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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 19:01:56
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f**k the patriots they are a classless team as it starts with the coach, and don't get me started on the fans harassing Torrey Smith about his brother's death. Brady is the biggest chump of them all, the way he whines if he gets touched and the way he kicked his foot out when he slid to the ground in a claim to protect himself. The patriots are a bunch of chumps that whine when they can't get their own way. They get perfection and sportsmanship confused but they just been checked when they lost that game then need to man up and stop acting like women. Have fun watching Brady in the pro bowl. That's about the only action he'll see unless you blow him off blowsox.
Edit- All season I been watching bosox try to dog the ravens and never came in this thread until now because I was waiting for this moment and when we beat your team two times in the same season and send ya'll home your pats can't take it. f**k outta here. What suggs said about brady wasn't even all that bad and yes, the ravens don't get much respect like they should it's like everyone is against them but they earned every bit of what they got so far. This is Baltimore's year.
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 19:17:50
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You can argue that maybe bosox is being a bad loser, but it's 100% certain you're a pretty shocking winner 
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 19:24:29
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You never came in this thread because you're the dime a dozen fraud pussy "fan" who didn't say shit last year when the Pats beat you twice in the same year as well, including the AFC Conference game. Ravens are about one of the lowest teams in the NFL made up of players who run their mouths then apologize for it. You nver came on this thread because you yourself were too scared of the Patriots and figured the Ravens were losers and wouldn't do anything when they were dropping games in December. That's all there is to it, and now that your team won you come on here and expect anyone cares what you have to say? Not really surprised that you're a Ravens fan now. I'll rank the Ravens right up there with sorest losers in the NFL, as every time the Pats have beaten them, and it's been more often than not, they always have excuses, always have something to say, always run their mouths... it's always something with Baltimore. They play with a permanent chip on their shoulder that's there for ONE reason: You guys haven't been able to win! That's all there is to it. Nothing special about Baltimore, they're a god team who has lost in the playoffs or not qualified for the playoffs and hasn't been to a Super Bowl since 2000. That's why you don't get respect and that's why you guys are usually underdogs. You've been to AFC Title games before and you've lost them all from 2000-2011. You were the Philadelphia Eagles of the AFC, nothing unique or special about it, no particular reason why people don't give the Ravens respect other than that.
So here, now you're in the Super Bowl, let's see what you do with it. You wouldn't be the first team to win 4 games to get a title, and you wouldn't be the first underdogs to do so. Baltimore plays like it's the world against them and we all owe them something, when in reality it's just you guys have been losing tot eh Colts, Patriots, Steelers for the past 13 years and you WONDER why no one cares when you make the playoffs. Damn guy, act like you've been there before. I don't piss my pants with excitement when the Pats win a division or win a playoff game, and I don't demand people respect this team if we do...yet wow Flacco comes in a wins a few playoff games in his career and suddenly we're supposed to all... what, fear him? Hand him praise? Call him the next great QB? Hell no, this is the NFL and you earn it. This isn't the NBA where Lebron can be "King" for 7 years without winning anything, it's the NFL where Super Bowls are the only way to make a name for yourself. So, as I said, congratulations to Baltimore and Flacco for finally getting over the hump and winning the conference. You're not done yet, and if you lose this next game you'll still not get the respect you think you're so owed.
The biggest question now is: If the Ravens lose this game, do you disappear with your tail between your legs like you apparently have been doing every year, and not post again until the Ravens win something, or are you going to at least have some balls and see if you can talk AND stick around to see the results? I've been here, win or lose for the Patriots and I've been here and I've answered to everything the people on here have to say when the Patriots lose. Can't really say the same about Baltimore fans... they just want to bitch about the respect they don't get but disappear and do nothing until their team is making a run. Pathetic and fraudulent fan base they are, and their players are no different. Where were all the Ravens quoting the Bible back in December? Where was Suggs demanding respect when they were losing their way into the playoffs?
No, f**k that. Fraud team, fraud fans. No one cares about Baltimore and no one gives you guys respect for a reason, and you and thep layers are demonstrating it right now.
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 19:27:52
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It's like you guys are the same as the Seahawks fans who aren't used to winning so they think it's a big deal when you do. You want to talk about your previous home game winning streak, and expect that it means anything to anyone. Sure, maybe if you were talking to a Browns or Jaguars fan you'll impress them with your 15 home-game win streak.... but take a look at the other good teams in the league. Go ahead and look up the Patriots' home record since about 2003, and maybe you'll see why no one cares you can string together some home wins, like you're supposed to do. Flacco has won a lot of playoff games the past 5 years, but that's party because his team isn't good enough to earn himself a bye most of the time, and he has no choice but to play in early games. Before last week he was He's 7-4 in his last 5 playoff years with 0 Super Bowl appearances (or 5-4 going into this year), while Brady is 5-5 with 2 Super Bowl appearances, and you think he's garbage. Let's see Flacco win something first before you expect us to bow down to him. You guys have been the little brother of the Steelers in your division for years, and you've watched from TV as Roethlisberger and Brady racked up title after title and conference after conference. I get it, you're pissed and tired of it. But you have to win something to expect anyone to give you respect. It just shows how immature an organization the Ravens are when the players and fans can only talk about beating their last opponent, as opposed to the Super Bowl lurking. It's like the weight is already lifted for you guys and you're just happy to be there. Patriots fan didn't just smile when we beat PIT, IND, SD, BAL for our conference games, we celebrating Super Bowls and we were upset at Super Bowl losses. See if you can follow that.
The Ravens are a team and fan base that desperately want to be celebrated for doing NOTHING.
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 22:18:06
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Erk - Tbh Im not shocked at all the ravens won if anything I was more pumped up about when they played each other back in week 3.
Bosox - Yea, so what they beat the ravens twice last year and one of those games the ravens lost because of themselves in the AFC Conference game but that's old news just like the Pats who lost twice to the ravens this year. I back my team always and when they was dropping games in December they didn't have a healthy team then and they got rid of a sorry offensive coordinator, so Im not trying to hear that. The last time the pats won a Superbowl was in 05'. To sum it all up no one cares about the New England Patriots they are a non factor and your precious tom Brady will be watching the game just like you will be.
IF the ravens did lose the Superbowl which they won't I'll still back my team because they play hard. I can't say the same for New England though they had an easy ass schedule and manage to play so sorry with everything on the line. Baltimore had one of the toughest schedule's and they played and grind hard, played all road games in the playoffs this season. I like teams that play hard and they grind, the Giants went 8-8 last year and won the Superbowl teams like that is what I like. Can't say the same for New England though they think everything is suppose to be handed on a gold plate to them and bitch when they don't get it. Brats
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 22:33:45
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You didn't back shit; you admitted it yourself. You said you were just waiting and lurking to post, meaning you didn't even have the balls to come on here and say anything until the Ravens won. Also, yeah the Pats haven't won a Super Bowl since January 2005, but what exactly have the Ravens done since February 2001? They haven't done shit, literally not shit. They were an irrelevant team for most of the time since then, and only over the past couple years have they been making it to the playoffs and still losing before the won the conference.... yet you seem to think they deserve all this respect? But you're wrong when you say no one cares about the Patriots. You can say people hate the Pats, or want them to lose, but saying they don't care is silly. The Patriots are always in the discussion and that alone, by default, mean people care because 7 times out of 10, the road to the Super Bowl goes through NE.
Also, you're so stupid of a fan that you're actually downplaying your own damn team. NE wasn't playing "sorry" with everything on the line, unless I guess you mean the Ravens have no shot at beating the Pats unless the Pats just don't want to win. Are you that stupid? In your desperate attempt to trash the Patriots, you're just saying your own team wasn't actually that good and the Patriots just didn't want to play and that's why they won. You are literally one of the dumbest people I've seen on these forums.
ALL you and every other Raven fan thinks (along with the players) is that everything is supposed to be handed to you. You're supposed to command respect because you qualify for the playoffs. you tell me what exactly the Ravens have done in the past 13 years that the Patriots haven't? Tell me what the Ravens have done since Flacco came here that the Pats haven't. What have the Ravens done better so far than the Patriots? You say Pats fans think everything should be handed to them, yet the Ravens have done less and think they're being treated unfairly because no one gives a shit about their team. Win the Super Bowl and then you can say you've won a title since the Patriots have last won, and you can join the couple other teams in the NFL who have done that and you can debate over if you're more special than the Packers, Steelers, Giants, Saints, or Colts, seeing as they've all won since the Pats have, or you'll lose the Super Bowl and probably hide again for another year or so until the Ravens can win some more playoff games.
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 22:43:40
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And if we need any more proof that the Patriots are 10 times more relevant and interesting than the Ravens and 49ers currently are:
When the Patriots make Super Bowl appearances, it's all about: Will Brady win his 4th? Will he be better than Montana if he does? Is Belichick the greatest coach of all time? How do the Patriots of the 2000s compare to other great teams of the past?
This Super Bowl? The best people come up with are: Well.... the two coaches are brothers!!!!
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Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2013 23:49:39
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The Patriots haven't won a Superbowl since February 05 and yea, the ravens haven't won since 2000 but you tell me when the ravens had a legit team since 2000? Yet the patriots have had weapons since 2000 and the last time they won a Superbowl was in 05 five years after 2000. The ravens made it to the playoffs each and every year since they had Flacco, Brady didn't do that that... Of course he does have 3 Superbowl rings not to mention BB the greatest cheat of all time but in no way am I saying Flacco is better than Brady I can admit that and I can also say you are just another salty Patriots fan whose comments is invalid just like your team.
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Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2013 00:05:10
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You're so contradictory in everything you say it's amazing. Baltimore has made it to the playoffs every year since 2008, meaning they've had a pretty good team. Suggs, Reed, Lewis, Flacco, Rice, Ngata, Mason, Heap.... you guys have had a lot of good players on the team during the whole Flacco era, but have come up short in the playoffs. Nothing wrong with that, but you talk as if when the Ravens do it, it means something, but if the Pats do it it doesn't mean anything. There is absolutely nothing Baltimore has done better than the Patriots in their entire history, last year, the past 5 years, ever. This is the first year in 13 years that you've come out of the conference, after having 7 previous playoff years end short. Again, nothing terribly wrong with that, and you've been a good team, but what the hell is it again that makes Baltimore special? I'm missing that concept. You can't seem to answer it.
You and Luke are the same. You trash Brady because he lost the past two Super Bowls and because he had two years where he lost his first playoff game, yet you want to hype up... Flacco? Flacco is good, and I've developed more respect for him since last year, but he doesn't deserve to be given respect! He hasn't done ANYTHING! This is the most he's ever done in his career, win one AFC Conference Title, which is really great... but before that, all he was good for was winning a playoff game or two every year, clinching a 3rd seed or lower and nothing else. While Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl either during that span, he's still been pretty damn impressive, ESPECIALLY in comparison to Flacco. Yet you want to shit on Brady, so if you want to do that then I just wonder what you think Baltimore has done better.
I haven't said the Patriots have been the best team over the past 5 years, never once said that and I don't think any Patriots fan have been saying that. I think they were the best team of the past decade, I think Brady is 2nd best all time behind Montana but still active and I think Belichick is the greatest coach of all time, but none of that means I think the Pats were the best team in 2009, 2010, 2011. It just seems other fans of other teams just hate the Patriots because they win lots of games and are generally very good. That's all there is to it. Every other high profile QB bitches or pouts or gets calls. Eli Manning constantly complains how he's the 3rd most popular QB in his city. Flacco keeps demanding people call him elite. Peyton makes idiotic commercials every day and demands flags be thrown. Rodgers gets flags for roughing the passer.
You just suffer from being the little brother of your division and from having to watch your rivals be in more bigger games and have more hype around them because they EARNED IT! Flacco and Baltimore still have to EARN something before anyone gives them respect. Win the Super Bowl and you can put yourself in a class of recent Champions... but until then, best stick to lurking around until your team wins something, otherwise you'll just make yourself look stupid.
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Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2013 02:19:24
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You got me on that I made a mistake of course the defense has always been good but I was talking about offense wise... Like a QB Im not saying Flacco is the best but he's been the best Baltimore had since 2000 by far the receivers weren't good I don't count mason as good, Heap played scared after he got injured etc... Im not trashing Brady Im just saying you praise Brady like he recently went to the Superbowl and won it's been 8 years hard to believe. You right it don't mean nothing if they don't win the Superbowl but they will and we'll see. Brady is at the top for bitchy QB's though no doubt about that.
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Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2013 03:08:29
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Well you may not want to count mason as a good WR, but he's had 8 years with 1,000+ YDs, including 4 in baltimore and 3 with Flacco. Pretty good if you ask me. To go along with Ray Rice who's been one of the best RBs in the league since 2009, and of course the outstanding defense. So no, you can't pull the "we haven't had a good team" bullshit, because the team you have right now is pretty similar in many key positions to the one you had in 2008. And no, I don't talk about Brady like he's won the Super Bowl recently, I talk about him like he's a 3 time champion who's been to 5 Super Bowls, including last years, and who has won more playoff games than anyone else, despite the fact he usually has a bye and only ever gets to play a max of 3 playoff games per year. I know it bothers you and many others, but those are the facts. He is one of the greatest to play his position, and he's been playing at a very high level despite the fact he hasn't won. If you actually came on this thread, instead of hiding until your Ravens do something, you'll have seen I have said many times that Brady hurt his legacy with these two SB losses, and that he can't ever be considered as the greatest unless he at least wins another title. I have also said he really should have won a Super Bowl over the past few years but has come up short.
I only pull out the stats when people like you absolutely trash Brady and talk about him like he's done nothing or that he's been bad since 2005 or try and tell me he isn't better than guys like Peyton Manning... and especially when you want to try and list guys like Flacco (or Romo, in the case of another poster) as being these awesome QBs who don't get any respect. It's just amazing to me you want to criticize and hold Brady to such an incredibly high standard, yet if Flacco just goes out and loses in the divisional round after winning in Wild Card weekend, that's supposed to earn him respect.
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Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2013 19:24:42
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I'm not a big fan of Flacco, I might even dislike him more than Tony Romo, that's saying something...
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 00:55:34
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By bosox [278767]
And if we need any more proof that the Patriots are 10 times more relevant and interesting than the Ravens and 49ers currently are:
When the Patriots make Super Bowl appearances, it's all about: Will Brady win his 4th? Will he be better than Montana if he does? Is Belichick the greatest coach of all time? How do the Patriots of the 2000s compare to other great teams of the past?
This Super Bowl? The best people come up with are: Well.... the two coaches are brothers!!!! |
The whole brother coaching against brother is a nice little touch but a knee jerk headline, but that doesn't make it a boring Super Bowl or irrelevant.
Befor your Pats had any relevance at all, the Niners were the cream of the crop and 1 of the best franchises out there for 2 decades and it's nice for us old heads to see them become contenders again, and with their youth and skill at some key positions, for all we know this could be the beginning of another dynasty. It's not like it came out of nowhere, they were in the championship game last year.
Flacco called himself elite and the best QB in the league, and now he has the ability to try and prove it (not prove to be the best, but prove his name should be in the conversation) on the biggest stage there is. And by all rights, Flacco, Rice, Smith, Pitta, Ngata... still rather young guys even if the D is aging/retiring. With a couple right pieces added to a young offense they could be a team to reckon with as well.
So the possibility of witnessing 2 teams go at it that could be in the midst of becoming elite franchises is far from not interesting. If anything, I find it more interesting. Those Patriots debates will still rage on even if they never go to the playoffs again under Brady and Bill's time. But this could be the beginning of something new instead of the same old same old. If that isn't interesting to you then I hate to see how much of a jaded fan you will become when the Patriots become what the Cowboys became after their dynasty, and yes it WILL happen.
This could also be the last game for 2 highly celebrated players in Ray Lewis and Randy Moss, 1 of which who has been to the big one but never gotten a ring. Sure Randy isn't as relevant as he used to be, but a cool story none the less.
And nobody besides Patriots fans wants to see them win again. If not because of the media hype, it's the far too overzealous fans that will never let the rest of the world hear the end of how the Patriots are the greatest team ever bar none, Brady can shit blocks with more talent than Joe Montana and the Lombardi should be changed to the Belichick because of his greatness, who btw is still 2 wins behind Landry's playoff success .
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 02:08:17
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I'm aware the 49ers have history, but the only hype around this Super Bowl is "Harbowl" and "Kaepernick can run!!!!" You'll find the odd headline about Ray Lewis, and he deserves it, but other than that.... pretty lackluster story lines as compared to the past few match ups we've seen. Unless you want to tell me Pats/Giants, Packers/Steelers, Colts/Saints have been less compelling. And psh you can't sit here and tell me how Brady hasn't won since 2004 so everything he's done before has no bearing on today yet tell me titles won in the 80s by players long since retired on the 49ers make them a compelling story now
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 03:05:16
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So the Patriots first 2 Super Bowl wins were not important and uninteresting? And the headlines read "Can Brady win his first of 3 Super Bowls? Find out Sunday!". No. It's all gotta start somewhere. If the Niners some how go on to win 4 Super Bowls in 5 years, are you not gonna have that "wow, I witnessed the beginning of this dynasty" or would you still call this a boring pointless Super Bowl?
Teams rise and fall and become more or less relevant. When "surprise" teams make it, how is that less interesting than seeing something we've seen already? If every Super Bowl were the same 5 or 6 teams going back and forth, how can that remain interesting?
And exactly how were the games you listed any more or less compelling besides the opportunity to see an undefeated team in your generation? Every other game was your standard "who will win?" game. I'd be willing to bet if someone back in 01 were to say "who cares about this game, it's the fricking Patriots and Rams" you'd have been singing a different tune. But little did they know they were watching the beginning of a mini dynasty in our era.
The Super Bowl is the Super Bowl and a good game is a good game. What happens in the coming seasons after this Bowl could give this game a whole new appreciation in retrospect, and being a fan for as long as I have has given me an appreciation for things like that.
And there is a difference between a franchise having a revival and appreciating their history and witnessing the decline of your favorite players skills and preaching about what he did 10 years ago.
You wanna talk stories and headlines? How about SF could tie the Steelers for most SB victories AND would be the only team to be undefeated in Super Bowls having won more than 1. And if they score in the mid 30's or so, will have scored more points than ANY other team in Super Bowl appearances. It may not be the individual accomplishments you are craving Brady and Bill to achieve, but those are tremendous accomplishments for their franchise.
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Posted on Fri Jan 25, 2013 03:19:57
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You boys are funny.
I was going to write out one of my usual long and technical posts with lots of 8 x 10 color pictures explaining why the 9ers are going to kick some feathered ass on February 3, 2013. But I got tired reading all that.
So I will make it short and simple for even Snoop to understand.
Kaepernick is going to perform as good as usual or even better.
Gore is going to have an outstanding day. I wouldn't be surprised if he says, after the SB win, that he will retire.
Randy Moss wants a ring (yes, I read that up there and blatantly ripped it off).
We're 5-0 in the Super Bowl.
Ravens suck and so do their fans (I read that up there too).
Lots more reasons.
The Ravens are gonna get their wings clipped. 9er defense might let you get 10-14 points.
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I'm notsaying the first Patriots Super Bowl was super a super awesome matchup. In fact, it was considered a terrible matchup at the time. And I'm not concerned with predicting which rookie QBs will make the HOF in 20 years, unlike apparently most sports news outlets today, so I take the matchup for what it is right now. I'm still going to watch it, so maybe if the 49ers or Ravens go on a run where they become the next dynasty of the NFL then yeah I'll look back and say I remember seeing their first title, but what's that got to do with Super Bowl 47? The game will probably be a good game, as the Super Bowl usually has been pretty good for the past 15 years now, but again, that has nothing to do with the hype going into it. It's the damn Super Bowl, of course everyone is going to watch and media will report on it and make story lines.
But since when do you care about irrelevant "records" like Most Points Scored in Super Bowls? I don't come on here and say "this will be a good game because Brady can pass Montana for most playoff victories!" Sure, it's a good side story (mostly for the direct team's fanbase) for things like that, but I don't think the nation is flocking to their TV sets in 10 days to see whether or not the 49ers can score the most overall points in SB history.
I don't know, call me crazy but I like the big time hype. I like when Boston, LA, NY, Chicago, Detroit are going for a title. I grew up just knowing the Cowboys were good before I really even understood what the NFL was, then saw Elway win his back to back titles and segway into the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" with Warner. Then, of course, saw Brady and my Patriots make their own headlines, saw the Steelers revive their old winning legacy for a few years (though against against a lame SEA team one year), saw Peyton on his quest for his ring, saw Brees arguably the purest passer ever, or only behind Marino, get his, and of course had the pleasure of seeing the big name matchups between marquee teams and players or between two classic sports cities.
I just like when there is more hype on the line. I love the drama and the big story. Lewis retiring is good, but what? I'm supposed to get giddy because I have a chance of seeing Joe Flacco lead his 13 year old team to a title? Or get to see Kaepernick run for a first down? There's just not a lot of star power in this game. I just feel it's not the most exciting match up we've seen lately, and probably the lamest one since the 2005 SB.
Again, unless you'd like to tell me otherwise and tell me you're more excited for this game than you've been for the past marquee match ups?
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I'm notsaying the first Patriots Super Bowl was super a super awesome matchup. In fact, it was considered a terrible matchup at the time. And I'm not concerned with predicting which rookie QBs will make the HOF in 20 years, unlike apparently most sports news outlets today, so I take the matchup for what it is right now. I'm still going to watch it, so maybe if the 49ers or Ravens go on a run where they become the next dynasty of the NFL then yeah I'll look back and say I remember seeing their first title, but what's that got to do with Super Bowl 47? The game will probably be a good game, as the Super Bowl usually has been pretty good for the past 15 years now, but again, that has nothing to do with the hype going into it. It's the damn Super Bowl, of course everyone is going to watch and media will report on it and make story lines.
But since when do you care about irrelevant "records" like Most Points Scored in Super Bowls? I don't come on here and say "this will be a good game because Brady can pass Montana for most playoff victories!" Sure, it's a good side story (mostly for the direct team's fanbase) for things like that, but I don't think the nation is flocking to their TV sets in 10 days to see whether or not the 49ers can score the most overall points in SB history.
I don't know, call me crazy but I like the big time hype. I like when Boston, LA, NY, Chicago, Detroit are going for a title. I grew up just knowing the Cowboys were good before I really even understood what the NFL was, then saw Elway win his back to back titles and segway into the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" with Warner. Then, of course, saw Brady and my Patriots make their own headlines, saw the Steelers revive their old winning legacy for a few years (though against against a lame SEA team one year), saw Peyton on his quest for his ring, saw Brees arguably the purest passer ever, or only behind Marino, get his, and of course had the pleasure of seeing the big name matchups between marquee teams and players or between two classic sports cities.
I just like when there is more hype on the line. I love the drama and the big story. Lewis retiring is good, but what? I'm supposed to get giddy because I have a chance of seeing Joe Flacco lead his 13 year old team to a title? Or get to see Kaepernick run for a first down? There's just not a lot of star power in this game. I just feel it's not the most exciting match up we've seen lately, and probably the lamest one since the 2005 SB.
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| By bosox [278767]When the Patriots make Super Bowl appearances, it's all about: Will Brady win his 4th? Will he be better than Montana if he does? Is Belichick the greatest coach of all time? How do the Patriots of the 2000s compare to other great teams of the past? |
^ Thats the only reason I brought up stats and records.
If you had stated from the get go that "star power" was your concern then I'd have been inclined to agree that it is lacking in the big names category.
And tbh I am not personally more excited by the matchup as I have no dog in the fight, but I find the matchup itself to be quite exciting. Not sure how you've considered those other matchups "marque".
But lets see... from MY perspective, it's like this.
11' NY/NE- A division rival Vs a team I dislike nowadays. A "whoever wins, this sucks" situation for me so no I was not excited.
10' GB/PIT- Brady with mobility Vs a strong D. Rodgers is good, if not great but they have no run game and his go to WR's were nearing the end of their career, so a "dynasty in the making" never crossed my mind and left me short of thinking something great was on the horizon, and PIT were lucky to be there and are far from the Steelers of old.
09' NO/IND- Little bit more exciting seeing 2 of the best QB's of our generation go head to head, but again little run game on both sides and OK D's. Rooted for Bree's but it wouldn't have hurt my feelings no matter which way it went.
08' PIT/AZ- Turned out more exciting than I thought, but AZ was lucky to be there and Fitz was the only reason.
07' NY/NE- First time I've rooted for an NFC rival in my life as the Patriots overzealous fandom had already begun and I was hoping for the fans to get knocked down a peg.
What befor then? IND/CHI? lol. The laughable robbery of the PIT/SEA game? YES, Seattle got ROBBED.
So yeah, in my opinion this is the best SB matchup since 07'. 2 good young QB's, 2 great RB's, young talented WR's and TE's on both sides and strong D's on both sides. Brother coaches facing off with very similar teams and 2 epic careers coming to an end? Second team ever to win 6 SB's, undefeated no less? Yes... Yes I find this to be a more exciting matchup than those in years past. No I'm no stating that as fact so TV ratings, records broken or whatever else don't matter to me, just my opinion.
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This Superbowl would have been better if the Packers knew how to tackle.
Actually, every Superbowl would be better with the Packers in it.
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I can't see how you can say the GB/PIT matchup wasn't a great one because of aging teams, yet overlook the fact the Baltimore defenses is on the verge of retirement and collecting social security. Maybe the running mentality of the 49ers will be what it takes to expose this fact. I just think this Super Bowl is only exciting because it's the Super Bowl. In any given week, and especially late in this last season, this would probably not even be the prime time game.
Also, it's fine to respect Ray Lewis for his talent and his career, but the guy is not only insane and weird (and I'm leaving out the murder trial here), but another version of Tebow, in terms of religion. All this guy does it cite Bible passages about why the Ravens are the best team and he actually does think he is some sort of prophet of God. It's not enough for me to hate him, but it's enough for me to be tired of his deal very quickly. And still, I'm sort of amazed that you, and other posters, have no problem saying you hate certain organizations for being classless, yet either aren't familiar with the Ravens or just don't know what classless means. And no, I'm not just talking about a team playing hard or their actions in game, it's beyond that. I just can't see any way for me to cheer for Baltimore, even if they didn't beat us and if the Pats had just missed the playoffs. They don't deserve anything as a team, from the whiny and immature Flacco crying to the media that no one likes him every few weeks, to the trash talking, sore loser defensive players, even down to Ray Rice that seemingly enjoys being patted on the head by Lewis and others, while looking awkwardly lost and happy, and being treated like a puppy on the team....
Just a weird team with terrible fans anyways.
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I didn't overlook it, I mentioned up there that the Ravens D is aging/retiring. But as I said, with a few key additions to defense they will still have a talented D. Lewis and Reed are likely the only 2 guys on D ready to retire or leave, so it's not like they are losing the entirety of their D. And their offense is young enough to still develop and stay relevant. QB, RB, WR2 and TE all under 30 and still able to learn and get better.
I also never said I liked Ray. I actually despise him. Makes me sick that since he was rich and popular he was able to get away with murder and because he found Jesus and won't stop preaching about it noone cares anymore. He never should have played another down in the NFL after what happened. Guys like him are whats wrong with this league.
As far as the entire team and fanbase, EVERY team has shitty whiney fans and players, doesn't matter who they are or what kind of success their team has had. And just like every other team, there are also great players and fans for them as well. You wanna talk shitty fans, how about taunting Torry Smith about his dead brother? Thats class right there I tell ya what.
And are you honestly gonna say players like Torrey Smith, Haloti NGata and Anquan Boldin are undeserving of being where they worked to get? I can't fathom calling and team undeserving when they have to fight tooth and nail every year with the Steelers and now suddenly the Bengals as well, while the Pats are somehow deserving when the divisional title is pretty much a gimme and has been for just about every year except the Jets only 2 years of relevance.
Now don't get confused, I'm not rooting for the Ravens outright. I was a fan of JIM Harbaugh as a player and so root for him as a coach. But I have to root for Torrey Smith cause he's a hometown kid and my best friend used to be good friends with him. He's a good kid.
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I don't understand the fascination with Torrey Smith. He really hasn't had any great year yet, but that doesn't stop anyone from saying how great he is. He's had two years, both right around 850 YD and 7 and 8 TDs. Solid but... really, the talk he gets about him you'd think he was putting up 1,400 YD and 15 TDs each of his first two seasons.
But as for the thing with Smith and Twitter, that's not what I'm talking about. Any fanbase, as you said, has people that will say stupid and ignorant things. But it's the Baltimore fanbase as a whole... they way they act. I've seen their fans travel to Gillette Stadium 5 times now over the past few years between playoffs and regular season, I go to every home game for 4 years running now for the Pats and I sit near the visiting team's tunnel, so I get to see many of the opposing teams' fans. I'll tell you that Baltimore fans are one of the rudest and obnoxious ones that ever come up here. I have my fun going back and forth with other fans, but most other fans can also be reasonable and have normal conversation... but the Ravens' fans just want to be obnoxious and classless. I'm not one to really care about that though, but it seems most of the posters on here care very much about the "class" of a fan or organization, so I just think it's worth noting that Baltimore has got to be one of the lowest fanbases.
For example, look at Snoop; perfect example of a typical Baltimore fan. Not interested in anything other than running their mouth when their team wins and thinking of however many insults he can possibly contrive to spew randomly at whoever will listen. Yup, he's actually a pretty damn good example of a Baltimore fan.
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Posted on Sat Jan 26, 2013 21:03:04
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Lol. And you both think you can lecture me about having stupid arguments.
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Lol. And you both think you can lecture me about having stupid arguments. |
What's wrong? Not getting the praise and attention you wanted in other threads? So you randomly jump into a sports thread you care nothing about to try and taunt people? Thats a little pathetic don't ya think?
So much for not taking things seriously or personally on here, huh? lol.
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Lol. The fact that you cant see how much of a hypocrite you are is hilarious.
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Well, I guess the only difference is.... sports are fun, and politics aren't
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To you. Personally I dont see it any different than video game people arguing over Call of Duty in the video game forum, but whatever floats your boat.
Anyways, didnt really come here to start an argument. Lord knows that Crow might go off the deep end if his precious football thread goes off track, even though he has no problem derailing every other thread he goes in. Only came here because I happened to be bored last night and Crow was trying to insult me in another thread and telling people to look at my post history, which lead me to his post history, which lead me to a stupid argument that Bosox was having after going into a thread earlier this week and trying to lecture me about having stupid arguments. So I felt like saying something. Normally I dont even look at this thread because I could give two shits about grown men playing with balls for a living. That is all.
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Posted on Sun Jan 27, 2013 01:33:34
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Well, and give or take a couple billion other people
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I could give two shits about grown men playing with balls for a living. That is all. |
Statements like this just piss me off! You sir, are an ignorant jackass!
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By TedThomas [887131]
I could give two shits about grown men playing with balls for a living. That is all. |
Statements like this just piss me off! You sir, are an ignorant jackass! |
Well I think people who care about adults playing kids games than they do about what is going on in the world are ignorant jackasses, but to each their own eh?
We can either start an argument over it or you can just accept that is my opinion on the matter and move on, doesnt really matter to me...
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