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Posted on Thu Oct 20, 2011 16:28:42
You roll up a joint and smoke the cannabis.

Testing effects of natural addiction decay starting now

Will check in 24 hours to see if this addiction gained is lost.


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Posted on Fri Oct 21, 2011 16:52:02
You are not at all addicted to drugs!

Good news! The addiction from cannabis CAN be lost within 24 hours

I'll try something a bit more addictive next


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Posted on Fri Oct 21, 2011 16:58:22
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You are not at all addicted to drugs!

Good news! The addiction from cannabis CAN be lost within 24 hours

I'll try something a bit more addictive next


sweet. thanks man

Surely with some maths you can find out how long the rest of it takes by looking at the drug addictions?

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Posted on Fri Oct 21, 2011 18:18:54
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You are not at all addicted to drugs!

Good news! The addiction from cannabis CAN be lost within 24 hours

I'll try something a bit more addictive next


sweet. thanks man

Surely with some maths you can find out how long the rest of it takes by looking at the drug addictions?


Not with just one reference point The range I have so far to work with is far too large to put down on my guide, hence am posting my preliminary findings here in the thread, not the original post.

I would need to do multiple drugs and re-test a few times to confirm before I deem it worthy of the guide.

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Posted on Fri Oct 21, 2011 20:03:14
You snort one bump for each nostril of Ketamine.

Just posting for my own reference

- 24 hours of ket addiction is too much to be removed naturally -


You snort one bump for each nostril of Ketamine.
- 18:11 23/10

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Posted on Sat Oct 22, 2011 18:14:53
Me likey


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Posted on Sun Oct 23, 2011 22:53:35
You snort a line of PCP. You start to feel dizzy, so you lay down on the couch. Everything starts to go black around you, the next thing you know, you are talking to trees. You wake up in the hospital, feeling very weak.


Energy: 5/150 07:34
Happy: 0/2675 07:34
Nerve: 1/45 02:34


after effects are roughly 1660mins (27hr 40min)


dunno if thats helpful

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Posted on Sun Oct 23, 2011 23:21:28
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You snort a line of PCP. You start to feel dizzy, so you lay down on the couch. Everything starts to go black around you, the next thing you know, you are talking to trees. You wake up in the hospital, feeling very weak.


Energy: 5/150 07:34
Happy: 0/2675 07:34
Nerve: 1/45 02:34


after effects are roughly 1660mins (27hr 40min)


dunno if thats helpful


Ty

Did you happen to see how much your stats were reduced by if at all?

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Posted on Sun Oct 23, 2011 23:30:58
nope, forgot to check

We're training atm, and I flower run most of the time these days...

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Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 06:15:20
very helpful

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Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 14:26:32
This is useful....

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Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 21:43:03
I recently got kicked from education after 35 ecstasy - I monitor my drug use quite carefully, and I may have missed one or two, but that's it. No OD's during the period.

I have not taken all of them back to back, as I need sleep from time to time, and I have a job. Just to top it off, we also have hermetic V - a total reduction of 25% from the base addiction. Simply put, this doesn't add up at all. I also noticed someone else in my faction asking in chat if others had been unexpectedly kicked from education recently, so it appears something might have changed somewhere....anyone else noticed something of the sort?

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Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 21:59:10
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I recently got kicked from education after 35 ecstasy - I monitor my drug use quite carefully, and I may have missed one or two, but that's it. No OD's during the period.

I have not taken all of them back to back, as I need sleep from time to time, and I have a job. Just to top it off, we also have hermetic V - a total reduction of 25% from the base addiction. Simply put, this doesn't add up at all. I also noticed someone else in my faction asking in chat if others had been unexpectedly kicked from education recently, so it appears something might have changed somewhere....anyone else noticed something of the sort?


Two of my faction mates have recently reported that they got kicked out of education after 6 Xanax (no OD's). I assumed they might have not rehabbed fully, but after hearing your story, something really might have changed.

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Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 23:15:59
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I recently got kicked from education after 35 ecstasy - I monitor my drug use quite carefully, and I may have missed one or two, but that's it. No OD's during the period.

I have not taken all of them back to back, as I need sleep from time to time, and I have a job. Just to top it off, we also have hermetic V - a total reduction of 25% from the base addiction. Simply put, this doesn't add up at all. I also noticed someone else in my faction asking in chat if others had been unexpectedly kicked from education recently, so it appears something might have changed somewhere....anyone else noticed something of the sort?


Two of my faction mates have recently reported that they got kicked out of education after 6 Xanax (no OD's). I assumed they might have not rehabbed fully, but after hearing your story, something really might have changed.


I think it's more down to hermetic not being worth it >.<

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Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 23:22:00
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I recently got kicked from education after 35 ecstasy - I monitor my drug use quite carefully, and I may have missed one or two, but that's it. No OD's during the period.

I have not taken all of them back to back, as I need sleep from time to time, and I have a job. Just to top it off, we also have hermetic V - a total reduction of 25% from the base addiction. Simply put, this doesn't add up at all. I also noticed someone else in my faction asking in chat if others had been unexpectedly kicked from education recently, so it appears something might have changed somewhere....anyone else noticed something of the sort?


Two of my faction mates have recently reported that they got kicked out of education after 6 Xanax (no OD's). I assumed they might have not rehabbed fully, but after hearing your story, something really might have changed.


I think it's more down to hermetic not being worth it >.<


If it is a set percentage reduction in addiction gain per drug, how can it not be worth it unless the coding used was f**ked up?

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 00:37:12
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I recently got kicked from education after 35 ecstasy - I monitor my drug use quite carefully, and I may have missed one or two, but that's it. No OD's during the period.

I have not taken all of them back to back, as I need sleep from time to time, and I have a job. Just to top it off, we also have hermetic V - a total reduction of 25% from the base addiction. Simply put, this doesn't add up at all. I also noticed someone else in my faction asking in chat if others had been unexpectedly kicked from education recently, so it appears something might have changed somewhere....anyone else noticed something of the sort?


Two of my faction mates have recently reported that they got kicked out of education after 6 Xanax (no OD's). I assumed they might have not rehabbed fully, but after hearing your story, something really might have changed.


I think it's more down to hermetic not being worth it >.<


I wouldn't have much issues accepting that theory, if not for the fact that I have repeatedly gone over the education kick limit (according to the numbers given in this thread) on both Xanax and ecstasy, without any problems at all. This time, I got kicked after a total of 35 ecstasy, NOT taken back to back.

Even if we assume that Hermetic gives NO addiction reduction at all, which I see as unlikely, I still shouldn't get kicked after that amount.

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 00:41:19
What an awesome guide. Fantastic work on creating it.


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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:54:31
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You snort a line of PCP. You start to feel dizzy, so you lay down on the couch. Everything starts to go black around you, the next thing you know, you are talking to trees. You wake up in the hospital, feeling very weak.


Energy: 5/150 07:34
Happy: 0/2675 07:34
Nerve: 1/45 02:34


after effects are roughly 1660mins (27hr 40min)


dunno if thats helpful


Ty

Did you happen to see how much your stats were reduced by if at all?


25/10/11
10:38:40 AM You snort a line of PCP. The next thing you know you wake up in the hospital. You have overdosed.

i've OD on pcp yet again, luckily, i managed to open a new tab for my homepage and compare the results

just before
Speed: 28,233.5872
Strength: 50,437.9064
Defense: 6,269.8626
Dexterity: 10,006.9638
Total: 94,948.3200


just after
Speed: 27,913.5872
Strength: 50,437.9064
Defense: 6,269.8626
Dexterity: 10,006.9638
Total: 94,628.3200

i know my stats aren't great but i dont really care about them tbh.


just after the od of pcp, my speed reduced by 320
I've been training ONLY speed for a week


you could make a theory that od on pcp reduces speed, or the most recently trained stat

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 17:33:21
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You snort a line of PCP. You start to feel dizzy, so you lay down on the couch. Everything starts to go black around you, the next thing you know, you are talking to trees. You wake up in the hospital, feeling very weak.


Energy: 5/150 07:34
Happy: 0/2675 07:34
Nerve: 1/45 02:34


after effects are roughly 1660mins (27hr 40min)


dunno if thats helpful


Ty

Did you happen to see how much your stats were reduced by if at all?


25/10/11
10:38:40 AM You snort a line of PCP. The next thing you know you wake up in the hospital. You have overdosed.

i've OD on pcp yet again, luckily, i managed to open a new tab for my homepage and compare the results

just before
Speed: 28,233.5872
Strength: 50,437.9064
Defense: 6,269.8626
Dexterity: 10,006.9638
Total: 94,948.3200


just after
Speed: 27,913.5872
Strength: 50,437.9064
Defense: 6,269.8626
Dexterity: 10,006.9638
Total: 94,628.3200

i know my stats aren't great but i dont really care about them tbh.


just after the od of pcp, my speed reduced by 320
I've been training ONLY speed for a week


you could make a theory that od on pcp reduces speed, or the most recently trained stat


Ty I had suspected that PCP reduced speed, I think a few drug overdoses, speed too, reduce stats on overdose.

It would appear that (very closely rounded) a PCP overdose reduced your speed by 1%

Quite a lot tbh

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 17:37:26
Does drug addiction go down linearly? or like, more the longer away from last take?

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 18:00:16
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Does drug addiction go down linearly? or like, more the longer away from last take?


Currently in the process of figuring this out I am trying to turn this into a full, properly detailed, drug guide... from addiction info... true overdose results... effect durations... whether anything affects these effect durations... etc

If anyone has ANYTHING that they want me to find out about drugs at this point then please post it in this thread and I will work on it!

I will not be doing work on Hermetic, so if anyone has detailed information on this I would love it if they could help me out here

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 18:05:17
Well I don't have good figures or anything, but i'd take a pretty good guess that drug addiction does go down exponentially.

-When I first started I took around 30 XTC and couldn't afford to rehab, waited about a month (got the money to rehab) went and it said I wasn't addicted at all.

So yeah, surely it must go down faster as you get further away, (because it doesn't go down 3% daily surely) i don't know at all at what rate though, you'll have hell working that out


Although what would be good, is if someone could volunteer to take a cannabis and wait it out in Switzerland.
-See how many hours it is till they are clean. (Or is drug addiction a daily cron? )

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 18:10:45
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Although what would be good, is if someone could volunteer to take a cannabis and wait it out in Switzerland.
-See how many hours it is till they are clean. (Or is drug addiction a daily cron? )


This thought has already crossed my mind too I am working on this as well, full results will be published during the next update of the guide Hopefully at some point in November.

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 18:20:26
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I recently got kicked from education after 35 ecstasy - I monitor my drug use quite carefully, and I may have missed one or two, but that's it. No OD's during the period.

I have not taken all of them back to back, as I need sleep from time to time, and I have a job. Just to top it off, we also have hermetic V - a total reduction of 25% from the base addiction. Simply put, this doesn't add up at all. I also noticed someone else in my faction asking in chat if others had been unexpectedly kicked from education recently, so it appears something might have changed somewhere....anyone else noticed something of the sort?


Two of my faction mates have recently reported that they got kicked out of education after 6 Xanax (no OD's). I assumed they might have not rehabbed fully, but after hearing your story, something really might have changed.


I think it's more down to hermetic not being worth it >.<


I wouldn't have much issues accepting that theory, if not for the fact that I have repeatedly gone over the education kick limit (according to the numbers given in this thread) on both Xanax and ecstasy, without any problems at all. This time, I got kicked after a total of 35 ecstasy, NOT taken back to back.

Even if we assume that Hermetic gives NO addiction reduction at all, which I see as unlikely, I still shouldn't get kicked after that amount.


Which drug is it that you are having issues with? Ecstasy? Xanax? Or a mixture of both....

I can re-test if necessary.

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 20:07:52
My unexpected education kick came while using ecstasy, I've personally not experienced any problems with xanax so far. I just switched back to xanax after my last rehab (yesterday), so I'll see where that takes me.

However, I believe both Blexi and XIII have mentioned a similar problem whilst using Xanax.

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Posted on Tue Oct 25, 2011 20:13:35
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My unexpected education kick came while using ecstasy, I've personally not experienced any problems with xanax so far. I just switched back to xanax after my last rehab (yesterday), so I'll see where that takes me.

However, I believe both Blexi and XIII have mentioned a similar problem whilst using Xanax.


I'll report whenever I see or hear it happen again. I personally only use Xanax and I never got kicked out of education. I rehab after 8 or sometimes 9 Xanax while taking 2-3 Xanax every day.

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Posted on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:03:23
One theory I am working on is that drugs do not always give the same, or a linear, amount of addiction.... there may be a range of addiction that is gained (Extremely difficult to test for), for most people they will get an averaged out figure.... others get very unlucky and higher addiction... hence kicked earlier... :/

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Posted on Wed Oct 26, 2011 14:19:15
Does rehab really get you 100% clean, to the level of a non-druggy?

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Posted on Wed Oct 26, 2011 23:38:55
bump for this thread , good work bogie

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Posted on Thu Oct 27, 2011 23:40:30
bump for bogie
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