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Posted on Fri Dec 09, 2011 09:14:22
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so basically i can sit here and press the city button without pressing anything else and have a chance of finding an item?


Correct! You could rise your chances with the things named in the first post, but your way alone is already enough to find items.

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Posted on Fri Dec 09, 2011 09:27:30
I know it's not proven that XX:57 has a higher chance to find an item, but I've found most of my item at that time. So when it's XX:57:00 spam the city link like crazy

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Posted on Fri Dec 09, 2011 09:53:34
thanks. +

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Posted on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:58:29
I've found so much in the last weeks, often exactly one hour after the last find. But I never found more than one item per hour. So I would say that guy who said he found 2 items within 15 minutes was talking rubbish or he misunderstood the difference between a found wallet and a found item. I'll correct that fact in the FAQ.

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Posted on Mon Dec 26, 2011 21:05:55
Doesn't this just tell the obvious? Like..Really? D:

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Posted on Mon Dec 26, 2011 21:10:56
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Doesn't this just tell the obvious? Like..Really? D:


And half of it is wrong >.<

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Posted on Mon Dec 26, 2011 21:49:00
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Doesn't this just tell the obvious? Like..Really? D:


Maybe. But believe it or not, people (new players) still ask most obviously answerable questions.


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And half of it is wrong >.<


And 99% of bogie is wrong.

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Posted on Mon Dec 26, 2011 21:54:10
I found it was a good guide, before reading it I had no idea there was another way to find items other than searching the dump. Nice job ALF. R+

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Posted on Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:43:25
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By Addichaz [1599180]
Doesn't this just tell the obvious? Like..Really? D:


Maybe. But believe it or not, people (new players) still ask most obviously answerable questions.


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And half of it is wrong >.<


And 99% of bogie is wrong.


You're stating that spamming the city link will find more >.< It doesn't... the system is coded to prevent people doing that from finding more... >.< This is even confirmed by admins...

This guide states the obvious, anything that is correct just copies what I wrote in the FAQ sticky about many things with awareness... and the rest is just wrong >.<

It's not a 'guide'. Finding shit is nearly entirely random, this isn't helpful at all. Rated -

Last Edited: Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:48:28
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Posted on Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:47:27
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By proving just how random it is with these posts you are nullifying this 'guide'.


No. I am just showing those who believe being unlucky just have to stay tuned. I recommend you reading more about "statistics" and "chances". Also, if you would have taken a look at my overall finding stats over the past years you would have seen that this "peak" just normalized my statistics to its average level.


Stay tuned to what?

We already know all there is pretty much about finding items.

This is pointless, and just stating the complete obvious, and yeah, a few things wrong too. -.-

Rated -

Last Edited: Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:49:01
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Posted on Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:47:46
Double post.

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Posted on Tue Dec 27, 2011 01:56:19
This is a pointless topic.

A lot of people seem to think "OMG it's random!". No... it's pseudo-random. You rarely get good quality true (ish) randomness from a computer algorithm, you just don't.

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Posted on Tue Dec 27, 2011 07:37:32
I have max awareness from merits and I find an item or two every couple days nothing to special but it counts plus high awareness also helps with dump to in better findings, best thing I got in the dump was kodachi swords and for a finding in the city my best was dumbbells


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Posted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 08:22:06
Do you think it is best to just constantly press city or should I walk around the city and press on different shops

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Posted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 08:31:39
By ALF [385222]
I've found so much in the last weeks, often exactly one hour after the last find. But I never found more than one item per hour. So I would say that guy who said he found 2 items within 15 minutes was talking rubbish or he misunderstood the difference between a found wallet and a found item. I'll correct that fact in the FAQ.


ummm i've got a screen shot that proves it, in this very thread infact.
just because you haven't done it does not mean it isnt possible.

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Posted on Tue Jan 31, 2012 21:30:04
30/01/12
9:02:50 PM You found the item Pixie Sticks while walking around the city!
30/01/12
8:34:34 PM You found the item Dagger while walking around the city!

only 28 minuts in between

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Posted on Tue Jan 31, 2012 21:54:58
i've had many 2 items in an hour and a couple 3 items in one hour but its rare. then i have streaks for days with none. im well over 500 found now with 11 stat enhancers and countless artifacts. upgrading is good if ur broke and active.

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Posted on Tue Jan 31, 2012 21:57:35
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Posted on Fri Feb 10, 2012 00:24:21
You forgot to add the "Use a bot, script or auto-update tool to continuously refresh the City-page".

Or do you stay online and play in your sleep? Since you have been actively playing every second for a year, I mean...

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Posted on Mon Feb 13, 2012 16:46:44
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You forgot to add the "Use a bot, script or auto-update tool to continuously refresh the City-page".

Or do you stay online and play in your sleep? Since you have been actively playing every second for a year, I mean...


I would say setting up a bot would be easier than anything lol

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Posted on Thu Mar 29, 2012 03:09:19
i have found 2 items in a interval of 1 min

One Senet Board and White senet pawn

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Posted on Thu Mar 29, 2012 03:36:58
I would rate + if you played the game instead of a bot "playing" probably 70% of the time

Also the childish remark about Bogie since he is correct and all you come out with was "And 99% of bogie is wrong." childish

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Posted on Tue Apr 24, 2012 01:59:10
Thant's cool.:)


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Posted on Sun Jul 08, 2012 20:02:49
click on the city repeated five times. after that, click on all areas, for example, the west side. click on each area is in west side. at the same time you should take extc, because extc arwarness add you. try is.


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Posted on Sun Jul 08, 2012 21:41:49
I can't prove this, but I have found a lot of items this way: By leaving the City page of Torn open for a long time, an hour or more. I have did this while playing chess, being in the forums etc.

After a long time with the City page open, when I finally do refresh the it I have had Event stating that I have found an item. Most of the time it is some little thing, a brick, a leather whip, a crowbar....but the past week I have found some valuable items like script of quran and gold noble coin.

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Posted on Tue Aug 07, 2012 21:08:51
Bumped & Rated+

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Posted on Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:40:10
I've posted some of my items found with time and date on my profile, feel free to glance and try to post yours also. If you do also feel free to tell me so I can check it out.:P
Ps my details say I found 25 items but I've found way more before they started the count so I've noticed.;)

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Posted on Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:44:12
By ALF [385222]

2: Chance indicator
Q: How often could I even get an item?
Q: Could I know at some point, that clicking for the next XXX times/minutes/hours does also not get me an item?
A: Torn avoids finding a new item after you already found one for a certain time. At the moment nobody knows how much time this is. Some players find one item exactly 1 hour after they found another item, but not within less time. So it may be an hour.


27/05/12
4:59:09 PM You found the item Pen knife while walking around the city!
27/05/12
4:34:02 PM You found the item Kitchen knife while walking around the city!


I can send the events upon request

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Posted on Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:56:25
Actually ALF I just read through the thread now, and why are you being so stubborn? As bogie has stated you can find more than 1 item per hour (as numerous examples have been provided to you). Why haven't you updated your OP to reflect the empirical evidence presented?

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Posted on Wed Sep 05, 2012 09:15:43
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That's wrong

There IS a limit to the number of clicks, you don't go to fed, but after you've clicked the city TWICE in one hour you can no longer find anything for that hour. Max you can find in one hour is TWO items because of this.

For #2, if you're very lucky you can find 2 items simultaneously, I've found 2 items in the same hour within 10 minutes of each other.....the only limit is the 2 clicks to the city (which I did there) and I wouldn't be able to find anything more until the next hour.

Thanks bogie, this makes a lot of sense! I know I have never found more than 2 items in 1 hour (indeed 2 item finds in 1 hour seems to be a rarity).

In order for city finds to be seemingly randomized (ie. no surefire way to definitely find an item by doing x, x, x, <item>) AND to be able to prevent click spamming, you could figure it might work something like this:

1. A RNG picks a random number; let's the # is 2,500 (for example sake).
2. Each time a person clicks "City" the counter is incremented by 1
2b. Anyone who has awareness upgrades or other modifiers (drugs etc..) would make it increment by more. eg. if you had 10 upgrades on awareness each of your clicks would increment the counter by 10 instead of 1.
2c. the city clicking counter would have to throttle or ignore your clicks after sometime to prevent click spamming (ie. let's say the limit is 2 clicks per hour, then after those 2 clicks, no further clicks are counted for you).
3. When the number is 'tripped' (ie. a click takes the counter to 2,500 (or over it if you have awareness modifiers) you find an item.
4. The counter picks another number and repeats the process.

In this way, having awareness modifers in play for yourself may increase your chances of finding an item (by incrementing the counter faster for you) but also kind of help other players too (although not directly). This might also explain the idea that newer players seem to have a higher chance of valuable item finds (they may have an increased click modifier for a certain number of 'newbie days' or somesuch). Also this idea of course doesn't speak to the quality of said item!


All conjecture, but if it or something similar were true, then 'finding items' FAQ's apart from general "click the city twice per hour" or w/e are pretty much useless, wouldn't you agree?


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