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Thread created on Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:44:46
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Sorry people write ..... bad english

Before I earned 15 mil every day, now sees that declined 50% in the income of the company,

thought they would get profit, wages are so fallen 60% just to have than normal profit in the company.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:46:33
dude the new update has just been implicated.

its a new system,. optimize and give it some time. profits are rising,

wages have risen though, due to the fact stat requirements are higher

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:47:32
yes! and also the stats requirement has also risen! my company make a loss of about 7mil each day!

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:58:17
I've also noticed that my advertising money has not been deducted in my cruise line.... Do u guys know if yours has been.... That also "could" be affecting profits if advertising isn't working properly


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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 06:04:48
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yes! and also the stats requirement has also risen! my company make a loss of about 7mil each day!


Im in the exact same 'boat', ironic isnt it? lol..

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 07:23:00
Are you guys talking about net profit? There are very less employee compare to previous system. May be your net income is decreased but not as much as 50% since you don't need to pay for many employees.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 07:46:46
If i am honest, from what i have seen all of the oil rigs are doing it wrong, i run a 1 star rig with no benefit blocks or company upgrades and 5* 30 man rigs only made 20 mil more than me.

so i would imagine that you are all staffing your companies incorrectly, and once you have actually resolved your staffing profit will improve.

edit- Before you look at my staff list i have changed it this morning



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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 08:08:13
day 2 people GIVE IT TIME!!!

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 08:11:55
So many cry babies...want everything without effort?

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 08:23:07
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Are you guys talking about net profit? There are very less employee compare to previous system. May be your net income is decreased but not as much as 50% since you don't need to pay for many employees.


Before each earn 1m average from single employees. Now? 600k-700k from each position max. May be there is a way we mix and match to increase each people make? idk

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 09:38:05
I wonder how many of you will be eating your own words on these type of threads when the profits are finally optimised due to time or staff positioning.

It was far to easy to make money out of companies prior to this update, all you really had to do was you and your staff login once a day and train 5 people. Now you have to do a bit more work for it and none of u can be bothered to see what needs to be done!!

I spent a lot of time over the course of 2 days to get a balance of employees and pricing optimized....maybe all you whiners want is millions of TC dollars given to you for doing f**k all??

It'll take another week before the ones that have put the time and effort in to really see the fruits of their efforts.....I for one have already seen a good daily increase with some tweeking here and there...

The moral of this long post is.....dry your eyes out, no-one likes a crybaby....read what Ched puts in the announcements and you might stop looking foolish with these sorts of posts.




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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:08:16
so much for the upgrades.. downgrades and they suck

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:25:26
CLA have went down hill, im lossing at least 6 times as much as before, I have 15 employees compared to 24 employees due to the old system so staff wages isnt the issue

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:30:27
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CLA have went down hill, im lossing at least 6 times as much as before, I have 15 employees compared to 24 employees due to the old system so staff wages isnt the issue


Suggestion make sure your employees are in the right position, are they still all *5 employees? If not make adjustments, a simple newsletter stating your expectations from your employees worked great for me. If they don't "clean" up there act, do what you need to do and kick em to the curb.

Make sure everything is up to snuff on your end, stock advertising and so on. I think if you put some effort in this new system you will enjoy the challenge. It is not coded like the last companies everyone has to be accountable even the director.

Trial and error and you will do great.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:54:52
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CLA have went down hill, im lossing at least 6 times as much as before, I have 15 employees compared to 24 employees due to the old system so staff wages isnt the issue


Suggestion make sure your employees are in the right position, are they still all *5 employees? If not make adjustments, a simple newsletter stating your expectations from your employees worked great for me. If they don't "clean" up there act, do what you need to do and kick em to the curb.

Make sure everything is up to snuff on your end, stock advertising and so on. I think if you put some effort in this new system you will enjoy the challenge. It is not coded like the last companies everyone has to be accountable even the director.

Trial and error and you will do great.



yeh everyone is 4 to 5 * rating, there are a few people in positions that they do not meet the requirements, but the requirements are crazy tbh ( im still in favor of the update though )


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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:00:58
IT'S BEEN 2 f**kING DAYS!! you need to mess around with the positions, advertising and pricing. i make 1000% more than i used to

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:04:35
I make treble what I used to, bus my staff costs have risen as well

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:04:48
Cruse Line was the company I was referring to when I mentioned in the warning announcement:

Some previously overpowered companies in comparison may see a reduction in overall profit. This is in an effort to balance all companies, to make them all worthwhile to own for at least some genera of players.


It was reduced a little because previously it was overpowered and gave no reason for people make any other type of company. I'm sure you'll agree that now it is much more balanced compared to the other companies around it. In it's current state, around 10m per day still isn't bad, that's a 1217% APR not including employee costs / upgrades.

If you are still not happy, you can easily sell it for a large percent of what you put in to it - but I'm pretty you won't find much better profit elsewhere for the input.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:34:03
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Cruse Line was the company I was referring to when I mentioned in the warning announcement:

Some previously overpowered companies in comparison may see a reduction in overall profit. This is in an effort to balance all companies, to make them all worthwhile to own for at least some genera of players.


It was reduced a little because previously it was overpowered and gave no reason for people make any other type of company. I'm sure you'll agree that now it is much more balanced compared to the other companies around it. In it's current state, around 10m per day still isn't bad, that's a 1217% APR not including employee costs / upgrades.

If you are still not happy, you can easily sell it for a large percent of what you put in to it - but I'm pretty you won't find much better profit elsewhere for the input.


One question ched. I realise you are balancing the company with these profits, but it seems now there is no way to keep up with inflating rehab costs. Do you expect to ever lower these or is your plan to eventually expect some players to go completely drug free as they can't rehab or just never rehab and have the weakened nature of their stats. I know it's one of the only ways of taking the money from the system that players have made from previous stock systems but I think the exponential increase is a bit much.

Sorry if a tad off topic but it's linked into company effectiveness/economy/profits

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:35:56
I'm finding it easier after the update, I'm also sure if I had tried harder and been less loyal to current members I could have made a lot more profit by hiring cheaper and more skilled staff that were suddenly unemployed due to the update.

Did anyone else jump for joy this morning after thinking their weekly profit was their daily only to come crashing down again when the truth sank in.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:37:36
thats what you get for taking drugs mmkay

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:54:21
Day 2 and my company also dropped a lot after hiring much better (and more employees). Didn't expect it to go up tbh though and I doubt I'll ever see it that high again.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 13:12:49
I jiggled my employees positions a little and I increased my advertising slightly and I saw an increase in profit. My profit didn't equal what I put into advertising but its still a nice profit. I'm going to leave it for a couple days and see what happens. I do wish there was a way of comparing yesterdays effectiveness performance to todays without copying it everyday.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 13:27:17
Maybe an employees effectiveness and how much money they bring in will increase over time? As if they get used to their new job etc?

RL example - A newbie on a sales team wouldn't get as many sales as a veteran (Unless they were lucky / EXTREMELY good at it)

Give it a few weeks.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 14:31:15
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day 2 people GIVE IT TIME!!!


and that's why i'm getting the medical items stolen merit i've decided to stay out of this for a while... until things get completely straightened out

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 17:32:30
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Cruse Line was the company I was referring to when I mentioned in the warning announcement:

[quote]Some previously overpowered companies in comparison may see a reduction in overall profit. This is in an effort to balance all companies, to make them all worthwhile to own for at least some genera of players.


edit forget it, this is just the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. had a bigger post about just how 'overpowered cruiselines were' which is a joke of a statement.

Anyways the only company worth buying is oil rigs and tv network, just as it was in the last system

And cruiselines might have said they were making 30-40m a day, but if you had factored in the amount being paid out to the employees, the owners were only making 5-10m a day, no matter if they had spent 8b upgrading to a 45+ man or 16b upgrading to 60+ man (enough for 1 and 2 rigs might i add) after paying out all those wages of assumingly 500k per person they were making at most 5-10m a day and on those random bad days maybe even break even

now you spit in their faces and they can sit there for life breaking even or losing money with their cruiseline.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 18:45:29
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I jiggled my employees positions a little and I increased my advertising slightly and I saw an increase in profit. My profit didn't equal what I put into advertising but its still a nice profit. I'm going to leave it for a couple days and see what happens. I do wish there was a way of comparing yesterdays effectiveness performance to todays without copying it everyday.


Yeha tbh I don't think advertising is worth it at ALL for sports teams/Fitness centers. I don't think ANY amount of advertising will EVER pay for itself. The company overall profits are just too low for the price, I don't think advertising even works in this case. This may have something to do with why it was hidden from prying eyes actually. I say go with 10% of income and leave it at that.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 19:08:52
Did the update eliminate forever any possibility of supremacy, where a handful of directors were getting the lion's share (like in the image below)?
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And yeah, the cruise lines may look overpowered in the past, but when you took a look at the wages, you would wonder why the owner even bothered to run it. I used to run one, and bailed before it got ugly.

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 19:50:56
Did Ched really try to justify the situation by comparing gross profits for a fully upgraded (or at least close to it) company against its base starting cost (ie. minus upgrade costs and staffw wages), or did I read his post incorrectly?

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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 21:06:13
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Cruse Line was the company I was referring to when I mentioned in the warning announcement:

Some previously overpowered companies in comparison may see a reduction in overall profit. This is in an effort to balance all companies, to make them all worthwhile to own for at least some genera of players.


It was reduced a little because previously it was overpowered and gave no reason for people make any other type of company. I'm sure you'll agree that now it is much more balanced compared to the other companies around it. In it's current state, around 10m per day still isn't bad, that's a 1217% APR not including employee costs / upgrades.

If you are still not happy, you can easily sell it for a large percent of what you put in to it - but I'm pretty you won't find much better profit elsewhere for the input.



I understand you nerfing the liner for being overpowered but when you pay millions to upgrade it and not get barely any profit out of it for doing that then its not worth to even have a liner anymore other than for the travel bonus. I think you should look at the cost of upgrades if you intend to nerf the liner and balance it out along with the nerfs because its not worth putting money into it if you do not get anything out of it



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Posted on Thu Jan 30, 2014 21:26:49
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Cruse Line was the company I was referring to when I mentioned in the warning announcement:

Some previously overpowered companies in comparison may see a reduction in overall profit. This is in an effort to balance all companies, to make them all worthwhile to own for at least some genera of players.


It was reduced a little because previously it was overpowered and gave no reason for people make any other type of company. I'm sure you'll agree that now it is much more balanced compared to the other companies around it. In it's current state, around 10m per day still isn't bad, that's a 1217% APR not including employee costs / upgrades.

If you are still not happy, you can easily sell it for a large percent of what you put in to it - but I'm pretty you won't find much better profit elsewhere for the input.


One question ched. I realise you are balancing the company with these profits, but it seems now there is no way to keep up with inflating rehab costs. Do you expect to ever lower these or is your plan to eventually expect some players to go completely drug free as they can't rehab or just never rehab and have the weakened nature of their stats. I know it's one of the only ways of taking the money from the system that players have made from previous stock systems but I think the exponential increase is a bit much.

Sorry if a tad off topic but it's linked into company effectiveness/economy/profits



kyle, I've spoken with some heavy drug users and it seems like Rehab decay does hit some min value which has the effect of having a xanax rehab cap at about $8.5m with no Hermetic, $4.25m per xanax with Hermetic X. I will believe it 100% when I see it for myself, but I think $4.25m - $8.5m per xanax puts it at a "reasonable" level, especially with a decent level of Hermetic. i.e. extremely expensive, but affordable with some effort during the 2 - 4 years it takes to hit the cap.

With Herm IX, I'm at around $2.9m per xanax ($35m per 12). Should take me about 3 - 4 months to hit cap given that our training break is about to end.

Yes though, if a CLA can make $5m - $10m per day profit for the owner, that is about enough to cover Rehab costs forever assuming you have all the other basics ($2B in bank, L10 bank interest, FHC, SYM, LSC, PRN, and IOU/HRG as more borderline BB's). Bear in mind that few people have adequate stats....the profit will go up as people's job stats rise over the next several months.


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