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Thread created on Fri Nov 15, 2013 13:42:06
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Also, will edit it to post stats of members.
Anyway - the question just like in title.
Was this a pure luck or you think that we could go as a stable team now?

-Rosie-

People busted: 3,560
Failed busts: 1,872

Criminal offences: 17,069
Selling illegal goods: 176
Theft: 5,712
Auto theft: 60
Drug deals: 196
Computer crimes: 3
Fraud: 10,000
Murder: 11
Other: 911

nanowar

People busted: 7,501
Failed busts: 4,423

Criminal offences: 26,207
Selling illegal goods: 5,000
Theft: 8,296
Auto theft: 2,352
Drug deals: 119
Computer crimes: 1,098
Fraud: 4,167
Murder: 115
Other: 5,060

benQ

People busted: 2,220
Failed busts: 882

Criminal offences: 16,123
Selling illegal goods: 100
Theft: 5,000
Auto theft: 450
Drug deals: 30
Computer crimes: 383
Fraud: 5,000
Murder: 160
Other: 5,000

Barbossa

People busted: 7,565
Failed busts: 4,225

Criminal offences: 23,387
Selling illegal goods: 5,003
Theft: 6,206
Auto theft: 619
Drug deals: 254
Computer crimes: 19
Fraud: 6,236
Murder: 34
Other: 5,016
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Also, Im pretty sure all of them have all the crime and other requirements (psychology, some law etc.)
The CSR - I have 5/10, -Rosie- - 10/10 and I think rest has 5/10+


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Posted on Fri Nov 15, 2013 13:48:30
Depends on the stats/info of your team I guess

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Posted on Fri Nov 15, 2013 17:24:29
NICE GOING Barbossa and team!!

TLDR: No not lucky you have met the minimum requirements

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Rank order for a clean success is: #4, #2, #1, #3. So to put your people in order it's:

Barbossa, Rosie, nanowar, benQ

Busts order: 7,565, 3,560, 7,501, 2,220


If you look at your descending bust counts, all of you appear to be in order (with bust counts stacked on top of your 45) except nanowar seems to be the odd one out. With his bust count he should really be in 1st or 2nd place.

So from this information we can say from his rank position that his intact CE from busts he's done is actually less than 3,560 but more than 2,220. It just means he did much of his busts before he got his 45, or he's done some bad crimes and chewed up some of his CE somewhere. It's easy fixed, but you should keep it in mind when planning future teams.

So if we estimate nanowar's "working bust count" (from his intact CE from busts) on the high end and estimate he has 3,500 CE worth of busts, then the team bust count works out at:

7565 + 3560 + 3500 + 2220 = 16,845


This is why MasterBuster and I (way back when) said you needed a team bust count of 16,000 or so. You can succeed (we even saw a team succeed on 14,000 once) but if your team bust count is this low, added to the fact that you don't have a super buster leading (you're getting there though good job!) then you have to be extremely mindful of the types of results you're getting - as if you get a run of jail-success results (the Mexican president result where the #1 & #2 go to jail and lose CE) then you will find it will eventually "catch up" to you and your team will fail. This is because if you plan them every 8 days and get enough jail-successes, the "hits" to your CE that you will be taking will be more than you can make up for in the 8 days it takes to plan the next one.

This is why you will see people always recommending you use a super buster as the leader of the team. They have accrued enough CE, and they are independently motivated to bust at a higher number, that they are able to withstand a "bad run" of jail-success results and can generally make up for the lost CE in the time it takes to plan the next one.

Jail success results seem to average at ~ 50% (but you can get a "run" of clean results or a "run" of jail-success - but just saying it all evens out really). The only way to get a lower % of jail-success results is to increase the CE of your entire team. It's true that a super buster *can* drag 3 nooblets to success over and over again, but the worse the (rest of) the team, the more likely you are to get the lower payouts & jail-success results.


All in all though, a great job! I hope you guys keep busting, you're doing great!

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Posted on Fri Nov 15, 2013 17:35:06
Awesome answer, Link. Good job VP PA team

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Posted on Fri Nov 15, 2013 17:48:58
Gratz Barbossa!
Now just keep busting your ass off so you can continue doing these PA's for longer and get stable over time

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Posted on Fri Nov 15, 2013 17:50:00
Always good to see my PA members popping up elsewhere!

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Posted on Fri Nov 15, 2013 18:28:30
I think its just cause you're a bunch of studs. Well except for Rosie, she's a lady stud. Not sure what that's called but yea.

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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 00:21:57
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I think its just cause you're a bunch of studs. Well except for Rosie, she's a lady stud. Not sure what that's called but yea.


A Mare - Over 3 years in TC
A Filly - Under 3 years in TC

Filly sounds cuter for rosie



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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 00:44:22
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By Megalomaniacal [1542618]
I think its just cause you're a bunch of studs. Well except for Rosie, she's a lady stud. Not sure what that's called but yea.


A Mare - Over 3 years in TC
A Filly - Under 3 years in TC

Filly sounds cuter for rosie



Lmfao. In the states we use stud to describe a really badass guy who is very popular with the ladies.


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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:25:04
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By Megalomaniacal [1542618]
I think its just cause you're a bunch of studs. Well except for Rosie, she's a lady stud. Not sure what that's called but yea.


A Mare - Over 3 years in TC
A Filly - Under 3 years in TC

Filly sounds cuter for rosie



Lmfao. In the states we use stud to describe a really badass guy who is very popular with the ladies.


Lol i know


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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:59:39
Congrats barbossa or b0ti and to the team..keep it up

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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:12:43
+ $250,000,000 made
+ 242 respect has been earned



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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:24:43
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+ $250,000,000 made
+ 242 respect has been earned



MrTseng has been jailed
Yashvee has been jailed

+ $200,000,000 made
+ 265 respect has been earned

Leave some of the 250m payouts for us

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Posted on Sat Nov 16, 2013 13:19:48
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By Megalomaniacal [1542618]
I think its just cause you're a bunch of studs. Well except for Rosie, she's a lady stud. Not sure what that's called but yea.


A Mare - Over 3 years in TC
A Filly - Under 3 years in TC

Filly sounds cuter for rosie



....I think you'll find I'm a old nag....

...Thanks to everyone for the great comments, and a big thanks to Link for her post!

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Posted on Sun Nov 17, 2013 13:40:30
Ok thanks for all the anwsers and positive feedback (both here and by mails)
All I can say is that we planned another PA maybe 2-3h after the one mentioned here. Will post results (as kind of 2nd test of this team)

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Posted on Sun Nov 17, 2013 14:28:43
gluck VP!

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Posted on Sun Nov 17, 2013 14:36:18
Thanks for the informative answer Link, a good read!

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Posted on Sat Nov 23, 2013 15:30:42
this is the team stats just 5 mins, will update the difference and past the result Anyway - this is purely a confirmation of this team
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Stats no included means the same as in 1st PA.

Barbossa

People busted: 8,363 (+798)
Failed busts: 4,544 (+319)

Theft: 6,211 (+5)
Drug deals: 255 (+1)
Fraud: 6,444 (+108)


-Rosie-

People busted: 3,802 (+242)
Failed busts: 1,949 (+77)

Theft: 6,028 (+316)


nanowar

People busted: 7,757 (+256)
Failed busts: 4,532 (+109)

Theft: 8,624 (+328)

benQ

People busted: 2,430 (+210)
Failed busts: 995 (+113)

Computer crimes: 532 (+149)


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