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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 03:15:58
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I'm done with this disagreement. I vow to never argue with you again.

I've started taking college level mathematics when I was 11 years old. I got honors for scoring a perfect score on the ACT test on my first taking in mathematics and science when I was a sophomore in high school.

You're just under educated. A big problem in America these days. It's not your fault really.


I'm not even american and you have absolutely no idea about what my education is.

good try, though, despite the cheap shot attempt.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 03:20:16
1. He isn't American. But I'm impressed that you can act so cocky whilst making an incorrect statement.
Ah. A sign that you yourself are American.
I am American, and frankly you don't seem as educated as numerous people that I know.

2. Having taken advanced classes early didn't help me on the ACT as I had to re-study maths I hadn't encountered in years (I started IB and AP in grade 8, same as many others at my school, some started grade 7), and the material from the more recent classes I had taken, like AP Calc BC, was not on the ACT.

My first time taking it was as a junior and for the very reason I just mentioned I think that your taking of it earlier was an advantage, not the proud feat you represented it as.
I got a very good score but I'm not gonna go into detail bragging about it on the interwebs. Especially not as out-of-nowhere as you did.

3. If you respond to a post directed at someone else, where he even quoted said intended recipient, you can't blabber on about how it wasn't a good response to you.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 04:30:22
nvm... no use.

Can't fix stupid.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 04:40:49
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nvm... no use.

Can't fix stupid.


true that, you must be a PhD by now, right? or did you peak at 11yo and hold onto that as if it's somewhat impressive?

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 04:45:07
2-5%

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 04:59:16
Theoretically you could never OD from a xanax, you could also theoretically OD for 1,000 straight xanax.
On either end you'd be in the top or bottom .001th percentile but statistically speaking its plausible.

Nobody can give you an exact number, I have an OD rate of 5.1% on 70 ODs. Most people who are taking xanax have a much lower percent than I do. The person who has the most xanax taken at 3673 has an OD rate of 3% on 113 ODs.
They have 162% my OD number but have 282% my xanax taken.
If my OD rate was the same for everyone this person would have 187 ODs.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:06:21
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Theoretically you could never OD from a xanax, you could also theoretically OD for 1,000 straight xanax.
On either end you'd be in the top or bottom .001th percentile but statistically speaking its plausible.

Nobody can give you an exact number, I have an OD rate of 5.1% on 70 ODs. Most people who are taking xanax have a much lower percent than I do. The person who has the most xanax taken at 3673 has an OD rate of 3% on 113 ODs.
They have 162% my OD number but have 282% my xanax taken.
If my OD rate was the same for everyone this person would have 187 ODs.


Better watch what you say, people are going to swoop in to try to prove you wrong with useless wiki entries and no knowledge of what they are talking about.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:07:00
I guess it is completely random.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:12:45
By Ohadik [424017]
Better watch what you say, people are going to swoop in to try to prove you wrong with useless wiki entries and no knowledge of what they are talking about.


Oops, looks like you failed to understand the last two times it was mentioned, so perhaps I can explain it so that one such as you can understand it.
Daddy was talking to someone else when he put the link up.
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nvm...


The common response of someone who has realized he isn't able to adequately defend his position.

Though it wasn't gracious I still accept your concession.

Perhaps next time you will choose a position you are willing to defend. Until then, I wish you pleasant days.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:21:37
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By Ohadik [424017]
Better watch what you say, people are going to swoop in to try to prove you wrong with useless wiki entries and no knowledge of what they are talking about.


Oops, looks like you failed to understand the last two times it was mentioned, so perhaps I can explain it so that one such as you can understand it.
Daddy was talking to someone else when he put the link up.

By Ohadik [424017]
nvm...


The common response of someone who has realized he isn't able to adequately defend his position.

Though it wasn't gracious I still accept your concession.

Perhaps next time you will choose a position you are willing to defend. Until then, I wish you pleasant days.


I'm sorry, what exactly was your point again?

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:23:52
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By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By Ohadik [424017]
Better watch what you say, people are going to swoop in to try to prove you wrong with useless wiki entries and no knowledge of what they are talking about.


Oops, looks like you failed to understand the last two times it was mentioned, so perhaps I can explain it so that one such as you can understand it.
Daddy was talking to someone else when he put the link up.

By Ohadik [424017]
nvm...


The common response of someone who has realized he isn't able to adequately defend his position.

Though it wasn't gracious I still accept your concession.

Perhaps next time you will choose a position you are willing to defend. Until then, I wish you pleasant days.


I'm sorry, what exactly was your point again?


Both of my points in the quoted text were quite clear, so perhaps you were talking about the previous post?

If so, you're in luck! I numbered my points, separating them for easier viewing.
Use that wheely thing on your mouse to scroll up and read what uncle Rey said.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:25:48
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By ReyDuvall [1526820]
By Ohadik [424017]
Better watch what you say, people are going to swoop in to try to prove you wrong with useless wiki entries and no knowledge of what they are talking about.


Oops, looks like you failed to understand the last two times it was mentioned, so perhaps I can explain it so that one such as you can understand it.
Daddy was talking to someone else when he put the link up.

By Ohadik [424017]
nvm...


The common response of someone who has realized he isn't able to adequately defend his position.

Though it wasn't gracious I still accept your concession.

Perhaps next time you will choose a position you are willing to defend. Until then, I wish you pleasant days.


I'm sorry, what exactly was your point again?


You're in luck! I numbered my points, separating them for easier viewing.
Use that wheely thing on your mouse to scroll up and read what uncle Rey said.


If that was your point, it was completely off topic so I chose to ignore it.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:31:32
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If that was your point, it was completely off topic so I chose to ignore it.


Oh? They were points you brought up. I wonder why you brought them up.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 05:57:15
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I chose to ignore it.


yeah, riding high horses does that to people: they raise points and when the answer is inconvenient, the following step is to ignore it and/or pretend said answer is invalid or ignorant.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 15:18:09
Spurtung is right it is coded into the game. BUT the when of the OD is random.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 15:30:16
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Spurtung is right it is coded into the game. BUT the when of the OD is random.


If this is the case? Then according to what he said he can predict when someone is going to OD. If something is random then there is still the chance that you could OD each xanax or never OD at all. If not then the system is not random.

How is that so hard for you people to understand? It's almost elementary.

How Spurtung can't even accept the example of a coin flip as being an example of random outcomes is beyond my realm of thinking.

How hard is this to understand? I flip a coin, there are two possible outcomes, heads or tails. I get heads. If you agree with what spurtung has said, then the next time I flip I will get a better outcome of getting tails. This is wrong.

The next flip the odds of getting heads is still 50%. And the next flip, the odds of getting heads again is 50%. You could flip for days and never once have the coin land tails. It is 100% entirely possible, extremely unlikely, but possible.

If OD's are coded that eventually you will always OD that would mean that everything that is known about the OD system is wrong, that would mean something actually affects when a player OD's and it's not random at all.

You cannot say Spurtung is right and then follow it with OD's are random in the next sentence... That's just nonsensical.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 15:38:34
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according to what he said he can predict when someone is going to OD.


care to point out where did I even imply that?










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If something is random then there is still the chance that you could OD each xanax or never OD at all. If not then the system is not random.


and that's exactly why my first comment on this subject, quoting you, was

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By Ohadik [424017]
No reason to be scared. OD's are 100% random. You can OD on your first one or never OD at all after taking hundreds.


that's not true.

that random you talk about is coded, so everyone will OD at some point


the system is not random, everyone WILL OD, the only difference is on the WHEN it happens, not IF.










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How Spurtung can't even accept the example of a coin flip as being an example of random outcomes is beyond my realm of thinking.


newsflash: I obviously accept that as an example of random outcomes.
what I don't accept is that you can apply it here, simply because flipping a coin will in the long run produce results of 50/50 (while you will never OD 50% of times) and that flipping a coin is not a piece of program coding like this is. ODs in Torn have to be defined, the random is in essence a function, as I have said before, and therefore not that random.










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If OD's are coded that eventually you will always OD that would mean that everything that is known about the OD system is wrong, that would mean something actually affects when a player OD's and it's not random at all.


exactly my whole point. the function is defined to make you OD roughly at a rate of 3% while preventing you from going over a certain limit.

you're looking at this in a pure theoretical mathematics sense and that simply doesn't work when you want to produce certain results. this is based in mathematics, but it's computer programming. if only you had had that at a college level when you were 11yo we wouldn't be watching you struggle like that.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 16:07:11
OD works in same way as the lottery and the awareness

They are coded to work randomly.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 16:10:09

You cannot say Spurtung is right and then follow it with OD's are random in the next sentence...




The WHEN of the OD is RANDOM. BUT the system is coded on an average of around 3%.
Go, find me a person with a few hundred+ xanax taken and never OD'D





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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 16:54:50
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You cannot say Spurtung is right and then follow it with OD's are random in the next sentence...




The WHEN of the OD is RANDOM. BUT the system is coded on an average of around 3%.
Go, find me a person with a few hundred+ xanax taken and never OD'D





leave it, he had college level maths at 11. you're fencing with a genius.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 20:58:51
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You cannot say Spurtung is right and then follow it with OD's are random in the next sentence...




The WHEN of the OD is RANDOM. BUT the system is coded on an average of around 3%.
Go, find me a person with a few hundred+ xanax taken and never OD'D





To your answer I found a person who has taken 1463 xanax and still taking but ODed 30 times which is like very very negligible.
Profile for ID: 971678

Only Drugfree don't OD.

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Posted on Sat Aug 24, 2013 22:05:57
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To your answer I found a person who has taken 1463 xanax and still taking but ODed 30 times which is like very very negligible.
Profile for ID: 971678

Only Drugfree don't OD.


2.05%

how is that proof of anything?

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Posted on Sun Aug 25, 2013 06:55:48
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To your answer I found a person who has taken 1463 xanax and still taking but ODed 30 times which is like very very negligible.
Profile for ID: 971678

Only Drugfree don't OD.


2.05%

how is that proof of anything?


Compare his stats with mine and yours.
He ODed 30 out of 1500 drug,I ODed 50 out of 1K drug and yours.
So colclusion is OD works randomly with different people Account.
Just as you said

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Posted on Sun Aug 25, 2013 07:18:57
It's great that you are agreeing Chagu...

But the thing is the reason your OD percent is 3.2 (45 ODs not 50) is because Xanax accounts for less than 1/3 of the drugs you've taken, and your most-used is XTC, so the XTC and Vico are bringing your percent up.

And the guy you mentioned has taken over 95% Xanax and only 1 XTC.

According to Bogie:
xanax is around 2%, vico around 3%, ecstasy around 4%, ketamine about 5%

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Posted on Sun Aug 25, 2013 16:23:10
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It's great that you are agreeing Chagu...

But the thing is the reason your OD percent is 3.2 (45 ODs not 50) is because Xanax accounts for less than 1/3 of the drugs you've taken, and your most-used is XTC, so the XTC and Vico are bringing your percent up.

And the guy you mentioned has taken over 95% Xanax and only 1 XTC.

According to Bogie:
xanax is around 2%, vico around 3%, ecstasy around 4%, ketamine about 5%


Oh thats the point !!
Thanks Rey!

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