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Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2013 19:40:50
yeah thats for sure ha what do you think about minnesotas top line with Zach Parise LW, Mikko Koivu C, Dany Heatly RW. the announcers were saying that this line could be one of the best in hockey and they way they have been playing i could almost agree if they get their timing down anything could be possible...

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Posted on Wed Jan 23, 2013 19:54:14
Well there's no doubt they have incredible offensive talent on paper, but we've seen in the past, in hockey and other sports, that paper doesn't always translate to the ice/field/court Either way, I think they should be a pretty good team this year. Only question is how tough their division will be. Calgary has been known to go on some hot streaks and Vancouver is, of course, always one of the better teams and highs coring. But this year, I think they'll also have to deal with Edmonton being the best they've been in a while. So it really all depends on if Vancouver can maintain their high level of play with their potential goalie controversy, and if Edmonton finally breaks through and has a good season.

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Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2013 02:33:10
I heard someone say that because it's a short season those old farts on the Sharks may have a chance to win The Cup because they won't be all tired and worn out at the end of the season, lol.

I still say we'll lose because of bullshit penalty calls.

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Posted on Thu Jan 24, 2013 03:29:37
I think a condensed season works against an aging team, as it's a lot more difficult to play 4 games a week for 4 straight months when you're in you're 15th season as it is when you're in you're 2nd and 3rd.

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Posted on Mon Jan 28, 2013 04:12:36
I was looking at the stats at the end of tonight's game against Vancouver (Sharks kicked ass) and the time on ice probably averaged about 12-13 mins with 3 players over 15 but under 20 mins.

Marleau almost had a record night. He would've been the first ever NHL player to score 2 goals in each of the first 5 games in the season. He missed it by one goal.

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Posted on Wed Jan 30, 2013 17:59:16
I'm loving most of what I'm seeing from the Bruins, but there's still one concern I have: scoring! We have talent, and our coach has gone the approach of getting together 5 guys who can score 25-30 goals with another few who could easily be hitting 20, as opposed to deciding he wants one guy to be hitting 35-40. It's not that the talent isn't there, it's the actual mindset of the coach. For example, he employs a pretty defensive minded PP unit, and has two distinct PP lines; as opposed to having one group and subbing out whoever he feels necessary. He also loves 4th line persistence, and I guess it's been working for the most part over the past few years, but sometimes I don't want to see our 4th line out there down by a goal with 7 minutes left to play, and especially don't want to see our 3rd liners take a PP at that time despite the fact some of our top line guys (or best offensive talent who are just stuck on the 2nd line) sitting on the bench and never getting many PP minutes.

I would just like to see, for even a stretch of 3-4 games, us rolling out some offensive minded lines and PP units. JUST to see what happens. We've got a great defense and very solid goaltending, so I think we can afford to sacrifice a little size and defense at the top of our lines in favor of some fast skilled shooters. We have the players to do it, Julien just refuses to put them on a line together

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 04:28:56
You chumps ready for full time hockey posting yet?

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 04:37:56
The Isles are still the Isles.

I'm in Misery now (Missouri) so I see a lot of the Blues. Good team, but if Halak is out for long they are in trouble.
Tarasenko is fun to watch.

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 04:42:43
I'm still feeling pretty confident about my Bruins... though I just don't feel super confident about our ability to score. We can't keep relying on random people every night to pull off come from behind goals... I'd be nice to see one or two guys start stepping up and producing consistently.

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 05:14:00
What's the deal with this Spooner kid? I keep hearing his name but I know nothing about him.

Bruins are always scary. So far only Chicago looks better, and that's debatable.


Visnovsky was supposed to be here today (Wednesday)...rumor is he will make his season debut Thursday against the Rangers (ha! they don't look like Cup favorites so far).

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 05:26:15
I don't know, we recalled a couple guys from Providence, Tardiff and Spooner, to boost our offense and give us a bit of physicality. Tardiff has the 2nd most goals in the AHL this season and Spooner has 21 assists, putting the two of them tied for first on the Providence Bruins with 30 points apiece in the AHL this season. Bruins have some injuries right now with Thornton, Paille and Marchand being out for a the near future, and our power play has been absolutely terrible. So they called up some guys to light a spark. We'll see.

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 06:07:09
Ahh...interesting. Thanks for the info.
I don't keep up too much with the AHL anymore. Used to see a bunch of Norfolk Admirals games. Everybody was bummed out when Tampa dropped them after winning the Calder.

Despite anything you will ever hear, the VA beach area will not support a pro team in any league. AHL, AAA baseball is fine...pros won't make it. The residents realize it. Anyways...



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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 17:45:47
Haha I'm not going to argue that southern cities (and in this case, VA is southern) don't really support hockey for the most part. Virginia is a college town anyways, right? As well as football with the Redskins. So I don't think hockey is ever going to get a foothold there, and neither will any other team outside of college and the Redskins.

I don't really follow the AHL, apart from just hearing names of players from the Bruins' affiliate. I went to a couple games this year during the lockout, but that's about it.

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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 04:29:45
Why not? California, of all places, has hockey. Why can't Virginia? They're already missing most of their teeth, they'll fit right in.

edit: Sharks had to import players with missing teeth.

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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 05:26:13
Well in case we all forgot, the NHL nearly just lost a season because of a revenue dispute, partially (or specifically) because many of the teams were losing money... and I'll give you a hint: it wasn't Montreal, Boston, Toronto, or New York losing money..... sure, there are indeed fans of the Sharks, Predators, Kings, Stars etc., but there's just not much of a market to tap into there. And gate receipts don't total as much as TV deals and other merchandising. Is it also a surprise that the NHL is generating record revenue during a time when Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are all winning or appearing in Stanley Cups?

Also, for some NHL history... the 90s saw a few teams leave Canada because the Canadian Dollar simply was too less valuable than the American one at the time, and we had the Predators, Thrashers, Sharks, Hurricanes, Panthers, Ducks, Lightning, Stars and Coyotes join the league. Not surprsingly, just a few years after all these teams were added to BOOST revenue by tapping into the southern market, the NHL lost an entire season because salaries were growing faster than NHL revenue was and owners were, again, losing money from teams that no one cared about. When that CBA expired that was in place during this time of expansion, the league locked the players out for the 2004-05 season, as I said, due to low revenues for southern teams. Now, fast forward to this past locked, it again happened right as the last CBA in place expired, because southern teams were STILL killing hockey.

There have been 3 lockouts in the NHL that have resulted in games, or an entire season, missed. All of them have come in EXPANSION eras. It's no coincidence. Bring more teams back to Canada/Northern US, especially now that the two dollars are equal, and I promise you will see far more revenue generated, as opposed to deep south or California teams.... hell, you guys out in CA can barely even stay interested in your Dodgers, Lakers or Angels when they're not in hte playoffs... you think you can support a hockey team?

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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:28:05
The Sharks have a huge (and rich) fan base and the only people losing money during the lockout were the local businesses. I was living in San Jose during the last season and it was hella busy during a home game.

edit: bosox, I love my 9ers and I love my Sharks. I will never, ever lose interest in them. Basketball and baseball totally suck. I mean seriously, how the hell do you justify paying someone 25 mil a year for seven years to play a baseball game?!?!?! what the f**k?!

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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:41:22
San Jose does actually have a pretty decent fan base, and are the exception to the rule here... but I just think the NHL would do better if we took the Stars, Predators and Lightning and and put them in Seattle, Quebec City and Wisconsin, for example. But it's all about the TV money. Just look at the Dodgers deal... valued at between $7 and $8 billion over 25 years, which averages out to about about $300m a year. Obviously, baseball is more popular overall than the NHL is, but you see the picture. It's those lucrative TV contracts that really add a nice chunk of change to owners' pockets.

According to Forbes, here are how the teams ranked in terms of revenue, value, debt, etc. in order:

Toronto
New York Rangers
Montreal
Chicago
Boston
Detroit
-------- notice those are the original 6 teams, all northern cities.
Vancouver
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
LA

Those teams round out the top 10, meaning 9/10 are traditional northern hockey markets that have the best ratings and revenue. Obviously there are some exceptions, as the Islanders rank near the bottom, but here's the bottom 10 teams: St. Louis, Phoenix, Columbus, NYI, Carolina, Nashville, Florida, Tampa, Buffalo, Anaheim.

You can't blame it on success either or length of time, because the Blues have been around a while and made the Cup Finals and there were 3 straight Cups won bye Carolina, Tampa and Anaheim... yet, there is ZERO interest in those cities.

Top 10 teams are 9 northern cities, bottom 10 teams are 8 southern cities. It's no secret. It's truly not. The NHL does vastly better in northern cities than southern ones.


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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 04:46:30
And, for the record, the Sharks ranked 15th on that list.

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Posted on Tue Feb 12, 2013 17:07:14
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Haha I'm not going to argue that southern cities (and in this case, VA is southern) don't really support hockey for the most part. Virginia is a college town anyways, right? As well as football with the Redskins. So I don't think hockey is ever going to get a foothold there, and neither will any other team outside of college and the Redskins.



Hampton Roads (which is about 7 cities) has a few colleges, but the biggest one is probably ODU. People support ODU basketball and football (which is only a few years old). AAA hockey does ok. AAA baseball does ok. But it's just not a good place for any major league team. They tried to get the Expos, Sacramento Kings, an NHL team...it's just not a good fit.



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Posted on Tue Feb 12, 2013 17:30:02
Yeah, I know all about Hampton Roads and ODU, I got accepted to that school but chose to stay in Boston but that part of the country is just mostly college and football.

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Posted on Wed Feb 13, 2013 05:16:19
It is. And with a big military population, you have fans of every team, even if it is Skins country.

The Isles are killing me. Nabakov is too old to handle this many games and DiPietro is a joke. The annual plummet has begun.



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Posted on Wed Feb 13, 2013 05:35:02
The thing I'm confused about is... why is there so much hype around the Bruins' signing of 38 year old winger Jay Pandolfo, who's career high 14 goals came in the 98-99 season, hasn't ever hit 30 points in a season and who hasn't scored more than 10 points in the NHL in the past three years, despite playing in 52-62 games in each season. Great.

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Posted on Thu Feb 14, 2013 02:48:41
And Matt Cooke does it once again....Erik Karlsson out with a sliced achilles. Frickin' disgusting.

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Posted on Thu Feb 14, 2013 03:37:08
Is anyone surprised? Cooke is the dirtiest f**king player in the NHL, and the Penguins are probably the most hated team. Cooke has always been this in his career, and I don't know why he's allowed to play in the NHL, and be celebrated by going to All-Star games, when there are so many people he has intentionally knocked injured, and even in effect ended their careers (Marc Savard?) The whole team is full of dirty cheap players, Crosby and Malkin included, yet the Pittsburgh fans cry to no end whenever someone comes near one of their stars.

Cooke is just about one click lower than Todd Bertuzzi, in my opinion, when he sucker punched Steve Moore from behind, breaking multiple vertebrae, knocking him unconscious and continuing to beat him as he Moore was unconscious on the ice, which ended his career and gave him amnesia. Ironically enough. Moore played with Bertuzzi on the Canucks for a few years and actually fought Steve Moore before the incident because he wanted "revenge" for Moore's hit on a Vancouver player that sidelined him for only 3 games. Cook has always been dirty and he learned from one of the dirtiest.

Only way this will stop is if Bettman actually hands out some severe punishment. I'm sure, though, he will only give him a couple games becauise it's Pittsburgh and Bettman doesn't want to upset the Penguins and the "greatness" of Crosby and his chances at winning another Cup. Cooke needs to be out of the NHL altogether and penalties for repeat offenders need to be MUCH more severe.

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Posted on Thu Feb 14, 2013 21:15:46
No suspension whatsoever and Karlsson is expected to be out for 3-4 months....Cooke might want to set out the next meeting between the two teams...you can watch the hit and say it looks accidental but I've never seen anybody pick their skate that high up and then to top it all off he pushes off after making contact with his heel.

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Posted on Fri Feb 15, 2013 19:44:53
Why would he want to stay out? Nothing will happen to him, nothing EVER does. Sure, he may get into a fight and get sent to the penalty box for 5 mins and maybe even get into two fights, but what does that matter? Cooke doesn't mind dropping the gloves, and he knows that if he just runs and ducks from all those people trying to fight him, that THOSE people will get suspended and he wont get anything in that situation either. but honestly, at this point, can I even blame Cooke anymore for it? It's the league's fault now, as they, for whatever reason, DON'T PUNISH HIM! Hell, there's been a lot of bitching over the past year that my Bruins player Brad Marchand is "very dirty" and he's been suspended by the league for clipping and little things like that, which is a little cheap but not really dirty... yet this guy Cooke must know someone in the disciplinary office, because he's taken out SO many people (maybe even ended Karlsson's career, as who the hell knows how a guy bounces back from an ACL tear) and he never gets anything more than at MOST a few games or nothing at all. It's disgraceful.

Until one of the players goes after Cooke on the ice and gets the suspension that will surely come for instigating and cuts his face up and breaks his nose on the ice, the league is not going to care. Because they've handcuffed all the legit enforcers who just fight a clean hockey fight but they allow dirty players like Cooke to roam freely around the ice.

The best justice for Matt Cooke came in a fight against Atlanta's Evander Kane a few years ago, when Kane one hit dropped that douchebag and gave him a concussion, but even that was purely by chance, as Kane and the Thrashers didn't have anything specifically against him. Yet, Kane has become one of my favorite players solely because of that fight.

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Posted on Sat Feb 16, 2013 00:47:15
Ottawas owner publicly called Cooke a goon and was hinting towards him deserving a true ass kicking. They have one more game against them this year at the end of April and by that time I imagine Ottawas playoff dreams will already be crushed so maybe just maybe somebody will step up and give him what he has coming.

But on a more positive note my Caps have finally strung together a 3 game win streak

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Posted on Mon Feb 18, 2013 04:36:10
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I'm still feeling pretty confident about my Bruins... though I just don't feel super confident about our ability to score. We can't keep relying on random people every night to pull off come from behind goals... I'd be nice to see one or two guys start stepping up and producing consistently.


you guys got the firepower like the rangers do (well not like the rangers do, but you still got firepower lol), but yea the ending - you need the younger guys and guys on the 3rd/4th lines to produce more consistently. The rangers are starting to look like the team we saw from last year - 7-2-1 in last 10 games. im pretty happy with em now. God help us if we go to a shootout again with biron in goal - he is f**kin horrible reading players 1 on 1.

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Posted on Mon Feb 18, 2013 21:22:18
Well, don't get too excited about the Rangers' fire power, seeing as you guys have only scored 1 more goal than Bosotn this year and have been outscored by 43 goals by the Bruins last year, as well as nearly 20 in 2010. The only real goal scoring threat you guys have is Nash.... but he's spent his entire NHL career in the West where teams tend to be more about finesse than hard hitting and grinding defense like in the East, for the most part.... so I'm not so sure if Nash is scoring 40 this year. Even still, the past three seasons of Nash he's been barely above or just at 30 goals, and the Bruins have had their share of guys hitting around 27-30 over the past few years. So perhaps the Rangers aren't really as big of a scoring threat as you think

But noooo way, I'm so tired of the 3rd and 4th lines getting more play than they should. We already have great lower lines, and I think they've actually been the best or right at the best in terms of +/- and goal scoring for the past couple seasons. I just really want more production out of our number 1 and 2 lines. I believe Krejci and Seguin both have the potential to score around 40 goals; Krejci demonstrated this in the Stanley Cup run and Seguin has shown flashes of brilliance on the ice in his first two seasons. But no one can seem to do it consistently and that's the Bruins' problem.

I feel the same about shootouts too, unlike last year. Rask is terrible in those situations and seems to panic whenever there's a breakaway or has to start moving laterally.

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Posted on Wed Feb 20, 2013 17:46:41
You know, all I heard this whole off-season/lockout period was how the shortened season was going to have teams playing 4 and 5 games every 7 days throughout the year.... yet, my Bruins seem to have 2 and 3 day stretches without games every single week. So far, this is pretty much like a normal season for me Bruins have played the least amount of games in the league, at 13, which is 5 games fewer than both conference leaders, and it seems the majority of teams have all played 4 more games than the Bruins. I'm not sure what to think of this, as it's either a blessing because we have the chance to get some points with a normal paced schedule with plenty of days to rest.... or if it means we're screwed when the season gets into full swing for us and we're the team that's playing 5 games in 7 days in March when other teams are getting the extra days off.

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