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Thread created on Fri Dec 14, 2012 15:49:14
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I heard once you reach stat cap(50M), We gain same amount of stats
from all the trains on that stats thereafter.

Stats =
((Gym Dots * 4) * ((0.00019106 * Stat) + (0.00226263 * Happy) + 0.55)) * (1 + Steadfast + Education Bonus) / 150 * Energy Used


Then How will the above equation work after that?


((7.5 * 4) * ((0.00019106 * 50000000) + (0.00226263 * 5000) + 0.55)) * (1 + 0.07 + 0.02) / 150 * 10 = 20851.401667

Gym Dots : 7.5(Frontline Fitness)
Speed Stats Assumed : 50Mil
Happy : 5,000
Stead : 7(.07)
Education : 2(0.2)


The above are my speed stat calculated on reaching 50M.
From there after I earn the same speed, 20851.401667 per train??

Last Edited: Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:29:33
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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 15:57:45
Yep, that's pretty much it. Obviously the happy and slight randomness might effect it, but it'll be 20850-ish each train.

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:00:15
Which gym you have will also effect it but yeah as a rule there is very little difference in gains between the worst gym at 50m and the best gym at 500m

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:05:08
depends on gym, but basically yup

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:19:58
I am using Frontline Fitness(7.5 dots for strngth and speed).



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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:25:46
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Which gym you have will also effect it but yeah as a rule there is very little difference in gains between the worst gym at 50m and the best gym at 500m


That's completely ridiculous. I'm training speed right now and gain 53,702 per 25e train at Frontline Fitness. At premier fitness I would gain 14,320 per 25e trained. That's almost 4x the stat gain.

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:30:04
Matt, do you get same stats as the equation below answers??


((Gym Dots * 4) * ((0.00019106 * Stat) + (0.00226263 * Happy) + 0.55)) * (1 + Steadfast + Education Bonus) / 150 * Energy Used





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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:32:08
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Which gym you have will also effect it but yeah as a rule there is very little difference in gains between the worst gym at 50m and the best gym at 500m


errr...no, there is a big difference actually.

just account the good old global gym where capped stats got 10400 or so

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:37:30
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Matt, do you get same stats as the equation below answers??


((Gym Dots * 4) * ((0.00019106 * Stat) + (0.00226263 * Happy) + 0.55)) * (1 + Steadfast + Education Bonus) / 150 * Energy Used





Pretty difficult to follow that formula but I tried and according to my calculations, the above equation says I should be gaining about 6mil per 25e train, which is clearly wrong.


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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:39:20
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Matt, do you get same stats as the equation below answers??


((Gym Dots * 4) * ((0.00019106 * Stat) + (0.00226263 * Happy) + 0.55)) * (1 + Steadfast + Education Bonus) / 150 * Energy Used





Pretty difficult to follow that formula but I tried and according to my calculations, the above equation says I should be gaining about 6mil per 25e train, which is clearly wrong.


That, thats is my question.
-Is this formula applicable to stat which is 50M or below only?
-Is there another formula for stats above 50M?

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:45:22
The formula doesnt work for stats over 50m.

Why you want a formula for a stat over 50m?

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:46:29
It seems like this forumla would result in an ever increasing amount of gym gain depending on your current stat, so this formula appears to be wrong regardless of stats.

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 16:56:39
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The formula doesnt work for stats over 50m.

Why you want a formula for a stat over 50m?


Just to know if there is one!



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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 17:08:37
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The formula doesnt work for stats over 50m.

Why you want a formula for a stat over 50m?


Just to know if there is one!



a formula for above 50m is not neccessary because the gains are constant, hence the term 'capped'

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 17:33:16
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The formula doesnt work for stats over 50m.

Why you want a formula for a stat over 50m?


Just to know if there is one!



a formula for above 50m is not neccessary because the gains are constant, hence the term 'capped'


So to get the amount stat gain from a stat above 50M, I should type 50,000,000 in the place of stats in equation.

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 19:17:33
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The formula doesnt work for stats over 50m.

Why you want a formula for a stat over 50m?


Just to know if there is one!



a formula for above 50m is not neccessary because the gains are constant, hence the term 'capped'


So to get the amount stat gain from a stat above 50M, I should type 50,000,000 in the place of stats in equation.


Yes, also the energy used is wrong, frontline uses 25E

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Posted on Fri Dec 14, 2012 20:26:51
By Snider [1488157]
I heard once you reach stat cap(50M), We gain same amount of stats
from all the trains on that stats thereafter.

Stats =
((Gym Dots * 4) * ((0.00019106 * Stat) + (0.00226263 * Happy) + 0.55)) * (1 + Steadfast + Education Bonus) / 150 * Energy Used


Then How will the above equation work after that?


((7.5 * 4) * ((0.00019106 * 50000000) + (0.00226263 * 5000) + 0.55)) * (1 + 0.07 + 0.02) / 150 * 10 = 20851.401667

Gym Dots : 7.5(Frontline Fitness)
Speed Stats Assumed : 50Mil
Happy : 5,000
Stead : 7(.07)
Education : 2(0.2)


The above are my speed stat calculated on reaching 50M.
From there after I earn the same speed, 20851.401667 per train??


Difference is, Frontline uses 25 energy, not 10. Also, large pool gets an extra 2%.

The formula will look like this:
((7.5 * 4) * ((0.00019106 * 50000000) + (0.00226263 * 5000) + 0.55)) * (1 + 0.07 + 0.02 + 0.02) / 150 * 25 = 53,084.990483

It's close, but slightly higher than you'll actually gain. Here's what I get with Steadfast X:

You lasted 1 round sparring with Drago attempting 3 haymakers that didn't even shake him
You gained 53,700.3485 defense




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Posted on Sat Dec 15, 2012 01:34:11
Thanx mates.....one more question.

In what way does a pillow help in a succesful runaway?

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Posted on Sat Dec 15, 2012 02:32:04
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Thanx mates.....one more question.

In what way does a pillow help in a succesful runaway?


it doesn't.

helps with stalemates, though, if you know your opponent can't bring you down.

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