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Posted on Mon Oct 29, 2012 19:53:58
But that is just typical Romo, and the typical response of people who think he's a better QB than he really is. Does it really count as special if he's the one who dug the huge hole in the first place? And sure, that call on Bryant was rough (true, but rough) but is that really what it has to come down to for Romo? Throwing 4 picks that led to points, and desperately then trying to come back into the game and win it on a last second 40 yard hail mary? I mean come on. And the difference between Romo and Brady is about 400 yards, 7 TDs, 10 INTs, and 2 wins. So again, I see no reason why you can even try to justify comparing Brady to Romo in any sort of way just now. Perhaps Romo should be more of a game manager like Brady, like you seem to think, and let the run game "get them back into games" and maybe then he'd be putting up numbers like Brady?





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Posted on Mon Oct 29, 2012 20:26:58
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But that is just typical Romo, and the typical response of people who think he's a better QB than he really is. Does it really count as special if he's the one who dug the huge hole in the first place? And sure, that call on Bryant was rough (true, but rough) but is that really what it has to come down to for Romo? Throwing 4 picks that led to points, and desperately then trying to come back into the game and win it on a last second 40 yard hail mary? I mean come on. And the difference between Romo and Brady is about 400 yards, 7 TDs, 10 INTs, and 2 wins. So again, I see no reason why you can even try to justify comparing Brady to Romo in any sort of way just now. Perhaps Romo should be more of a game manager like Brady, like you seem to think, and let the run game "get them back into games" and maybe then he'd be putting up numbers like Brady?



Yeah, they tried getting the run game going again and Felix fumbled the ball running into his own blocker. You act like Romo was the only person who had mishaps in that game. The games almost hero Dez also lost a fumble in the first quarter that helped dig the whole.

But this is what you don't get.... I am NOT excusing Romo's mistakes. I acknowledge that he put us where we were. I can accept that. But you can't acknowledge that Romo played great in bringing us back. You make it seam like we could put any 1 of the other 31 starting QB's in our offense and they would outshine Romo like comparing Ryan Leaf to Dan Marino. Romo throws more than half his balls running for his life, something the greater majority, including you god Brady, doesn't have to do. If Romo had time not to force the ball so much and had a reliable RB to fall back on you would see a completely different QB, but he's never had that chance. And clowns like you and Chit sit there in your little high horses neglecting all the X factors that keep Romo from being at the same level as the "elites" of the league. I would LOVE to see Brady crying on the sideline because he keeps getting hit 2 steps into a 3 step drop. THEN you would be more than happy to shit on your line and complain like we do that our line makes our QB look A LOT worse.


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Posted on Mon Oct 29, 2012 23:09:58
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Only highlight of the year if you're a Colts fan!


fixed


Yes, that's what it was, "fixed", you can't see the ball crossing the plane or anything like that...


....... Really dude? Are you new to Torn or ... the internet?


Yeah, I must be, because I have no idea what you are talking about, please enlighten me...


Your original comment read..

"Highlight of the year if you're a Colts fan!"
I changed it to
"ONLY highlight of the year if you're a Colts fan!"
And said "fixed".
Get it now or are you that dense?


Am I that dense? maybe you should bold it next time, it was not an obvious "fix"... But seriously, coming from the Cowboys fan?

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Posted on Mon Oct 29, 2012 23:26:43
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sorry, but i have never seen somebody be called out of bounds because of their finger tips....

and i will follow crows led this time and just ignore your instigating comments.


Me neither, but since it was the first part of his body to come down and it was out of bounds...No touchdown.


Great comeback for Romo, if he had only completed it. But isn't that the Cowboys in a nutshell?


the bottom part of his hand was actually on the ground before his finger tips...but my point still stands.

and i will admit its a right call if you are nit picking the rules, but its such a small portion of the body its just as ridiculous of a call as it is the correct call.


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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 01:46:33
Don't get me wrong, people.



I like Romo. Easily a top 10 QB in the league today. The one thing about the Cowboys is that it's always something. Whether it's Romo playing like crap, the defense giving up points, or a mixture of both. The fact remains that the Cowboys have the talent to be Superbowl contenders but what's missing is ownership of the faults. Who do I think is to blame? Jerry Jones.



Also, if you're going to spend money in the NFL nowadays...Spend it on your offensive and defensive line. If the Cowboys had a better o-line, most of Romo's mistakes over the past few years wouldn't have happened.



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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 02:35:56
In my opinion, Romo isn't even close to a top ten quarterback!

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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 05:20:18
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Don't get me wrong, people.



I like Romo. Easily a top 10 QB in the league today. The one thing about the Cowboys is that it's always something. Whether it's Romo playing like crap, the defense giving up points, or a mixture of both. The fact remains that the Cowboys have the talent to be Superbowl contenders but what's missing is ownership of the faults. Who do I think is to blame? Jerry Jones.



Also, if you're going to spend money in the NFL nowadays...Spend it on your offensive and defensive line. If the Cowboys had a better o-line, most of Romo's mistakes over the past few years wouldn't have happened.


I agree with you whole heartedly here. I've said numerous times that our problems are on both sides of the line. Our Oline has sucked for years just like our D line has. Our "pressure" on D relies solely on Ware and it should not ONLY rely on 1 player. Ware is one of the best pass rushers in the league yet we have not given him help. And our O line would give up 15 sacks a game if Romo wasn't as mobile as he is. If Romo was as slow and immobile as Brady or Manning he would have had to retire by now, but Romo makes shit happen. No QB in this league has had to chase down snaps like Romo has but he just makes it work most of the time. I swear, if any team wanted to run the wildcat it should be Dallas.... with the god awful snaps from the crappy centers we've had, I'm pretty sure Romo could play WR from time to time.


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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 05:21:05
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In my opinion, Romo isn't even close to a top ten quarterback!


Well.... you're a fool and we've all already established that....


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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 13:28:59
See crow, you wonder why I bring up Brady because you can't defend romo without taking a jab at him. Brady isn't exactly a "mobile" QB but he has 15 times the football IQ and pocket awareness that romo does and can get the ball out quick. I just never understand why romo/Dallas fans feel the need to bring up manning or Brady when talking about him. It makes no sense and it's an augment you'll lose evey time. Sure, he puts up stats and stat wise he's top 10 definitely in the league, but....clutch performances? Putting a team on his back? We're at the point in the NFL where top 10 QBs can do that. Flacco has actually played decent in the playoffs without an offense, Eli won last year with a pretty bad defense and no run game, hell even alex smith stepped it up towards the end of last year and had some good games that he won. And the patriots, as up and down as they've been since 2008, are something like 44-5 all time under belichick in December. It's a passing league now to the point where a decent QB can put up numbers and win some games without much help from either side of the ball... But we still continue to romo play poorly when his team needs him most. That's not even debatable at this point.



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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 13:50:11
John Skelton, Matt Cassel, Ryan Tannehill, Cam Newton, Brandon Weeden, Tony Romo... Those are the quarterbacks with more INT's than TD's, that's some good looking company for your "top 10" quarterback...

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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:58:17
This season it's beyond a doubt romo is having a terrible year this season. But in his career his stats are pretty good but he plays poorly in the games his team needs him most. And it's beyond a question that he cannot carry his team. Romo is the type of QB who needs a solid team all on sides. He has to have a good offense and great defense and then he can be fine. Otherwise, he can't make anyone around him look good



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Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 20:35:25
Anyways, here's some of my own personal power rankings.

NFC
Giants - they're the defending champs, 6-2, and well balanced.
49ers - Picked up where they left off, amazing defense, better offense than last year.
Falcons - Prove it to me, Ryan, that you wont choke again in January (see Crow and Luke? Romo isn't the only QB I call out for choking).
Packers - Got back on a streak, still have a very dangerous offense and elite winning QB.
Bears - Outstanding defense, but I still don't care for Cutler and he hasn't even played well this year anyways.

AFC
Texans - Best record in conference, appear very balanced but never can seem to stay healthy... but blew out Baltimore so they get the nod.
Patriots - When they hit on all cylinders they are dangerous. They're also still pretty healthy, as compared to Baltimore or Pittsburgh.
Denver - Surprisingly not bad and if they ever get McGahee to play up to his expectations they could actually be pretty good.
Baltimore - They started very hot, but got embarrassed by Houston, Flacco has looked pretty mediocre in his past 4 games and have some more injuries.
Tie - After that, take your pick out of Miami, Pittsburgh, Indy, SD, Oakland, BUF... the conference sucks and there's a jumble of poor teams after this.




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Posted on Wed Oct 31, 2012 03:35:43
lol, eli had a bad D last year.....thats a great joke, thanks for giving me a very healthy laugh.


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Posted on Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:32:47
The giants D-line was almost godly last year, but other than that, eh

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Posted on Wed Oct 31, 2012 15:30:26
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lol, eli had a bad D last year.....thats a great joke, thanks for giving me a very healthy laugh.


I know, facts usually don't stand in your way. But here, Giants stats in 2011:

Allowed 400 points, with -6 net points scored, good for 24th in the league. 26th in the league in yards allowed per game. 28th in league for passing yards per game. 18th in the league for rushing yards allowed per game.

I'd call that pretty bad and average in most categories. In fact, some of those categories are worse than the Patriots were last year on defense. But I'm really not surprised you just rely on information from multiple years ago, seeing as you still think the Cowboys are good, and just fall back on what teams typically are--not what they actually are in any given season.

As for their D-line, they weren't "almost Godly" by any means.... they ranked in the top 5 or 6 in terms of sacks, with like 48, which is very good, but they only looked Godly against a few teams (like Chicago) where they put up like 7 sacks in one game.

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Posted on Wed Oct 31, 2012 18:50:29
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lol, eli had a bad D last year.....thats a great joke, thanks for giving me a very healthy laugh.


I know, facts usually don't stand in your way. But here, Giants stats in 2011:

Allowed 400 points, with -6 net points scored, good for 24th in the league. 26th in the league in yards allowed per game. 28th in league for passing yards per game. 18th in the league for rushing yards allowed per game.

I'd call that pretty bad and average in most categories. In fact, some of those categories are worse than the Patriots were last year on defense. But I'm really not surprised you just rely on information from multiple years ago, seeing as you still think the Cowboys are good, and just fall back on what teams typically are--not what they actually are in any given season.

As for their D-line, they weren't "almost Godly" by any means.... they ranked in the top 5 or 6 in terms of sacks, with like 48, which is very good, but they only looked Godly against a few teams (like Chicago) where they put up like 7 sacks in one game.


i dont think you understand my reason for laughing, you said he won with a bad D. Which is completely false, giants D woke up at the end of the season and turned into a true force. (same time they went on their win streak).....he lost with a bad d and won with a good d, period sorry.


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Posted on Wed Oct 31, 2012 18:59:55
Somehow I have a feeling that is you backtracking and trying to "clarify" what you said, after seeing the stats to prove you wrong. But their defense wasn't really that great in the playoffs anyways. Sure, they held the Falcons to 2 points but... let's be real, the Falcons suck worse than the Cowboys do in the playoffs. After that, the defense played pretty average or slightly above average, and it was more Eli Manning making some crazy plays like; his Hail Mary in GB that changed the tone of that playoff game, along with the 37 points he put up; his 317 yards passing against the stingiest defense in the league in the NFC Championship game; and finally his late comeback drive with minutes remaining in the Super Bowl by hitting, who was it, Cruz or manningham on the sidelines on a perfect throw to extend the eventual game-winning drive for them, while marching down the length of the field. That's what won the game. It was Eli throwing 4,900+ yards in the regular season that kept the team going 9-7 with a poor defense instead of 7-9. Their defense stepped it up in the Super Bowl, but let's please not pretend this was the same as the 2007 team that won where Eli was an average QB that had one of the better defenses to take the field in a while.



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Posted on Thu Nov 01, 2012 03:42:34
so your telling me your oh so perfect qb brady could only score 17 points on a down right shiity D? something there isnt lining up....Sorry, but if it wasnt for the D playing the way they was, eli would not have beat the perfect lady brady for a second time.

i think you were just trying to prove me wrong, even tho i wasnt by using the whole season's stats (which doesnt mean a damn thingy really)


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Posted on Thu Nov 01, 2012 05:40:58
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so your telling me your oh so perfect qb brady could only score 17 points on a down right shiity D? something there isnt lining up....Sorry, but if it wasnt for the D playing the way they was, eli would not have beat the perfect lady brady for a second time.

i think you were just trying to prove me wrong, even tho i wasnt by using the whole season's stats (which doesnt mean a damn thingy really)


nope, it was Welker dropping that pass.




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Posted on Thu Nov 01, 2012 13:57:52
Luke, you trying to bait me into saying Brady is perfect doesn't work; I'm not you. Brady didn't have much going in the Super Bowl and the Giants have played pretty well against NE, for whatever reason, over the past few years. But if you want to ignore the fact the Giants ranked near the bottom in many major defensive categories last year, ignore the fact Eli threw for nearly 5,000 yards, and ignore all the great throws and plays by Eli in the playoffs then ok, that's your opinion. The Giants haven't had the feared defense that they've been known for since about 2009, but look like they're getting back on track this season.

See I'm not a fool with Brady, as much as you think I am. I can understand that Brady absolutely had no excuse to play as mediocre as he did in the Super Bowl, because I know the Giants had a bad defense that year. I can admit that much. Now if we can only get you to admit the Giants have had a below average defense for the past few years and it's mostly Romo losing those games than the Giants winning them, then we'll have some progress. It's amazing that I can admit Brady's faults despite the fact he has won 3 more Super Bowls than Romo ever will, yet you can't admit any fault with Romo and, as usual, you point the finger at everything else as to why he sucks... like pointing the finger at a very weak Giants defense when everyone else in the league realizes they're not actually that good.



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Posted on Thu Nov 01, 2012 20:57:54
this is the trouble with having an NFL thread that has two regular posters that are Cowboys fan...... they get quiet around the midpoint of the season and I'm left talking to myself in here.



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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 00:31:32
sorry, i have a job that has me working about 12 hours a day and you have an 8 hour/day job....

but as ihave said, you are judging the giants by the whole year, not just the last part where they actually started to when and JPP broke out and became a scary SOB. See, you want to say i ignore facts, but fact is 90% of the time stats are misleading due to a very bias view of the person presenting the stats.


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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 01:04:53
A 12 hour job means you have 12 hours to post. Cry me a river about working 12 hours, and I wont get into how many hours I worked with how many jobs in one day while going to school full time for a while so pah-lease.

And no, 90% of the time stats tell the truth. Sure, a team can get hot and finish a certain way, but usually... always... there are stats that show that. And yes, the defense improved for the Giants in the playoffs, but to say Eli had a great defense is stupid. You want to throw away the whole year based on 4 games, when in reality the Giants would have been sitting at home watching the playoffs because their defense was so bad, had Eli not stepped up and threw for just about 5,000 yards and scored some points with Cruz, Nicks, and Manningham running wild through defenses. You forget, the Giants were a 9-7 team that barely made it as the 6th seed. So the defense can play however the hell good they want to in the playoffs, the fact is Eli GOT them to the playoffs and didn't play too terrible himself during that stretch either, completing 65% of his passes, 9 TDs, 1 INT, and 1,219 yards to boot. So yeah, the defense played better than they did during the regular season, but Eli carried the team from September to December and then continued his excellent play into January-February with a defense that was playing better.... but let's not forget, that Giants defense still allowed the Pats to hold the lead until a few mins left in the 4th quarter and, if not for Eli leading another comeback drive, would have lost the Super Bowl.

I'm really not sure what you're trying to argue... here, just pretend Romo ever had a season like Eli did in 2011. I can only imagine what the hell you'd say and how you'd be telling me Romo won with a defense that allowed 400 points and whatnot.



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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 01:34:44
So the guy who always goes out of his way to state "Our defensive ranking is misleading because teams get junk passing yards cause we're up so much" is NOW saying stats tell the truth.... quit changing your arguments to suite different objectives. You're starting to act like Ted and Limey.

Can't have it every way you want it when it suits you Bo. "Our D gets junk yards against us when we win, but Manning earned all of his stats legit while losing 7 games and throwing 16 INTs, and stats always matter unless it's somebodies stats I don't like then they mean nothing,etc." Stop flipping your view points for each argument.

And the reason I'M personally quiet on here is your argumentativeness and superiority complex. I want to talk football and discuss my team, yet EVERY thing I say concerning my team you scrutinize and attack. Hell, pretty much nobody can say anything on this thread without you turning into Ted in a politics thread unless they are trashing a team you hate, then you just skip to the next comment to see what you can argue about. You were such a homer last year and so argumentative you had EVERYONE rooting for the Giants in spite of you. That should tell you something when die hard fans are rooting for their division rivals JUST so we don't hear how godly Tom and Bill are all year long from you. But shockingly to pretty much no one, you're still trashing everything not Patriots related and continuing to act pompous.


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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 02:16:50
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So the guy who always goes out of his way to state "Our defensive ranking is misleading because teams get junk passing yards cause we're up so much" is NOW saying stats tell the truth.... quit changing your arguments to suite different objectives. You're starting to act like Ted and Limey.

Can't have it every way you want it when it suits you Bo. "Our D gets junk yards against us when we win, but Manning earned all of his stats legit while losing 7 games and throwing 16 INTs, and stats always matter unless it's somebodies stats I don't like then they mean nothing,etc." Stop flipping your view points for each argument.

And the reason I'M personally quiet on here is your argumentativeness and superiority complex. I want to talk football and discuss my team, yet EVERY thing I say concerning my team you scrutinize and attack. Hell, pretty much nobody can say anything on this thread without you turning into Ted in a politics thread unless they are trashing a team you hate, then you just skip to the next comment to see what you can argue about. You were such a homer last year and so argumentative you had EVERYONE rooting for the Giants in spite of you. That should tell you something when die hard fans are rooting for their division rivals JUST so we don't hear how godly Tom and Bill are all year long from you. But shockingly to pretty much no one, you're still trashing everything not Patriots related and continuing to act pompous.


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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 15:24:20
Crow, here are the two biggest differences in what I'm saying and what you two are saying:

1) I said our defense is not as bad as they appear, but are still terrible. But they often do ok with giving up points, just tend to sometimes give up yards, but typically play well enough by forcing a turnover or getting one big stop for the Pats to win the game. this is proven by the fact in games it actually MATTERS (AFC Divisional Round, AFC Championship, Super Bowl), the Pats defense only allowed on average of 17 points a game. Much like what I said to Luke about the Giants. The Pats (and Giants) had a bad defense last year, both got better in the end, and I said the Pats defense wasn't as bad as people thought, but in reality they were still bad defenses.

2) The Cowboys give up points and yards when they're behind and are actually trying to score and can't, and can't stop the opposition from scoring, resulting in them going 6-10. The Patriots give up points and yards when they're up by 20 points and went 13-3 last year to the Super Bowl.

I don't trash everything Patriots related, I trash everything Cowboys related. I have not trashed anything Chit has said, despite the fact I don't really care for Rodgers. I haven't trashed Atlanta for being 7-0, I certainly don't trash El with Eli and the Giants despite the fact I hate that team... seems like the only teams I trash are Baltimore and the Cowboys, but you like the Cowboys so YOU are the one taking exception to it. And it's not just the fact the Cowboys suck that I trash, because the Panthers and Chiefs also suck, but you don't hear me trashing them... it's the fact the Cowboys suck coupled with the fact you and Luke talk about them as if they're actually 6-1 with a tough loss, coming off three straight playoff years. I don't sugarcoat anything I say about sports, I tell it how it is and I provide all the stats to back it up. So you go ahead and you list me all the teams I have trashed here, and maybe you'll see I actually don't really do that, other than to temper you and Luke's feelings of homerism about the Cowboys. See, us three aren';t different, as we're all homers... difference is I'm a homer for a team that actually, you know, wins a few games every now and then so I can cover it up with that

I only bring up the Patriots so much because I'm not sure there has ever been a football post where you and/or Luke have not brought up the Patriots. It usually goes like this:

Me: Romo sucks in December and chokes when his team needs him most.
Luke: Whoa, Lady Brady threw a pick last week to a team the Cowboys beat two years ago!
Crow: Yeah, cheatriots lulz
ME: You really want to start comparing Romo to Brady... again?
Crow&Luke: No! You're so mean! Why do you always bring Brady into this!?!?

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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 15:39:38
Or... In case your eyes get lost before reading all of that.. I guess the biggest thing that puzzles me is why you don't understand the difference between a 6-10 team doing something and a 13-3 team that wins the conference doing something. This is where you think stats lie, but stats don't lie, because you're overlooking the most obvious one, and that's the W.

And besides, just pretend it's 1996 and it's the Cowboys doing the winning. If you two act like this with the Cowboys being a 6-10 team, I can only imagine what you both would have been like if they were winning 3 out of 4 Super Bowls. So I'm just trying to have my own fun too, and if the Patriots get fans to cheer for their own bitter divisional rival NY team to beat us... well,.... I guess New England is doing something right

Oh, and if you don't want to talk about why the Patriots are so good, then stop bringing Brady up when you talk about Romo. It's simple! Now put your big boy pants on and let's talk some damn football!



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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 18:43:12
i havnt once asked you why you talk about lady brady, because i know why. He is the only real player you got, biggest tittie babu around but he is still good.


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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 19:03:28
See lol this is what I mean. Why bother taking shots at the Patriots, luke? you bring this upon yourself. So ok, I spose Welker, Gronkowski, Ridley, Wilfork, Spikes, and Hernandez are no one. Don't confuse the Pats' bad secondary with the Patriots having a bad team. I don't know why you constantly feel the need to nit pick apart the Pats whenever I tell you the Cowboys aren't good.

If you are done with talking about the Patriots, which you seem not to be seeing as you continually bring them up in every post, then let's talk about the rest of the teams. I told Crow this as well... I posted a few days ago that I wanted to talk more about the playoff situation and the top teams in each conference... neither of you two responded to that, or Spazzy. Seems all you guys actually are interested in is telling me how much the Pats are overrated or telling me Romo isn't that bad.... I'm here and have been waiting for nearly a week for ONE of you guys to talk football... and every response you make goes back to this same old argument...



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Posted on Fri Nov 02, 2012 19:10:58
Where does the 6-10 keep coming from? We went 6-10 2 seasons ago when Romo went down for the season with the collarbone injury. Last year it came down to us or NY going to the playoffs and were a Miles Austin catch away from keeping the Giants out of the playoffs.

Your point about our defense is.... well, EXACTLY what me and Luke had previously said. Do you notice AT ALL what you're doing now? When talking about Romo and we bring up the defense letting people score you would say they weren't that bad and surely were not the reason we lost. Romo was the reason and us discussing defense and Oline was just us making excuses. BUT THEN when comparing the 2 defenses it's "The Cowboys give up points and yards when they're behind and are actually trying to score and can't, and can't stop the opposition from scoring". When the Cowboys lose, it's ONLY Romo's fault, but when comparing teams the Cowboys D is a travesty and allows people to score...... how can you NOT see the flip flopping bias?

Romo had an incredible season last year but our D and Oline was terrible, and we lost (8-8 btw, not 6-10). But instead of admitting Romo had a great, or even good, season you still trash him and put ALL the blame for EVERY loss on him when last I checked, he didn't play S or CB and doesn't coach the D. To the Giants alone, our D gave up 68 points while Romo went 6-1 and had 610 yards. But according to you, Romo sucked it up and blew the season.


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