the regular season, you see nothing wrong with it. I guess you just subconsciously hold romo to a very, very low standard.
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 19:08:34
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No real big surprises with the Black Monday firings, now for the hirings, they might get interesting
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 21:46:41
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The only real surprise is the Jets deciding to keep Ryan  Well, I guess that's just the Jets for you.
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Posted on Mon Dec 31, 2012 21:59:38
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Yeah  He's not doing them any good, talk about a disaster of a team!
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 00:30:19
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whoa, i ask a simple question and you get butt hurt about it.
Yes, you can defend the QB when the line is letting people through the middle all night long...(every pick was that way btw)
I didnt say us losing has never been his fault, i said is what happened really indefensible....which a sane person would understand as yes it doesnt make him look good but you can defend it still. You talk about all this talent Romo has around him, and yes the talent around his is amazing. The problem isnt him not having weapons, its not being able to use the weapons because you get about 1-2 seconds to do anything most of the time. (notice when he was actually getting about 5 seconds he did good and made touchdowns). But i guess that doesnt matter does it. Put your beloved brady behind the line we have and see how his stats look. He would be sitting on the sideline pouting to the O-line coach about how bad he is doing, then go and blow up on the o-line themselves. (which he does after getting touched once....so i could only imagine what would happend if he got hit 10+ times)
Edit-trust me, im tired of it and been tired of it for a while now. But i would be more then happy to give romo another year if we fired and hired a new 0-line coach and used most if not all our picks on the o-line. Then, you would see me treat Romo like i treat the rest of the people on the cowboys roster.
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 05:41:12
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No, Luke, I'm not butthurt that your QB sucks. But I've never seen you blame romo for anything. It's always everyone else's fault. The talent is all there around him. If you had a better QB there, you guys would be in the playoffs this year. Sorry but you can't just say romo or Brady do not make a difference. You're delusional saying that.
But happy New Years though. I'm looking forward to posting my playoff predictions!
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:31:23
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Or I guess what amazes me is that Brady can have 300 YD 1 TD 0 INT with a 90+ rating in his 5th Super Bowl but lose, and you're ready at any moment to tell me how overrated he is and pick him apart...:yet every time romo posts a 50 or lower rating, tosses a bunch of picks and gets eliminated from contention in the regular season, you see nothing wrong with it. I guess you just subconsciously hold romo to a very, very low standard. |
I guess Brady should have thrown for 350 and 3 TD's.... Thats what good Qb's do right? They do everything they have to do to win, so Brady should have done more, right? NEVER can a very poor offensive line and NO running game hinder a QB, thats just preposterous.... throwing ONLY 300 yards and 1 TD simply was not enough for a great quarterback in a game that matters.
No, I'm not completely excusing Romo's poor performance, but you have been using double standard arguments for Brady and against any other QB's, namely Romo, constantly.
You HAVE claimed Romo to be a bad QB and not a leader when he has went for 300+ yards with multiple TD's and no INT's JUST because they lost. This kinda goes back to my comment about your situational arguments and standards....
When we went 1-3 in December yet Romo was was 8-0 on TD to INT's, YOU said Romo "didn't do enough". He performed flawlessly, yet YOU said he didn't do enough. I bet you if Brady goes 12-35 for 120 yards in 2 weeks and Ridley has 240 yards and 5 TD's, you'd claim "The D was looking out for Brady too much and Brady is the only reason Ridley was THAT successful and we won."
I don't wanna sit here and rag on for days and weeks and likely this entire offseason.... All I'm gonna say is we need an oline (and a different coach). If we had a Patriots caliber Oline, you WILL see what Romo is capable of. Laugh, argue or recite arguments all you want, I PERSONALLY hope Dallas isn't stupid enough to let Romo go.
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 14:50:36
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Romo might have performed "flawlessly" throughout December, but it seems pretty logical to think he's not very good when he throws 8 TDs and no picks, then when it's do or die time he throws 3 picks...
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 17:37:18
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See the difference here is I think Brady played poorly in that Super Bowl loss. Whereas if that was romo, you'd still be telling me how awesome he played. I have no double standard, I'm just showing yours. Brady didnt have any run game or defense ether, yet I think he's bad much more success since his last Super Bowl win than romo has. If I had to pick which patriots team I'd rather have, I'd say 2004.
I just don't get why you can see when Brady could have played better, despite having good or great stats but you can't see that for romo. Isn't the whole 18-1 saying "it doesn't mean anything if the 1 comes in the Super Bowl" right? So, as Spazzy said, romo looks great until it matters most. All of his career. You excuse everything away on everything else, as if every other QB doesn't have problems of their own. You just see the success Brady has had lately and think it must mean he has a perfectly balanced team, when the reality is he just carries the team and makes up for the problems. He's lost a few Super Bowls, but wait until romo at least gets to a Super Bowl before you so harshly criticize the good QBs in the league for doing much more than romo can.
He's just not a leader. He needs a perfect team and the lead to win. Any adversity and he crumbles. Need leads his team on the ham winning drive, and he's 1-6 in his career in playoffs or week 17 do or die games. He may pad his stats in other moths and games, and he may go 8-0 in TDs but when it matters most, count on him puking all over himself. Every single time.
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 22:58:49
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im surprised about bears firing lovie smith. I wasnt surprised about the jets retaining rex ryan - they need him for the defense, it's that simple. They really need a new QB. Bring in someone legit to challenge mark sanchez for his job or just cut sanchez and take the cap hit. The jets are going to have to cut some good players because im not sure if it's this offseason or next that they will be 36mill over the cap... hopefully they bring in a much better GM who can work a miracle or at least patch up a sinking ship. A jets fan like me can only hope. At least we're not as bad as the chiefs or browns lol.
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Posted on Tue Jan 01, 2013 23:43:39
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im surprised about bears firing lovie smith. I wasnt surprised about the jets retaining rex ryan - they need him for the defense, it's that simple. They really need a new QB. Bring in someone legit to challenge mark sanchez for his job or just cut sanchez and take the cap hit. The jets are going to have to cut some good players because im not sure if it's this offseason or next that they will be 36mill over the cap... hopefully they bring in a much better GM who can work a miracle or at least patch up a sinking ship. A jets fan like me can only hope. At least we're not as bad as the chiefs or browns lol. |
I was a little surprised about Lovie as well, then I realized the Bears have missed the playoffs 5 out of the last 6 years, then I was like, "it makes sense now..." shit, Jim Caldwell had 1 bad year and he got the axe!
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 03:13:23
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I can't say I'm very surprised Smith got the ax. He wouldn't be the first coach I think would be fired, but he hasn't been anything great. They could really do with a better offensive minded coach, because that's probably been the difference between them winning a Super Bowl and them losing their latest appearance and their latest NFC game. A lot of that is the fact Cutler sucks and they don't really have that much talent on offense at most of the positions, but I don't see anything Smith has done that showed he was indispensable.
As for the Jets... the cap is crap--that's the saying around here anyways. There's so many ways to maneuver around it, whether by front/back loading contracts, averaging them out differently, or just working in little loopholes in what counts towards cap salary and what doesn't that there's no shortage of ways for an NFL team to get themselves under the cap. I do believe they will be cutting and trading some good players though, but that's mostly because they probably want to rebuild a little more than cap jail issues. It may be time to throw in the towel on this version of the Jets, on offense and defense, and start mostly fresh going into the 2013 season. But I think Ryan has to go. He is a third of the problem, as far as I'm concerned. He ran his mouth way too much and continued to make excuses when they lost and made his players believe that they could win games by simply trash talking. Little surprise that not only didn't work, but has now led to very bad locker room problems, but what else would you expect when the coach himself was trash talking and encouraging his own players to do so as well? He's great on defense, and there is probably a team that would love to have him as the defensive coordinator, but as a pure HC, I don't think he has any clue how to run an offense whatsoever.
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 03:27:02
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Also, as Bart Scott would say, CAN'T WAIT for the playoffs, so here's my predictions:
Wild Card
(5)Colts over (4)Ravens
(6)Bengals over (3)Texans
(4)Redskins over (5)Seahawks
(3)Packers over (6)Vikings
Divisional
(6)Bengals over (1)Broncos
(2)Patriots over (5)Colts
(2)49ers over (4)Redskins
(1)Falcons over (3)Packers
Conference
(2)Patriots over (6)Bengals
(2)49ers over (1)Falcons
Super Bowl
Patriots over 49ers
Duh
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 03:59:18
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You think the Bengals will beat the Broncos? Or is that just wishful thinking?
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 04:05:01
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Bengals and Niners won't make it that far.
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 04:51:38
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You think the Bengals will beat the Broncos? Or is that just wishful thinking? |
I have a feeling the Broncos are a step above a house of cards. They haven't exactly played the toughest schedule... one of the worst ones actually, and they're 1-3 against teams with 10 or more wins, with all of their loses coming to playoff teams. They beat Cincy by 8 last time they played, but that certainly didn't prove much. Other than that, they closes out the year playing 3 of their final 4 games against the Chiefs, Raiders, and Browns (a combined 11-37), with the Ravens in there who lost their way into the playoffs. So in other words, they haven't faced any real opposition for a while, and sometimes that doesn't help a team going forward. The Bengals have a pretty good defense this year, and have some weapons on offense to go along with a young QB who suffered a playoff loss last year as well, and could be rolling with momentum from a playoff win. They're my sleeper pick to make more noise than most people are thinking they could. Honestly, I think the Bengals would match up best against the Patriots, as the Pats have been able to score 30-40 points a game on the Denver defense the past 3 games they've played, and have won all 3. Whereas the Bengals have a good D-line, and it's been those kind of teams that have given the Pats the most problems over the years.
As for the 49ers, they look like they were backing their way into the playoffs, but I think they just hit a slump. Bad time for a slump, sure, but at least they won their final game to clinch their bye, which is more than Houston or Green Bay can say. The funny thing is it was their defense that was killing them, which is probably better than if it was the offense just falling apart. They've got enough talent on D that I can write off a few bad performances to just any given Sunday, and I think they can return to form. Even with their massive amount of points allowed these past few weeks, they still only surrendered a TOTAL of 260 on the year, and that's saying something. Most of the NFC is inconsistent, with the Falcons not really impressing anyone, the Packers choking away a bye in the final week, and then take your pick of which surprising playoff team you think has a better chance between MIN, SEA or WAS.
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 05:51:45
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I'm telling you, without J Smith, that Niner D is suspect. It's not a slump. Without what he does to set up that front 7, they are not scary. J Smith is notorious for holding the OL, allowing A Smith to wreak havoc. Since J Smith went down, A Smith has 0 sacks (Seattle's line is iffy, Zona's OL is bad, NE's I don't know).
Akers is missing, so you bring in Cundiff? ha ha ha
As for the Hawks, gonna be a very interesting game. Two similar offenses (power RB, pistol formations, read-options, mobile QBs that can throw a good deep ball). Our LBs are young but fast, but are suspect in coverage. Most teams dink and dunk on us to get their yards. It's frustrating to watch. We have the edge in our secondary (Browner's back!). Sherman on Garcon, Browner on Moss, Bam Bam in the box, Thomas(fastest S in the game, and one of the top 3 S in the game).
Gonna be a close one, but I think the Hawks pull it out. Hopefully it's the same ref crew that just worked the Skins/Cowboys game, because they let everything go.
And I predict Golden Tate will get a TD. Kid is finally growing up. And in open field, with the ball, kid is dangerous. Kid has made some sensational plays, although a lot have been called back because of holding on Breno 
We'll see how it all plays out.
I'm picking BAL, SEA, GB, and Texans.
And Bosox, you know Giselechek has to go through Denver to get to the Superb Owl
I agree that the Texans and Falcons are not impressing anybody, but I don't see the Texans losing to Dalton. I hope SEA and GB wins so we can go to ATL. Our D will thrive on that turf and shut Ryan down. (homerism over lol)
Leading up to the weekend, some great bowl games going on!!!
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:19:44
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I just don't think Denver has been as impressive as they appear. Beat up a bunch of joke teams and lost to all playoff ones. They're good, and being home will help then, but I think there's going to be an upset early with them. And Houston.... They don't look ready for the playoffs. Seahawks could beat Washington but I don't know if I see them making the conference game
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 18:24:18
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Ray Lewis announces his retirement today for after the season, not that all of us didn't see it coming or anything, but it makes me a little sad
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 18:48:38
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Ill put it at 45% he plays with the patriots at least 1 game next year.
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 21:28:53
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Yeah maybe more like 1.5%
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Posted on Wed Jan 02, 2013 22:44:35
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0% especially when the just named a street after him
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Posted on Thu Jan 03, 2013 04:42:44
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Is Garrett going to be fired? Sounds like Jerry has had enough.
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